Just One More Crown... How NOT to Save the Habsburgs

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[@possiblehistory]

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[@newlineschannel]

PH what’s your opinion on Dutch colonization?

[@DexterLimm]

Can you please do a video called What if everything went perfect for the UK, or What is the Republicans won the Spanish Civil war? You don't have to if you don't want to, I don't really mind.

[@nk47596]

Can you do what if everything went perfect for Ghana

[@Sadnessiuseless]

Don't use my heritage they track this information and they are kind of suspicious due to reasons I cannot state

[@concept5631]

Why was my comment deleted?

[@GioDoesStuff]

Fun fact: 99% of alt history writers are just 1 crown away from saving Austria-Hungary from collapsing

[@rfe3staet]

'' insert diamond mining meme *

[@batuhankavak4796]

Absolutely whimsical good sir!

[@ekesandras1481]

most of them think too theoretically and ignore important facts: a Croatian Ausgleich wouldn't have saved the Empire, because Croatia was not the breaking point at all. Actually the Croatians and Slovenians were the last to go home from the Italian front, because they knew that Italy had territorial claims on their very homeland and they didn't want to leave Austria just to wake up in Italy the next morning. The same is true for the Ruthenians/Ukrainians. They knew Austria was way better than the alternative: Russia The same is true about the Poles. Of course they wanted to recreate a new Polish state. But this was only possible if Russia, Germany and Austria would either accept or all three be so weak that they couldn't oppose, which sounded very unrealistic until October/November 1918. In the meantime Austria was clearly the better choice of the three. The revolution that ended the Empire was actually a communist one, not a nationalist. The red guards and communist agitators toppled the monarchy and this was due to the bolshevik influence from Russia. And Russia wouldn't have been bolshevik if general Ludendorff wouldn't have had the crazy idea to sit this guy Lenin in Switzerland into a train cross Germany. So Ludendorff was the problem. And it was Ludendorff whom the young Emperor Charles dispised the most. Ludendorff had sabotaged all peace attempts and had affronted Austria several times ... just to get a nervous breakdown a few months later and capitulate completely.

[@Kalsington0911]

@@ekesandras1481 in other words, a catch-22. the dissolutoin of the empire was a canon event

[@CurtIThink]

The Austro-Hungarian-Slavic- Bohemian-Slovakian-Galician- -Transylvanian Empire has a nice ring to it

[@kaiserconnorproductions3067]

I’d like to call any alternate reformed Habsburg empire Danubia

[@Canaanitebabyeater]

imagine the german name

[@HungarianNomadNM4856]

​@@Canaanitebabyeater as a hungarian, name in hungarian: osztrák-magyar-szláv-cseh-szlovák-galíciai-erdélyi birodalom

[@Canaanitebabyeater]

@DragonianScythoBoyNm4856 my eyes hurt reading that, thank you.

[@catalinmarius3985]

You forgot Bukovina, that means revolt!

[@alltheclovers532]

They needed Huey Long. Every man a king.

[@alexvlkvkna]

Every man a king For you can be a millionaire

[@Subzero_Productions]

​@@alexvlkvknabut there's something belonging to others. There's enough for all people to share

[@Dude-vq3oe]

But no one wears a crown.

[@IVBW-by8lf]

but everyone wears a crown.

[@joaogabrielimperial7777]

LOL, best joke

[@gualybal]

keep establishing crowns, you'll love this next kingdom

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

HRE 2

[@woodykrska9947]

@@taffingtonboathouse5754electric boogaloo

[@oooshafiqooo]

yay Kingdom of Banat!

[@char1721]

Still waiting for the crown of carpathian ruthenia

[@YoshiYammers]

Still waiting for the crown of Montenegrin Dalmatia

[@joshuacarre06]

The voices in my head told me to truly reform Austria Hungary it should have every town have their own king

[@TheDefaultName]

Every town? Every person should be a king!

[@joshuacarre06]

@@TheDefaultName Huey Long - 1938

[@bartaz6124]

99% of Habsburgboos stop making another crown before saving Austro Hungarian Empire forever

[@oppionatedindividual8256]

@@TheDefaultName only every man

[@irmaosmatos4026]

HRE 2

[@AJOlaks]

So if one crown doesn’t work, and two crowns doesn’t work, and three crowns doesn’t work, surely four crowns will

[@oooshafiqooo]

it wont, we need 5 crowns

[@minilietuvis_]

​@@oooshafiqooonah six

[@Coalislandmutt]

Eleven crowns?

[@ilmarilah1195]

88 crowns

[@oooshafiqooo]

@@ilmarilah1195 88? might as well turn to 189

[@davidebommartini1841]

Bro doesn't want to do a perfect timelime for italy

[@concept5631]

Its like The Exploring Series doing everything possible to not talk about Gamers Against Weed

[@thenamesianna]

The Garibaldi video was enough of a perfect timeline for me

[@davidebommartini1841]

@@thenamesianna absolutely not

[@board-qu9iu]

@@davidebommartini1841 just curious why (tho tbf, Garibaldi Italy isn't really a "Perfect" Italy in any way)

[@det4945]

There already is one. It is called what if everything went perfect for the central powers and its sequel what if central powers won ww1. That is as far as italy can realistically go

[@rewriting-history]

9:11 This is really interesting as technically before the Great War, Austria-Hungary was the second largest country inhabited by Slavs, after Russia. The total Slavic population of Austria-Hungary was larger than that of Bulgaria, which is fascinating to consider. I, like many other people, often forget how Slavic Austria-Hungary actually was. Even Germany had a larger total Slavic population than let's say Serbia

[@patrikmodrovsky1842]

lets just reforme Austria Hungary, to be based around slavs and not Austrians

[@joaquinvideo2959]

​​@@patrikmodrovsky1842So, sense it didn't include the most Poles, and didn't have the Russians and Ukrainians, it would become focused around the... South slavs? Maybe some kinda... Yugoslavia?

[@SuperCrow02]

@@patrikmodrovsky1842What if everything went PERFECT for Great Moravia

[@isthatajojoreference2385]

That's really interesting because Bulgaria is Turkic and will be included in Turan by 2026.

[@gengarzilla1685]

There's a reason the failed painter really hated Austria-Hungary.

[@pyroteknik8415]

Now I really wanted to see a video on how Possible history would go about reforming the Habsburg Monarchy.

[@giovannipeggio5071]

Obviously the plan wasn't followed through, every single man, woman, children, cat and dog should've been an indipendent crown

[@ChatGPT_ChatbotTest]

So, a democracy with extra steps?

[@ProfTricky3168]

So if every man’s a king

[@Randomboi863]

Sounds like communism... so communism would save the empire?

[@salvatoremaglione6398]

Petoria in real life

[@pricel141l]

Every man a king And the emperor bear all the crowns !

[@DeanMonsieur]

Just one more crown, bro…

[@Britishboi303]

Balkanisation time

[@bartaz6124]

99% of Habsburgboos stop making another crown before saving Austro Hungarian Empire forever

[@roiwelboren9302]

"I can quit any time" - DeanMonsieur

[@theblackmailguy875]

I mean breakdown into small administrative units (gerrymandering included) with just one single federal government stands the best chance I would say

[@MyVanir]

@@theblackmailguy875 Except that there is nothing unifying these administrative units, so they will drift apart and seek independence at the drop of a hat.

[@GigaRoman]

I'm... Going to ask again. Whta if everything went perfect for Italy?

[@Oppenheimer.J.Robert]

I'm sure it will be over by Christmas!

[@proton6264]

What if everything went perfect for Greece?

[@NotFunctional-ever]

He'll do San Marino before he even touches italy

[@jovan_64]

​@@NotFunctional-everHe probably will make every single regional italian states before he does italy.

[@JokeJ-1]

❤

[@gintautassickus6390]

18:50 Lets have a poll about this.

[@a8er]

Yes please xD

[@EduardoDistassi]

Yes

[@oihanlarranegi472]

Didn't he already do this?

[@a8er]

@@oihanlarranegi472 I think only about how the viewers would do the Paris peace talks. Not necessarily a more detailed look into A-H specifically

[@gintautassickus6390]

@@oihanlarranegi472 In terms of collapse? Yes. In terms of autonomy? No.

[@fredrikkirderf2907]

I've got an interesting proposal which is 'what if the Habsburgs accepted the fall of the Empire' basically what if one of the Emperors (say Karl I who was made a saint for his commitment to peace) decided that collapse was inevitable and negotiated a peaceful dissolution aiming to prevent ethnic conflicts or wars within the old empires borders (and presumably allowing the Habsburgs to cling onto some form of power in perhaps just in Austria proper).

[@capadociaash8003]

I think it would be very tense with specifically Russia, Romania, Serbia, and Italy wanting as much territory as possible. With possibly even Germany wanting to annex Austria

[@Argacyan]

Like the other comment said, this would lead to even more war. In our timeline the only thing keeping Italy away from invading the balkans was Austria-Hungary & Italy immediately invaded once that collapsed with some imperial territories still around today (interestingly: because Hitler signed it off in WW2 & the allies agreed with Hitler on it). The only reason Austria was not included in the German unification is because of the Habsburg crown owning non-German lands, so in this alternate timeline Austria would be peacefully integrated into Germany plausibly in the 1890s if not sooner - although this would be a permanent & irrevocable integration on equal footing as every other German state. The balkans would also still fall into ethnic violence eventually. Hungary would likely retain its original borders. Depending on what happens with Czechoslovakia you could either end up with a Switzerland 2.0 or alternatively a more isolated war between that & Germany as following WW1 in our timeline many German cities revolted and declared independence following WW1 (the Czech army invaded German-Austria or what would later be called the Sudetenland with only the threat of a British invasion keeping the Austrian army from defending its territory).

[@Kraed3]

your a stubborn one arent you?

[@tompatterson1548]

Probably like Czechoslovakia, but they get Silesia.

[@leomb]

What if every country was a Habsburg crown

[@leomb]

A global HRE if you will

[@leondonmaya8878]

I don’t think it would be more than fantasy

[@ryannathaniel9296]

Finally!!! Imperial China will survive to the Modern Era under the rule of the Habsburgs!

[@voided_sun]

Easy, mine would be called the Benelux

[@jamessloven2204]

Charles V has returned.

[@Toumahitoedits]

Achieve the Danubian Federation a few years before WW1. Difficulty: Impossible, with every nationality in Austria-Hungary bickering and arguing with each other.

[@mariosgame516]

Why all alt-his channels seem to almost ignore Czechia in this theme, it was richest and most industrialized part of the empire, also during this time, it was going thru 'national revival' everyone there was highly nationalist and wanted their own crown at least.

[@glovesflared]

Because Austria would kill the Czechs if they tried it, it wasn't an option in their minds

[@wildfire9280]

Their mouths begin to salivate at the sight of aesthetically pleasing German borders, and Czechia sticking in there looks a lot less like that and a lot more like another kind of pleasing

[@swapnalikarandikar5784]

​@@wildfire9280 dude 💀

[@ogku808s]

@@wildfire9280”another type of pleasing” bro😭🙏

[@cloudyfromtpotreal]

Once Galicia and southern croatia is gone, the Austrians would be far outnumbering the Czechs anyway.

[@thejulinks]

25:36 How on earth does this myth STILL exist? Officers in the imperial army had to be able to speak the so called "regiment-languages" within at most three years of taking command and each and every general had to be able to at least give basic instructions in every language that was spoken among his men. The idea that the big stuffy general from Austrian nobility only spoke German and his soldiers wouldn't understand him is just that - an ahistorical myth. But then again this channel is so often wrong when it comes to topics surrounding Austria and the Habsburg empire.

[@kuro1132]

Yeah, and this myth completely ignores basic military structuring and organisation. Why would regiments, brigades, divisions contain more than 3 or 4 ethnicities? Austria-Hungary was ethnically diverse, but that not that diverse. Only place that would come to mind is Pressburg or Banat, but that's 2 and 3 other languages at most respectively. Though the enlisted men themselves would likely be able to speak at least 1 other language

[@markobucevic8991]

@@kuro1132 pretty much. I come from croatia, here in our history and museums. SOldiers spoke croatian and Italian or Hungarian or german as secondary, depending on where they lived. Some cases only their native language. Did not matter as officers in Croatia. The vast majority knew german. After all, Austria lead the nation despite what Hungarians spoke. Of course they often knew a third language depending where they also lived but the main communication was german between the officers and then they translate these orders to the soldiers

[@josiahcain4176]

Probably my favorite of your videos as of late. I like this videos that examine other alt hist scenarios and approach them realistically, helps flesh out parts of history that are mired in lacking knowledge and messes of assumptions

[@J.MediaVita]

true...

[@GcubePlayer8]

It’s not an addiction they can stop any time

[@Sariellia]

Asking for " what if everything went horrible for everyone after WW1 " What if all countries in WW1 went down the worst possible route post WW1

[@layxproud]

So, Red Flood world

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

@@layxproudit’s just called red flood. Red world is a mod where the Soviet Union wins the cold war

[@maciej4792]

​@@goldenfiberwheat238 is there a mod where d-day fails and europe is communist?

[@Nahwhyisthis]

@@goldenfiberwheat238red flood world as in the world of red flood

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

@ red flood*

[@JustASuperChillDUDE]

18:29 The Holy Austrian-Hungarian-Croatian-Bosnian-Serbian- Polish-Ukrainian-Romanian-Czechian-Slovenian-Slovakian-Italian-German-Jewish-Russian-Danubian-Lvivian-Sudetenlandian- Carpathian-SigmanianKSIan-Loganian-Jimmyian-Lunchlian-Breakfastian-Dinnerian-Hawk Tuahan-Thick of itian- Brain rotian-[Random village turned into a kingdom] x69420- -Translyvanian-Hungarian Translyvanian-Draculian-Austro-Hungarian-Europian-Roman Roman Empire.

[@sethumathavan]

What 🤣

[@SpacetroAAAA]

Ah yes, AHCBSPURCSSIGJRDLSCSLJLBDHTTBTHTDAHERR Empire, I love that nation!

[@thenamesianna]

A similar state to the loved hypothetical "Danubian Confederation" already existed twice. First, as the Kingdom of Aragon. There were the crowns of Aragon, Catalonia, the Balearics, Sardinia, Naples, Sicily and briefly even a few others in France and Greece, united under the Aragonese. All those crowns had considerable autonomy and freedom, and while it was all well and good, it also made it super easy for the country to be split up amongst heirs if a dispute was to come up, thus compromising the unity and integrity of the Aragonese Kingdom (like what happened when Naples was briefly freed from the Aragonese realm). It happened again with de Trastamara and Hapsburg monarchies of Spain, where we had the crowns of Castile and Leon, Aragon, Sardinia, Sicily, Naples, Flanders, Franc Comté and at different points in time even Portugal, Bohemia and Austria. This had the same problem as Aragon, as well ss the fact that, while Aragon, not being that much powerful compared to the other crowns in its realm, could not afford to compromise their autonomy and authority, here Castile and Leon would be by far the richest and strongest crown, which lead them to gradually reduce the autonomy and authority of the other crowns in the Spanish realm until we get to the Bourbons who centralised the kingdom. So, these governments can work, but the crowns have to be balanced, and the country will likely not stay united for long.

[@advikdutta]

Nice!

[@wildfire9280]

@@advikdutta No, that’s France.

[@advikdutta]

@@wildfire9280 I wasn't talking about france

[@thedripkingofangmar6778]

If the De Trastamara had been less unlucky they could have pulled It off I think. Not being tied down to the Habsburg and being closer to Portugal would have been great for Spain

[@Lazardeve_Fr]

A better title would be. "What if everything went perfect for the hasburgs." (There is no saving them.)

[@theblackmailguy875]

HRE 2.0 with hundreds of crowns

[@pricel141l]

The habsburgs could have been saved, because history isn't wrote in marble before happening, but the way Franz-Joseph acted, very self-centered as he was, well aware his personnality alone and the support of Germany were the only things maintaining this mess of an empire together, didn't prevent it at all, it probably accelerated the fall

[@TheAustrianAnimations87]

This scenario was already made. Austria-Hungary meanwhile just comes off as a weaker and less influential part of Habsburg history. Also, there were different ways in saving the Habsburgs.

[@wildfire9280]

There’s like a million PODs you could start from there though. Almost all of them involve the HRE though

[@cloudyfromtpotreal]

He already made that

[@apolloniapythia9141]

In 1906 there had been a war plan "U" (= Ungarn/Hungary). If that had happened then reforms might be much more possible.

[@MinhajM13]

As KSI said, 'Where's my crown?'

[@ishkanark6725]

Where's his crowd

[@TraditionUpholder]

From the Bohemian Crown, to the Slovenian Crown, to the Austrian Crown, To the Hungarian crown where’s my Slovene crown that’s my bling always drama when I add a Slovak Crown

[@luki7614]

From the crown🇦🇹 To the crown🇭🇺 To the crown🇭🇷 To the crown🇨🇿 Wheres my crown🇸🇮 Thats my crown🇸🇰 Always drama when i crown🇷🇴

[@Aranthappyrobot]

21:20 if I’m not mistaken, aren’t Galician Ukrainians predominantly Catholic? Religion shouldn’t be an barrier in there, just gold old fashioned ethnic tensions.

[@alisand]

Not really. They are Greek Catholics. Basically, they are Orthodox who recognize the Pope as the head of the church.

[@Aranthappyrobot]

I always forget there’s more differences in the various rites than just language.

[@Sartricis]

​​@@alisand sure, but his point stands. Byzantine Catholics, despite their different liturgical traditions, are ultimately still part of the Catholic Church. The tensions would fundamentally be way more ethnic than religious, if religion would even play a role at all.

[@floor737]

Giving all the land to Norway would save them💯 (Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway video)

[@Lazardeve_Fr]

17:37 EVERY MODERN EMPIRE IS BACK BABY!!!! YAY!!! THANK YOU PH!!!

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Were so back

[@JokeJ-1]

Love your videos!Get this man to a million subscribers!❤

[@jakeh3904]

99% of alternate history makers quit before adding the last crown to stabilize Austria Hungary

[@theman8421]

I love the way he debunks most alt history scenarios that if you think for more than a second makes no sense

[@Leo-ok3uj]

The problem is that there’s people out there that unironically think that the “we make althistory not altfantasy” gang comes very much to mind

[@t-uxe5539]

What if everything went perfect for Austria Hungary (limited to the creation of the Hungarian crown). I want to see how you would save it PH!

[@jokekopter2509]

Nah,we only need Croatian crown,Croats supported the Empire until 1918

[@pricel141l]

@@jokekopter2509 Considering, as PH said, that hungarians were very unwilling to let go any part of their realm, including ones that should rightfully be transfered (like modern day Burgenland), it's true in the hypothesis that you achieve to convince Hungary to let the croats go (making them loose between 99% and 100% of their coastline) OR, at least, achieve to confront them with the fait accompli of croatian independance, either by ruse (pushing the croats to proclaim themselves their independance), by threat (mayby asking Germany for help, as diplomatically costly it is) or else. Otherwise, you have to either force them (most probably through war) or compromise with them, thus leading to the very probable galician crown which would become a supporter of Hungary against Vienna. And yes, I say "99% to 100% of their coastline" because there's the issue of Fiume/Rijeka, which was a royal city "sui generis" not integrated within Croatia, and so that imo would remain under hungarian rule.

[@Ali_lovehistory]

Can you do a what if iranian 1953 Coup d'état failed video?

[@caioaugustodelfinorezende8676]

I think he did one on Iran and talked a little about this scenario. But it's been a long time I saw

[@Ali_lovehistory]

​@@caioaugustodelfinorezende8676Do you remember the video's name?

[@PingvinAnd1]

12:11 somethings change, somethings stay the exact same

[@KryztovTank]

Hungary being a pain in the ass and a bitch for some form of unity in Europe? I could never think of that.

[@kuro1132]

Keep your Hungarophobia to yourself

[@kuro1132]

​@@KryztovTankOh, yeah, like the Habsburgs sure don't have a history of playing minorities against Hungary. I wonder what the creation of an Illyrian crown for example would lead to 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Comparing Orbán's Hungary to 1867- Hungary? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja]

​@@kuro1132It's not phobia if it is a statistical fact.

[@kuro1132]

@@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja I don't think you understand what a statistic is

[@justthatguy-yq2py]

Video 10 of asking the best history youtuber to do "what if everything went perfect for britan"

[@Mafi43211]

i noticed you marked Kingdom of Croatia of Slavonia , Croatia tehicly became part of hungary by a personal union that why croatia is the only region of hungary with some sort of autonomy

[@Rynewulf]

Oh boy I love that sponsor, where an ai can take the data of my entire family history and spit out a barely legible fake summary for me

[@ericmeans3649]

What if Hungary gained full independence in 1867?

[@bones6448]

I agree that "one more crown" is not the way to reform the empire, but I disagree that post 1867 reform was impossible or incredibly difficult. To start, we need to understand that there are only 4 groups of people that you actually need to satisfy, the Germans, the Czechs, the Hungarians and to a lesser extent the Croats. I think the best way to reform the empire would have been to follow the German federal model in Cisleithania(the Austrian half) and modify it for the Hungarian half. The German Empire was a federal state, with autonomy for the kingdoms and a single federal government. It should have been adopted in the Austrian half, it solves the issues for autonomy while keeping a single federal government in the Austrian half. Bohemia would be given the same status as Bavaria within the German empire, so more autonomy then say Galicia, Moravia or the other crownlands, but still part of the federal system. This keeps the crown part of a single imperial polity. I do not think this would strengthen independence movements, to start, there were none within the empires western half, only reform movements, the czechs wanted autonomy not independence. And I don't think being given a parliament will make them want independence, because every politician in Prague would know that if the empire dissolved, Bohemia would be eaten up by Germany. The czechs weren't disloyal anyway, they just wanted autonomy, and I think they would stay loyal in this scenario. Now for Hungary, I propose that the same increased autonomy given to Bohemia be given to croatia, but croatia is merged with bosnia and dalmatia. This Illyrian kingdom is still part of the Hungarian half but with significant autonomy. And they still maintain a presence in the parliment in budapest. Hungary also needs to be given full male suffrage, the aristocrats were a paper tiger, so it wouldn't be hard to force it through. With full voting rights, the 1848 party would likely lose ground to the liberals and minority parties. I haven't mentioned the poles because they were already the biggest supporters of the Imperial government in OTL. Given autonomy they would be even more satisfied. Galicia doesn't become an issue unless an independent Poland is created, in which case the poles would seek to join that Poland, but until then its fine. I haven't mentioned the Romanians in transylvania because I don't think they are that important, one problem with AH reform ides are that people think EVERY minority group has to be satisfied. This is not true, only the ones with power need to be satisfied. Transylvania is a poor reigon, with little power, and with german and hungarian enclaves. They do not need to be given a federal state, voting rights in Hungary would be enough, there would be some extreme nationalists, but they don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Without a major war, they can't try to do anything against the empire, and considering the amount of ethnic romanians that fought for the empire in ww1, I don't think they would either. So long as the empire maintains prestige and isn't on the verge of collapse, no minority is going to try and break away.

[@kuro1132]

Problem with Hungarian universal suffrage is that upper class people were actually the ones keeping the pro-AH Liberal party in power

[@pricel141l]

The main issue with your idea is Hungary : The hungarian government wasn't anyhow subjugated to the austrian one, it was only subjugated by treaty to the emperor a a joint austro-hungarian government Hungary from 1867 was basically an independant country willingly delegating some of its functions to a supranational entity From this point, any reform within the hungarian half of the empire would have to be done according to hungarians' will or, at the very least, using a way to bypass the need for their approval (german pressure, war, whatever else) Also Hungary would have never accepted to be reintegrated further within the empire, unlike other minorities (notably the czechs), they knew the real power they had within the "Habsburg system" (and know it since the days of emperor Maximilian) and used it very well against changes that could unfavor them

[@bones6448]

@@pricel141l I know that Hungary wasn't a part of Austria, in order to achieve my reforms, well the Austrian half would be achieved just fine, but there would need to be force used in Hungary. And I think that has a very high chance of success because 90% of the Hungarian population couldn't vote, the aristocrats were a paper tiger being kept in power by Franz Josephs unwillingness to challenge them. The moment someone like Franz Ferdinand ascended the throne it would have been over for them.

[@SafavidAfsharid3197]

What if Marathas decisively defeated Afghans at third battle of Panipat?

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

YESSIR! love your Habsburgs videos

[@isaacvogel4117]

The correct type of reforms for Austria would be federalism but not just tied to ethnicity. Federal states directoy tied to Vienna in a Danubian Republik where you purposely mix up various minoroties so even in majority ethnic states, they still only get at most 60% of the vote

[@BrianYabin]

So gerrymandering then basically?

[@pindol69]

@@BrianYabinethnic gerrymandering💀

[@bigducky11]

The Ruthenians/Ukrainians in Galicia were also overwhelmingly Catholic, not just the Poles.

[@adamhaid8612]

*Greek Catholic

[@hendriktonisson2915]

What if Sweden never invaded the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth during the 1650s?

[@Leo-ok3uj]

So… What if the Deluge never happened?

[@hendriktonisson2915]

@@Leo-ok3uj Almost.

[@thecringekid5744]

I remember playing a Vic2 mp mod with some lads. One of the formables was "The Three Crowns", for Austria. The guy playing it quickly turned it into a meme by counting up another crown whenever he got another new country annexed to him and, frankly, whenever he felt like larping into existence another crown from his territories. By the end of the session, he was at 11 crowns.

[@ViceroyaltyofAmerica]

what if here me out, we remove a crown. Maybe the multiple crowns is what messes it up

[@a128k21]

What if we just dont have any crowns instead? That should fix everything

[@FelixGlamsjo-zm9qy]

Timeline where Austria Hungary got extremely HRE-fied/Balkanized

[@BrianYabin]

Yes, every household gets its own kingdom

[@justgaming7679]

I feel like the main problem with federalizing Austria Hungary fully is that the most likely outcome to trying to take anything more than Croatia from Hungary would result in civil war.

[@maxthetube8466]

-Dont rebell, you will get autonomy -But what do i get for not rebelling -uhhhhhhhhhh

[@katsmeydl]

I think National Personal Autonomy, a proposal common among the Austrian Social Democrats, would have worked better than any particular territorial arrangement. The idea being to de-couple national autonomy from the land. It also became popular among the Jewish Labor Bund in Russia, becoming an important part of the Bundist movement's ideas. In Austria-Hungary, it would ensure that regardless of where one was located, they could still hold their minority rights, thus making any nationalist territorial questions far less relevant.

[@ayararesara6253]

21:32 Majority of ruthenians were greek-catholics, only in Bukovina orthodoxy was dominant.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

What if everything went perfectly For austria after the Napoleónic wars?

[@Bingsoc]

Austria trys to do litterly ANYTHING* Hungary: I refuse

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content! Keep up the good work

[@lordvonpozpizil772]

based on the unity in nationalism and votes in reichs parlament the Czechs would get crown before Croatians

[@ksncolt]

I like the Blue Danube Waltz being used 9:00, nice reference to Austrian music! 👌👌👌

[@lincolnrussell8463]

Great edit. Yes, we all know that we often forget to consult the kingdom of Hungary when deciding to have consensual sex.

[@ghostyghost8318]

I would quite like to see a scenario from you where the empire does reform in a way you can see working and/or where Austria-Hungary doesn't happen in the first place

[@thieph]

United Habsburg Empire would have been much, I say this as a romanian. Was a big mistake to betray minorities inside of Hungary and give Hungary equal power to Viena.

[@adikacskaka]

Thanks for covering Hungary accurately! The population maps however should include uninhabitated areas, as most areas in Transylvania colored as if it was inhabited by Romanians weren't , they were hills and empty areas. Or color them as inhabited by Hungarians, this would change the maps and territories in your future possible Hungarys as well.

[@adamperdue3178]

Are there even maps that go into these levels of detail? Finding such accurate maps is difficult even today, I can't imagine that it'd be realistically possible 100+ years ago.

[@waikatowizard1267]

The myheritage bit you did was interesting. I too have Dutch ancestry, mainly in Brabant (well my parents were born there, I was born in New Zealand) but I too also have ancestry outside of the NL, but mine is from NW Germany instead of French. Always found family history interesting to me, with my love of actual history, knowing the events going on when my particular ancestors were alive is fascinating to see. Nice to hear another Dutchie in the world. Came across your channel a couple of months ago, enjoy the videos, keep it up.

[@shimogane2474]

omgomgomg, he is doing a completely historian video, HE IS GOING NUTS Im so hyped guys

[@maciejkamil]

Thank you for such a detailed and interesting video.

[@winterchamois2399]

You should definitely make a video on what if everything went perfect for Austria-Hungary and how you would fix it

[@RealCeress]

Its a much similar situation to the UK Irl with devolution. All it does in break your central authority with minimal benefit

[@pricel141l]

Fact : 90% of austro-hungarian emperors stops establishing crowns right before fully fixing the empire

[@aidanjohnson1105]

What if the Rashidun Caliphate conquered Constantinople?

[@frisomemer1458]

Je moet echt een vid maken waarin Oostenrijk-Hongarije waar het tot de dag van vandaag blijft overleven (You really should make a video in which Austria-Hungary survives until the modern day)

[@BrianYabin]

What if the Habsburgs never gained the Spanish crown?

[@celdur4635]

The Austrian part of the Empire could've Federalized and democratize, while the Hungarians do their own thing, and then influence internal reform from Hungarians and their minorities, to copy the Austrian model. Its not a "crowns" solution, but it is the path the Emperor put them in through universal suffrage.

[@mohamed_alaa-]

scenario idea: what if the if egypt won the egyptian-ottoman war?

[@SerialDesignationIce.34]

I'm sorry for your loss of your grandfather

[@wiel5908]

18:29 peak performance

[@supermaximglitchy1]

Austria-Croatia-Galicia-Bohemia-Slovakia-Romania-Bosnia-Herzegovinia-Slovenia-Czechia-Italia-Germania-Polandia-Serbia-Hungary

[@a.e.i.o.u_official]

I doubt Austrian desires to join Germany were as high as you portrayed. Sure some wanted to join Germany, but the Anschluss also occurred because the Austrians wanted to be part of a mighty nation again. Otherwise good video

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Austria litterally tried to join Germany during the peace negotiations at the end of ww1. The anchluss was not mainly about joining a powerful nation.

[@gmdkrissix1136]

6:25 i love how you said Either?

[@Mundaling]

So, this video begs the question: what if the Habsburg empire reformed to be a true unified multicultural empire before the two crowns compromise, lets say reforming after or during Napoleon

[@aydendejong451]

Hey, this reminds me of some holy empire of Rome backstory.

[@LukaR.1]

Really great video

[@baronnolanvonstraya5743]

just one more crown bro. i promise bro just one more crown and it'll fix everything bro. bro... just one more crown. please just one more. one more crown and we can fix this whole problem bro. bro c'mon just give me one more crown i promise bro. bro bro please i just need one more crown

[@thepeak5819]

4:00 not too sure about that one

[@papagaiofilmes6642]

But i am. He is right

[@thepeak5819]

@@papagaiofilmes6642 Tensions between eastern and western europe are rising, not to mention the whole immigration issue.

[@papagaiofilmes6642]

@@thepeak5819 he is talking about usa not Europe i sincerely dont know the point of this argument. Also the immigration issue is the result of the failure of the American socioeconomic structure to adapt to the New cheap and undocumented labor, which causes unrest with the Native population, not because multiculturalism as an Idea is flawed. Take Indonesia for example. It has 300 ethnic groups with 200 language and dialects. yet this doesnt make it an Austro hungarian Empire 2.0. in fact It is considerably stable

[@thepeak5819]

@@papagaiofilmes6642 i was refering to Europe as a failed project of multiculturalism.

[@papagaiofilmes6642]

@@thepeak5819 ok got what you mean now. My point still stands though.

[@jakobmcalister7996]

18:29 “you achieve peak Austria Hungary” Me: dies

[@DakuHonoo]

How is the USA an example of working multi-culturalism? what the melting pot of the US at least used to do succesfully was make people of various backgrounds adopt a new, singular identity/culture, the american one - I absolutely disagree that that's multiculturalism.

[@Dhaiky]

Not too big fan of this video, I mean, all the issues stem from in short the Austrian-Hungarian compromise, why does all divergence point start after this? What if it started in say 1821, 1836 or something? Way before the compromise? Surely there is a possible way to save the emprie before the compromise. But I do agree, after the compromise it was more or less impossible.

[@beepbop6542]

Before the compromise, there's no such thing as "Austria-Hungary", it is just Austria ruling Hungary and co.

[@oceanianiccaptain]

The flag I made! Glad to see it being used!

[@shineshrinepl]

nice job on the sPHonser

[@Mindfr3k24]

What if everything went perfect for Hapsburg Spain or Bourbon Spain?

[@theunknownpersonism]

Bourbon Spain is still ongoing.

[@gengarzilla1685]

Their situation is hardly a "perfect" one, being installed at the will of the Francoist dictatorship and now being likely the most disliked extant monarchy of Europe, according to its population. Bourbon Spain might he ongoing now but they can become far better in alternate history.

[@BrianYabin]

Let's not forget Trastámara Spain

[@soanyway6746]

3:22 Hang on a minute, Volendam? IVE BEEN THERE I KNOW WHERE THAT IS OMG [Freaks out in Papiamentu]

[@coltydoodledoof8237]

19:50 I have an idea, put all of the Slavs in Croatia and make a sovereign avid crown BUT Hungary doesn't lose ANY territory making it smaller, then we put all Slavs like Polish, Ukrainian, and Slovak people into the new Slavic state, then Galicia gets Romanians and Czechs making a new crown. This would require moving ethnic minorities into other parts of the empire which is unethical, but it could've worked.

[@tenanaciouz]

its not that unethical if the other choice is them killing each other over land disputes or general inability to get along

[@pilum3705]

Just a quick correction: A small number of Ukrainians within the Empire were actually Orthodox, most were Greek Catholic.

[@torokkecske-tv]

Just a quick correction: Rusyns were mostly Greek Catholic

[@pilum3705]

@ Of course, most Ukrainians as well though.

[@grant8525v3d]

What if everything went perfect for Medieval France?

[@thecringekid5744]

12:08 "The fundamental issue is Hungary" GIGABASED

[@manend2]

A change in identity to unify them. Like going from the Austrian Empire, to the Danuban Federation Unifying based on how they all rely on that one big river, the Danube, which would even open up other kingdoms to join for that reason too. It would likely mean the death of the Monarchy, or it becoming Semi-Constitutional like Germany or Fully Constitutional like Britain

[@romangonzalez4949]

The question of ethnic territorial autonomy within a country is still relevant today. Ethiopia adopted a federal system a few years ago, where each of the larger ethnic groups gets its own state. Instead of resolving tensions, it created new problems regarding the extent of the power of the new state governments, and multiple separate civil wars have resulted from that. Real solutions should always focus on making both the general society and central government of a country more inclusive and equal for all of its ethnic groups.

[@otherhouse]

What if everything went perfect for Finland?

[@commanderponds8308]

Can you do a “what if everything went perfect for Sweden”?

[@ParseeAikoku]

18:36 I love this part

[@cascadianlarper]

What if Japan failed to modernize like it did in our own timeline? It’s something that’s not really explored from what i’ve seen. Sounds cool to do.