Juror No. 10: Texas vs. Rubinstein AKA Jack Ruby

Originally Recorded: November 19, 2018
J. Waymon Rose of Allen, Texas was Juror Number 10 during the infamous 1964 trial of Texas vs. Rubinstein alias Jack Ruby. He shares his experiences of this infamous trial.
Jack Ruby fatally shot Lee Harvey Oswald two days after President Kennedy was assassinated. In one of the most highly publicized trials of the twentieth century, Ruby was found guilty of murdering Oswald, but the Texas Court of Appeals reversed the decision. Ruby died of lung cancer while awaiting retrial.
At his wife's suggestion, Mr. Rose maintained a journal of his experiences in a 25-cent spiral notebook, detailing the living conditions and limited activities of himself and his fellow jurors as well as his insights and observations of Jack Ruby, his attorneys, the prosecutors and the trial. That notebook is now with the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza in Dallas.
In November of 1963, Rose was a traveling salesman. The assassination of President Kennedy would initiate a chain of events that would drag Mr. Rose, unwillingly, into history. “I said, I’m too busy to be on any jury, but I’ll get off it,” Rose recalled about his notice of summons. “I’m not going to serve on any jury.” Because millions of Americans had watched the video of Ruby killing Oswald, finding an impartial jury was a daunting task. The prosecutors learned that Rose had a distinguished war record and were determined that he serve on the jury. In fact, Rose wrote in his diary that near the end of the trial, he still had not made up his mind whether Ruby was mentally capable of standing trial.
Mr. Rose says that after 30 minutes of deliberation, with the jury reviewing all details, the verdict became unanimous.

[@alwagner9722]

Check out Dorothy Kilgallen: The Reporter who Knew too Much. She had the scoop on Ruby and the JFK assassination but was "suicided" in 1965.

[@johndavies5582]

Dorothey was too cool she got betrayed

[@ronniebishop2496]

She should have kept her mouth shut or just went along with the murderers that Ruby was just a fool. lol 😂 and then surprise everyone.

[@billyellis3509]

This is all propaganda. The easy way to shut people up is to throw out fairy tales by 2nd hand spectators. You see if the government didn't do it then why not release all documents related. Why did Oswald get murdered right away by a crook who walks into a police station with a gun ? The library in Texas may as well be named the Oswald library. Oswald was a agent of the us government and was not the killer.

[@aaronz7056]

HSCA found no evidence she was murdered. Her interviewing of Ruby came during his public trial where he could have made any public statement he wanted to and was only going to be part of a much larger book on other trials she had covered, hardly an urgent expose. If she possessed any info that was going to blow any conspiracy she sure was in no hurry to do anything with it.

[@Ckom-Tunes]

It’s very simple; Dorothy died of the toxic mix of alcohol and drugs. No matter what Mark Shaw says!

[@jm4236]

The mob had him killed

[@justanotherguy469]

Executive order 11110 got Kennedy killed.

[@snicky58]

The "Warren" Commission would have more accurately been called the Dulles Commission.

[@Ckom-Tunes]

Why? What did Dulles specifically do to control Earl Warren and the rest of the commission? Also, how did he manipulate fact, for example the backyard photos, that implicated Oswald? How could he do those things?

[@Scripts360]

I’ve always referred to it as The Warren Omission.

[@snicky58]

@@Scripts360 😉 💯

[@Ckom-Tunes]

@@Scripts360 Exactly what did they omit?

[@palnikolaiisnes7804]

Great sarcasm tunes

[@Super241946]

I was the first to hear of the assassination in my little village of Maguiresbridge in Co Fermanagh Northern Ireland. I had been listening in to the AFN programme on my radio and when I heard it I ran into the street and told a few guys standing at Larkin's shop but they didn't believe me. It wasn't until later that day the BBC news had it.

[@jenniferholden9397]

Super241946 I was 8 living in Lancaster in the north west of England, it was Friday night at my friends Grandmas having tea and waiting for Bonanza to come on the TV. We washed up quickly and ran home to our parents. My dad said "I knew that they would stop the poor soul, he was a good man" . What a world we could have had.

[@chab1rd155]

Wow! Great recollections! Ty

[@sidDkid87]

*Dorothy Kilgallen!!!*

[@Ckom-Tunes]

Dorothy was a smart capable lady but a sad and troubled person. She had the eyes and ears of the whole world but it couldn’t prevent her from dying a lonely drunk drug abuser. Very sad.

[@sidDkid87]

@@Ckom-Tunes *_still wearing your covid mask when strolling through the park?_*

[@Ckom-Tunes]

@@sidDkid87 What? I think perhaps you’re responding to the incorrect comment! That, or you’ve eaten a few too many paint chips ! Dorothy had reached the point in her life where she had become irrelevant in terms of professional opportunities , a satisfying love life, and the end of people taking her seriously. She was depressed, lonely and abusing drugs and alcohol-a prescription for dying alone….

[@sidDkid87]

@@Ckom-Tunes*_yep, one of us eats paint chips, the other blindly ingests any bilge their government feeds them_*

[@Ckom-Tunes]

@@sidDkid87 That’s a lot better than slopping down the bilge of Mark Shaw !

[@wellneranderson3183]

Visited the building 20 years ago. Toured the grounds. NFW did Oswald fire three shots impossible. Not only was there a tree on his left, but the window is also at knee level. If you go there, you will be amazed at this BS story. He would have been lucky to get off two shot, and they would surely would not have been close to JFK

[@danboone49]

B

[@handsome-brute2666]

Everyone from George H W. Bush who was the CIA paymaster to the assassins 50k a piece...Nixon..Lbj .abd j Edgar Hoover knew the nite before what would happened..CIA-Mob hit with Mobster Johnny Roselli in the storm sewer blow in JFK brains out with a special pistol and hollow point bullet

[@ronniebishop2496]

Read about Katherine Graham Katherine the Great.

[@johnd7435]

Nonsense; you are wrong and tired. It was an easy shot, then he went out, shot a cop,and was apprehended. Silly people. Every one of your notions come to a dead end.

[@rosemma34]

@@ronniebishop2496 why

[@johndavies5582]

Lol went for a one night stand ....different meaning back then?

[@ussliberty4631]

REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY

[@kenanacampora]

I do, and I will continue to do so. To hell with anyone who fires on our Navy and hurts our boys....even if they are supposed holocaust survivors...like Jeffrey Epstein.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@ussliberty4631 The Liberty event is an irrelevant issue, involving yet another lamebrain conspiracy "theory."

[@gordonmcintosh2655]

Ruby ran joints for the Chicago mob in Southern IL in the 1940s.

[@Betrayerslayer]

you with the lingo.

[@gideon2060]

Proof?

[@glenperry2073]

He also was a little runner for al copone so his ties to mafia go back alto his childhood

[@ArmyRanger483]

Can barely hear dude

[@jay-rk1mn]

What about the mobster that visits Ruby in jail? What about marchello sending the girls to Ruby's club ?

[@gideon2060]

Neither of them gave Oswald employment in the book depository.

[@larrywheels762]

Joe campisi used to visit ruby in jail. He was an associate of Carlos Marcello. Dalkas was a corrupt place.

[@FierybutMostlyPeacefulSara]

What a wonderful man. I'm gonna have to go downtown and check out that diary and his wife's scrapbooks! Absolutely incredible! I love this little mini-series on JFK y'all put on, City of Allen and Allen Library! I hope y'all do on stage events like this in the future! I'm just one city over! God bless y'all!

[@victoriastevens3166]

Cool!

[@aaronpaterson1615]

Country singer Jim Reeves should have been called as a witness as he told a friend that he recognised Oswald as being in the club he performed in, which he was unaware was co-owned by Jack Ruby. Reeves recognised Oswald's face when he saw his picture in a newspaper. Reeves died flying his own plane into a mountainside in July 1964.

[@MonaLisa-lu8zi]

And we all thought that was an accident. 🤔

[@khalgarrison]

And if you think about it, Oswald and Reeves look eerily similar...

[@moorek1967]

@ Aaron Paterson I think that if Jim Reeves said that, then he really must have been stretching to accuse Lee like everyone else. No performer ever goes from city to city to play for audiences and somehow remembers one individual in the crowd. He could have seen a thousand young men that looked like Lee and just by his own imagination connected some imaginary dots. It is called the Mandela Effect. Considering the fact that Lee was not really social, why would he be going to concerts in bars? Have you ever noticed that when a crime occurs and people call in tips about the person who did it, they make thousands of them that do not pan out, because someone has the same eye color, or hair color or as tall as the person. Watch those shows like America's Most Wanted or FBI Files, you will see them say "thousands of people called in with tips that none were viable". If Jim Reeves said Oswald was the only one to show up at one of his concerts, then there might be a sense of recognition, but as it stands, with the many people who came to listen to Jim Reeves, he simply falsely "recognized" one individual in one show full of other men and women. Mandela Effect.

[@aaronpaterson1615]

@@moorek1967 hi there, Jim Reeves must have convinced himself the guy looked familiar, the guy he thought he saw who resembled Oswald. thanks for your comnent, Aaron AUSTRALIA

[@ronniebishop2496]

Oswald did have a double.

[@jay-rk1mn]

Sith floor museum doesn't want to show any other theories, like the reporter in NYC that was killed ?

[@aaronpaterson1615]

So true Jeremy Sixth Floor Museum only exists to perpetuate the lone nut theory but evidence points at Oswald being innocent (that is didn't pull the trigger of any weapon on 22nd November and kill anyone. Paterson from Rockhampton Queensland Australia

[@ronallen7555]

You talking about Dorthy Kilgallen ?

[@lesterpaul9657]

What happened to Gary Mack? Didn't he use to be the curator of 6th floor museum? And he was one of the photo analyzers who discovered badge man in the Mooreman photo. He was not a lone nuts theory supporter.

[@Carelock]

He has a showroom in the Dallas Trade Mart? Of course he does...

[@ssexpress4798]

How did this guy get on the jury if he knew of the defendant ??

[@errorsofmodernism9715]

because it was just a "show trial" for the american public. The goal would be for Ruby to be let off with a slap on the wrist, the narrative was Ruby killed Oswald out of an outpouring of emotion for JFK,. The public would never catch on that it was to silence Oswald from telling his side of the story

[@Ckom-Tunes]

⁠​⁠@@errorsofmodernism9715 You’re a little confused. That was Ruby’s narrative. The government’s position was that it was pre-planned first degree murder.

[@meisievannancy]

Window at knee level, but shooter height, weight, hair colour, gender and general description sent out of suspect. Could that happen?

[@jodycarpenter3444]

It’s a pleasure to hear from these legitimate History tellers. I find Wayman amazing! Thank you for letting him express history the way he saw it.

[@dannyregal]

This ruby case sure did make a good distraction

[@petemiller9404]

how bout that! small world... Bush 41.

[@buttafan4010]

I had a dream! I had a dream that the National Archives Building was surrounded and occupied by 1 million people demanding release of the JFK files, and a photograph of the all night candlelight vigil made headline news around the world ... triggering a worldwide general strike and ceasefires. I had a dream!

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@buttafan4010 You had not a dream but a delusion. No released document has supported the theory of a conspiracy in the Kennedy case; and no unreleased document ever will. We know this to be true because the ARRB examined all the files not yet released. After their study was done, they reported there was no "smoking gun" in any of them. The docs that have not yet been released are because they contain names of people that are still alive and should be protected; or they detail investigative procedures the FBI, CIA or other governmental agencies do not want publicized.

[@buttafan4010]

@@stddisclaimer8020 Wow ... thanks for that information and setting me straight on all that. I actually believed that the CIA and FBI had terminated all would be leaders US, infiltrated MSM and key positions of governance ... such as the presidency ... that our leaders are not but managers in service of unknown ruling overlords. But not anymore ... thx 1138

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@@buttafan4010 Go back to your personal library of nothing but hogwash pro-conspiracy book and keep your nose buried therein. In addition, replace the tin foil in your hat before it expires....

[@buttafan4010]

@@stddisclaimer8020 So ... I guess Hoover was correct when he claimed the mafia did not even exist, there were WMDs in Iraq, there's no such thing as super nano-thermate and Larry Silverstein wasn't trying to _pull_ anything. I can't thank you enough.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@@buttafan4010 Looks like we have here is a credulous dupe who proudly advertises he's never never met a crackpot theory he didn't like. Believe in one, fall for them all . LOL...

[@ronniebishop2496]

Does he remember seeing Dorthy Kilgalon at the trial? She’s in a lot of pictures.

[@dougstyles]

She was seen right up front👍

[@dannyregal]

Latin type Not another Cuban connection..that would be fun..and I'm joking..well I think I am..you never know in this case Nice work if you can get it

[@dr.willyvan2116]

Only the good die young. Jack ,Tippet and Lee.

[@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary]

Jack was anything but good, he was a practicing Mobster..

[@hannahbellebraden1883]

​@@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary "Jack" is JFK'S nickname.

[@jfk455]

Sólamente el concluir que el tiro fatal vino desde atrás es una confesión de culpabilidad de las Instituciones encargadas de aclarar la verdad.

[@davidpallin772]

Very good post. Never heard it put this way before.

[@kenanacampora]

You had me at " distinguished war record". On your feet, Officer on deck.

[@moorek1967]

Let me get this right, they wanted him as juror because he was a decorated war veteran? What has that to do with whether he can be neutral and make a decision based on that?

[@Evocati-Augusti]

might have to do with the evidence,

[@ronniebishop2496]

Might knew someone on the inside of the whole case. Kennedy too?

[@moorek1967]

@@Evocati-Augusti The evidence would be presented at trial. If the guy had prior knowledge of evidence then that would make him a witness.

[@moorek1967]

@@ronniebishop2496 That would have already come out back then if he did.

[@larrywheels762]

He wouldn't challenge the pre ordained conclusion. Just go along. It's easy to find juries like that.

[@chiplooper4359]

Jack Ruby was popping up every where

[@jodycarpenter3444]

I’m not saying I agree with the end opinion but I truly respect his opinion as he lived it.

[@howarddennee576]

LBJ has had people go missing since the 50s Jack Ruby met at New Orleans Mob boss house Some of old mobs said that they had 2 people on the grassy knoll have you noticed all the witness are Dead and the New Orleans mob boss died at home at 83.

[@aaronz7056]

Paranoid, crackpot rubbish.

[@ronrendina8986]

Jack was shot from back front every ware they need jim dead no lone nut

[@deborahleone4351]

Very, very difficult to hear/understand Mr. Waymon.😢God bless him, in Jesus’s Precious Name, AMEN.🕊💕🙏💜✝️✡️🌹

[@dougstyles]

ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY

[@rentslave]

In the local Dallas paper of Saturday,Nov.23,there's a notice that the Carousel Club would be closed until after JFK's funeral,a strong indication that Ruby did not act on the spur of the moment.

[@snicky58]

Ruby or any defendant can't be denied the right to testify in his own defense! The final decision is up to the defendant. Most of the time the defense attorney will strongly advise against it, but no one, including the defense attorney, can force a client to not take the stand.

[@rosu5726]

Great service. Thank you. Seems that poor oswald was totally set up. I suspect his wife's statement of him trying to shoot someone prior could have been our gvnmnt telling her to say it. Logical she'd have done whatever told.

[@errorsofmodernism9715]

of course, in the Soviet Union of you went against the governement narrative you would be sent to the Gulag. She was a young woman in a foreign country with a foreign language and customs, what would most people have done in her place?

[@ronniebishop2496]

She couldn’t even speak English and from Russia she was scared to death of our government.

[@724bigal]

Conspiracy fit the void after Kennedys death perfectly!

[@tevman69]

Blah, blah, blah, mostly about nothing.

[@larrywheeler9917]

We all just went along with the authority back then. If they said it was a commie, that was good enough for me. It was the G men of Hoover and those generals we trusted. We were so naive to just how rotten the power structure in Texas was back then. Ruby was a payoff man for the police and city hall. Decker was a silent part owner with Binion in gambling joints. HL hunt could call on joe civello the mafia boss of Dallas. Campisi was a layoff bookie joint . If this book depository group ever got to close to the truth, the city fathers would pull the plug.

[@aaronpaterson1615]

yes good observations and Secret service tellin chief Curry that they were waitin on the Dallas Citizens Committee to reveal the final motorcade route (and motorcycle escort numbers)

[@aaronpaterson1615]

Waymon Rose never had any doubts that Oswald was the sole assassin because as he said he never got into theories and only had access to what was provided as evidence. He also had the sole job on focussing on Ruby's shooting Oswald and nothing else. He didn't have the facts presented to him bless him. Aussie Avenger.

[@dme1016]

A true assassin would've shot multiple times in the head ofr heart. Ruby shot Lee's punk ass once in the upper stomach area, and he did it on his own. He didn't kill Lee either. The wound wasn't fatal, as the ER docs have said. They stopped that bleeding. His little bastard heart eventually stopped beating, & they didn't restart it. Lee did not die from a shot. Ruby should've been aquited of any murder charge.

[@victorcarrillo1570]

He would have but he was tackled before he tried. He said that at the trial. No bullet, no cardiac arrest. Ruby killed Oswald.

[@dme1016]

@@victorcarrillo1570 Ruby couldn't hold such a secret from one end of the block to another, if he were actually an "assassin". He was a mashuginah, who liked "action"....liked playing the role of a connected guy. He wasn't. Jack was pissed that Lee did what he did in Jack's town. & decided to act on it on impulse. He wasn't even supposed to be there when Lee was transferred....but they were behind schedule. It was a happenstance, & when he saw Lee, the mashuginah in Jack came out. Assault with a deadly weapon, yeah. Murder? Hell no! But, I'm just glad he laid some pain on the little punk. Bcuz had Lee gone to trial, some stupid jury MAY have let him walk. His heart stopped, & he died. Shit happens.

[@errorsofmodernism9715]

It was up to the team controlling the ambulance to drive around and have him bleed to death after that

[@moorek1967]

@@dme1016 He wasn't that big of a mobster in Dallas. He owned a few strip joints and that was it. He had to give his money to the bigger guys who ran Dallas.

[@ronniebishop2496]

Hahahahaha

[@decryptera860]

Jack Ruby didn’t shoot Oswald. FBI agent James Bookhout was the stand-in as Jack Ruby was being questioned upstairs before alledged being shot live on TV (no blood + reflex his hand/arm around his heart area even tho alledgedly handcuff)

[@philwright2480]

You're nuts

[@stevenb427]

@@philwright2480 why?

[@hoss-lk4bg]

alcohol and depression has really taken its toll on him rip # covid sucks

[@saskoilersfan]

Texas vs C's Lewis aka Jack Ruby....

[@ronrendina8986]

Wayman doent rember hes reading the government. Lie thanx