just a thought

[@Strawberrychocolatex]

"We are literally strong, the Armys I know and the BTS y'all know, we are all strong. We'll find a way, we always have. If there's no way, let's draw the map, the whole map again, so no worries" - RM

[@hennygomes6508]

🥺💜

[@RainbowSunDrop]

💜

[@cecilyadams4086]

I love this quote very much.

[@elainesalvador8011]

Thank you for sharing this video which ARMY needs more than ever! Stay strong ARMY they need us as now like we needed them, we will weather this storm! This will continue until they are OT7 again, APOBANGPO.

[@beckyheywood1706]

I love this so much!! We all have each other!! Holds my thight to make it right!! 💜🔥 Together forever!!

[@poppykopsidas3589]

I feel our guys knew something a long time ago and that is why they asked us to trust them. These are smart businessmen, who know the game. I trust BTS completely, and will forever be loud and proud in support of my kings. The clapback when they return is going to be very painful for haters and antis. Whatever they decide to do, they have my support.

[@shelleythompson-brock6412]

Right?!!! Bangtan 2025. Waiting for our Anpanmen.

[@Dtharrr]

@@poppykopsidas3589 APOBANGPO💜

[@jerimkang2999]

Thank you! I thought I was the only one thinking this. They knew the smear campaigns will drop as soon as all of them are enlisted. TRUST THEM. I will. I am also glad that Jin's solo album in simply "Happy" -- It is exactly what ARMY needs to carry us through the remaining 8 months. ADOR woman citing V's call is another part of that smear campaign, to tear ARMY apart. She just angered me all the more. SO, I cannot wait until Jin's HAPPY, to pull ARMY back together, as a solid unit. I am streaming only BTS music. Staying positive. Patiently trusting.

[@joannweber4393]

You are so right! I tried to be a .member and cannot seem to get it right through weverse.... my 2-3 times yearly tries every year. lol.... so I am a casual..very devoted BTS fan. I listen 😊to their music and pick videos all through the day. I love their honest sincerity and the fact that they are such good, well-meaning people! (Actually, I am in hospital and still watching you and Bts content rvery day.)You keep making your content.- PLEASE - you have the insight of what is reality and disseminate it perfectly.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT! It is appreciated!

[@islandgirl1577]

@@joannweber4393wishing you a speedy recovery 💜

[@carolinemcgregor9825]

I don't think it's any coincidence that Jin has picked the theme Happy for his.album. That man understands the need for positivity, kindness and light. Run Jin and his variety show appearances are his reminder to us all that this whole thing should be fun. So I focus on him and the other members and block out any of these obvious clickbait channels. Thank you for making this video Bora.

[@erika-g4mer_yoongi207]

He must have seen all this commotion related to Yoongi, the shit Min Heejin did, etc...

[@hwbtsluv6015]

That makes so much sense! And I think it's working. I had so many funny edits of Run Jin and videos with I'll be there as a sound combined with compilations of other members on my fyp recently.

[@MeizhenZhu-e5q]

And hence the more army should move and support IBT and Jin’s new coming album HAPPY. The result is awful and USA the biggest Fandom base is completely missing in IBT. We need to work hard for Jin and amplify his message to army be Happy and stay for BTS isn’t it?

[@carolinemcgregor9825]

@@MeizhenZhu-e5q Yes, we will do our best for Jin, but please be mindful of the tone we're trying to set here around positive encouragement.

[@Vicstylex]

i 100% believe that the target audience for his recent project are armys. Thats probably the reason he is not promoting his new song

[@em5522]

Honestly, that Colbert segment and the reactions to it was a nice wake up call on how ridiculous kmedia and kpop fans have been reacting to BTS. It really shows how insular and weird their reactions actually are.

[@LPnerd]

also, he got that news from a entire article that came out on the BBC both UK and America. The world laughed at that entire thing about SUGA. also, as a nurse I can tell you if his BAL was what they tried to claim, he wouldn't have gotten himself off the ground let alone his scooter or helmet. The entire thing was such BS. The fact that he had to do the walk of shame, made me really dislike Korean culture. also, he did a song and MV about corupt cops... maybe that had something to do with why 3 police were following him in a very LOW crime district?

[@XDeathwingSilenceX]

Exactly

[@alperry02]

​@LPnerd as a healthcare professional, I cosign ALL of this

[@marinal.]

nods

[@marinal.]

@@LPnerd ahh, corrupt cops dang u make so much sense ty

[@beth5870]

I think as a fandom, we should all rewatch Run BTS. Let’s bring some fun back in when we are waiting.

[@NamHar7n]

That’s what I’m doing! 💜

[@steffirakotobe544]

U are actually on to smthg ....casual and core need this😭😭😭....OMG u're so right

[@hellothere7268]

You can also watch run Jin He made those for us during these times

[@sbbs207]

I already completed it. Right now I am hooked on bangtab bombs and rewatching suchwita. Also really missing this weeks run jin 😅😅

[@bethgood3217]

@@sbbs207, I rewatched Suchwita when all the Suga stuff was happening.

[@swswsw406]

I’m glad that we have someone wise like boracity in the fandom. Blaming & accusing others wont help the situations. Let’s support the members that are active now better & make the environment healthier.

[@shotglassoftear]

Great . Facts!! but please stream and vote too. Cuz we need you. Although ig I'm part of the casual army but still it's frustrating the way we r going downhills. (Again, don't take it to your heart. I'm not accusing you. Just saying in general..to whoever gonna read my comment!)

[@rainwashes8]

This!

[@infiresmin5970]

Ikrr on Twitter on one side it's all the hate comments and then you see even big accounts accusing and blaming like it's so tiring

[@infiresmin5970]

Ikrr on Twitter on one side it's all the hate comments and then you see even big accounts accusing and blaming like it's so tiring

[@Taeyxngiez]

@@infiresmin5970yup! I joined armytwt around 2020 and the vibes were so fun and nice at the time. It was still a little toxic but def easier to ignore. Now when I go on twt all I see are legal documents, solo accusations, and my fav accounts leaving. I just support the solo releases without engaging in the twt fandom now. Maybe I’ll go back on twt once bts reunites.

[@Sserendipityyyy1]

Y'all 🗿 let's stay with bangtan forever

[@thvsblanket]

Ily

[@Sserendipityyyy1]

@thvsblanket Love 😭

[@RenwanSorahan]

ot7 or nothing, bangtan for life

[@goeienacht]

Yessss

[@daimonddestination]

Ot7 for lifee💜

[@aliciaskaggs5464]

As a casual Army who loves and appreciates BTS, I often don't know how to vote or support them the way its needed. I'm a full time working mom in the US and often feel disconnected from what's happening in their world. Thank you for giving us value as well. Your articles are inspiring and well thought out.

[@jerimkang2999]

I am with you. I am not a Mom but as soon as I get home, I am connected to BTS via YT and Weverse. I post messages in Weverse to the members though they may never get to read them. I vote mostly for Western awards shows only as the others seem too complex. I stream BTS songs only. I have no IG, Tik Tok or X accounts as I do not think it will be good for my mental health. I simply support where and when I can. Casual ARMY we may be but we are still critical to BTS for their Comeback and continuing years thereafter.

[@Madhuri-fi8lf]

Actually l am a student who only love BTS SONGS CAUSE I DONT FEEL CONNECTED TO OTHERS but cause l am a student l am not engaged like core fandom and l only use weverse so whenever there is any update from core fandom l just tried to spread it on weverse so more armies like me can get to know but l make sure l vote for them cause it take few minutes only but when it comes to streaming my contribution is very less as compared to core fandom but whenever any member is in hard time because of SOME PEOPLE l try my best to engage more in weverse and spread it as much as possible so that l can also be part of fandom who are fighting for member

[@shelleythompson-brock6412]

The best thing you can do, is to continue streaming their videos, and music. Just do you, enjoying BTS all the while...and you put in your support! Borahae! ARMY STRONG.

[@nira7065]

I'm also a single mom and consider myself a cusual ARMY. All I can do and am doing is voting on e.g. mnet app, streaming on yt and spotify and following all the news about BTS.

[@cecilyadams4086]

I cant access the voting shows, but strm on YT and comment to keep the commment section positive and contribute to engagements.

[@estherapobangpo]

Boracity continues to speak straight factssss

[@LPnerd]

these are stright assumptions about people she doesn't know or understand. sorry. I love her, but this time she has missed .

[@yong_ki9821]

2025 is not long now, but in order to make the comeback grand, we need to trust bts and their words .We know things are as now we need each other the most , no matter what anyone says ..our trust and support in bts shouldn't fade, not even little. These big corporations or higher ups or anyone paying people to start hate campaigns could only get bigger, and that means we need to stand strong . We are here for bts , not anyone, so let's move forward with that . 2025 comeback should be big, and we should make sure that happens .

[@nataliacoggins6769]

Yeah well, thanks to the Colbert segment, this re-exposed Suga to the funeral wreaths with his name on them, bullying, harassing, and threatening behaviors from mentally unstable antis and haters!!!! Also, for the first time there were credible threats to find Suga and kill him, as they stated his enlistment makes him an open target and easy to access!!!! This Colbert segment had unintended serious consequences, rather than calling out the idiotic SK DUI laws!!!!!

[@angelicar2901]

I firmly believe in the power of what I do. I vote, stream, share, comment, report, etc. Everything I can do for BTS I do. But I don't attack others because they don't do what I do. I remember when I began stanning BTS, I was amazed by ARMY projects. The donations on behalf of the artist, trending hashtags, having fun on Twitter and making jokes, etc. I'm sure every new ARMY would love that. I miss that. Every time I watch a negative post I ignore it. If I have to, I report and block. I don't spread negativity. If someone asks about anything BTS related I answer. Every ARMY should focus on being positive and helpful. And mostly, I trust BTS.

[@rainwashes8]

Yes, let’s focus on supporting them rather than spreading negativity and hate!

[@sbbs207]

Yessss so TRUE. Though I am one of those army wo don't necessarily focus on streaming and voting.

[@rmy2202]

This reminded me of what jin said recently- "don't be angry at someone who doesn't know how to do a certain thing, be patient and keep on teaching them again and again".. dude! This made be think- Was he really telling us on how to navigate the situation happily and being patient.. That man is jinja genius

[@Maria-uv9pd]

Such a good plan! Not engaging, just reporting and blocking! Engage with the positivity instead. Better for you and the timeline. Now, we just need to convince everyone else 😅

[@penelopepitstock]

I started following them in late 2022, I guess that was before my time. I wish it was like that 🥲

[@ndunkosi5270]

I'm a baby Army and I know to only trust BTS. We're in this forever. Bangtan Forever💜

[@sherryjyj5910]

yess 1. Only trust BTS 2. Stream for BTS as much as you can 3. BE LOUD, but react only with positivity

[@unikorn_paws]

Baby Army too!! To trust only BTS is the main thing I've learned so whatever they want or say, I'm behind them all the way.

[@Niyaj1200]

Another baby ARMY (core fandom tho - well as much as I can be as a minor) reporting!

[@sparklespot0342]

Hi baby Army! 👋 Has anyone taught you how to vote for MAMA? MAMA is a big award show in Korea and we really need help voting so that RM and Hobi can win a trophy each. I made a Community Post on my profile with more information if you're interested! Apobangpo 💜

[@Niyaj1200]

@@sparklespot0342 it’s on mnet right?!!

[@libertytrimor7424]

Yes, i am a casual Army 😊 it can be soo tiring to read all the hates and attacks from core Armies to casual Armies, but my love for BTS helping me to move on and still continue doing my best to support them. I appreciate your enlightenment on this matter, once again, excellent job on this narrative.❤

[@kristie9144]

I'm curious to see what you consider to be a "casual ARMY". Because, from my 9 years experience in ARMY, casual fans tend to not support the group when it's most needed and easily walk away in favor of other groups. This is the prime source of frustration for core ARMY where casuals are concerned. And please understand, core ARMY, particularly us long-timers, have been abused over and over and over again so our patience tends to run a little thin. We have seen and dealt with so much hate that we've become prickly.

[@hope7754]

i hope you stream and vote for all bts' releases🥺💜 they really need your support! who will support bts, if not army... doesn't matter, core or casual, we're the same fandom for the same artists

[@sarala_k92]

​​@@kristie9144 Do you consider solo stans as core ARMY because they are putting so much effort and making so much noise and very supportive but for only one member? Watching hate from other fandoms feels natural or normal, but hate within the fandom, or trying to undermine other members, or deliberately ignoring other members is hard to fathom for normal fans. I think the core fans are there but many of them turned solo core fans, that's where the problem arises

[@cranberriesoft]

​@@kristie9144 I think a casual army is just someone who is not active much on social media. Think of your friends or family. They get into BTS and like them but they don't pay attention to the discourse.

[@silviabertozzi7996]

I would advise "casual" ARMY to join the local fandoms. I joined Italian ARMY and they organized LED trucks in support of Suga, and since I was there I went and took picture and post it. They organize and inform on positive upcoming events related to Jin and Jhope and also Streaming campaign for whomever wants to participate. I might suggest we also run streaming event for BTS run! Or BTS music starting from the first album. Thanks Boracity for reminding us to spread positivity. ARMY United, look for a local ARMY club and enjoy BTS. Together we grow stronger.

[@tlj22001]

I also think that the implosion of twitter that was our main way of organising and reaching the casual ARMYs is responsible for that feeling of disorganisation. The very strategic attacks that resulted in the closing of some important accounts also had more effect than expected. Also that counter protest at HYBE was THE BEST thing ARMY has done in a long time💜

[@vartite]

Leaving Twitter definitely created more of a disconnect from the fandom for me, but it had become too toxic and stressful to stay (both inside and outside of Stan Twitter). I have Insta and TikTok, but I don't use them much except to check BTS and Big Hit accounts. I listen on Spotify most days and go to Weverse regularly to watch content, but I don't engage with the fan boards like I did in the early days of Vlive. I guess I'm basically KZbin ARMY at this point - I'm on here every day watching BTS content in some form, and I do chime in to comment sometimes. I vote, buy albums, and pay for premium content to show support when I can, and don't stress if I can't. We need our core fandom and I appreciate and respect what they do (counterprogramming a BTS music video award show to protest the boys being shut out of the VMAs was epic and fun - and seriously impressive for being organized in less than a month) but I'm also a firm believer in doing what you can, even if it's not as much as others are doing. Casual ARMYs are still ARMY. ☺️💜

[@nehalilisays]

In 2018 it felt essential to have a Twitter account as an Army. And then came Weverse and their individual Instagram profiles and that super problematic guy took over the platform. I always wondered why Armys rely on Twitter so much because apparently it has been a relatively toxic social media platform for a long time now and since a lot of people become Armys while searching for healing it would make more sense to do the hardcore fandom work within safer spaces.

[@Pinkiiiiii9]

Omg this is a great point. After it became X a lot of momentum had shifted with the switch up of the algorithms. Didn't even think about that

[@myjjk]

This, omg, especially since the algorithm pushes hate tweets on the TL and the boys are gone from the app (understandably so). Many other ARMYs have now moved onto Instagram and Tiktok and Weverse to connect with the boys. It just leaves the core ARMY on Twitter and a bunch of solos and haters 😭

[@jkksmuse]

​@@myjjk damn you're so on point😅 bc I definitely see the remaining army on twitter be completely overwhelmed by solo stans.

[@eiman23_27]

This video came on the right time I'm a core army and this week I'm on the edge of the cliff Thank you so much for this reminder 💜 We got this

[@autumndawn2466]

We can stand on the edge of that cliff holding hands. I'm with you, ARMYs, and BTS to the very end. 💜

[@lovelybts7291]

Bro I get it! As someone whose been here in the core since 2015, I’ve never known a day of peace except during Persona era in 2019. 2019 was actually our best time as a fandom (at least in my opinion) and I hope we can get back to that same level in 2025. I’ve only stepped back from Twitter for myself & mental health this year and it was the best decision I’ve ever made and I’m rejuvenated to go all out when they come back! Of course I pop in from time to time to check in and stay in the loop and of course support their solo eras when they came out, I’m just not obsessively spending hours on end on Twitter like I used to! 😭 I hope this makes some sense at least idk 💜

[@rainwashes8]

Thank you for your honesty and for staying with us! I hope we can start cultivating healthier relationships, and this conversation is a good start!

[@rmy2202]

I just read somewhere in this videos comment thread only, a quote said by RM- "The ARMY that I know and the BTS you know, we are all stronger, and we will find a way. If there's no way, then let's draw the map again" We did it and we will do it, let's understand our goal is to engage casual ARMYs more with positive excitement rather than direct conversation that seems like burden some commandments..

[@maryr1905]

@@autumndawn2466 And us casual ARMYs can hopefully hang on to your shirts to keep you from tumbling over the edge. You are so important to BTS and the rest of us.

[@roiblack8587]

Wonderful thoughts. And please let me add one thing. We to acknowledge the strength of ARMY so far. Not for a moment, not a second was there serious discussions about disbandment. Just the feverish dreams of the haters. They are desperate now and it will get worse. I am convinced there is no limit of their ruthless stupidity. All those haters, so called journalists want nothing more than failure of BTS. What a triumph that would be in their eyes. And the best thing we can do to be happy. With the members, with ourselves, with their music and life.

[@rmy2202]

Agree 100 percent.. We have done so so well with each members release in the chapter 2.. It is just us behaving like Asian moms right now and comparing our present with past, without releasing the success of present.. We all desperately need a BTS achievement video for e everyone to realise, the core and casual have been excellent at their jobs and will continue to do so.. We just gotta trust each other and tannies

[@maryr1905]

@@rmy2202 Good idea - we need a video on what was accomplished during MS!

[@Hatter5150]

So so true! Being healthy, happy, and engaged is the very best revenge against everything coming at us now and will come in the future

[@adithyasunitha5370]

Yeah, I was so happy with our fandom, I didn't even see a single Army demanding Suga to leave the group. I even saw other fandoms praising ARMY for their trust in the members and the unity among us. It is very rarely that we get appreciation from the fellow fandoms.

[@Selenchic]

IQ of Boracity is over 200. Give her an award or something

[@unikorn_paws]

Honestly, can we please? Love her

[@LPnerd]

@@unikorn_paws I love her, but I disagree with this one post.

[@BtsxKatseyexTxt]

Fr

[@unikorn_paws]

@@LPnerd really? What about it did you not agree with. She has a way of explaining things that just make sense to me. What did you take away?

[@LPnerd]

@@Tiw111 If I disagree, that's ok. I'm not mean, nor am I saying anything hateful. and I welcome others POV with my comments, it's how we learn about each other.

[@Mori-Chan613]

I love you for bringing this up @Boracity! I'm probably a casual ARMY Feeding on the positive energy from my fellow (core) ARMYs. Yes, I'm tired of the ongoing shinanigans but one thing is for sure -- I'M NOT LEAVING THIS FANDOM. BTS and ARMY is already part of my life. Whatever they say, it doesn't matter. I'm just here waiting for their return. Focus on BTS only. Trust BTS only.

[@arisol1011]

Same. I know what's going on, I try to vote on music show awards and buy their albums and feed off our positivity. Never leaving. Never leaving. Never leaving.

[@4EVERWITHBTS]

BORACITY I FUCKING LOVE YOU I was crying watching this video because it just puts things in perspective and it feels like you helped organise the mess that's in my head a little bit to an extent. I feel so fricking burnt out from all the smear campaigns and I feel selfish for saying that because it's the tannies who are targeted but I feel exhausted. That does not mean I will stop supporting or streaming or defennding the boys. On the contrary, if anything, it makes me want to support them more. It's good to know that we are all not alone and ARMYs still have each other. BTS has ARMYs and ARMYs have BTS. Let's be louder than the hate and keep supporting our 7 and give them a warm welcome back in 8 months.

[@sherryjyj5910]

If any other group got 1/10th of this much hate that BTS is getting, they would have crumbled into oblivion long time ago. But BTS is still going strong, walking with their heads up. Not many ARMY are active like the core ARMY, but they are there when we need them. Remember that time? When YOONGI was blackmailed to do the illegal photo line, ARMY literally took over the WORLD'S BIGGEST social platforms youtube, x and naver. ARMY made the WHOLE kmedia IRRELEVANT. And that is not possible with just 1000 ARMY. It also helped so much that ARMY was prepared and shared many days ahead what the plan of action will be. So that casual ARMY could do their part. I remember reading that a grandpa ARMY learned for the first time how to report and block on youtube. lol

[@rmy2202]

You never walk alone.. Young forever Borahae ARMY

[@rmy2202]

@Omely-ke7ds we don't do stuff for anybody, we do stuff for ppl who helped us to be alive, who helped us to survive, who helped us to be confident, who helped us to be happy no matter what.. What we do is for our happiness.. Its okay to not understand this Symbiotic relationship..

[@4EVERWITHBTS]

@@Omely-ke7ds Sorry but if I love someone deeply I do fight for them even if it’s hard on me. BTS has given me things and helped me through rough times in my life so protecting them is worth it to me. You don’t have to understand that

[@4EVERWITHBTS]

@@rmy2202 Exactly, you worded it perfectly

[@mamawahg3736]

Finally someone said it. I was getting so frustrated and irritated. I see no evidence except allegations and the same news outlets that smeared Suga. I’m so over the news about them and New jeans’s Crazy CEO which btw is getting what she set out to do. I just want to enjoy the fact that Jin and Jhope are home and the rest of the members ’ new and old content in peace.

[@elesyeen]

There was a reason BTS repeated again and again to trust them , and the fact they're coming next year EVERYONE and their mother is gonna try to bring them down , but pleaseeee don't believe ANYONE except BTS 💗

[@jessjoymoyer]

Perfect timing for BTS ARMY to hype up Jin’s new album HAPPY!🎉💜Lets soak it up and spread the happy joy of music! I am so proud of the ARMYs that have stood up for ourselves and the members, I have been impressed with our ability to advocate and organized, supported and implemented the counter protest. Lets keep going! 💜🫶🏼💜

[@nathufo]

I'm a 2018 Army so I have been through hell with our boys quite a lot already. 2024 is by far the worst I experienced and that's very telling. 1st pat on all Army shoulders bc yeah really tough year with crazy violents attacks of astounding scales. Indeed it is time to take a step back and remember who we stan. Lovely deep fun extremely talented artists who make great music and are outstanding performers. We can be loud with our love and unwavering support and reassert who are boys are to us ; for everyone to understand that we intend to stay and wait and stay strong and stan our boys in peace fun and joy. Let them be them. Let us be us. We need to bring back the fun and we hv it with run jin and happy is coming. We hv loads of very good music released just this year alone. The noise tries to burry that. But every Army say NOooooo. The streaming goals is just to remember to add those songs on our playlists bc we listen to our boys music. Streaming is listen in a certain way so our stream count. Sometimes I looped 😃 I try not to but I indulge 😃 I think we should share our memories and bring back the older concepts and albums and concerts to pass down to newer Army how we all fell for our tannies and how they became who they are today. As for the smear campaigns we need to keep an eye on them and analyzing them coldly like you said to inform Army about what is truly going on and how we will collectively reply to them. The answers depend on the situation. But at the end of the day we are fans of a music group and soloists. They are the ones who matter to us. I cant believe we are so lucky to hv 7 beautiful artists like them and ofc I'm not talking about how attractive they are but beautiful glowing men who are embodiment of happiness in a pretty unkind world. Army are BTS wings so to use words Joon said in one of his speeches maybe 2017 let's spread our beautiful wings so we can all fly to 2025 to welcome our tannies together. Tell Joon ah that I want a kiss on the forehead if we do great. Fighting 🔥 Btw I cant wait for his documentary 💜

[@rmy2202]

Beautifully said

[@penelopepitstock]

Right? I’m on the edge of my seat waiting for Namjoon’s doco to hit Australia 🤩🥹💜🎉

[@springdaykeukenhof9312]

Thank you BoraCity! This is a wake-up call! Let's not get distracted!

[@rainwashes8]

Yes, that’s exactly what we need! A wake up call!

[@KOOKlEDOUGH]

it's like the saying goes "you can't fight fire with fire" you *can*, however, fight fire with water. i know these smear campaigns are exhausting and horrible, but if we're being horrible instead of constructive and conductive back then no one will win. we gotta be louder, but louder positively. louder in a way that helps.

[@penelopepitstock]

Exactly 👏👏👏 fighting for BTS shouldn’t mean literally fighting with ppl its pointless anyway,

[@kkaepjanggggg]

Thankyou so so much for making this video. We, as a fandom needed this. As you said, we need to keep the excitement alive for upcoming 8 months. It's gonna be really hard but we need to do it for BTS. One thing I'm always worried about is BTS getting tired due to these constant hate. I try to keep those thoughts away from me always. As long as army's love remains strong, BTS will remain strong too!

[@silviabertozzi7996]

Thanks God they are in the army, they likely are focusing on that. Hopefully so. Suga being serving outside the military precinct was an easier target for the haters. Media all of them should be sued. I hope Hybe will sue them all.

[@rmy2202]

Whenever those thought arise then trust in your fellow ARMYs, we will find a way, together to show it to them how much they are loved.. If we fail then you tell them that they are loved and that will be enough for them to stay.. Also, don't forget that on 25th October 2024, jin has sworn an oath to be there for us always, whether he could see us or not, he will be there.. He promised that and one thing our boys don't do is break promises

[@winnifredminnoh7431]

The best response is understanding each other and being louder with our support for BTS. God bless you Boracity

[@BTS_JUNGKOOK_97]

I'm dying for the day they come back.... The day the real armies who are resting now come back The day the solos that ruined the fandom in their solo eras go extinct after crying over bts's reunion The day the media stumbles to start another campaign against them because of their success but they find out armys are more united, mature and ready! The day the whole kpop drama stops affecting bts or including bts selfishly ( won't happen but if we ignore it it'll decline) The day it'll be back to fun memories, sweet smiles and everything we miss💔💔💔 I just wanna say for the real armies that stayed, only believed in bts, didn't care about the lies and never hated a member: I love you❤ and I hope you get a ticket in 2025😊❤ Let's stay strong it's literally 7 months left!!!! Bring me back when it's done cause I promise I'll be there!!!❤️‍🔥

[@Sherluck93]

👏 Lovely! We'll be there and HAPPY! Only 2 months until 2025. 🎉 And 6 months until their special 10th anniversary HYYH project! 🥳 💜

[@shelleythompson-brock6412]

Don't know about you, but BTS isn't resting, and neither is ARMY. We still have a job to do, so keep streaming their vids. Borahae!

[@valerinist]

agree with you, even though most time im the type of person who choose remain solrnt n ignore in most circumstances. but not with BTS matter, as i know hows the reputation k media n k netizen is. most ppl r not fully believe n got own judgement, still at certain spot n part they unavoidable ll be affected by loud noise of some seems true but fake opinion which perceive by general speaking n perception, or even worst they make things as black joke n teasing which showing disrespect at some point. therefore, as much as i hate to see all those manipulative drama, i choose to follow up n keep some channel crosscheck otger channel to see what ppl talking abt while some info collected. all these years all kind of teasing n manipulate how bad person or company is without concrete fact n reasons, all based on baseless emotions saying who getting priority n whose being neglected, some toxic solo stans which attack members at some point really pissing me off. some even express they dont like BE album n blame company for being unprofessional n disrespect bts, im certainly sure those fans definitely not army as they don't even pay attention to all sort of info n vid clip which release how members in charge as project manager with different responsibilities. dig deeply they said bcs they hear what other say n find it this might be the truth which they never validate it as 1st. if ur freedom to like or dislike art pieces or music pieces but how could u use this as reason to blame other for creating the opinion u perceive plus influnce by others, dont make things complicated, dont need to find reasons to validate ur dislike. just give urself freedom to appreciate things without other opinion, dont rush to make emotional conclusion n judgement. i see other fandom got affected n jump into conclusion which they might got mislead at 1st place. now, its the time to stay focus to bts n army, not others. we do things with respect but we need each other to overcome these critical moment with loud support to BTS. when u r strong, all the noise ll fade out sooner or later. dont let this deviate our trust n love for BTS, BTS N ARMY ll be there for each other no matter what kind of circumstances facing with respect to members will n decision. dont let fear n worry reduce our loud voice to support BTS, thats all we need to know 👏👏👍💜

[@Sherluck93]

@@valerinist TRUST and FOCUS! Stay kind! 💜

[@hellothere7268]

Genuine question tho… are the real armys who left but didn’t support the members coming back before 2025 real armys? Can’t we be more loud for seokjin? Who has worked non stop for armys?

[@Charm313]

people just need to realize that we all have to LOVE stronger than we HATE. Show that the LOVE (for BTS) is much much stronger than the hatred for the company/antis/solo.

[@rainwashes8]

Yes, love is stronger than hate!

[@paimonspie8913]

exactly!

[@im.margery]

Yes!

[@angel-ke9vs]

You are mature and smart my dear. I absolutely love how thoughtful, understanding and kind you are.

[@rainwashes8]

We need more of this maturity and kindness

[@Tae_Vear7]

*Agreed, Fighting with other Fandoms isn't helping nor arguing is going to help, Because that will make the boys go towards what Army's are giving so much attention to ans they'll see the negativity more, affecting Their own mental health, Hence, If Army's, rather than focusing and protecting BTS by indulging in those shitty controversies Actually focus on Showing support to BTS and protect their mental health with positive messages and appreciation, That would seriously be the most beautiful thing currently.* *ARMY'S LISTEN. WE HAVE TO PROTECT THEIR MENTAL HEALTH WHICH WILL PROTECT THEIR PHYSICAL HEALTH AS WELL. So Let's out good support and positive messages for them. Let's be real and indulge JUST WITH BTS. Look forward to JIN and support him, MATTER WHAT.*

[@hengwaileng9036]

Agreed 💯.. Let's shut out and ignore all the noise and just concentrate to stream Jin "I'll Be There"... Borahae....let's stay united

[@Tae_Vear7]

@hengwaileng9036 Yes. Together, Forever with BTS. 💜⭐.

[@rainwashes8]

Agreed! I would add that besides protecting BTS’s mental health, we should also care for the mental health of other army! Let’s be kinder to each other :)

[@penelopepitstock]

@@rainwashes8yes 👏👏👏💜

[@savage_pav]

Never seen a single peaceful day ever since 2023 .. we have gone Tru a lot and still struggling . Fighting inside and outside the Fandom . We are still here and only here for BTS . let's stay strong and keep up for boys .

[@rmy2202]

You nice keep going.. Borahae

[@savage_pav]

@rmy2202 sure ... kaepjjang 👍🤣

[@rmy2202]

@@savage_pav ahhh! I'm reading this in a comment reply after so so so long.. Why I'm tearing up after being so happy, with just one word.. My ARMY world is slowly resetting again Kaepjjjjaaannggg 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@erume5776]

I agree so much. I've been trying to maintain positive energy and be hyper for new releases, involve more people, create projects, but I'm just... exhausted? by the unending chain of frustrating events and, to be 100% honest, by the amount of things to hype up with a smile on my face. obviously we are very blessed to have every member sharing their music with us, but 11 albums in 2 years... I am a squished lemon 😭 I love each album, I stream and do my part, but army promo involves so much more and requires so much more emotional and time resources and then the goals not met, and I open our core fandom spaces, and all I see is more frustration and blaming these and those armys, while I just wish there was a little bit more understanding of the situation we are in! and the emotional state of the fandom that will affect us no matter how much we don't want it to. to make positive energy around a debut or comeback we first need to give positive energy to EACH OTHER. we need to act more merciful with ourselves. we need to stop taking hate news to heart and act about it with cold mind. we should not allow negativity to abduct our spaces and we all just need to rest... without new releases to work for, without haters yapping and WITH the members home. just some time to settle the normality again and recharge for future accomplishments we too can't be working non stop, we aren't limitless

[@KootchLB]

My dear, all I can say to you is STOP WORKING. I know that core ARMY set goals because they are their gift to our boys, but it's supposed to be fun! The members will be so sad if they think they are the source of stress instead of love and joy. The haters will never stop yapping - what you can control is whether or not you let it upset you. When we get new music from the boys, accept it as their gift to us, not something you work for. Before setting your streaming on however many devices, just play the music on one device, give yourself the first five minutes or so to have the song to yourself. Remember that they are our beloved boys, not our taskmasters.

[@erume5776]

@KootchLB yeah I always give myself time to befriend a new release :) might take me a whole day to go through an album, I just organize streaming on a separate device. I have a precious relationship with music, it's my main driving force in life, so I will not trade it for anything as nothing else gives me the same joy. that's exactly why I took 6 month break from fandom activities in the beginning of this year. I took music with me, but I put aside everything else I think the reason for my burnout was more so the very frustrated environment in the fandom rn. instead of gifting grace and understanding to each other i saw (and still see) a lot of pointed fingers and blindless blaming. often without a proper logic behind the accusations, just to spill the anger. such tone won't lead us anywhere, it does not encourage anyone either. but I also understand those being tired of putting in efforts and not seeing a proportionate response time after time and all these feelings accumulate with each release, that why I think it feels more and more exhausting as the time goes we need to check the attitude and resolve this on a fandom level before it blows up

[@pinkladies66]

As a casual and fairly new Army I always had an issue with the core fandom trying to make people feel guilty for not streaming enough etc. I listen to their music because it’s good and because I enjoy it. If you make something feel like homework I’m not going to enjoy it anymore. Don’t worry my top artist on Spotify has been BTS for the past 2 years and will be this year as well but I’m not always streaming something over and over again because that would ruin the song for me. Maybe that makes me a bad Army but for my own mental health I can’t get in too deep into the drama and rumors. I’ve never once known which label a particular artist even belongs to prior to BTS so all this in-fighting and drama has been exhausting to me. People have forgotten that being a fan of an artist is supposed to be fun! I do understand the other side of it though and want to protect them as well. It’s really the Korean media being toxic and companies not protecting their artists well enough that’s the issue here. 😢

[@Cat-v1s]

I agree, I'm a very casual Army and being worried for Suga, and I started trying to keep up with everything going on but it was too stressful for me, my mental health didn't allow for it. I've had to take a step back though I still feel worried about the situation. And there are very new Army like my mum, I don't think they get involved at all, and while I mentioned to her a few things happening, I didn't want her to go onto twitter and get stressed out, cuz she really would be. And she would not know how to navigate Twitter and probably get really misled and confused. She's been really happy finding other "senior" older Army on TikTok, and watching Jin (she loves his song Epiphany!), and I'd like to keep it that way, her just enjoying watching the BTS members and appreciating their music. Not getting stressed out or pressured to do anything.

[@pinkladies66]

@ for sure, I got off twitter long before I even got into BTS I feel like it turns many fandoms and topics toxic and turns people against each other 😤

[@nuhkyah23]

​@pinkladies66 it does get pretty toxic over there but it's the quickest, most efficient way to share the streaming, voting, sales data and goals if that's what you're into. I try to just only follow a small number of ot7 army, get the updates and the playlists and leave.

[@paimonspie8913]

I can assure you that those are just loud fans not the core fandom, its sad that thats what they're becoming tho

[@RenwanSorahan]

core fandom will encourage you to study. do not get swayed by some fans who say otherwise.

[@tentitoo]

I guess I don't consider myself part of the core fandom and honestly these past couple of years have been harsh as an army. As a grown adult with a job and responsibilities (which I'm certain a lot of us are) I don't have the time to engage in the fandom the same way I had during the pandemic and going on social media makes me feel guilty for it. There's always someone telling me how I'm not streaming enough, how not voting everyday using 10 different emails means I don't love them enough and then there's all the antis always spewing bs plus all the searing campaigns. I really want to be there for them but I genuinely don't have time and mentally I can't stand being on the k-pop side of social media

[@ravensdiadem8517]

As long you love and enjoy their music it's all good💜 I would consider myself a core ARMY and I agree that constant scolding and being told "you are not doing enough" will push people even further away....so enjoy BTS music as an escape from your busy life💜 and love them and do what is possible for you💜 We all grew up with them, so it's natural that we are also older with more responsibilities...just trust them and support them wholeheartedly 💜 That's enough as an ARMY

[@carolinemcgregor9825]

You can only do what you can do. I saw a message from an Army the other day saying she'd been crying because Jin's streams weren't high enough. That isn't how it should be, it should be fun and positive. I think Jin would be heartbroken if he thought his music was actually stressing people out.

[@AJP.OT7]

I am sorry you feel that way and have experienced that. I sometimes do to. Do what you can do and that is all the matters. Block out the ppl saying that stuff. 🫂💜

[@rainwashes8]

Thank you for your honesty! Moving forward, I hope we can create a more calm and positive environment for army.

[@sisiVsisi]

💜🫶🎶

[@Riviere8281]

I'm part of the core ARMY and part of ARMY twitter and I do agree with you. Lately a lot of negatives comments that only caused the killing of our the mood and feeling miserable and being a fan have to be happiness

[@NamHar7n]

Thank you for all you do! 💜

[@Musalyer]

I agree it’s so unfair we can’t even enjoy bts properly everything annoying haters can’t catch a break always at our necks for doing something they’re also doing with their favs. It’s not fair we cant enjoy bts peacefully

[@rainwashes8]

Thank you for your hard work and for staying with us! I hope you get enough rest.

[@noonegud]

FR, I feel so off when I see something negative against BTS, that shits clicks into my mind eventhough IK that what they are saying, whatever so called opinion they are giving is not going to change the FACT, that BTS have the BEST Music out their, THEIR song QUALITY is so fcking immense ans beautiful, them Sexualizing them, talking bad upon their gender and saying shitty wrong things because of their idea of toxic Masculinity and shits is NOT FCKING going to CHANGE THE FACT THAT BTS ARE THE REAL MEN. it's not changing anything. (These are out of K-pop negativity which haunts me at times knowing how shitty and negative fckers can be.) It annoys me how they haven't ever heard ANYTHING of BTS's music, have no knowledge about BTS, have never explored them yet have the audacity to BARK, Bitchy fckers. Then these SHITTY K-pop Stans, Ugh!!!!

[@xi5273]

This is a perfect explanation on why being on the fandom is so exhausting right now. For example, on twitter the majority of big accounts are casual "armys" (if they can be called that) that just put full energy on hating other groups, giving all the spotlight to antis and not supporting bts at all, it's like they just use them as an excuse to be nasty in general. And your point makes so much sense because the hateful "armys" are the ones that take the spotlight so it means that they are a bigger quantity of people in the fandom unfortunately. I had to quit tik tok and twitter because of how bad and stressful it is. Now I'm just on KZbin and Reddit waiting for the boys to come back.

[@kristie9144]

Anyone hating on other fandoms is not ARMY. They can have all the 7s in their names they want but they are not upholding the values of the group or the fandom.

[@TooLittleInfo]

@@kristie9144 They will call you a cupcake for that as if being a good person is a slur. They openly say "bangtan are nice people, but I'm not" and they're proud of it

[@Cat-v1s]

@@xi5273 that doesn't sound very "casual" if they are spending so much time and energy doing that.. That sounds very invested actually.. And not in actually being Army! I've not come across an account like that thankfully, maybe cuz I've tried to be careful on twitter. They don't sound line they represent Army at all

[@penelopepitstock]

@@Cat-v1sI’ve seen a few of these and they capture a lot of baby ARMY and ppl who are clearly young and impressionable. It just goes against my values so I don’t interact with them and I’ve blocked a few.

[@someonethereQ]

⁠@@TooLittleInfo you do realise being a cupcake army is a real thing that those crazies on twt are the ones keeping kpop fans in check when they decide to be nasty. personally im grateful to the mentally sturdy people in the fandom capable of clocking BTS haters 24/7 on the bird app (if you can even call it that anymore). the fandom isn't sunshine and rainbows because the people outside this fandom will hate us- whether we are nice or not. shouldn't we be grateful to those who will put aside kindness and suppress those who talk trash about the members? just a thought 🤷‍♂️

[@salimaramlakan3252]

Much needed boracity! The 🐦 app is a mess....believe and trust BTS💜

[@rmy2202]

Well, i believe after a long long time.. We are getting our groove back.. We responded so beautifully and positively on threat writhes put up against SUGA infront of the hybe building.. We made sure that SUGA knows how much we love him and he needs to focus his energy on us and our love and faith in him.. Secondly, you should see the recent comments on jin video, they all are so exciting and positive, everyone is just pushing other to stream one more time.. We gotta keep this going.. Lets understand when to make noise and when to ignore.. Thanks bora..

[@Christina-yc4dn]

Agree 💯

[@penelopepitstock]

👏👏👏💜

[@lei_ApoBangpo]

I agree with this, I found BTS when I was down. I became happier and stronger when I started following them with everything. The hate they're getting affects every Armys that knows what is happening and it is tiring, for real. I'm a Casual Army and the reason I followed the boys is because they are fun individuals. I can choose what to focus on, and where to put my energy - BTS. With that, I am able to get rid of the negativity and help the fandom with all that I can to support the boys. I choose to love BTS forever and no one can tell me to stop. Can't wait for 2025! BTS are Fun and so are Armys! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@maryr1905]

You are right - BTS are not going to lose their fun side as Jin is showing and 2025 is going to be amazing. And I'm sure J-Hope is also cooking up some fun for us while we wait.

[@lei_ApoBangpo]

@@maryr1905 I'm really excited about everything they have been preparing for us. 😃💜

[@dontmentionme-x4s]

I also want to be a part of core fandom, but this year has been too harsh for me. However, I still support them as far as I can. 😊I believe in BTS. Hold yourself guys. Don't be stressed. ARMY will always be there for you BTS 💜💜

[@Musalyer]

Yh it sucks we’ve been targeted since the beginning and it won’t stop but all I know is that their always threaten a group like them has a loyal fandom despite all the hate campaigns and distractions we’re still here. We are resilient just like bts and many envy that

[@dashydefiance]

I agree, and I feel like this has 2 other negative consequences. One, the core fandom itself becomes the only ones being screamed at and feeling the negative emotions as the casual fans are pushed away. This creates further negative energy that we all get stuck in. Secondly, I’m also worried for the fudge and the 2025 comeback as I hear analog of sentiment about how army’s that weren’t there during these hard times should not be welcomed back. I don’t like this way of thinking when it comes to army’s tuning out the negative noise right now and not being active, but also when it comes to army’s who went stopped supporting in 2022. These people shouldn’t be punished for prioritizing their mental health and happiness and should be welcomed back not criticised. I’m scared that when the 2025 comeback comes around there will be a split in the core fandom who stayed and feels betrayed and the core fandom who went on haitus that will not want to come back because of the backlash they’ll recieve. I don’t want any negative energy like that effecting the 2025 comeback. So any army reading this, please don’t make anyone feel bad for the amount of support they give, we all do what we physically and mentally can and in the end we’re all in this for the same reasons, loving bts! 💜

[@rmy2202]

Agree 100 percent

[@penelopepitstock]

This 👏👏👏💜

[@Masha-ew5qe]

honestly, there's so much negativity that I can't handle it sometimes. But I realize how important it is to be louder and how important it is for me to support them. I want us to be louder, I want the Jin album to be loud. Really looking forward to 2025 💔

[@rainwashes8]

I wish the positivity was louder than all the hate and the noise. So thank you for leaving this kind of honest comment. You said what a lot of us have been thinking. It’s important to remind each other that behind each account we engage with is an actual human being.

[@Masha-ew5qe]

@@rainwashes8 thank you so much for the reply 🥺 yes let's make positivity louder than anything else 💜

[@shockofthenew]

I really want us to gather ourselves together, get our mindset sorted and get organised before the full reunion. There are so many good things about ARMY, and we've done amazing things in the past. The way we work best is when we concentrate on BTS, on the music, on the joy of it all, when we motivate each other, have fun together, and Block. Out. The. Haters. BTS have always had major hate against them ever since they started succeeding, and as a fandom we've managed to survive through all of it by staying organised, disciplined, focused and most of all calm. But in recent years we've lost focus. It makes sense, and I don't think we should blame ourselves or each other - here are some reasons: ➡ BTS have been on hiatus for years at this point, their latest regular album was 4 years ago. ➡ Solo era has brought out solo stans, who create needless drama. ➡ Since BTS have been in the military, their enemies in the industry have taken the opportunity to attack and drag them constantly, knowing they can't defend themselves. ➡ Social media has changed. Twitter used to be where everything was organised, but many people left since Musk took over, and the whole platform became much more toxic. ➡ A large amount of new fans arrived in the last few years, outnumbering older fans. That's not a bad thing obviously! But it was kind of like a wave that washed over our previous structures. Everything changed very quickly, and we've struggled to restructure since then. I feel like misinformation has been much harder to control in recent years, simply because a large portion of the fandom don't have a very long history with the group, so don't have the deep background knowledge that helps protect against false narratives. It's also natural for newer fans to be easily upset and overwhelmed by hate, and therefore get drawn into fighting. (To be clear baby ARMY are awesome, and I'm generalising here. This is just about fandom proportions changing, and us struggling to catch up!) So how can we improve? I'm not sure I have all the answers.... I'll ask some questions: ➡ Where should our main base of organisation be? Is twitter really the right place any more? ➡ How can we become more unified in our values, goals and sense of purpose? ➡ How can we have a focused, clear, well thought-out response to 'scandals', and make sure our words won't be used against us or against BTS? And how can we spread the word about what's the right thing to do? How do we make a clear, organised structure for information to be fact-checked and plans to be spread, so it's very easy for casual ARMY to do some simple things to help? ➡ How can we get the message out that we always need to pause, research carefully, and wait for confirmation before reacting to anything? It's ok to say "I don't know if that's true. We don't have enough information yet. We need to wait until we have confirmation." ➡ How can we work on staying calm and focused? How do we reach ARMY who are currently caught up in drama, scandals and fanwars, and show them how to take a step back, de-escalate, block, ignore etc. How can we remind people that 99% of the time, engaging with drama makes it worse? ➡ How do we bring all of this back to Bangtan. Back to their music, their message, their values, their goals, their legacy. We need to always be behaving in a way they'd be proud of. ➡ How can we bring the fun back to things, and focus on motivating each other rather than fighting each other? How do we make ARMY a place where people WANT to spend time, somewhere that feels uplifting? Somewhere that keeps us in touch with the reason we're all here: BTS.

[@maryr1905]

Great questions! Even though I'm not "core ARMY" and am relatively new, this is the type of discussion that the core and more than casual ARMYs need to be having. It is a great time to have these conversations.

[@abbiec06]

I agree! It’s so important to all be on the same page right now. All the noise is so loud, but just being unified as one big group of Army will speak volumes

[@uchihasrkive]

we just have 8 more months to Endure no matter whether you are Casual ARMYS and or in the core fandom, just enjoy whatever side of BTS's content in which ever way you like from their music, to variety shows, movies, etc but just be loud about the support no matter what you do, that's all I'll say because we are about reach the 12th anniversary in just 8 months, we can't afford to fall now. Apobangpo to all the old and new ARMYS, I hope that in 2025 we will get back the momentum we once had after our 7 men return together again

[@chelsbeaupeep]

3:58 ...you could say ARMY were...louder than bombs 💣 (⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)

[@jeannytrew5208]

Perfect. Think you! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@YpykXau]

I’m person who silently followed guides, goals and try to steam properly. But I’m not active commenting or writing post on social media. I just can’t. I hope I’m still helping BTS.

[@o0bev0o]

You are!

[@jkksmuse]

Very much! Your streams are the best help we need at the moment

[@penelopepitstock]

You are 💜

[@leodragon77]

This video made me feel better. I’m a casual ARMY, and I read a comment from someone who was lamenting that apparently we were weren’t voting for Jin’s song “Happy” on mnet, and we weren’t showing him the support that the other members got. This really upset me because I don’t know how to vote for those things, and I wondered how big a deal it was. I love the song, and I’m really looking forward to his album. But do I have to vote for everything to be called ARMY? I agree, positivity is going to get more results. I always thought it was BTS and ARMY’s strength. I loved what ARMY did for Min Yoongi. Let’s do more of that!

[@penelopepitstock]

Same. I believe that we are just as much ARMY. We love them, we listen to their music and that’s what a real fan is as far as I’m concerned.

[@sarahingreen9734]

I feel so seen😭 thank you! I feel so sad and angry and tired and I don't even feel like being online. It's been so hard! But you are right! We should get happy again! We should push the casual Army to be happy!

[@btsarmyforever1992]

This needs to be watched by all armys.

[@ami0613]

I don't categorize myself as any type of ARMY, I am just ARMY. For me, that means I stream, vote, buy, fight for BTS tickets and Merch drops, learn fanchants and do them proudly, laugh with them, cry with them, stand up for them, praise and cheer for them. I don't view any of it as work or exhausting because they are just a group/people I genuinely love and that's how I show up for people I love. Their music and content brings/brought so much healing and happiness into my life and there's no way I will not show up for them to show my utmost appreciation, love, and gratitude for everything they do and have done for me as an ARMY 💜

[@preciousvictoria1834]

We should not be more invested in the company drama more than the music a member is releasing. I beg of all armies stop discussing the company drama as if you are one of the shareholders the fandom is becoming unbearable i have to mute new words on my timeline everyday. The excitement of a long awaited member comeback is not in the fandom. The members around are trying their absolute best to make sure we don't feel abandoned nd sad abt all the drama going frm one show to another we should also try our absolute best by giving them the support they deserve. If y'all continue like this you would just be making yourself sad for unknown reasons in this happy era

[@ravensdiadem8517]

Seriously.....the company can take care of itself.....we should enjoy BTS music and content.....we need to enjoy Happy by Jin❤

[@Musalyer]

Exactly we are here for bts and their music and content. I find that many new armies are easily distracted and proving haters right about the hyung line

[@Pianoluv-zz7tt]

Well said

[@bloopa7011]

There is a reason why we have to pay attention to this company drama. this company drama at the end of the day is a part of the bigger movement to discredit bts and their legacy. Bts built hybe i dont think you understand how insane kpop fandoms and the big powers are behind s. Korea will attack everything because it is bts adjacenent. Attacks on other hybe groups too is the same thing. There is a reason armys are getting involved when one of the main perpretrators mhj litetally admitted multiple times to wanting bts' downfall. By discrediting hybe it leads the s.korean gp to think all bts achievements and fame are lies just as stupidly as they believe everything else. The hybe groups are untalented agenda affects bts too Boracity didny mention it but a reason we need to pay attention is the importance of getting back at the kpop comminity and calling out their lies and hypocrisy. This is sadly so important too. If you are exhausted mute your words dont participate but dont act like armys are paying attention to company drama is to play make pretend of being shareholders because thats never what it was about. We can never ignore it but yeah we do need to be more excited about music and releases like before. I agree

[@preciousvictoria1834]

@@bloopa7011 Am not going jeopardize the comeback of a member to save the company. I stan the artist not the company. If we talk abt mjh nd the company more than the comeback of a member there is obviously something wrong with the fandom. The reason I had to mute words was because the drama was overshadowing a member's ablum which is not normal.

[@matura0maimai]

Good video! I agree with most of what is said here. That said, I would say there is a fandom in between casual and core. There are fans who stream as much as their life allows (which may not be considered “properly” because there is only so many hours in a day), supports all the members, vote when they don’t have to go through dozens of steps, and follows both the good and bad news and still choose to be here. Just my thoughts though 😊

[@flyushkifly]

Agreed that there are other levels. What about the ones who would take a bullet for any one of the members, but have no time or mental energy to stream, keep up with voting, and follow all the news? 😅 I like ARMY job description titles like ARMY Theorist, Analyst, Recruiter, Archivist, Activist, Statistician, Academic, Legal, Shooter, and Investigator more than the idea of a "core" ARMY who do all the public interactions stuff. I would call them Public Relations and ARMY Defense, instead, and agree there might be only a few thousand. I'm a Recruiter and Sociologist ARMY, and consider myself as "core" as other intense fans who are the loudest. I'm a generalist who disseminates information, but I'm not the first line of defense. And there are millions of us. I think there is a lot of nuance here, and maybe instead of classifying inner circles, there should be more recruitment into the Public Relations, Shooter, Defense, and Legal departments.😂

[@_taemyhope219]

The Queen has spilled the facts again 👏👏💜

[@purine1400]

a thought as a casual army. scandals aside. my theory for why streaming isnt what it used to be: the fandom’s individual music taste no longer converges at bts now that the members are releasing solo music. casual armys at core is here for music. thats why most have strayed in terms of streaming. its not that they dont like a certain member, they simply may not enjoy the type of music that member releases. the songs fall more quicker out of rotation. couple that with the scandals and the fandom climate, theres a reason some casual armys are reluctant to engage in the same way as before. antagonizing those casual armys is not the way to go either. the fandom needs to have more music related events. listening parties are fun. if the fandom is more united and positive in terms of music and are organizing with music in mind, even casual armys that may not enjoy a particular release purely out of taste, may still engage in supportive fandom activity because. well. its fun.

[@nightwalkers-o7_9]

Please share this video everywhere you can !!!! CORE ARMYS AND CAUSAL ARMYS need to see this ...

[@ElisabethMiezi]

Let's keep supporting Bangtan7 till they are united again. This is the time they need us more ARMY. Let's do it for our boys. ARMY fighting! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

[@Tae_Vear7]

I was so for sure that you are or any Army is going to make a video called ‘BTS ARMY EMERGENCY’. Or maybe I was just thinking, Thank You so much for putting something this forward.

[@Lee-Ray7-h4i]

My Dear All ARMY!! Trust BTS! believe in only BTS! Period. APOBANGPO 💜💜 Thank you Boracity! you are amazing! greeting from S. Korea

[@Hajimaaaa613]

My strategy has been stay informed ( mainly through HYBE BOY's channel) but not engage in the negativity.Focus on BTS and BTS only theres no point in fighting with others online and like you said participate in spreading positivity when you can. It can be exhausting to see all the negative comments so if you can add two positive comments for every negative comment you see maybe then we can begin to drown out the loud hate.

[@caitlink6846]

Given these definitions, I do think there's armys between Core and Casual, like myself. There are many armys who support the efforts of the Core, stream correctly, vote as much as they can, donate to events and projects when they can, try to keep up to date with happenings, but aren't the ones organizing, mobilizing, or creating content. IMO those you define as core are more Foundational, but those who support the foundation can be considered core and I'd say there's a lot more than just a couple thousand of those people. Just my thoughts. Also, I think we need to find a balance between paying attention and ignoring things. We need to choose which battles to fight and which to just let die because we physically cannot fight everything. It shouldn't be about choosing 1 or 2, but finding an option 3 that involves being aware but choosing to ignore some things that aren't worth our time to fight.

[@Hatter5150]

Agree with you on there being an Army btwn core and casual. As a baby army, this is the place I strive for. And absolutely we need to pick our battles!

[@miramoon6911]

I agree with this!! I wish I could like it more than once. We should pick the' battles' that are currently causing the most damage or have the loudest voice and once the biggest fall you know the rest will scatter and be easier to handle. I personally think that (besides the negative aspect) the problem is that we are pulled too many ways and can't really concentrate with all the voices and opinions. For myself I have chosen 1 or 2 'core' ARMYs that I try to help with their 'missions' be it reporting or reposting, etc. This allows me to put strong energy into a couple things and I'm not as drained mentally trying to juggle too many voices/opinions. I have also listened to IBT a lot this past week and it has helped a lot 💜💜

[@michellem6826]

Thanks so much for your thoughts. I find your thoughts jump start my thoughts. I am not a core ARMY but I don’t think I fall into the causal ARMY. Maybe a hybrid. I try to do as much as I can, but the constant stream more, vote more, comment more, … more, more, more … gets to be too much at times and I have to take a break. I actually started doing what you suggested and try to make funny, thoughtful or moving comments when the demands are getting so crazy. We need to be loud, but we need to enjoy the music. You can point out that the Rapline is getting less streams and be demanding or thank the people that are streaming and encourage and explain in bit sized pieces to others that may not understand. Promote, cheer, engage and have fun. We can work as a team with different goals. Please don’t bash each other.

[@celestial5460]

Being a core ARMY used to be so rewarding and fun. I remember how much we worked to make BTS successful and how happy we were every time our efforts paid off. In 2017 I was still an university student and despite everything I spent several hours every day just to vote for BTS' first BBMAs nomination. We were so afraid of Beliebers (😂) but our victory felt SO GOOD! Twitter community, while always toxic, used to be like our home. After BTS' enlistment a lot of our fanbases went on hiatus, but I hope they'll return together with BTS. I want to thank all our core ARMYs who stayed to support the boys, all our casual ARMYs for being a huge help and all our baby ARMYs for choosing to support BTS in these tough times. It may not look as fun as it was in the past, but I'm sure our fandom will heal after BTS return. APOBANGPO 💜

[@jaxonrice9835]

Boracity keep up the amazing videos!! borahae 💜💜💜

[@adewoyinaderonke6277]

To be honest, 2024 as a bts fans has been very draining, and i hope the Army's stay strong 💪 This, too, shall pass

[@ravensdiadem8517]

Thank you for this video!! This is the time when ARMYs need to show support in HUGE numbers! Let's make Jin's album release a BIG success!

[@hope7754]

you so right, thank you for the video!! i just think core army are tired... like the most part of bts support is lying on them -- streaming, voting, spreading the info, projects... while the others can sleep peacefully and watch only happy videos, core army need to know and organize everything to help bts stay on the level they are. i wish more casual army would follow their path and start to be a bit more responsible and interested in the internal kitchen of the fandom and our artists

[@kookfeelz]

I totally get what you mean but you have to agree with the point that there has been a huge difference in army twt ( the core of the fandom ) from early 2023 to this year, the smear campaigns feel louder bcs the support is not as loud as it used to be, army twt was always active making the environment fun while still having beefs with the antis, but now half of the people have either left the twt or are on hiatus ever since the 4 members left, and i don't think its becoming as active until next year, so we will need to make through these 7-8months smh

[@boracitymagazine]

i don't disagree with anything you've wrote! like i said at 7:21 and throughtout the video, the fandom is different now, a lot of armys are on hiatus and we just need to make it through!

[@snarfEmu]

I don't think twt should be relied on as the home of the "core" fandom when we can see it slowly sinking. It's really sad, but we've established a great informative and positive ARMY community on bluesky that is worth checking out. If we don't diversity, when twt finally goes down it'll take all of our hard work and outreach with it.

[@kookfeelz]

@@snarfEmuI agree with you, its always better to have communities across all the social media platforms, its just sad how twt has turned into when it was the easiest source to get updates and information, I'll check out blue sky though!

[@Wittylizz]

Totally agree! Personally I’d love to do more and be a “core” ARMY, but I have a demanding job and two small kids. It’s overwhelming so I do the little I can and focus on enjoying BTS. I think a lot of “casual” ARMY are in the same boat, our lives are stressful enough and even if the “core” fans aren’t being toxic or negative, often there’s just soo much they want us to do or focus on that it starts to feel like a chore and not just enjoying BTS. I loved seen IG reels of ARMY being happy, supporting the guys and putting up the middle finger to those flowers in front of the building lol 😂 we need more of that for sure!! 💜💜💜

[@christinamarie9377]

this is such a good video once again bora! I think we have all seen this. the smear campaigns are so hard to see and decide how to handle them but what is also frustrating is casual fans and kpoppies jumping in to believe everything. so you can fall into endless traps of trying to explain it and defend them (and some army are super good at this and making really good videos on the facts) but it can get really emotionally heated and turn to solo rhetoric or people ganging up in bad faith just to laugh at the people who are actually invested...unfortunately i believe that is what mhj wanted, for fanbases to get swept up in spending energy on controversy and burning out or becoming bitter so that those people are easier to draw away from hybe and bts when they come back. I think the hate campaigns greatly underestimate how compelling our guys are and how wise, but they are sure trying to apply that pressure on all of us and it is coming from powerful people too so it can seem more 'legit.'. another factor is the timing bc at the same time we are seeing so much upheaval in the world and for US charts there is a ton of distraction and extra big world issues and the election that add to all the stress and our attention is just split. and on top of that other fandoms and labels are using so much payola and the streaming rules are purposefully filtering and turning against us bc they are pretty corrupt and getting more and more openly so...I don't believe any of this will stop ARMY and BTS and i believe far fewer people are actually leaving than it seems like from numbers/social media, it's just that the optics are hard to take when we have those days of breaking records to compare it to so it causes a kind of panic on top of an already precarious time. the boys getting older and being in the military is definitely a time when most fandoms start drifting away, and there are people trying to push that on bts and push the impression of it and it is a very well planned out attack made to appear organic, but if we take a deep breath and focus on the positives, we are actually weathering this so well. we have seven artists we have supported in their absence and one fandom is supporting so so so much music through all of this time and even with everything against us their releases and projects are still the talk of the world. when they come back i do believe that their presence together and the experiences all of us have together is so magical that we can build our own little worldwide island again. Jin has already started it with run jin and happy and i'll be there, and ultimately while we will continue to fight for justice for them and show our support, we may for our own collective health need to also recognize that every song won't top the song before it and that we are putting unrealistic pressures on placement on charts that are rigged in some ways against us. this has always been the case and sometimes we crack it or some songs connect for high charting in spite of those hurtles but i think in our frustration we need to remember that a lot of what seems like people not streaming is actually a combination of the algorithmic forces against us and the timing of releases and different styles of songs resonating with different sections of the fandom and gp differently...it doesn't mean we 'love' some members differently, we really don't need to go that far emotionally and give charts so much credit in our fandom. ARMY loved bts way before the charts and brought them there with that love, and will continue to love them even if the charts block them totally out...i truly believe that while they may lose some people who just follow the trends, this community will always be here for them and each other and become more beautiful and triumphant in other ways as we try to grow old together. this is a hard time for so many reasons and we don't want toxic positivity either, we just have to stay through it. draw the map again and again. experience the pain and the joy both together. right now is pain and this video is a good reminder that we should do our best to not add to it amongst ourselves when there is already enough outside forces against us. we don't need to let them in too much. borahae!

[@a_k_u_]

I just wanna say - "let's stay strong Armys and support BTS forever" 💜APOBANGPO💜 I like this channel so much, you are such a wise person/Army💜

[@elainesalvador7280]

Thanks you being a not conforming to the noise within the K-POP community space and taking a deeper dive into the issue. It’s refreshing to have a mature community to turn for well researched information instead of regurgitating information.

[@Miiemes]

THANK YOU. IT IS SO TIRING TO CONSTANTLY BE MADE TO FEEL BAD BECAUSE I DONT STREAM ENOUGH OR BECAUSE SOME NUMBERS ARE UNEVEN. I love all the members and always support them but those negative posts make me feel shittier about it instead of their music bringing me happiness. Love to all army

[@rainwashes8]

THIS! Let’s reduce the blaming and be kinder and more encouraging to each other!

[@rainwashes8]

Also, i do hope the comment section under MVs would be filled with more appreciation, insight, and analyses about their music and their art rather than comments about streaming and view counts.

[@Cloud-boi-zu6pv]

Let’s just be positive and support bts , love bts and stay strong and louder. And just enjoy thire songs , videos , etc. etc. and if anyone say anything , just be louder to them by ourselves. I once was also like this expecting others to be core army but I learned it earlier during hiatus and understood , I just have to support them how I want and love them how I want and be louder about it. And spread positivity.

[@Hajimaaaa613]

I also think its important to point out that with the sheer amount of music releases we've had this year I think alot of ARMYs are experiencing burnout when it comes to streaming.

[@tjohannam]

True, it feels like BTS never really left. Lol. Especially since they started their solo endeavors, the content has increased seven-fold. I still enjoy it, but we also need time to really digest all the content and music. Currently, I enjoy that we have only one "Happy" song from Jin. It gives me time to really bask in the happiness of that song without rushing to the next release.

[@seemats3493]

Yeah true.... We got many albums and many shows also many pre recordings. And it is hard to focus on everything.... Once new song released the concentration will be on that song and older song will decrease. And one thing is their schedules don't overlap. Like not even pre recordings. But definitely armys didn't expect this much in chapter 2. I feel like BTS said they will take rest. But in reality none of them actually didn't rest. All 7 of them worked hard for us. I think BTS is the only exception who worked hard even in rest period. Not blaming them. It is good to have new songa

[@sharonlahaye5803]

I guess I would be considered casual ARMY although I have followed them very closely since early 2018 (and could pass most ARMY tests). However, I don’t stream. I don’t vote. I don’t buy merch. I only got into the BU casually. Yet I love BTS wholeheartedly and although I will never leave them, I have been saddened by the shippers and toxic solo stans infiltrating the fandom, the positive response for MHJ in SK, the never-ending smear campaign of Suga,, and just the disrespect and nastiness on social media. I am older ARMY and have neither the time or know how to do many of the things that core ARMY can do. I also do not have anyone to share my love of BTS with. So Thank you Boracity for acknowledging us and know the majority of us love BTS as much as the core fandom.

[@Bre4458]

A lot of great thoughts in here. By your definition I guess I'm a 'casual' army, but I really don't enjoy the term. Since I wouldn't call my love and open support for them casual. I'm curious by this thought process what someone I think of as casual is to a 'core' army, a non-fan? Or just that they 'aren't army'. I think the reason a lot of 'casual' fans, such as I, shy away from wanting to do more is because when we get near some people who consider themselves OG/core/veteran army, there's always a feeling of condescension because we 'don't understand' the way they felt while supporting them. So I do want to double down on the parting message, to just spread relentless positivity and kindness to each other. Also, that even if someone isn't 'core' army with a huge following online, it doesn't mean that we as 'casual' fans don't make a difference while supporting in a way that's manageable for each of our own lifestyles. In summation 😅 I wish there was another in-between tier to signify that there are armys who DO try as much as they can, but aren't allowed in the cool 'core' kids club. I'm not a fan of being called a casual army 😂 💜 I'm glad though that this video was made, we do need to keep working together and to make sure we are as active and loud as we can be. I will strive to do better as an army 💜

[@joymartin8125]

I agree. I was also a bit offended being referred to as a “casual” army by that definition. My wallet and time definitely says otherwise. 😅 I mean I know that she talked about how both groups are important and needed but it still made me feel like I’m “not doing enough” to support the guys.

[@Lala-pk7ez]

Do you like ARMY Reserve? That’s what the part-time/on call trained military where I live are called. They have an ordinary day-job, but get called up to provide extra manpower in a crisis.

[@Cat-v1s]

I agree with this. I'm a much more casual Army and in fact didn't keep up with the group for a couple of years due to personal events, but starting to get back into them now, especially since Jin's return. I feel I am a super casual Army who is slowly getting more involved, and I see other Army out there who are a lot more involved, but based on this video might not be considered "Core". I think there is definitely a group/layer of Army in between casual and Core.

[@supersarcasm8303]

I don't think the term 'casual ARMY' was ment to be negative in any way. It was just a way to explain the situation. And of course every single casual ARMY is very important and valuable for the fandom

[@Bre4458]

@joymartin8125 yea I forgot that when I first entered the Fandom that I was hesitant to call myself army cause I hadn't felt like I was 'committed' enough or past a knowledge threshold, and this must take that into consideration. That threshold. So a casual music listener isn't quite army yet, and then once you pass that threshold I had felt those years ago, that must be when you become a 'casual army' in this context. I know no harm was meant by the term, glad you felt similar to me 💜

[@Illi_Amperd]

I believe that many times we forget that we are dealing with people. People who daily have to fight their own battles, who have their own problems and who really do not want to add more stress to their lives. Not everyone reacts equally to the same situations, some people can live with many frictions in their life, but for others it is more complicated, and you should be empathetic and not get angry about it. I have seen that there are people on X who get annoyed because you don't do the stream in the way they do it (I'm referring to the stream hours, not the way of doing it), and many try to explain that it's because they have many responsibilities in their life. And despite that, they attack, arguing that they also have many responsibilities and still do stream all day. I speak as someone who tries not to get involved much in these conversations because you end up being canceled. Personally, I am someone who streams on 4 platforms, and I organize myself to support them as much as possible. But I have also been someone who has gone through moments so overwhelming in my life that all I wanted was to rest from everything and move away. Especially when you enter X and only see chaos and discord. Even though we love the boys, we cannot forget that they are musicians, and what we consume from them is music, which is a stimulus. There are people who live overstimulated, and sometimes they just need a break. You cannot attack people for their way of facing situations. You cannot combat uncertainty and stress with attacks; empathy is the best response in those moments. If someone tells you that they try to do their best, then give value to their efforts. You don't know what things that person may be going through or their way of dealing with life situations. Not everyone can act in the same way. I have always seen that they usually speak aggressively, especially on X. Which doesn't help much, because on that social network are what Boracity would call the "ARMY central", there are the majority of ARMYs who support voting, streaming, campaigns, and publicity. So you are attacking and demoralizing the people who ARE supporting. Instead of spending your energy shouting and damaging the good energy, you should try to promote among casual ARMYs on networks like Instagram and TikTok. But promote in a way that makes them feel attracted and comfortable, not with scolding. Put it into perspective, imagine interacting with these people in real life and speaking to them in that way; no one is motivated by mistreatment or aggressive words. Thanks to Boracity for touching on this subject. I think these are moments when we must organize our priorities in the fandom and create strategies that allow us to reach next June. We must be smarter than those behind the discredit and hate campaigns. Because currently, all these feelings of resentment and division are precisely what these campaigns are looking for. We must stop and remember why we are here and gather and protect ourselves among the ARMYs who remain firm and enduring. If we don't protect ourselves among ourselves, no one else will.

[@tialands4283]

I think that this is why Jin is doing SOOO much content to help to, in a way, focus ARMY. Wayyy to many things are happening.

[@unknown_person978]

5:54 very true I had joined the bts fandom because of the music and their famliy like bond When i tell you i was NOT ready for all the stuff happening now

[@kristinapetronyte3812]

Bora city is always the voice of reason! There’s definitely a lot of bitter army out there 😢 but I’m still super happy to be a part or the bora community and always be here supporting the guys

[@DarknWild13]

The only thing that makes me wanna leave this fandom is literally “Army" itself. Like, bukan outsiders, bukan kpopies, not even antis-it’s our own people. More than half of this fandom has gone completely off the rails. I’m so beyond tired of the drama and nonsense. Like, udah nggak cukup sighing doang, sekarang udah sampai full eye roll plus internal cussing di kepala.

[@PolarNight_0613]

Yeah, me too. I really don’t get army’s whole superiority complex and I seriously can't stand it. They’re straight up wild...so toxic, acting like they’re better than everyone else. It’s ridiculous. I'm saying this as a 2017 ARMY who turned casual around 2019/2020 because I was beyond done. The fandom just became too much to handle. Honestly, I feel like 2017-2019 was the golden era for BTS and ARMY. After that? This place turned into a total toxic dump, full of negativity.

[@DarknWild13]

​​@@PolarNight_0613 I don’t know why, but it feels like back in 2017-2019, sure, Army could be a bit toxic, especially toward antis or haters, but at least they had heart, some pride, respect, even a bit of class, you know? They moved smart, with some dignity. It's hard to explain, but that’s just how it felt. Being an army back then actually came with a sense of pride, like, "Yeah, I’m Army," and Army ≠ just any K-pop fans. But now? 😐🤐

[@praleen]

I love that u took the time to make this video because i think both the casual and the core armies needed to hear this to understand each other, I became an army in 2021 and was a casual army as u said and have now since a month ago started my journey to became a core army, So i understood both sides when u talked about it today and even though I'm new i felt the pain of both sides. Thankyou so much for making this and reassuring us. Let's unite and make bts proud army

[@evasomething4116]

Thank you for this video - for cutting through all the noise these past months. I am glad that I am a core army based on your definition. I have been seeing more negative posts on Army twt and when combined with external smear campaigns, it can feel overwhelming. In the end, we are all connected by our love for BTS and their music, and we need to trust them like they asked us to. 💜

[@Nollugs5111]

To still my head and my mind I plug into my BTS playlist and listen to their music to soothe myself from all the craziness 😊 cannot wait for 2025 praying all goes well

[@aragona199]

TURN UP THE MUSIC. Boracity, thank you SO MUCH for not only sharing your sentiments but also giving a concrete thing for this ARMY to do with all her heart.

[@jddbaca]

Oh my gosh. As a (mostly) core army with a casual army daughter, this rings so true. I am hoping everyone holds true to No Nugu November so we can bring back the positivity! Also, I think casual army CAN be mobilized when it really matters-such as the hate campaign against Yoongi. But I think that is when the core needs to think about what they hype. You have such great suggestions and I love your videos!

[@NamHar7n]

Yes! I followed what Core Army suggested and did my best to support Yoongi. It was a wonderful empowering experience. Thank you!

[@NamHar7n]

Can you explain No Nugu?

[@jddbaca]

@ It means that during November people do not give insignificant people a voice-eg stop responding to haters and nonsense. Let them sound off in their own vacuum. Let’s be positive and celebrate BTS.

[@totallyinsane1325]

Tysm for this. I think i am a casual army who also votes and streams and was so tired of armys these days continuously blaming each other for everything. We as a fandom really needed this.

[@namjoonkim_613]

Thank you, Boracity! Take care of yourself for the day BTS all come back with us, ARMY! Love you all!

[@simple__k-lover]

I've been keeping all that to myself,and you finally explained. Kpopies attack me whenever I want to correct their mistakes and defend bts.

[@KootchLB]

Thank you for your thoughts, Bora. Two of my friends were in Korea on a tour (of members' hometowns!) and were in Seoul at the time of the counter-protest at Hybe. Their group joined the other ARMY in front of the building and they posted a video on FB showing them leading the BTS fanchant. You are right, we have to express our love loudly and immediately when the haters stage idiocy like this. The only reason their hateful action was neutralised was because ARMY almost immediately swarmed them with their love for BTS. I love BTS and by your definition I am casual ARMY. I pre-ordered Jin's album (full set) on 15 Oct, as soon as pre-ordering was available. I play BTS music and watch BTS content every day. But here's the thing - I get turned off when I see some ARMY haranguing other ARMY to keep streaming because "the numbers are low" or scolding because we are not streaming enough. Jin has said "if ARMY is happy, then I'm happy." He never said "I will only be happy with a billion streams on Spotify". I am happy when listening to and viewing BTS content; and engaging with reactors and other ARMY who enjoy BTS content. But whenever I see those scolding, nagging exhortations, I click on the "Don't recommend this channel button". I love BTS. Do not tell me that I do not love them enough. So thank you for shining a light on this issue, Bora. Look forward to Happy, my fellow ARMYs! We should feel love, not anxiety. Apobangpo!

[@vanessaochoa3964]

While watching your vid, it's overwhelming, and kind of frustrating to end up tearing yes core fandom doing lots of things and giving such information I know they really fighting well for boys and it aching my heart coz we always need to fight for our boys, coz even we want to ignore the thing and such is just that you can't coz the more you ignore it the more they louder they will get that's why we have to do extra effort, double efforts for our boys… thank you for this…. Hope everyone can understand.. Fighting and borahea armys

[@meraldlopesillas8193]

i love you boracity. your videos motivate me a lot. i think im kinda in between core and casual, because sometimes my job takes a lot of energy from me and there have been small periods of time where i dont know whats happening in the fandom but i like to be informed about everything bad or good stuff related to bts to know how to help in every aspect (streaming, reporting, trending hashtags, blocking, sharing goals, projects, etc) but lately i've been having a lot of negative feeling towards the whole situation, even the fandom that i love so much and makes me feel so proud. i was feeling stressed, frustrated, angry, very sad and disappointed, but i keep going because bts has always been here for us even when it's been hell for them since the begining. i was feeling so disappointed with the fandom wondering what had happend to us. (i know it sounds dramatic but this bond and this comunity is really important to me for many reasons) and now that i watched you video i feel like it grounded me in a good way 🥹 i dont know how else to say it, like it opened my eyes and mind again. i won't stop supporting bts and army (NEVER!) but i'll try to not get blindsided by the negativity trying to break us. and i'll take the kind, positive aproach. at the end that's the reason why i love us (bts and army) and want to protect us. thank you soooo much for your videos and your hard work boracity. to me you're one of our lights in the dark guiding us. 💜 i purple you!!! 💜

[@rainwashes8]

Thank you for your honesty and for staying with us despite the negativity! Besides supporting BTS, I hope we support each other too. Let’s be louder and kinder!

[@carolinemcgregor9825]

@@meraldlopesillas8193 I think a lot of us were in danger of getting sucked in. As a Jin bias, I was seeing a lot of "Army doesn't like him" comments from angry solos because he wasn't getting huge streaming numbers. And I had to give myself a talking to to not engage with that mindset. Army does love him and he's doing just fine. This video and a chat on a video by Asian Entertainment and Culture with a lot of other positive Army has really helped today. Glad you feel better too!

[@meraldlopesillas8193]

@rainwashes8 thank you for understanding ❤️‍🩹 no matter how hard or tough the situation gets i don't think i'll ever leave the fandom, i love our comunity too much 🥹 and yes!! let's be louder, and most of all, kinder 🥹💜

[@pjmbyul]

Very interesting comments on core army vs casual army. One way I always talk about it is that there was a major shift during covid, creating pre-covid armys and post-covid armys. Post-covid armys now make up the majority of the fandom, and I notice two key points: Post-covid armys were never around when BTS were active like they used to be and thus don't understand our old fandom culture - even during PTD LA (I went to all four shows), concert etiquette had already been thrown out the window and no one did fanchants unless it was a super popular one, like the names at the start of DNA, but even with DNA, no one did the fanchants in the rest of the song. Compare that with the AMA DNA fanchant, or if you watch fancams from the SYS Tour, everyone in all cities and countries knew all the fanchants. One of my favorite ones is Boy With Luv at the Rosebowl, also in LA. Post-covid armys never lived through old promotion schedules and didn't thus live through common fandom culture experiences. They never watched music show promotions in real time and thus never learned from Korean fans. Not to say we must follow thhose "rules" but there was certainly a certain culture when it comes to live performances that has disappeared, one that was fun. I miss it. Second point is that post-covid armys never lived the genuine struggle BTS went through to get where they are today, particularly BTS' rise in the West, so these post-covid armys don't put in as much effort in terms of active support because they don't personally feel there is a strong need for it - like consistent voting for all awards and proper streaming for all releases. It used to be "Well, if we don't do it, then no one will, and we have to, because BTS only has army." There used to be this unanimous understanding that when an album or song is released, everyone is streaming and buying correctly and constantly, because army is all BTS has. Now, I'm unsure if it's the thought of "Well, someone else will do it" or "BTS are so successful that I don't need to." It's as if that intense passion to do whatever it takes to loudly shout BTS from the rooftops by doing whatever we can to support them is gone. And it was like that before they enlisted. I think BTS just reached a point where they became so super global that new fans just don't understand how hard we as a fandom worked. It was never us just watching BTS rise from the sidelines, we literally climbed up this mountain with them. It was a joint effort. Also, I high-key think this changed a lot too when BTS stopped being active on Twitter. Twitter was where army mobilized the most, now so many live on Insta and TikTok and there isn't the same level of serious support, like voting, streaming, etc. For context, I'm a 2016 army!

[@ami0613]

Everything you said 💯.. and for the record, I went to PTD LA all 4 days and did all the fanchants by myself as loud as I could 💜

[@freewolfcub]

As always thank you for trying to keep us focused and engaged. I too am feeling the negativity but don't want to just ignore the bad. We need some kind of project that focuses on the good. We just got our sunshine back, we should be celebrating that and Jin's new project, keeping Jimin on the charts, hyping RM's new documentary, celebrating V's Layover on vinyl releasing, Suga's many wins from his D-Day album and tour and congratulating our Maknae JK on taking over the music industry. I am so proud of everything they do, we need a way to share that joy amongst each other and the members!

[@matongchannel1883]

LOUDER. I love the way she explain everything to us. This SHOULD BE SEEN by most of the Armys. She deserves more subscribers and views and likes with her videos, tbh.

[@mstinybird]

Thanks for your insight (once again :) Although I understand, I am really tired of all the frustrated comments from core ARMY bashing and blaming everyone for not trying "their best". It is like no matter what you do, it is never enough. I agree that we need more positive motivations in this world of anxiety and negativity. I continue to be loud for BTS by posting thier positive achievements and fun moments. Share smile and laughters is way more attractive.

[@jingo03]

Thank you, Boracity Magazine for this much needed opinion! As a Core ARMY, it's so funding hard? Not only do I have to stream, vote, mute/block antis, consume all content, encourage other ARMY, spread good vibes, I also closely watch the new media, pick who should feed me info. It's so tiring. But, spreading love and support to others is much better than hating. Jin is having his new album, and Hobi is out! ARMY, fighting!

[@lorenaleoncio533]

I'm so glad there's someone with your visibility talking about this in the fandom. It was easier for more armys to be supportive before because every achievement was so huge! Now our fandom takes it all as an obligation and it weights. It weights on the armys who organize projects and on the ones who participate. There's no joy on achieving goals anymore. People will not stay in somewhere that makes them feel bad. Hell, I've been an army for almost a decade now and I decided to step away from the fandom for a bit because I couldn't take it. I just don't know how to fix it. I'm here for them but I genuinely don't know what to do. Jin is putting so much effort into giving content to make us happier (literally) and it seems like most of us aren't even able to enjoy it. When I think about it I'm just heartbroken. It's hard on them and it's hard on us. They need to know we are here, this has always been the base of our relationship with them. We show our support for each other. Let's keep fighting, let's keep loving together

[@Jimsthetic]

Yk vids like these really helps the whole fandom get along with each like Casual armys, the core armys, the baby armys and all. I really appreciate it. Tysm for the hard work everyone.