Just Ed Miliband schooling Reform MPs on basics of renewable energy

[@EbenBransome]

Hang on, offshore wind blights the countryside of his constituents? Is he representing happy British fish at this point?

[@michaelhope8899]

Hate to tell you this......but he's the MP for Boston and Skegness. So yes, he does

[@Hrossey]

When you stand over the road from the google HQ and can see into the CEO’s office, are you inside the office, or did you miss the opening preposition? ✅ us far righters don’t half have high IQ’s.

[@Lift2Experience]

Bolton and Skegness? That's some colossal gerrymandering right there 😂

[@michaelhope8899]

@@Lift2Experience not my finest moment! Edited!

[@Lift2Experience]

@@michaelhope8899 that's alright, just made me chuckle. Incidentally, there are plenty of us Yellow bellies who'd be happy to see both Boston and Skegness under the sea, and Tice along with them 😉 The way things are going it probably won't be long before they are, then offshore wind really will be part of their 'countryside' as opposed to just a seaview.

[@Bevan1988]

The thing is its not just about price is it. Its also about capital outflows. If the UK pays £10m for gas from a foreign country, that is £10m leaving the UK flowing to the producer and its workforce. If the UK spends £12m on the same amount of energy from local renewable sources. That 12m stays within the UK going to the producer and its workforce.

[@iareid8255]

Bevan, its nothing like as simple as that. Successive governments have stifled and curtailed oil and gas in the North sea and prohibbited fracking for shale gas. Both would and should benefit this country. The bigger picture is that expensive renewables means that all costs go up and this country's competitiveness falls, sufficient for a lot of products that could be made here are made elsewhere to the detriment of the balance of payments you refer to and also employment, and those sort of jobs are the most productive.

[@owenwhite7306]

Bottom line, make exports make money, keep the money in the UK, stop 10% imports

[@pickstech466]

Trump will sort this

[@RRich100]

if only that's how it worked. ed and his brother are set to earn millions from this while the cost of living increases for the average person. the standard of living has been on the decline in the UK for decades. our debt is over 2.3t and increasing. interest alone is 80b annually. our government is incompetent and has been for a long time. this is not about labour or tory, both have been terrible

[@warnz9701]

But the producers are foreign owned.

[@kimwit1307]

There's another issue: the price of energy is dictated by the cost of the most expensive energy source. They are coupled together. So even if renewable energy costs only half of fossil energy, the consumer will stil pay the full price. This needs to change.

[@dmac4079]

Wallace and grommit saying sustainable fuel super power?

[@jamieh4357]

That's the whole idea with building more capacity and phasing out fossil fuels so it becomes sufficient to be the marginal supply source for the demand and setting the price lower. If we had the network capacity we could use more of what's generated now but the investment never really happened as after everything became privatised the responsibility is now to the shareholders and not the public. The same thing that's now happened to the water sector who paid dividends instead of using the money to invest in the infrastructure.

[@dmac4079]

@@jamieh4357 infrastructure is key.

[@tomtom-gi9eo]

It's not even nationalised energy. Red Tory Miliband is not a likeable gaslighting typical Tory politician.

[@theythinkimmadyouknow]

which is why the aim is for 100% renewables.

[@growlinggrowler-c2v]

So when will we see cheaper bills? I haven't heard an answer. In fact I haven't heard a single direct answer from liebour yet.

[@trainjedi9651]

The answer is we'll see cheaper bills when we stop relying on gas peaking to meet energy demand meaning that marginal pricing doesn't drive up prices so extortionately Edit: if you want to start saving money now then invest in an energy co-operative

[@DW-indeed]

That take back control line was bang on. Reform grandstanding doesn't work too well when the room isn't filled with supporters, Dickie.

[@jamesarnold7253]

He's my MP and it's just a bit embarrassing

[@beatlebrian4404]

​@@GroundWorker34No their supporters are mad, ontside the house!

[@geordievillan]

@John-gy1bd OK sir, take your best shot: enlighten us as to exactly how the current govt are a: a 'shower', and b: not doing a good job. Come on, specifics. Even just one fucking example of something they have actually done - not that farage's muppets are pretending they will, or that the daily heil is screaming they're going to do. Provide one example of something they have gotten wrong. .... feel free totake your time. But when you can't, please, do also feel equally as free to stfu until you can. ... so tired of idiots doom-saying everything just because someone else told them to. Please, prove to us that you are not one of those idiots and expound upon your point. We are all eager to learn.

[@ancietman]

Starmer & his crew are doing a great job campaigning for Reform 2029. Don't forget Labour only got 9.7 M votes yet there were 48 M people registered to vote at the election.

[@fredholmes6284]

Vote reform UK.. millipede is an idiot

[@randomjasmicisrandom]

“What he has to understand, and I know it’s hard for him…” 😂😂😂

[@gmonkman]

Yea, made harder by taking coin from fossil fuel lobbyists.

[@budbud2509]

milibrain proving he has zero concept of how energy works. The latest price offers to offshore wind will ensure prices will rise more When are we getting the £300 they promised before the election ? And is he one of the few milibrained who believe any rises in temp is down to humans ? Bearing in mind that 96% of all CO2 is natural and the other 4% is what us humans cause The man is a Physics and Science denier

[@michaelcarney6280]

Clueless you lad just hair labour bark and you come calling.

[@kalebdaark100]

@@michaelcarney6280 If you're effectively going to call someone stupid, it's probably best to make sure you haven't made grammatical and spelling errors when doing it. Just a thought.

[@michaelcarney6280]

@alexthesb2241 I believe science over lies

[@robertwilson8965]

😂😂😂 that’s the best ever, ed miliband schooling someone. He is useless and knows nothing about anything

[@michaelmckibbin9665]

whats wrong with 30p's eye? did he get a whack to the bake?

[@jondarbyshire-s7k]

Yes, hope he managed to get a doctors appointment?

[@Captain-l-12p]

Opened his mouth in the wrong place?just asking questions

[@sharpym1982ms]

Pink eye probably from nigel

[@brendanpmaclean]

Stoned!

[@stationsixtyseven67]

Blatheritis?

[@gregorymorton3783]

EDF energy own 8 nucular power plants! French government owned. They didn't put prices up for the French when the prices went up they absorb the loses. What did we do borrow 80b to give to people for heating bills. Ever since MT privatised everything that's when the issues started. In 2022, EDF Energy's revenue in the United Kingdom amounted to 15.9 billion British pounds, up from 10 billion pounds a year earlier. That year, the electricity and gas supply segment accounted for almost 80 percent of the company's revenue This country is a joke 😒

[@davemyers77]

EDF was privatised in the last few years due to the huge and increasing debt they have. They are the perfect examples of why not to rely on nuclear.

[@gregorymorton3783]

@@davemyers77 Thought Électricité de France owned 100% by the state of the French Government 🤔 Last year they owned 64.5B euros now they own 54b Euros. Revenue of 140b Euros, OI 40B Euros, Net Income 10B Euros which would explain the 10B Euros off the debt?

[@james8081]

What were the liabilities/costs those revenues had to offset in order for EDF to be profitable and stay in business?

[@DerekYoung-h4w]

The idea of “Dead Ed Milaband” lecturing anyone on anything is farcical. When it comes to hopelessness, that is where “Ed’s” expertise is based. A complete waste of space and time is Ed, always was, always will be.

[@Musa786-lx2ui]

Yeh well I'm gonna talk about today and today he smoked that reform MP that take back control hit home slapped you in the face didn't it...lmao 😂😂

[@Musa786-lx2ui]

That take back control rattled ur cage 😂

[@Musa786-lx2ui]

1:44 dedicated to you 😂😂

[@WillBabitt]

The energy bills crisis was caused by obscene profits for the energy providers. Nothing else.

[@ninjadudeofficial]

Not exclusively. A publicly owned energy company would be able to avoid that (which makes it a shame that GB energy doesn't quite seem to be that) but renewables are significantly cheaper than oil and gas per watt (and wayy cheaper than coal) AND the start of that whole thing did seem to be dependence on foreign oil and restrictions on that around the invasion of Ukraine

[@WillBabitt]

@@ninjadudeofficial Are you suggesting that if they were not charging obscene prices, somehow we’d still be paying obscene prices?

[@realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961]

They provide our energy. Of course they make big profits, they also reinvest those profits. Sanctions on Russia had zero effect on energy bills then? Timing of the bills rapidly going up was all just a coincidence?

[@patrickcromie7095]

@Willbabitt, offgen caused the problem by allowing companies to charge more than the energy is worth. So it’s the government that is responsible! You can say that is the fault of the tories, which is an argument that is partly valid, so the Labour Party, as the new government can solve it. The ball is in their court so to speak!

[@WillBabitt]

@@realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961 we’re talking about hundreds of billions. Where is that money going?

[@adamlxrd421]

Miliband's face when following protocol and calling them 'honourable' paints a hell of a picture

[@joescott54]

None of them are honourable in the cesspit...

[@rangewarwick]

Take Back Control. That was genius level debating from Ed.

[@NigelButton]

Genius debating?, u deluded???

[@Bouncer_RF06]

Nothing Ed miliband has ever done has been “genius”

[@RRich100]

wow you might be too far gone if you support Ed and his brother

[@denzel270]

22nd Jan, there has been no wind for over a week. Control what, the weather?

[@aaronogden9900]

So the need for subsidies in renewables undermines their validity? Best stick to those fossil fuels that never get subsidies😂

[@WebToolkit]

Renewables without subsidies are actually still more economically viable than fossil fuels with subsidies which is why all of the energy providers are actually looking into renewable energy. The subsidies are simply there to accelerate the conversion. Something we all benefit from in the long run.

[@stevefrompolaca2403]

no those fossil fuels are taxed to f*** thats why your paying nigh on 2 quid a litre and it costs p nuts in Iran or anywhere outside of the euro bubble. Baa Baa Baa

[@Wiggle65]

​@@WebToolkitYou've drunk the green energy kool aid! The Labour party wanted to subsidies at £40 per kilo watt hour, no one touched with a bargepole, so they increased it to £80 per kilo watt hour. Typical socialists love spending someone elses money! What happens when the sun don't shine and the wind doesn't blow? This summer the coldest since 2015, I thought (sorry, preached and told) we were getting warmer!!!

[@thornbottle]

you dont need subsidies for fossil fuels because they are making so much profit off you that its completly worth their while to do it all themselves. They make billions from you, their profits are absolutely huge. There is not as much profit in renewables because its not used as much as fossil fuels right now. that is changing, wind and solar are becoming cheaper and cheaper, and it will get to the point where subsidies are no longer needed, because instead of all the profits going to oil giants, it will switch to renewable energy firms as we will no longer need billions of barrels of oil a day

[@aaronogden9900]

@@WebToolkit Absolutely. If renewables had been given even half the amount in subsidies that the fossil fuel industry has received in the last 50 years the world would have largely solved the problem already.

[@oliplaysbass]

The ‘take back control’ line floored me.

[@JohnnyRingo-c5v]

Really ? Millband seems to like destroying our economy in pursuit of green energy 😂

[@oliplaysbass]

@@JohnnyRingo-c5v we’re gonna have to use it eventually. Oil & gas won’t last forever. Costs to make the investment but it’ll be ultimately worth the pay off when we don’t have to rely on foreign markets

[@Mixamii]

@@JohnnyRingo-c5v you mean the cheaper option that doesn't require fuel costs strengthening our access to energy and futureproofing our markets? Sounds like you're misinformed

[@denzel270]

22nd Jan, there has been no wind for over a week. Take back control ,of what, the weather?

[@oliplaysbass]

@@denzel270firstly, where’s your source for that. There will have been wind. Also the wind generates energy and then gets stored. Unlike Russia or other countries we get oil from, we don’t cut our wind supply when there’s a war or other conflict going on.

[@laurentduval5094]

"blighting the countryside of my constituents". That's a laugh, his area has some of the most unpleasant countryside in the whole UK. It's desolate and bleak. He's probably not been there, to be fair.

[@ninjadudeofficial]

I can't remember which of the twats said that but for all the many faults of 30p Lee, he has indeed been to his constituency. I've got a friend from there who's met him, and has family who know him well. Unfortunately for her

[@WebToolkit]

I'd much prefer a nice industrial coal fire power station. I feel like all the carbon dioxide really adds a special something to the environment.

[@annphillips1086]

@@WebToolkit Well, if they're going to outlaw passive smoking and diesel emissions, we have to have something comfortingly smelly to fill our lungs with.

[@DavidWilliams-q2w]

Shutting coal fired powerstations is now the reason energy prices are high

[@garythreadgill8913]

It’s a waste of time until they cut the tie between cost of energy and gas prices! If renewables are cheaper per kWh, all that is going to do is give even higher windfall profits to the energy companies!

[@alan2007-x8x]

Not if there is competition between the companies. In addition, with windfall taxes we can ensure that they can't increase their profits at our expense.

[@ninjadudeofficial]

Even without better controls and nationalisation, it's already seen on the market that renewables are cheaper for consumers. So to say it's a waste of time is an outright lie; but yes we need to nationalise it all so we can go back to the trend of falling energy costs before Thatcher came around

[@tajj7]

Facepalm, they want to create a public owned energy company, that will largely be supplied by renewable energy, so the government will own it, run it and set the prices, so they won't profiteer. That is the whole point of the policy, we can't control the oil and gas markets because they go internationally, but we can control home produced renewable power.

[@chrisgrahma5064]

Renewables are not cheaper, as slready demonstrated in Germany, Australia, the USA etc.

[@123Andersonev]

which is why we said nationalise and decouple from the wholesale market but ohhh no...

[@rogermoore5761]

We were energy secure once and the profits remained in the country not sent to shareholders abroad. Labour needs to take back control and nationalise the electricity and gas companies and forget the railways. Nationalise something that will give them money to fill this alleged 22 billion blackhole and benefit the country.

[@fayesouthall6604]

That’s exactly what they are doing.

[@trevormannsfield]

​@@fayesouthall6604 Labour are not re-nationalising energy lol

[@stevefrompolaca2403]

the profits were pissed away while Norway created a national wealth fund

[@custardstuff5178]

We need to do both, the other countries in Europe are laughing at us as they milk our rail system to fund their own!

[@gmonkman]

Sure, but nothing stopping doing energy and railways. That is one reason for minitisters with different portfolios!Bringing back nuclear energy expertise "in-house" would be great as well .. I think we are on the same page that these are long term investments in the coutry, owned by the people.

[@flippstar09]

And where is Nigel ????

[@jcx-200]

Chain smoking outside every pub he can in a hissy fit protest probably

[@manglewurzel5328]

Clacton?

[@Mlaargaar]

@@manglewurzel5328doubt

[@jsanders100]

@@manglewurzel5328anywhere but Clacton

[@declansalisbury5698]

Trump Tower probably

[@malcolmrowe5031]

Ed Miliband, probably the dumbest person in the uk

[@politicalfoolishness7491]

If the average person has the thinking BANDwidth of a unit, MILLIBAND is only a thousandth of that. Mosquito territory. 🤣 He can't fly but he can suck the lifeblood out of the people with his green corrupt schemes.

[@anthonycarroll6434]

And you are the most intelligent person in the UK,YOU TELL EM.

[@tiredofhangingaround]

"...and take back control" *pause for laughter* Superb😂

[@ianwilson9631]

Mills and is a complete tool . Official

[@JJones-oi3jc]

I understand all this but how doe this explain countries like South Korea, Iran, Canada and Mexico having the cheapest electricity. Also Canada, the US, Romania and Hungry having the cheapest natural gas. Can anyone explain this?

[@georgegregson1758]

How can anyone argue that a power station that runs on fresh air is more expensive to run than one that runs on coal?

[@MrCliffybiro]

By being paid to believe that

[@stujujitwingfut5192]

Because it will never become reality.

[@cookiemonster-uv6vs]

​@@stujujitwingfut5192it already is reality solar farms wind farms. Once the infrastructure is in place fully the only costs will be maintenance and daily running look at these electric vehicles with 400 k miles plus on Lees neighbouring constituency Bolsover which serviced Ashfield as well had a private hire with 430,000 miles on original brakes because of rengen braking by the electric motor and minimum service costs overall has saved tens of thousands over internal combustion engine vehicles over several years a little investment up front saved lots of money over not that many years so why will it not work for power needs in the UK

[@chester6343]

@@cookiemonster-uv6vs watch guy martins doc on power

[@serinadelmar6012]

@@stujujitwingfut5192😂 oh dear.

[@martingreen5439]

"Tell the truth"? Coming from a tory, that has been lying to the country for 14 years...the nerve of the creature!

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

tbf he's been Labour, Tory and Reform all within the last 10 years

[@johnwilliamson3228]

Might make his mind up one day. He's been on a long journey. Seems to have missed the LibDems! 😮

[@tmarritt]

​@@johnwilliamson3228 don't push him on us 😂

[@patrickcromie7095]

@Matthew, you can say that he can’t make his mind up which party he supports and I am not sticking up for him but at the same time is that any worse than staying with one party just to say the opposite! Is it any worse than someone saying I vote labour, conservative, Lib Dem, etc because my dad did and his dad did etc etc?

[@brigittapayne6203]

This is not a Tory asking the valid question

[@Zelcon02]

The UK has the highest electricity prices in the world, created by policies that Miliband defends.

[@blinkin78]

What are you telling lies for 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@matthewrotherham1]

Lee Anderson .... doesn't know his own position. He's changed party more than he changes his pants....

[@G_C340]

yugh!

[@easycoding8255]

And there’s still probably not much difference there

[@rexbuttb.e.m5319]

So you had to make a comment about Lee Anderson and not the topic. What an arsehead.

[@brendanpmaclean]

If there was an arsehole party, he’d be brilliant.

[@paulwainwright6903]

He is always right though and full of common sense, though I suspect you lot are labour voters , they always come I and bankrupt the country they have had a big help fro the Tories this time though .FFS

[@mrtalos]

Energy prices shot up because of rhe war in Ukraine. Everywhere else in the EU, the prices dropped all the way back down. In the UK, energy companies had record profits. It's not how the energy is produced that's the problem.

[@TrimTimeTips-m4g]

You only have to look at the live charts for wholesale natural gas to see this. The prices fell rapidly after the huge spike in 2022 and by February 2023 they had fallen right back. (Strangely no headlines in the media.) Since then (for about 19 months) the wholesale price og gas has bumbled along the bottom whilst retail prices have remained stubbornly high. The energy companies are profiteering in plain site. Aided and abetted by OFGEM who introduced price caps which the energy companies treat as minimums. They are filling their boots whilst the citizens of Europe enjoy gas prices that reflect the actual wholesale cost of gas. Meanwhile those on low incomes choose between heating and eating. Happy winter everyone!

[@mattstraddle3729]

@@TrimTimeTips-m4g Good point and I don’t disagree entirely, but it is important to note that energy companies buy well in advance to ensure the security of the supply. This means when wholesale prices go down, the companies are still trying to recover the costs of the energy they secured 6 months before. I’m not supporting the energy companies, they are undoubtedly profiteering for their shareholders and directors in the long run and nationalisation of the industry is very much needed, but I just wanted to add a little context to some of the barriers we currently face.

[@raidermanuk]

@@mattstraddle3729 Agreed and which I why I specifically pointed out that the price has been "low" for 19 months. It's been going on for far too long now!

[@mattstraddle3729]

@@raidermanuk completely agree, I was only trying to add some context, and as you say, OFGEM are a significant part of this problem, setting price caps that benefit the suppliers, rather than consumers.

[@222inverter]

the prices were high before then???? but yes the war has kept it high now

[@CasparMacRae]

Erm, 'right' at the end ('far' end) about @3:11, is Lee Anderson pointing and offering Miliband "outside"?

[@ianwheeler7513]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the Tories refused to put a windfall tax on energy companies during the energy crisis, which many of our European neighbour's did. 30p really does talk out of both ends.

[@samuelmelton8353]

> Complains about blighting the countryside > Okay blighting children's playgrounds with chain smokers

[@annaandy1]

Only in Joe’s lefty echo chamber he did

[@FarmervsTheWorld-r7u]

quick question off topic sorry. Do we need to buy extra fire trucks and ambulances and police vehicles incase one needs charging up and they're busy ? Isn't that going to cost a fortune for the tax payers?

[@IOSALive]

PoliticsJOE, I loved this video so much, I had to hit the like button!

[@sheppo]

I wonder if Lee knocked on the doors of his constituents with solar panels on their houses to ask them their views. Everyone I know with them is always going on about how fantastic they are and how much cheaper the electricity bills are.

[@davejlboy4505]

Milliband was like a school teacher reprimanding two unruly thick pupils who hadn't done their homework..

[@ap24101988]

What planet you on, he couldn’t answer the simple question. Fully cutting fossil fuels and letting pensioners freeze over winter. Clap clap dummy

[@kennethmaley2443]

Milliband a failed labour leader .

[@PaddyWV]

How much do they still subsidise Nuclear? Have they decided where they're going to bury tons of the waste yet?

[@ninjadudeofficial]

No idea, but the only waste that there's tons of is pretty safe and easy to deal with. And we have several pretty good solutions to the remaining tiny amount of actually radioactive waste, which is why France and China and plenty of others can happily and safely use loads of nuclear power. But it's also not really the point of this video; he's talking about renewables

[@mjwoodroff8446]

I think the main issues with nuclear is the cost and scarcity of the raw materials. It's one of the reasons France has made great efforts to maintain a grip on Northwest Africa where there is an abundance of uranium deposits and they can manipulate an excellent deal for it

[@patrickcromie7095]

@PaddyWV, as opposed to the waste batteries that would need to be buried which would be far more problematic. Not to mention the the destruction caused by extraction processes needed at the start of the production of the trillions of batteries needed for the electric utopia you so desire?

[@dkbmaestrorules]

I'm glad we now get to see Ed Miliband at the dispatch box again. Maybe he will even manage to beat "is there anything that he could organise in a brewery?" from when he was party leader...

[@TheReelDealFilmReviews]

Ed is a really decent man which and it’s good to see him.

[@Ibluntlysaywhatithink]

​@@TheReelDealFilmReviews Ed is an arrogant smug man and I've had enough of him already!

[@Ibluntlysaywhatithink]

I can't stand the sight of Ed and neither can the Reform party. This is another reason why i am so glad I voted Reform and not the hypocritical Labour Party!

[@TheReelDealFilmReviews]

@@Ibluntlysaywhatithink New Labour and its recent iterations are certainly hypocritical but Ed means well I think. Reform is a party which has been cleverly orchestrated to look like a party for the people but it’s obviously Alt right and appeals to purple Tories, Alt righters and old school Leftists voted for them as they feel disenfranchised and I think they will become more popular. I don’t think however they stand for what a lot of their voters actually want or most importantly need.

[@dcarbs2979]

@@TheReelDealFilmReviews Such a shame he's a fool and so easy to take for a mug.

[@davidpowell3993]

We do have an overexposure to gas, and part of the reason why we have that overexposure is because gas power stations are used to balance and backup intermittent, variable and non-dispatchable renewables. If Labour wants to change that, they need to invest vastly more in storage (mostly pumped hydro with some battery storage), tidal lagoons and nuclear power, and much less in wind power. The kind of renewable energy we definitely don't need is biomass, whose air pollution kills people, and causes the destruction of habitats and creates mono-cultures.

[@AdamBrooker]

Blighting the countryside of Boston and Skegness 😂😂😂

[@tnbull247]

Lol that start omfg... he's obsessed with it. YEAH MATE IT'S HIS LITERALLY HIS JOB.

[@VictorCharlesEvans]

HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THE HUGE PROFITEERING OF THE ENERGY COMPANIES!!!

[@alexgarland2747]

Is there a follow up video? I missed the schooling

[@Alex-cn9sl]

I’ve heard first hand from Ed Miliband how passionate he is about the climate agenda and energy security, so regardless of political affiliations he seems the right person to lead DESNZ forwards

[@jimblamire3312]

And he drives a fossil fuelled vehicle, how about that.

[@benjamingriffith4991]

@@jimblamire3312 so do most people, infrastructure isn't there for them yet

[@lyndp3995]

Lol

[@BrinJay-s4v]

A great shame he has little understanding of physics and no logic. Co2 is incapable of any climate emergency so Net zero can achieve nothing at all.

[@deanjames2476]

Does Ed milliband have heat pumps and an electric car he can afford it the majority of the country can't 🤔

[@greyhorse1211]

It’s bizarre how no mention was made of oil. Oil runs nearly all our transport, agriculture etc. I’m guessing oil products are used for at least 70% of our primary energy today. They only talk about ‘power’ which is electricity which is only at max 25% of total primary energy currently in UK.

[@mjcamp01]

But every car that is switched from ICE to EV changes that power mix a fraction from oil to electric, due to EU tariffs, Chinese cars will be significantly cheaper in the UK than EU from November 1st so expect a lot of EV to appear in the UK next year. Those EV can be charged overnight on windy days when there is excess power on the grid for about 2p per mile, which is about 10p per mile cheaper than Petrol

[@TheUnluckyGama]

Because electricity runs things like your house! Also, tube trains and trams, would allow more electrified train lines and cope with moving to electric vehicles. Yorkshire bus fleet is now entirely electric, it won't be long until other cities follow

[@davemyers77]

Primary energy is a terrible metric. It includes all the wasted energy that becomes heat, light and sound when fossil fuels are burnt. 50-70% of primary energy from fossil fuels doesn't need to be replaced as it is wasted. If you use 1kWh of gas in a boiler, ignoring all the energy to extract and transport it and all the gas lost in leaks, you will get 0.8kWh of heat at best. 1kWh of electricity in a heat pump, ignoring transmission losses which are tiny compared to the losses in the gas system, you get 3-6kWh of heat. The story is the same with other energy uses, switching to electricity vastly reduces the primary energy requirements.

[@greyhorse1211]

@@davemyers77that’s a great point.

[@Oneshot.6715]

Lee will soon deport his black eye

[@James-st9uu]

Can we not also prevent the owners of wind farms from increasing the price of wind energy by inflation + a nominal rate each year....

[@huginnmuninn2155]

They don't determine the price of their electricity - They are either selling on the market, where the price is set by the marginal producer, or a CFD contract.

[@willduffay2207]

Beautiful to watch Miliband patronise Anderson. Such fun.

[@davideastwood6365]

Ironically Tice has a home in Seaview on the Isle of Wight where he scurried off to with Oakshott during the first lockdown, local MP at the time Bob Seely broke the lockdown rules by popping round for a bbq. The islands 3rd largest employer is Vestas, an offshore wind turbine manufacturer.

[@3d1e00]

Where do they think the materials come from? You can shift the dependency you can't remove it. We are always dependent on the international markets.

[@alan2007-x8x]

Materials? Wind? Solar?

[@3d1e00]

@@alan2007-x8x anything and everything, these aren't small numbers and you'll need to provide parts through the lifespan. Do we have a blade manufacturer anymore?

[@allanchurm]

renewable energy sounds great till you realise that the energy it creates cannot be handled by the grid ..also cannot be stored and we have to pay the wind farms to turn the windmills off. and yes the price of energy is governed by the highest price of gas..as a lot of the power stations were powered by this back in the day. every goverment has REFUSED to split the price of electricity from gas because the high prices mean more vat money..same as labour want to do away with the 5% help at the pumps ..they need money as sunak and co along with johnson have maxed out the countrys credit.. BAD news is by doing what they are doing inflation will rise as firms have to soak up the higher motering costs..( and the BO will keep or rise rates again ) especially now wages are set way above the inflation rate..

[@AmbroseCoyle]

❤ ed

[@stevefrompolaca2403]

he is chasing a nihilistic dream, he didn't answer the questions put, your gonna pay more, I just got an email from my energy supplier that my bills are going to increase as of october... enjoy your suffrance.

[@NotTheRealRogerMurdock]

Love the "and take back control" dig. Exquisite. This is like if Obama had listened to George W for economic advice

[@plweis7203]

Miliband is clearly completely out of his depth.

[@sarahstrupinski6863]

How are tosspot Reform MPs given such question times?

[@Bouncer_RF06]

Ed talking bollocks as usual… Labour lies

[@johnw.1474]

I look forward to your no-doubt detailed rebuttal. Or are you just hurling insults because your favourite wafflers got shown up?

[@DaveMorris-o9h]

A massive bank of offshore wind turbines off the N.Wales coast not moved in 5 days, ask ED how much energy they produced.

[@jonathanwilliams9697]

Ed Milliand is trolling Reform like no other 😂

[@colbr6733]

This is the problem with politicians today. A vague response to a specific question , it's no wonder the interest in offshore wind licenses is undermined by the Energy Minister's position on the markets those companies serve.

[@_Tp___]

Even if it was more expensive to use renewables, can we really afford the long term costs of climate change? More floods, more deaths, water insecurity, food insecurity, is that a price reform is willing to pay? I don't think they even think past next week.

[@biggieyeeter7814]

There is no climate emergency! FACT!

[@joejoejoe4577]

You’ve been well propagandised haven’t you?

[@rainbowevil]

@@joejoejoe4577 you’ve never had an original thought in your life.

[@marknaisby7384]

You have bought into confirmation bias if you think populations have an impact on climate . From the 12th century the uk crop failures were huge for 500 x years in medieval britain due to weather which led to a pre malthusian age . After 1840 and the industrial revolution in the uk. deaths declined dramatically. Life expectancy went from 37yrs in1840 to 67yrs in 1914 . Water and food insecurity is down to government policy in urban areas , in rural it is mainly down to individual industry .Read your history, its all there . Regards

[@joejoejoe4577]

@@marknaisby7384 well said.

[@isotropisch82]

We will definitely need more renewable energy in future. Choosing not to invest in it is idiotic.

[@lennonpolo]

You are in dream land!

[@isotropisch82]

@@lennonpolo sooo, we will use fossil fuels for eternity? At some point in the past people like you would have been pro ox and anti water wheel, and pro water wheel and anti steam, and anti petrol and pro steam. Everything changes.

[@lennonpolo]

@@isotropisch82 Net zero is a globalist agenda and its designed to control us and make us poor!

[@themasqueradingcow91]

​@@isotropisch82 'I want lead in my petrol! Nanny state telling me what heavy metals I am and not allowed to combust!'

[@patrickcromie7095]

@isotropisch, yes invest in renewable energy for the future but to try and do it at the rate they want to is ridiculous and will cost lives. Are the lives of the future more important than lives today? Wind turbines are being powered by diesel engines, batteries cannot be recycled but are being produced at a ridiculous rate, nuclear power stations are not being built, they take years, start now, stop talking about it! Ev’s are more damaging to the environment than internal combustion engines, 99% of an ic car can be recycled, except the battery, a quarter of an ev cannot be recycled, the batteries! We all understand that things should be done but the net zero rhetoric is a scam and we should not fail for it!

[@richardjakobek7477]

“I know this is hard for him.” 😂

[@Squarepeg57]

Tice shilling for the oil companies again.

[@clinteastwood8230]

Give you head a wobble . Labour going make things cost loads more

[@JupiterThunder]

He's suggesting we generate our own oil and gas so we'd be rich. Instead of sh!t poor like we are now.

[@TheUnluckyGama]

​@JupiterThunder that's not how it works. UK gas and oil is drilled by private companies who sell it on the open market. The only people getting rich are their shareholders...

[@CrazyFool75]

This country is miserably short on generating capacity. Regardless of where most of our native energy comes from, we import between 15 and 20% of our daily energy consumption from the continent. So much for taking back control. Like every other large infrastructure project in the uk, new power has been sabotaged by government incompetence and the great British NIMBY. Planning laws should be changed to eliminate the No option: if you don’t want a wind farm on your doorstep, you get a nuclear reactor, and if you don’t want a reactor on your doorstep you get a coal or oil burner. And if you don’t want that, then unplug yourself and get back to the 19th century.

[@toraguchitoraguchi9154]

The very idea that Milliband was qualified to school somebody was quite hilarious.

[@jameshogben2243]

How so?

[@mildlydispleased3221]

Shut up, he's a legend

[@huginnmuninn2155]

@@jameshogben2243 He is painfully deluded in regards to the functioning of the electricity system.

[@jayr9952]

You are not even qualified to breathe the same air as Milliband

[@huginnmuninn2155]

@@jayr9952 do you think breathing licences are a thing? Anyway, the central point is that renewables increase dependence on gas, not decrease it.

[@nigelcoles1979]

All the utilities should be nationalised and not be subject to market prices. Use the natural gas we have under our own control to benefit UK users.

[@phildavies6020]

...Like they were before that lovely Thatcher woman flogged them off, not taking in to account the greed involved in privatised industries?

[@W2xyz66]

Lee liked fossil fuel so much he was prepared to scab his way to work. Traitor, although he seems to have done rather well financially. Sadly not his intelligence 😂😂😂

[@verystripeyzebra]

And take all the fossil fuel industry money in donations to reform.

[@BrinJay-s4v]

@@verystripeyzebra I think you will find Reform candidates funded themselves largely such is the determination to squish Bolshevik influences in British politics. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[@malcolmrowe5031]

lee was never a scab he was a a child at the time of the miners strike, don't worry having the iq of a glass of water compels you to vote liebour

[@kennethmaley2443]

​@@verystripeyzebra prove it.

[@teresahumphrey218]

Mila and is talking nonsense as usual

[@MIEJ4]

Why do you think that?

[@BattleDrunk]

Ed got owned more like he has not changed he is still completely inept.

[@Maca3894]

Just keep using fossil fuels.....they will be here forever. We have been running out of oil since the 70s!

[@shaunwalley]

Talking of wind blowing, WHEN are we going to benefit from the offshore windfarm in the north sea, they've been there for years now and NOTHING!!!!!.

[@fayesouthall6604]

Ask your energy provider to provide detailed information about where the energy comes from.

[@chrispennington9652]

They haven't learnt yet how to store wind energy!!!!!!

[@alan2007-x8x]

@@chrispennington9652 Gravity storage, pumped hydro, grid-scale batteries, thermal storage, hydrogen, etc, etc. Do read up on these.

[@heretic1414]

Nuclear energy needs to be the step between fossil fuels and renewable energy.

[@rivetjoint9628]

In the words of David Attenborough - and here we have the rare old crustacean "Dimus witus" a dying old fossil. Well done Ed.

[@AndrewWoods-sm9vx]

adjusted for inflation, fuel prices have rarely been lower

[@garyb455]

Only a complete fool would leave all that Tax money 78% tax, under the North Sea and then go buy Oil and Gas elsewhere, that's stupidity on an industrial scale.

[@verystripeyzebra]

Shame thatcher sold it for a song then. Isn't it?

[@EbenBransome]

Tell that to Thatcher, her government set up the system. The tax doesn't care whether the oil comes from the North Sea or not, the revenue from North Sea oil and gas would be small. Miliband tried to explain it but people like you simply do not want to understand.

[@chriswood3252]

It looks like you didn't pay much attention in English or science. 😵‍💫

[@50brian50]

Where still selling it the French have just built the culzan (gas) 4 years ago in the North Sea

[@adrianlloyd6403]

Our energy policy in the UK over many governments and many years has been an object lesson in stupidity.The Norwegians built a sovereign wealth fund from their North Sea oil and gas taxes...the UK just squandered theirs instead of investing it wisely.The French provided national and vital energy security (as has been vindicated with Russia's invasion of Ukraine) by relying heavily on nuclear power whereas UK governments lacked the spine to proceed with this sensible policy because public opinion opposed it and miners unions wanted coal fired power stations instead to provide jobs for their members.And probably most ridiculous of all was the reluctance to consider a tidal barrage across the river Severn from Cardiff to England which has the second highest tidal range in the world and could have been generating renewable energy on an industrial scale for many years.Short termism and a lack of joined up thinking from our political classes over many years means we are where we are.We have the ridiculous situation now that we have to rely on a joint French and Chinese consortium to build a new nuclear facility at Hinkley Point when Calder Hall in 1956 was only a couple of years after the very first nuclear power station in the world.

[@justinengland9814]

The title "Just" why is that added? Richard Tice made a good point and Ed replied with a fair answer. I would not say they were "schooled" The energy market is very much open to deeper debates, we do need some form or renewables, but also fossil fuels are not done with yet!

[@AodhanBeag]

Its the deliberate pause after "take back control" that really twists the knife

[@heronsdoor4658]

he's an arsehole

[@jsergiuiulian]

And the slow blink

[@bluebob81]

Good old Lee, the most intelligent man in the Ashfield Weatherspoons.

[@SteveGrethe]

I always enjoy Ed giving Reform a good shafting - taking back control - brilliant!

[@Ibluntlysaywhatithink]

More likely he's taking billions of tax payers money and wasting it on a Labour vanity project. That's what Ed is taking!

[@colinwishbone4437]

You mean like milliband shaftedhis BROTHER DAVID,ANYONE TRUSTING MILLIBAND IS AS BAD HE IS

[@dylanmckibbin8822]

Where is the grilling part ?

[@rn7666]

30p Lee & Tice need to learn the facts of a mixed economy of fuels transitioning to a major majority of renewables & the economic growth that brings on for generations to come.

[@G_C340]

We would still be using horses and carts if these muppets had been around in 1900.

[@roderickjoyce6716]

@@G_C340 If they'd been around in the Stone Age they would have been against the wheel.

[@patrickcromie7095]

@G_C340, you have touched on something very important with your horse and cart analogy! Why do we need so much technology? Do cars really need electric windows/mirrors? Electric lighting on reflective street signs? Digital clocks instead of analogue? 24hr neon lighting? Standby on electrical appliances? Electric signage on buses, trains etc. No we don’t! Spend a day walking around any town/city with your eyes open and the list of unnecessary things that have pointless battery/electric powered components is ridiculous! Sort this out and the ‘grid’ would probably let out a sigh of relief! Do it for a day, the list of unnecessaries is endless! Once you start looking you realise they are everywhere! Getting rid of these useless things would not just help us, it would help nature as well!

[@patrickcromie7095]

@roderickjoyce, you can’t see you’re being manipulated to pay for things you don’t really need. Wakey wakey

[@MattHawkinsUK]

Every kWh we generate ourselves from renewables is one less that we need to buy from gangsters. I would have thought this was something we could and should all agree with.

[@mickb1471]

Who on earth can watch Milliband without wanting to throw a brick at the TV, he's an absolute disgrace.

[@charliern]

exactly what part of what he said has you so confused?

[@mickb1471]

@@charliern really!!?

[@thesleeplessmn]

@@mickb1471 answer the question.

[@StewartByrne]

Have they ever told the truth........I can't think when

[@michaelgriffiths5723]

He didn't school him he stated that energy prices were dictated on the global market. Then said if we have renewables, it would be cheaper. Is he saying renewable energy can be decoupled from the global market?

[@RPaton]

“The first lesson of economics is scarcity: There is never enough of anything to satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics.”- Thomas Sowell

[@TomTom-it2si]

Sowell can’t even define scarcity and that quote is barley relevant. Try harder

[@ConfydeMusic]

Sowell won't even acknowledge the role of abundance and surplus, his view of economics is woefully incomplete. He is not a serious voice to be listened to.

[@jameshogben2243]

@@TomTom-it2si I shan't comment on the economics but feel compelled to ask: What has barley got to do with this?

[@stevecox4465]

It’s is also about the money that stays in the UK economy rather than importing around $100b a year of fossil fuels, money that leaves the UK economy!

[@Who-z8k]

Most companies are foreign owned they days. So money is flowing out either way.

[@richardfisher3961]

Well done Ed.

[@ihallsworth]

This is a man (?) who got a donation from a donar in the oil and gas industry.

[@TimNeedham-l7z]

So pleased the Tories are out ..we would be in a far worse place now...

[@Tango22052]

Flat earthers, you got to feel for them 🌍

[@kenhardy8405]

Miliband is stopping licensing to explore North Sea oil and gas fields, yet criticised the reliance on foreign energy. He can’t have it both ways.

[@ninjadudeofficial]

You seem to have missed the bit where we're building loads of new wind and solar

[@EbenBransome]

The North Sea oil and gas isn't ours, we get a pittance back in licensing fees. Its extracted by foreign companies.

[@verystripeyzebra]

And missed the bit where there are plenty of oil and gas licenses already.

[@timgray5373]

North Sea oil and gas would be sold by companies on international markets. It's not a domestic benefit.

[@andrewmark2783]

​@@timgray5373they just don't listen before commenting do they?

[@BanterRanterr]

Just remember that high energy costs are partly caused by "Scrap the Green Crap," the same individuals who "forgot" to build wealth fund like Norway... (Yes, UK extracted similar volume 😢🤷‍♂️)

[@dh1380]

Their "Net 0 migration policy" also doesnt gel with their stance on renewables. Fossil fuels and global warming are going to cause immigration to cooler climes to skyrocket.

[@alan2007-x8x]

Exactly. Their 'policies' create the very problems that Reform claim they want to address. Strange how greed, selfishness, and hostility to others tend not to work very well, isn't it?

[@_KRYMZN_]

It does when you factor in that they don’t care if those people die. They’ll send them back into danger easily

[@jenko6196]

This is by design within climate disinformation. Its inextricable tie to climate change means higher immigration so that those on the right can blame immigrants for their country’s problems. If you deny climate change is a problem at all, then climate based immigration becomes illegitimate.

[@joejoejoe4577]

You’ve bought the propaganda then?

[@benjamingriffith4991]

@@joejoejoe4577 you should buy a book or use your internet subscription for anything other than social media

[@Ruskinses]

Has someone lamped 30p Lee? Or does he have pink eye?

[@townsendv58]

Cockwomble is the best word to describe the Mps for the Reform UK All 5 of them.

[@Thatdontsurpriseme]

And absolute bellends is how I would describe every single labour MP

[@alan2007-x8x]

@@Thatdontsurpriseme You must love fact-free politics, then.

[@johntoohey2354]

@@ThatdontsurprisemeSounds like you’re pretty familiar with bellends…..

[@tarkovRatter]

I bet you would keep sending all our money abroad instead

[@Captain-l-12p]

Can't fix stupid

[@n0w3lly90]

Ed Miliband couldn't "school" a person on how to tie their shoelaces. What a useless clickbait title!

[@VonRyansExpress]

Milliband should stick to Bacon sarnies . . .

[@andrewjames9996]

And lisping

[@IndieGems2]

Has Lee Anderson got pinkeye or has somebody thumped him?