Just How Bad Was My 'CHEAP' Auction Range Rover Sport?

[@raycrocker2844]

I don’t know why some people want to criticise people like yourself, I mean at the end of the day you are in a business that is tough and you are honest, you tell us warts and all as it is. You tell us the costs and show us the faults and how you rectify them and take us on that journey with you, what’s not to like? Keep going I like the honesty.👍

[@michaelbbb2271]

Why the criticism here from a few . The guy seems very honest and sincere . My favourite car channel

[@Broomehall]

Been in the trade professionally as a one man band for 40+ years, its been my life and has rewarded me well, and just to clarify I like to think i have one of the happiest customer/proprietor connections out there .... BUT .... I never buy LR products ! (or Vauxhall ) this job is ALL about damage limitation, so many vehicles I simply won't touch, makes life that much easier for me and my customers.

[@garyconnerty9664]

Stick to what you know is the easy answer, there are plenty of people that do the run of the mill work..specialise in LR I earn 4 times the Joe down the street.

[@jonathanmarkbotterell1926]

My Dads Ford Cortina, was his pride and joy. Sundays before lunch he would hand clean it, in and out. It was part of the family. Now it seems, a lot dont give cars any respect anymore. 😎☯️🌱

[@M94289]

Joe another top tip for the sticky interior buttons on the sports & l405 vogues if you have any more in the further, Neutrogena makeup wipes. Everyone recommends it on the Range Rover forums. Cheap as chips on Amazon and leaves the buttons perfect! Some tar and goo removers will strip the buttons of the labels. Used it for Vogues/Disco 4’s etc.

[@davidporter2770]

I am South African, 78, and was in the luggage manufacturing business. To remove stubborn stains without removing the colour from the seats, leather, vinyl and plastic, we used a highly flammable Shell product called MEK. Methyl Ethyl Ketone. Bloody miraculous stuff. I also used MEK to keep the interior of my many Alfas spotless without fear of removing colour from the upholstery. Remember MEK.

[@bmostert]

Do not use MEK on interiors! I use it every day at work, it’s fine on PP or PE plastics but it melts PVC, ABS, vinyl. If you want a safe solvent for all materials use Isopropyl alcohol.

[@davidporter2770]

@@bmostert I am a motor car enthusiast and have owned many Alfas. Whenever I had a stubborn stain on the upholstery, I used MEK. And no colour was removed. Same in my luggage business, if there was glue on the leather or vinyl or nylon or polyester, I used MEK. For about 40 years without any problem.

[@tommoso55]

I use to use MEK in the print trade

[@graemesadd6971]

MEK is a very dangerous product, it should only be used by professionals under strict ventilation procedures, using full PPE. That stuff kills. Find a safer product!

[@RoryGaffney-c7b]

Joe,we keep same stock levels as you have,we are based in N.Ireland.I am counting the days until all the Landrovers we have sold are out of our warranty.No more,never again.The profit margins dont justify the stress levels!!

[@andrewcairns7719]

I agree, way to risky and Joe is looking more and more stressed in each video 🤔

[@BazDeeWren]

I love that you prioritise making all your cars good before profits. 😊

[@brianjames3849]

Keep yor posting going Joe if doughnuts think you are high peak autos , just ignore them as your channel is more honest and natural, showing us all the pit falls of being a car trader , ps my dad was a car dealer ,trader he had a break down because of the idiots that want to pay beer money and yet expect champaigne, hence I became a plumber ,eh yet another mistake ,when is the water going on or how much .keep this honest channel going Joe, you problems don't like donoughts anyway 😅

[@MrKnucklez1000]

Whats wrong with high peak autos? bloke seems honest.

[@chrisjackson376]

I'm amazed how honest you are on the profit made, fair play to you.

[@domenicoforte1799]

You’re a brave man selling any Land Rover product I’ve personally been burnt once too many times and avoid the hassle.

[@Kingdonnerkebab]

I admire your bravery Joe. All these JLR products even give me the sweats for ya. Good luck you are smashing it and looking very prestige.

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

I'd highly recommend that you ensure those Ranger Rovers don't have Police 'Drug markers' on the cars. A mate bought a 65 plate 320i from Smethwick, turned out to be "known" to the Police and he got some trouble!

[@Rowallancars]

You should do a video of you and Dave Gott comparing your experiences of buying and selling Range Rover products. Dave did a video recently showing all the losses he has had with RR’s.

[@ShiftingMetal]

Just watch our podcast and we talk about it all the time!

[@CarlosFandango1975]

Dave would sell his granny’s zimmer to fund a few more cars but he doesn’t have Joes big boy balls you need to buy Jag landrovers. Rolling the dice is working out good for Joe

[@neilgorin1037]

This is still the knock on from the Covid period. Prior to that an 11 year old car was low in value, but now the same cars are double what they were age for age. The faults are all still there though. I wonder when the lower end of the market will drop? The near new and year old end has dropped back noticeably.

[@WayneMartin-of1ty]

Love people saying you boring them dont watch it 🙄 simplys i think you amazing 😊❤

[@toms4097]

You need your new videographer, Seeker wildtrack, motor trade mentors, dealer chat & now this tonight not to mention the regular BM weekly. #smashingit

[@pauldavison9512]

Hi Joe, i was at your garage on Saturday and saw this Range rover, it does look good.

[@FlightProgramAborted]

Or with a Range Rover badge

[@markturner9809]

I stopped by earlier this week and looked over the RRS - really loved the colour combination and seems to represent good value for money - another good video.😊

[@billythebubble3902]

Can’t resist watching chops garage, High Peak, The Car Pitch and of course Shifting metal

[@flippingcarsrepairs]

And now flippingcarsandrepairs 😂😂😂

[@billythebubble3902]

@fizzog12 seen many KZbin videos of Chris and mr white trainers 👟

[@GuitarCinemaOfficial]

Please do an update video in 6 months time with any warranty claims? Be interested to see if you still come out ahead after CRA obligations have expired.

[@tomoreilly9932]

i always think if someone can't be arsed looking after the interior then they won't mantain the vehicle either,so worth checking out the interior before buying.

[@SG3-wd40]

Not true , I maintain my wife's evoque to a high standard and she just trashes the inside !

[@ShiftingMetal]

Sounds like my Mrs! 😂

[@tomoreilly9932]

@@ShiftingMetal 😂

[@jg4171]

Disagree, just because I don't have time to clean it doesn't mean I'm a cheapskate and won't spend money on maintaining it. My children's safety is paramount so my car best be mechanically bob on but it doesn't need to be sparkling clean, just safe and functional to get them to and from their various outdoor pursuits.

[@topmarques]

I'm in the car business and won't touch any Land Rover product. They have all sorts of known problems and often bite you on warranty after a sale. Easier ways to make a profit.

[@PL-fj4uq]

For that sticky soft-touch material, the cheapest and easiest stuff to remove it is methylated spirit (£3 a bottle), a rag and some elbow grease. It will usually leave the plastic underneath glossy but not sticky any more. We see it a lot with electronics from that era, that otherwise work fine if not for that. It’s so annoying they continue to do this…

[@ianwigg1442]

I love old Range Rovers. Don't know about the L322s onward but the P38s are great cars if you don't use them as a daily driver or don't put much mileage in due to somewhat thirsty nature. Easy to work on, parts are dirt cheap and readily available. Even the dreaded BECM is pretty simple to fault find and fix by anyone with a little electronic knowledge and fairly basic test equipment. As long as you keep up with servicing and maintenance they'll go on forever (well for a couple of years anyway but then you can strip it for spares, scrap the shell, and get another one for pocket money and eventually it's free motoring.)

[@ramalama9650]

You ignored a VERY important rule. NEVER buy a vehicle from Birmingham ... or Bradford.

[@jonathanpork-sausage617]

Walsall. Doesn't count.

[@CookieMonsterawr]

I literally just posted the same 😂

[@CookieMonsterawr]

​@jonathanpork-sausage617 It does snowflake, it's Birmingham.

[@jonathanpork-sausage617]

@@CookieMonsterawr West Midlands. Not Birmingham.

[@stuontwo677]

@@jonathanpork-sausage617 I do believe Birmingham is also located in West Midlands.

[@chandlerbingbong]

I'd 💖 a nice Range Rover, but the thought of having to sell my house and valuables to keep it on the road puts me off.

[@DrBarkles]

Not surprised RE the Evoques… when I was working at an independent prestige dealer in 2018/19 we had loads of issues with them with the diffs exploding…

[@fivedotsdave9723]

There is a recall for lower arms, on certain models, might be worth a check..

[@CheshireCars]

Joe A steam machine is a must for interiors. A Tornador for example.

[@SamGittings]

Even on leather?

[@CheshireCars]

@@SamGittings Yes don’t be fooled with leather. Most interiors are faux leather. Man made. A steam machine loosens up the grime ready for brushing and hot water with something like brisk. Magic sponges providing you use your common sense to stop when you have lifted the grime. You don’t want to remove the colour from the faux leather.

[@liamegan4303]

Hello Joe. I like this Range Rover. It's the Colour I think, and that White Interior looks great 👍👌. Keep up the great work bruv. 🇮🇪🙏🙏👏👏👏👏👏

[@hedydd2]

Check the front upper arms outer fittings for structural dangerous cracking of the alloy around the pinch bolt area. Use a specialist dye to detect cracks if none are obvious.

[@lesbrown5829]

Just a little bit of inf re the Topdon Topscan. It will work fully for the 1st year and then after that its something like £49 a year to keep it fully functional. If you dont pay up it loses a lot of the functions like the EPB reset, oil reset etc.

[@OH2023-cj9if]

Definitely not buying one then.

[@lesbrown5829]

@@OH2023-cj9if me neither. I looked at it and thought it looked really good. It would do all the basic things I want...epb reset, service reset, abs bleeding etc... but I'm only going to be doing these things now and again, so by the time I get round to using some of thes eit will probably have run out of time. Might actually be a better bet just to buy a new one if there is a discount available.

[@parigibelgrado5120]

You are doing great work. Thank you. Very honest. You give people an orientation of how the RR are sold on auctions and what the retail are. Commendable

[@spendc8185]

Hi bud, retired now! but 30 years in the Trade. Have you used B-Kleen by green and gold? The best in the business Upholstery leather Carpets plastics. 40% B-Kleen 60% water. In a spray bottle, unbelievable stuff. 👍 Keep up the great content brings back some fond memories 😎

[@hbguitar]

Nice car and great colour. Would love to drive one but couldn’t bring myself to owning one. Maybe one day!

[@MCS.2012]

Joe its coming back after it sells so don't spend all that profit 👍

[@flippingcarsrepairs]

😂😂😂

[@antonywall7888]

Walsall is to Birmingham as Weston is to Burham 🤬 chalk and cheese, both comparisons. My parents were from Brum and moved to Burham on retirement (not far from the Rosewood) so I have spent a fair amount of time in all 4 areas and Walsall has nearly as many inbreeds as Burham😉

[@farmer6861]

Nice one Joe - I ❤ my 2014 L494 autobiography in Indus Silver and 79k on the clock. FMDSH. 22inch rims and mine’s got Parking Assist as well as all the rest of it. I had Urban at Milton Keynes fit their side steps to prevent door dints. Think that cost me a tad over £500 but so worth it! Therefore I obviously appreciate it when you do RR content 👍 Oh yeah, thanks for the tip on how to clean 🧽 off those weird sticky buttons!

[@jonjon738]

We'll go for a drive, pull over and I'll go through the costs - What am I watching, High Peak Autos ??? If so, you need a haircut, Tommy Hilfigers and a Rolex Explorer II

[@markukblackmore]

Oh well played 🤣

[@Russellbristow]

No way! I find Joe to be a down to earth nice guy! He cant be compared with that chap from High Peak, who comes across as disconnected and distant!

[@CookieMonsterawr]

🤢 HPA is someone I'd never buy a car from, seen how he bodges the cars he gives peanuts for. HPA and Joe are massively not comparable, HPA is repetitive, has a boring script as Joe sells quality used cars, has spent a lot of effort in making the videos, has a on site mechanic and actually is a pleasant trader.

[@andrewcairns7719]

😂

[@harry-james-books]

@@CookieMonsterawr Show us on the doll where Matt touched you mate 🤣🤣

[@WayneMartin-of1ty]

Just a honest guy saying what it is great video again 👏

[@420somewhereG]

Usually just give 3👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻but just once to say really do enjoy the channel Joe and Your team are a great squad all the best for Your futures 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ShiftingMetal]

Thanks mate 👍

[@MizraPaul]

All new Land Rovers built from 1st July 2013 have their full-service history available to access online. All scheduled services, related service items, and body inspections are accessible. The vehicle history is updated each time the car goes to an Approved Service Centre. All you need is the VIN.

[@skodakatie7341]

This Range Rover now looks like a different vehicle, both mechanically and cosmetically. Well done Joe, I hope you get the profit you deserve when you sell it❤.

[@broken12367]

That grease on the buttons and surfaces apparently comes from products people use for cleaning cars. If you use the wrong products they build up to leave a sticky residue.

[@Toolsandtech868]

Good video I've got a topdon topscan I was one of the people that was testing them before they was on sale I'm now testing topdon carpal 👍

[@richard6000]

Amazing, here in South Africa, second hand car dealers Don’t fix anything and sell you a car as is for the most they can

[@MrAvant123]

Auctions can bite you badly ! And if a car is over 4 years old there is a good chance it holds a dark and expensive secret ! Years ago I bought a Maestro at BCA Blackbushe -- on closer inspection everything on the car was worn out past sell by date - managed to offload it at a small loss...

[@mbak7801]

These cars have had problems with spontaneously catching fire. Has it had the recall? Also the crankshafts split in half and the oil pump tends to fail. On a cold start the oil pressure should go to max in around 2 seconds. Any longer and any clattering you have the faulty oil pump design. The first 40K Km you should be ok. After that toss a coin.

[@sophie02222]

Absolutely fair play for this ! I thought these would be a nightmare for you ! Yum sooo laid back bro 😎

[@GordonHunter]

Just been quoted £1900 for lower arms on previous RR Sport (with re-alignment) - surely not the same parts!

[@shifty277]

Maybe more than one lower arm like the S-line Audi suspensions - Main dealers can price suspension arms at probably 3 times the cost you can get the same arm with the original Manufacturer from a motor factors like GSF, ECP etc. If each arm say (4 in total) is £120 each at the motor factors - Land Rover charge for example £300 each. Prob £200 per hour labour at main stealer for 4 hours labour and that can make up the cost. This is all just an example. Ask for more detailed breakdown on the costs. If they don't want to do this take your custom elsewhere.

[@davepearson3992]

I live 2 mins from the place and Walsall is a big difference to Birmingham. No chop shops or no go zones to start

[@dangosypethau]

enjoyed the video again, better than the telly

[@SickWill]

Bit of aftershave works well on those gunky bits you mentioned 👍

[@MrAvant123]

Interesting that Land Rover has to use a complex and unreliable stability system to make the cars handle reasonably while the X3 and X5 handle great just due to good suspension geometry !

[@paulserby2928]

I think the later models were more reliable, I owned a 2017 and a 2020 Sport, had no issues .

[@grahamwright9967]

Love the channel and the content. Best thing on You Tube, keep it coming.

[@ShiftingMetal]

@@grahamwright9967 thanks!

[@JohnPatrickGore]

been around used car dealers all my life and Joe is a super lad really honest guy and would love a job at his car dealers I sold 38 cars month before last for the car drome in Essex got nearly 3k in commission would work very well with Joe keep up the good work mate would like to pop in a see you some time so if u get a chance to read this drop me a message

[@ShiftingMetal]

By all means mate 👍

[@OleGitRule]

Thats a cracking RR - colour will sell that easily, keep up the great content Joe.

[@jarlesol3865]

Thanks for this video, very interesting to hear the prices.

[@darrengent-mn7rw]

Great video , Great profit margin (if all stays well ?)Great car dealer, Great time watching the channel, Everything is just GREAT with shifting motors . Keep up the great work Joe and the team ..

[@AlexLindley-u5f]

Thats the prob with Light Trim ! - only fit for Suited Office Wallers !

[@bryanadams4436]

Cracking podcast as usual Joe well done loving the Rangerovers

[@Bobtheblanker]

Why you buying monster motors ?? When everyone wants cheap motoring !! Toyota aygo !! And the like !!! Great insight on your business!!! Genuine bloke !!! Fair play 🎉

[@ShiftingMetal]

Not sure they do, those sorts of cars don't sell that well with us!

[@malcolmlane-ley2044]

There's no money to be made chasing people who want cheapness.

[@chriswalker4272]

Thank you Sir, that was an entertaining watch, and list of components, all of which are completely useless to a Classic Defender owner, driver and fixer lol. But I wouldn't want to throw 1/2 a ton of dirty deer fencing equipment, or logs in the back of such a pristine palace. These are luxury motors with more fail points than Liz Truss, so the seat module didn't shut down properly says it all !! The new Defender is a very capable vehicle with it's stylistic nod to the past, but like a new John Deer tractor, you are disallowed to repair them yourselves. Which for a Farmer is very bad news, and for an adventurer in the wilderness or remote location a total disaster,; because you just can not fix a new Defender anywhere in the world. But you can fix or get fixed the far more rugged classic Defender, anywhere and by almost anyone! That's the real difference. Self reliance is a part of our British identity, and good on you Joe for rising to the challenge and keeping some of the more fragile Ranges going and harking a living at the same time. Your a true Brit 👍 Classic ruggedness is not what most folk want from a Rangie these days. It's a luxury cruzer and all the bells and whistles to pamper ones self esteem; and a motor that requires a satanic quantity of oil that the owner must never touch, for fear of being burned, in the fires if consumer hell lol. 6.66 Litres, you just can't make that up lol Thanks Joe 😂

[@alanhealey7885]

To be fair saying Walsall is Birmingham is like saying Berrow is western Super mare 😅 😅

[@CookieMonsterawr]

Weston*

[@tonytasker489]

The only good thing to come out of Walsall is the M6 & the A38.​

[@alanhealey7885]

@@tonytasker489 M6 is not good especially around there 🤪

[@tonytasker489]

@CookieMonsterawr you want to spell it Weston, you spell it that way. Well spell it how we want two thanks. In fact. I'll even go the hole hog and spell it western. (And yes. All these tipos are just to pi$$ you of.

[@stephenbusby3521]

That’s an insult to Birmingham

[@topboyuk]

Hi Does that Topscan have a yearly subscription like the others?

[@Craig-c5e]

The body does not come off that Range Rover Sport! The car has subframes not a ladder chassis! 😊

[@henrykravitz468]

Joe, I love the content and videos. It is a really nice car, and I hope it sells quickly.

[@Marshall-AstleyMotors]

Hey Joe, thank you for the Top Don promo code, I’ve invested in one and used it this week, fab bit of kit 👌 love your channel btw, keep up the good work 😃

[@ShiftingMetal]

Awesome, glad you’re liking it! Such good value

[@peteraustin1905]

What a great video, interesting cut in’s drone shots good graphics a well thought out video, and you managed to make money from British car auctions, not an easy task to do 👍

[@mrd64]

Not a Range Rover fan but enjoying the content.

[@pugant]

Hey, I saw the range was in a spot of bother on the M5 today. So close to getting home.

[@markopazlo]

My mate has just got his car from Walsall. By his car I mean the tracker took it to the driveway of someone who robbed it from his house and thought just changing the plates would do 😂

[@Craig-c5e]

Great video! More Range Rover content please!! 😃

[@tonyhaynes9080]

It would, in my humble opinion, look far better in just one colour. That black roof really spoils it.

[@michaelthompson6885]

You are a slippery Lad Joe, dodging the bullets from Range Rover trading! long may it continue.

[@adriancollie1322]

Clearly you're not feeling any of the issues I've heard about with insurance companies raising peoples LR or RR insurance through the roof. A mate of mine had to sell his recently as he's moved to London and was being quoted something like £500/month to insure it. Apparently they're the most desired cars to steal. I can see why as that red one looks amazing.

[@blackdogchris]

Great presentation and breakdown of costs.

[@Shteca]

You know what they say about buying cars from Birmingham… great idea, no one has ever had an issue

[@jamesshephard2013]

Big risk with those RRS, especially the higher mileage 3.0 diesels. Don’t get me wrong, lovely motor but if i was a trader i wouldn’t touch them.

[@davelock3166]

I have an old Defender. I would NEVER buy a modern Land Rover. Unless you can fix them yourself, they are disposable items - so complex and time consuming to repair, you have to get involved with a multitude of equipment and have the knowledge. That is why they are cheap, a fact that as time goes on, there will be a market flood of these vehicles in the future.

[@chriswalker4272]

I agree, have my 300 TDI and a 1974 S3, but these vehicles require a passion and enthusiasm with a bucket of mechanical and welding ability, competent DIY/Farmer Style. But that's not what most folk want from a Range these days. It's all the bells and whistles to pamper and a motor that requires a satanic quantity of oil that the owner must never touch for fear of being consumed in the fires if consumer hell lol. 6.66 Litres, you just can't make that up!

[@AshRowland]

EPB reset is Electronic Parking Brake 😁

[@andrewbounds8672]

Would a top don be able to pair my new brake switch up with my car and how easy are they to use

[@robw6505]

"They were talking Chinese to me" 🤣. 6.66 litres of oil....you'll have a devil of a job getting that right.😁

[@garymorris801]

Nice video mate great value 😅

[@andrewcairns7719]

Nice colour👍🏻

[@CarlosFandango1975]

Wayne would try a magic sponge from b&m to remove sticky switches

[@Len714]

Do you have to pay subscription for the topdon diagnostic reader?

[@ShiftingMetal]

No subscription 👍

[@VisorView]

If they had fitted Toyota engines, and scrapped the idea of over complex suspension, the brand would have retained it's prestige badge.

[@inkomplete2065]

any links on gel sol pleaseeeeeeee

[@fredflintstone1]

Joe EPB is Electronic Parking Brake derr!!!!!!!!

[@stuartdavies5793]

I had a supercharged 5 ltr V8 sport what a bag of sh$t when i worked was so fast but spent more time in the work shop than on the road was so happy when I sold it bought a new ford ranger had it for 3 years now and not had any problems with it at all

[@inkomplete2065]

gel so where to buy in uk please

[@minorityofone1510]

Range Rovers, BMW (watched the 1 series engine failure video today) Among the most unreliable and expensive cars to fix...😳🤔

[@Mozzer1966]

Great contents always enjoy the videos

[@andykeeble1]

I had an ex demo Discovery 3 TDv6 HSE with only a few miles on the clock. It was THE worst car I have ever owned. The build quality was crap from constantly blowing brake light bulbs to the boot release failing, one of the twin horns failing (it sounded like a really shit Korean car when I honked the horn). The paintwork was softer than warm butter and would scratch if I dared look at it. It wore out tyres at around 8k miles. It was brilliant for towing but for day to day use it was better, and cheaper, to fly. JLR are over rated and I will never, ever buy anything from them again. Oh and I forgot to mention that one service cost me over £800 (it was valeted but for that money I would expect a season ticker to a premier league football club). Why anyone would part with their hard earned cash on one of their shit cars is beyond me.

[@phillipclaridge3112]

Nice looking vehicles but because of their complexity, I personally would not buy one

[@andytetlow3600]

Good stuff as ever Joe

[@LondonCarnaval]

Tried to buy the Topdon but unfortunately 😕 i was told they don't deliver to Ireland even if i was prepared to pay for postage 😮😢

[@ShiftingMetal]

That sucks, sorry