Just-Ice Talks Gangsta Rap, Drops New Music, Says Heavy D Jacked Him, Gives Self-Destruction Secrets

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In the Halls of Hardcore Hip-Hop Fame, there stands a statue of a man 6' 3" and solid as granite. That figure is of Just-Ice, a Bronx New York emcee that is heralded as a pioneer of Hip-Hop from the onset of rap music's transition to harder textures.
Chuck "Jigsaw" Creekmur talks to Just-Ice about his new music, namely the song "Get Your Drink On, Get Your Freak On!" which pair the rapper with longtime producer Mantronix. Things get really interesting when Just-Ice travels down memory lane and speaks his mind. He talks about everything from KRS-One to the MC Poet (Blaq Poet) to his relationship to genius producer Kurtis Mantronix.
He also reveals he never met RZA as portrayed in "Wu-Tang: An American Saga," but explains relationship with Popa Wu AKA Freedom.
He say he started gangsta rap, but says Ice-T started making records before him. "I started it, before NWA, before anybody else," he says. "Ice-T started making records before me, but he wasn't talking no gangsta sh#t."
He also makes the startling revelation that Heavy D stole a song idea from himself and KRS-One, a brazen act that upset them both. Nonetheless, he says he has nothing but love for his Mt. Vernon brother. There's a lot to unpack in this interview. Peep it!
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[@KUTProductionz]

"Just Ice and Dmx are down with us- making funky music is a must"- KRS-ONE

[@Phuriusstilez]

I went to old westbury with kool moe dee, and DLB, and Mike Rapaport... Good times.

[@KUTProductionz]

@@Phuriusstilez Wow, now doubt. I was probably a baby or very young growing up in Jersey at that time. Amazing how many "Hip Hop Heads" came out of NYC. And all the connections and links.

[@geosanchez2660]

I never noticed that line.

[@barryjohnson409]

" Golden " 🗽💯

[@2020TYBO]

@@geosanchez2660 YOU MUST NOT BE A FAN OR TOO YOUNG, DIDN'T GO 'WAY BACK'..

[@bonafidesagG88]

Just-ice is my 1st favorite rapper of all time.."Going way back" to this day is still one of the coldest cuts ever!! He a big part of my growing up, from getting girls, smoking my 1st blunt, having my 1st drank the whole 9..I got luv fa dis dude

[@rogue7894]

Yes. For me it was early1986 forward. Man, the memories...

[@GeeMoney843]

I wax and mame, rappers who proclaim to be the epitome of this game/ fronting like your hard, rugged and rough...

[@tooakki]

Yep, I thought Just-ice was better than everybody at that time, including KRS

[@aaroniic]

Cold Gettin Dumb is crazy

[@pjmarc1]

Turbo Charged was the jam.

[@aok1973]

Glad to see he’s still around… 💯💯💯..,definitely a legend…🔥🔥

[@NYKnicks33]

Just Ice was constantly getting played in my 1987 Maxima!!!! Dude is a pioneer!!!

[@nelsonperez8482]

I played it him in my tiel green 87 max too with the rag top,fun times

[@Jac735]

You guys are lucky being alive during the golden times I'm just a young buck born in 89 I actually like 80s rap a little bit better than the 90s but 90s has more bass 🔊

[@pjmarc1]

I still rock Just Ice to this day.. Latoya, Turbo Charge, Way Back, Cold Gettin Dumb, etc. "The most vicious of them all. Cause even when I sit I still stand tall."

[@cooldinaz]

Yes,cause you are hip hop gangster

[@ljoseph6114]

This man is the REAL father of GANGSTER RAP/HIP HOP. No one was claiming it or saying or was calling their music or themselves a GANGSTER. Salute Jus

[@billyjacc]

Well... Schooly D was. Jus sayin.

[@ljoseph6114]

@@billyjacc what song schoolly d called himself a gangster or the gangster of hip hop I’ll give you all year . The Next guy to make a claim of gangster rap was none other than Krs one with ‘Criminal minded’ .

[@Mr.Reckless]

@@billyjacc Facts.

[@jaysupreme7464]

Factz!

[@shaquanthedon6184]

PSK what does it mean? 1985

[@1800BOLU]

ONE THE HARDEST MC'S EVER!!!! HE GAVE RA AND THEM THEIR FUEL!!!!

[@CEENAS646]

Facts bro..Sir Vicious is a legend and a half..great to see him

[@williamlevi5051]

Awesome interview. Grew up in NYC during Just period late 70s and 80s. I’m 55 and come from this same generation as Just. What a great time to grow up in NYC and see the culture grow from the womb.

[@seekingtruthonly.4299]

We loved your shit in New Orleans. We used to break your music down South. You, TLA Rock, Mantronix and KRS. Salute bro, you helped inspire hip hop here and probably never knew it.

[@cmore504]

🎯🎤🎶💯👍🏾⚜️

[@clecquot]

Going way way back to the early days

[@MD-DLive]

"Lyric licking" on the b side of " Going way back", was my jam! Still have that single til this day!!!

[@TeeRock70]

Word... Lyric Licking was that shit.

[@MD-DLive]

@@TeeRock70 someone else knows what I'm feeling! " you know just that, that!"🤣

[@Kayla037]

That beat by Mantronix is one of the best ever. Cold getting dumb, that is.

[@TheFrodiggs]

Cold Gettin' Dumb is one of my all time favs and the album cover is fire

[@patrickgarretson674]

Just-Ice is definitely a legend in the Hip Hop world. ✊🏾

[@rockhills]

Just Ice gives a hell of an interview. He's energy personified.

[@jayo552]

ALL DAY EVERY DAY ,..& HE WILL GET BUSY IF NECESSARY

[@AllHipHopTV]

Please share and like the interview with your people! Thanks!

[@mjeter11]

Just Ice is real. I still listen to Going Way Back. One of my favorite tracks of all time.

[@iGeechee]

I remember meeting Just-Ice in a train station in Flatbush near the Vanderveer housing around 85 or 86. He spit some of the best lyrics I'd ever heard at the time

[@BeyBrightOfficial]

Just Ice was one of the illest rappers ever! As a teenager I loved Just! Cold Gettin Dumb, Latoya, and Going Way Back are hip hop classics! One Love to The Gangster of Rap! 👊🏽💯

[@tonytaino7824]

Going way back!.....still banging this rap/song 2022!

[@bargerkenneth]

In about 1988 I went on a skateboarding road trip with three or four dudes in Oregon, and one of the guys, a rocker dude, brought a bunch of tapes, mostly metal, but one rap album: The Desolate One. I bought that shit promptly and have been a fan ever since. Great interview. And if you haven't peeped Get Your Drink On, Get Your Freak On yet, it's dope!

[@rapsalutes]

"Say the wrong thing the rhymes are over..." Gotta love Just Ice, man. Great interview.

[@doncatalog]

Salute Just-Ice and the 5% Nation.

[@EricAllenJett]

Their new joint.....IS FIRE! Glad to see these legendary Hip-Hop artist's make a triumphant return to this scene!

[@terrytees]

FACTS

[@yo_bro]

Just listened… 🔥

[@terradaktal8318]

Thank you, Thank you, 57 year old man, from Los Angeles and Just-Ice was one of my favorites MCs.. love your music soooooooooooooooo hella dope.. OMG Mantronix..

[@sicilia71]

I've loved Just ever since '86. One of the greats imo

[@simstreeter7563]

This is freaking DOPE 🔥made my whole day!!!! This guy needs way more exposure!!! He’s a true legend 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@49erNell]

Factory.

[@Johnny_Rap]

Good to hear Just got his facts, names & years straight and to see him in good spirits. In the mid 80’s Just was known for the wild stories surrounding him. Enjoyed the interview

[@MegaEmorey]

absolute LEGEND!!

[@rlwhite68]

Man the track was dope Just-Ice I’ve been there from the beginning you’ve always been one of my favorite MC’s all time Mantronix is the first Super Producer of the Hip Hop era

[@godsson7787]

He's second the 1st is larry smith. Do you're research bruh.

[@icu4life240]

Hip-Hop didn't start in the 80"s bro.

[@kingdwight9796]

Just Ice one of the first rappers I ever knew, “ Going way back “ my older cousins loved that song, I was little watching them go crazy

[@barryjohnson409]

Latoya....., Cold Gettin' Dumb 👌🏾 Classics..

[@cowboylemonheadmedia]

Just-Ice doesn’t understand the Icon he is to us true hip-hop heads. When I started battle rapping in elementary, lots of us were trying to be like him. I still listen to his music and know most word for word.

[@MatrixxSoundlab]

First of all, I'm buggin' because I've never heard a Just-Ice interview! And "Cold Gettin' Dumb" STILL has the hardest beats on any record in existence other Kurtis Mantronik's "Air Conditioner"! Thank you for this interview! 💪🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@beatdon7751]

It's good to see the legend looking good and still making music ✌️

[@lizclaudio1133]

One of my faves without a doubt!!

[@moneyhouseblessin]

6th grade my pop copped me a black & gold Fisher dual cassette box with auto reverse, 10 band EQ, detachable speakers AND surround sound for my bday. “Cold Gettin’ Dumb” had me on my soundbwoy killah sh!t. When I pressed play on that joint n!ggaz said I was cheating 😂. Just Ice & Mantronix was the hardest out in 86 🔥

[@55cleon]

YOOOO!!!!! I Was Listening To Just-Ice In East Texas As Kid 85-86 💪🏿. He Was Nothing To Be Played With In The Streets Either 👊🏿👊🏿!

[@richardeppsjr.3897]

Just Ice! Peace to The God.

[@teegee1164]

Man, I miss hearing Just Ice, this is the BEST interview I've seen in many, many years!!!!! Just Ice has always been ground breaking and it's great seeing him get his props!

[@yo_bro]

Cold gettin dumb was CRAZZY when it came out!

[@wayneporteronline]

I grew up on this. This guy I am happy this guy looking well. Justice you are the original gangster off hip hop. Peace.

[@junkandthangs]

He still diesel… there’s a video of him performing recently still got that enjoy

[@bryansimpson8694]

Just Ice is nothing but the absolute truth.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@stackmosayless-1669]

In NY he was the first rapper I remember with gold fronts

[@gsonn18]

I wish I could put Just-Ice brain in my head and see what he saw in the past. So deep man, so much knowledge and history❤ I'm 58 JS so I was there man. I remember your album Latoya. Bamn! By the way, Chuck this is a great interview. You did a great job bruh!

[@kollusion1]

'Funtime!' Poor folk need more blackouts! It's always good to hear the old days stories, straight from the horse's mouth. Great interview Sir Vicious - Cold gettin' dumb.

[@Mayo2014]

“ back when Bambatta was straight “ 👀👀👀 I know ya heard that

[@94shotson40]

😳😳

[@Souljoka]

This what I'm talking bout, 💪🔥🔥🔥

[@teddybrukshot1801]

Silver Fox, just ice, Caz, Kool g rap,ice-T , the original hardest MCs to be at the beginning and Kool G rap still the goat

[@suede100s]

Yo, you mentioned the O.G. Silverfox. The fact that you mentioned him shows your hiphop pedigree. Nuff respect my dude.

[@wesleyrobinson4949]

I'm checking in from Strong Island NY the 🏡 Rakim Public Enemy EPMD Dela Soul Keith Murray Grand Daddy IU Freddie Foxx K Solo JVC Force Leaders of the New School Craig Mack Prodigy from Mobb Deep Biz Markie Method Man Roc Marciano and countless others. I remember growing up during the Golden Era of Hip Hop during the late 80s and during the summer we would have Westbury Day in New Cassell Park in Westbury Long Island which was one of the biggest jams in Long Island along with Wyndance Day Amityville Day Hempstead Day and Roosevelt Day. People from all over Long Island and from the five Boros would come to my hometown to party and vibe to the latest Hip Hop R&B and Reggae joints . When the DJ who was Doctor Dre from Yo MTV Raps who was from our hood would throw on Joints like Latoya by Just Ice or Going Way Back the whole park and hood went crazy . Those classic records we grew up on. Just Ice gave us classics and I remember when Just Ice was on the run he was living in Roosevelt Long Island the home of Doctor J Public Enemy Eddie Murphy.

[@kdaconquerasmooth1863]

I am 53 from the Bronx, I Live in Newark NJ now. I am feeling this interview with one of my Childhood favorite artist and this took me back. Wow!

[@stephenpender2216]

Peace, yeah BK definitely had grandmaster flowers my old dad knew him he was our DJ for a infamous Block party on my block I grew up on Bainbridge street between Saratoga and Hopkinson which is Thomas Boyland now in Bed-Stuy Do or Die Heart of Medina 😁💪🏿

[@magicmike6129]

I remember going to school in Trinidad 🇹🇹 and me and my friends in the back of the class playing BDP and just ice .... Going way back was the hardest song i ever heard at that point. moving to Brooklyn 2 years later and walking into a record store and buying the desolate one. my first album. crazy memories

[@MoneyPlethoraAlways]

Wow Hip-Hop was international back then?

[@magicmike6129]

@@MoneyPlethoraAlways yup we were listening to Dana dane and rapping duke in 84

[@MoneyPlethoraAlways]

@@magicmike6129Ok good to know I was introduced when MC Hammer came on the scene. Some artists have Caribbean origins like Doug E. Fresh, Slick Rick, Heavy D, Special Ed & KRS ONE he's credited for infusing Reggae with Hip Hop

[@magicmike6129]

@@MoneyPlethoraAlways Yes that's what brought KRS1 and Jut Ice to our attention was their reggae infused hip hop.

[@tonytaino7824]

Epic interview....gotta know ya past for a better future.

[@vernard4080]

Nice interview legendary Just Ice!!

[@aaronaverheart4567]

Loving this. I been listening to mashitup alot lately. Dancehall and hip-hop meets up.

[@stefonjackson2154]

"Back To The Old School". One of the greatest Hip-Hop LP's of all-times. Mantronik master the 909. This LP should be in the Rolling Stone top 200 rap LP's of all times. Good seeing Just Ice.

[@martinmagnia314]

This is a blessing Man hella dope ❤

[@leonray6638]

Legend.

[@emblem2425]

"This record you're about to hear The Original Gangster of Hip Hop. Contains CONTAINS explicit dirty lyrics like. " 😄😄😄 Illest intro ever.

[@yo_bro]

Illest. PUT DAT PUTDAT PU PU PU PU PUDAT PU DAT was the joint

[@oh10brwngrl]

"Conteens, contains" I still laugh at that. Some ol' skoo ish for real

[@samuelrux3880]

Whaddup Just Ice! I met you when I was 16 me and my man met you in Fort Greene in 87 and you talked to us! Welcome back bro!!! Hip Hop Gangster!!!

[@robertbryan1758]

That boy Just- Ice tho! Legend🤴

[@onceagain6184]

I met Just ice in Far Rock back in the days , very serious individual .

[@mr.tonyshiphopschool266]

Great interview!!! I was just listening to Just Ice n this interview was on my search bar!!! Just Ice was one of my favorite rappers in 86-88!!!

[@daddyfamlittle6262]

One the best to ever do it! I wear a bucket hat because of Just Ice!! 💪🏾🙌🏾💯

[@TINKYSTEELE]

Wonderful interview

[@terrytees]

Salute Just-Ice, this interview reminds why his such a dope mc.

[@1spTV]

thanks for that interview. just ice is of course a reference for all mc's who came up in my era. (late 80's early nineties in France) I've never ever seen any interview of him. super cool to hear his story. peace

[@100BlaQRaok.el_1]

A totally different vibe in here ❤️🔥👑👑🔥❤️

[@binnybrand2563]

Need you on that krs1 Tour!!! Cold getting dumb!! Need that performance

[@arrellehnisrael8229]

The first and only rapper to ever intimidate me.

[@2creates1]

Cold Gettin Dumb🔥🔥🔥... Sir Vicious🔥🔥🔥

[@Manilow-si2bv]

Great interview very candid allhiphop the site has been garbage lately this was refreshing.

[@kevinforeman4485]

Yall sleeping on Mantronix. That's the man.

[@rogue7894]

Love this. Thank You!

[@YakThaWiseman72]

Just Ice Cold Getting Dumb is a Classic, He got busy.

[@donscabin8105]

Dope dope interview, so educational. Peace to Just-Ice, human DMX and Mantronix. Great to hear that new track also 'Get your drink on' Pure lyrical dope. ...I remember being in Our Price records in London, England where I live and seeing the Just-Ice record Kool and deadly for the first time with all the gold teeth on cover and with the US import sticker. It was pricey, as I was at school still then ...but wow was it worth saving for, especially in contrast to most of the other Hip-Hop record's that were in that store at the time Just-Ice always stood out ...his lyrical dexterity with the dope beat box by DMX and beats by Mantronix. Super dope.

[@hakkimb8913]

Great interview! Peace to the God

[@liteskinnedbobbybrown6256]

Thanks for putting Ice on!!

[@tr8086]

Living LEGEND 🔥

[@lancematthews195]

GOOD TO SEE THE LEGENDARY JUST ICE🙌 I WORKED AT SLEEPING BAG RECORDS FOR A MINUTE. GOOD GUY & COOL BROTHER MUCH RESPECT✊... CAN'T WAIT TO SEE JUST ICE & MANTRONIX - 8/12/ 22 - LANCE ROMANCE 😎

[@mrw3905]

He's right about the nation of Gods and Earths. We're 5 Percenters

[@awaal1600]

Peace. I gotta disagree. Let's take it to the foundation. We still got schools in mecca and medina. Both say Allah's Nation of Gods and Earths. This is NOT slang. The term 5 percenter is slang. The father never referred to us as 5 percenters. He called us the 5 percent. Peace!

[@mrw3905]

@@awaal1600 peace excuse me? Idk who told you that. You obviously are not in tune or never listened to the otisville interview where he referred to the 5 percenters quite consistent. I'm not a new jack

[@awaal1600]

@@mrw3905Peace, not a new jack either, gained knowledge in 85, perhaps I misspoke. Let me clarify. 5 percenter is the slang or colloquial expression that is used to identify us by others and by some of us when speaking to others. Our nation is Allah's Nation of Gods and Earths. My apologies you are correct in that instance, but again that is the slang. Ive been in mad ciphers having that debate about the term 5 percenter. I was commenting on the God saying Allah's Nation is slang. Proper Education Always Corrects Errors. Thanks for pointing out my error.

[@mrw3905]

@@awaal1600 peace however even that point is incorrect. Allah referred to us throughout the interview as 5 Percenters. Also when did Allah say we're the nation of Gods and Earths? Not any of the firstborns or their fruit ever heard Allah say that. And that would be redundant. What about the babies and the human families on the planet earth? They don't count?

[@MegaTonymack]

I use to DJ back then, we played all of just-ice and matronics. Growing up in that time I think that was the best of hip-hop including the ones before them. Just-ice & mantronics was before they time. Salute O.G

[@righteousshadowsdojopt.3979]

Peace to the Gods.

[@sniperjay0916]

Just Ice your an absolute O.G and A true historian of hip hop!

[@BuckheadsFinest]

Just Ice look like he lived every word he every said. #RealRecognize

[@propane718]

Great interview!! Just ice is a real one..king sun too..both like 7 feet tall..them 80s NY ogz are built different

[@stephenpender2216]

Peace, yeah I last saw Justice on Hillside out in Jamaica after he had just came from the gold-teeth spot on Hillside he was getting on the train and smoking a blunt me the outside train entrance,we kicked it for a few minutes 💯 I have fond memories of building with my brother back in the day 💪🏿💪🏿*7) I-Prince Allah

[@extendedplay8830]

Great interview- Respect ✊🏿

[@PayMeNoMind]

There was a day when hip hop fans were looking forward to some new Just Ice dropping! Great to see the Desolate One is doing well! Hate to hear such rejection of current music trends.

[@kryptix5386]

It's awesome seeing these legends drop new music once in awhile Stetsasonic is dropping a new album at some point, and last year they dropped a single. Frukwan/Gatekeeper is still dropping songs under the Gravediggaz name. KRS-One has been dropping albums for nearly 4 decades at this point. It's just incredible

[@SpookOneMusic]

@@kryptix5386 just incase u missed it, PE, Goodie Mob, Paris, Tracy Lee, & Jungle Brothers all dropped new albums in the past 18-24 months. That Jungle Brothers & Tracy Lee is BANANAS!

[@kryptix5386]

@@SpookOneMusic Oh yeah, I know PE dropped a few years ago, and that album was great. It's good to see them still fighting the power 35 years later. I haven't checked out Tracey Lee's new album yet, but I definitely will since you brought it up. Haven't gotten into J.B. much, but it's pretty cool they're dropping new music. Paris's new album was good as well, I feel like he's never really talked about, and it's a shame with how long he's been contributing to hip-hop for.

[@meonly6471]

@@SpookOneMusic Paris Time Dog is the man had all his albums and conscious daughters also

[@theb5487]

Dope interview with one of the best that ever did it, peace to Mantronix. Hip-Hop History 101 is in session for all y’all yunguns: listen to this living legend take you back in time to the origins of the culture. ✌🏽

[@Phuriusstilez]

Love Justice's vibe on this a real down to earth brother, and I still bump his music heavy!

[@cutthroatsawnson9324]

The "Masterpiece" is my top five albums of all times!!!

[@therealfazethree860]

Nice interview, man I rockin Just Ice when I was 13-14yrs old. She Swallowed it...inch by inch....she swallowed it, but did not flinch.....yo!! Love it, great to see Ice back on the tracks.

[@darrellwilliams1210]

One of my favorite MC's, "going way back" I wish you would have asked about the comparisons between the G.O.D and Freddie Foxxx. Both aggressive and down with B.D.P

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

"YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SOFT TO BE FOR PEACE!"

[@velliest]

Loved This! We Need More Of This....The True History Newds 2 Be Told & Heard‼️ Much Love & Respect To The Legendary JUST-ICE💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@ericsnow2069]

This man made Lyric Licking '87 which may have originated or at least pioneered the double time delivery.

[@ampthefreethinker5335]

Facts !!

[@geosanchez2660]

Just ice was dope on self destruction.

[@godsson7787]

Not one bad verse on that fire joint. Mad how I was blasting it yesterday.

[@chrisvaughns7521]

Thank you so much for this interview, I was taken back in time and educated all at once!

[@oh10brwngrl]

Still rockin' Just I.C.E. til this day! The song Kool & Deadly is one of my faves AND Going Way Back

[@tennaj1367]

7:23 the way Ice peaced out DMX (Earl Simmonds) at the end hit me! Mad Respect