What If the 1956 Hungarian Revolution Succeeded?

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@Thebiggerfish11
@Thebiggerfish11 5 ай бұрын
My grandfather was one of the Hungarian rebels. He managed to escape to Austria on a bus. The only reason he wasn’t caught was because the Russian soldier checking identification got bored and left the bus before he reached my grandpas seat.
@PCLprecutlion
@PCLprecutlion 5 ай бұрын
Your grandpa is sure is lucky...
@friedchicken9973
@friedchicken9973 5 ай бұрын
you wouldnt be here if he didnt get bored
@tengia7927
@tengia7927 5 ай бұрын
Great news, but not russian, soviet soldier.
@ivankolinic5679
@ivankolinic5679 5 ай бұрын
That is some insane dad lore bro
@Yoyiiii
@Yoyiiii 5 ай бұрын
bless your grandpa
@321valaky9
@321valaky9 5 ай бұрын
About the Stalin statue. My grandfather sawed off a part of it and he still has it. He also told me that when he was going home from school he saw tanks rolling out of a Soviet base on the first day of the revolution.
@somerandofilipino6957
@somerandofilipino6957 5 ай бұрын
Based grandpa
@BrMappings
@BrMappings 5 ай бұрын
​@@somerandofilipino6957frfr
@laszlokocsis2855
@laszlokocsis2855 5 ай бұрын
Your grandfather is a good man
@Roland6733
@Roland6733 5 ай бұрын
Lmao
@aronhajnal29
@aronhajnal29 4 ай бұрын
W nagypapa
@GAO9563
@GAO9563 5 ай бұрын
"A nation was called for help,and the world just watched"
@degeneracywatch5450
@degeneracywatch5450 5 ай бұрын
Did they expect "the world" to accept getting nuked?
@nikocat2008
@nikocat2008 5 ай бұрын
​@@degeneracywatch5450 Ukraine is the same situation right now.
@goosequillian
@goosequillian 4 ай бұрын
@@nikocat2008 How? NATO have been supporting and supplying Ukraine ever since the beginning of the invasion. On the other hand, Hungary received ZERO support.
@dretax14
@dretax14 4 ай бұрын
@@degeneracywatch5450 in 1956? lol
@dretax14
@dretax14 4 ай бұрын
@@nikocat2008 stop being a meme plz
@lucaventinove3151
@lucaventinove3151 5 ай бұрын
Another interesting effect of a successful Hungarian Revolution is, surprisingly, in Italy. Without the Soviet intervention, the left-wing alliance of the Italian Socialist Party and the Italian Communist Party would have remained, at least for some more years. This would have had massive implications for Italy and the West as a whole, considering that Italy had the biggest and most popular communist party in Western Europe (aside San Marino). Surely in the short term the alliance between the Italian Socialist Party and the Christian Democratic Party wouldn't happen, thus changing a big part of Italian political history until 1968. At that point it'd be interesting to see if the Prague Spring (if it happened at all in this timeline) would do what the 1956 Hungarian Crisis did in our timeline for the leftist coalition in Italy. It is possible that at that point the Italian Communist Party would have distanced itself from Moscow enough to keep the coalition stable and that could mean a communist lead government in the 70s (when in our timeline the PCI reached it's peak in popularity, becoming the first party in Italy for two consecutive elections). That could have caused either an anti-leftist coup akin to what happened in Chile and Greece, or, if the West decided to allow the government to exist, it would have probably marked a new era of European leftist politics. Maybe Eurocomunism, or Eurosocialism would have been more popular and the Western half of the continent would have been changed too
@xano2921
@xano2921 5 ай бұрын
The US would've never let it happen, they got their hands dirty in the internal politics of every country they deemed "theirs". With the Operation Stay-Being, in Italy called "Gladio" they never allowed communists to get to the government, and sponsored multiple attempts at coup-de-êtat by fascists.
@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450
@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450 5 ай бұрын
Maybe if the PCI's coalition partners forced them to stay in NATO or the EU, maybe Eurocommunism and socialist currents would be seen in a better light across the Western world, maybe a successful Pro-Western yet Communist-Socialist government would do away with the Red Scare at least a tiny bit.
@thediethrower1803
@thediethrower1803 5 ай бұрын
Now that'd be neat. And, a lot better then the current issues in Italy (the far-right is getting WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much power).
@saintekweena795
@saintekweena795 5 ай бұрын
@@thediethrower1803 any power is too much for the far right.
@thattigercat
@thattigercat 5 ай бұрын
@@thediethrower1803 Any level of what communists call "far-right" is better than literal communists in power
@Mortiusz
@Mortiusz 5 ай бұрын
My grandfather was 9 during the revolution. He was in a children's home when the soviet troops started storming the city. A few soldiers even approached the children1s home too. HE was in the kitchen, dishing plates, when a soviet soldier rushed in the kitchen and immediately grabbed his gun and aimed at my grandpa, because he thought that he is making landmines. luckily he didn't get harmed and continued to live his life. Currently he is 77 years old, has a loving family, and had an adventurous life.
@JawnMarston
@JawnMarston 4 ай бұрын
A 9 year old makimg landmines? Thats crazy💀
@Mortiusz
@Mortiusz 4 ай бұрын
@@JawnMarston it wasn't an uncommon thing, that sometimes children or mostly teenagers helped to make landmines. If the fighters didn't have anything to repell the soviet attack, they used plates as a distraction. Later on, the soviet troops realised that these "landmines" were actually harmless.
@MichalKolac
@MichalKolac 5 ай бұрын
Next is 1968 Prague spring
@DinoRicky
@DinoRicky 5 ай бұрын
Yeah it affects something somewhere
@padinspi11
@padinspi11 5 ай бұрын
And then 1953 East German uprising
@Okos-anim
@Okos-anim 5 ай бұрын
True
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 5 ай бұрын
What if Alexander Dubček’s reforms were successful
@Zumba_
@Zumba_ 5 ай бұрын
As a Czech, yes.
@lordbuckethead6865
@lordbuckethead6865 5 ай бұрын
The 1956 revolution was crazy. My grandfather was 12 and his best friend was shot next to him. He barely escaped being killed.
@DinoRicky
@DinoRicky 3 ай бұрын
That’s sad his friend died Happy he survived
@lordbuckethead6865
@lordbuckethead6865 2 ай бұрын
@@DinoRicky thanks 🙏
@sentinel_kronos839
@sentinel_kronos839 5 ай бұрын
I love the idea of a neutral Germany being united. Since the split would have been very short the east west split in culture and economy/infrastructure etc. would be basically nonexistent
@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450
@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450 5 ай бұрын
It would be an interesting change to German politics as well. The SED would coexist with the SPD, and since it is likely reunification would have to have a democratic government in place, the SED could become a far stronger version of the Die Linke or PDS. One could see an Italy-style situation where the SPD and SED gain enough seats in the 60s, with Brandt becoming chancellor during the '61 or '65 elections with SED as a coalition partner. Or if SPD-SED relations were still too strained, then the GroKo would still be formed, just maybe without the FDP. That could have consequences for FDP and make them a much more minor party. Maybe they become desperate enough that they align with Counterculture and absorb most of it, becoming a libertarian green party. The possibilities are endless!
@derorje2035
@derorje2035 5 ай бұрын
it is very unlikely. Stalin tried that already in 1952(->Staline note). Not only did the western allies oppose ist, the ruling West German Conservatives opposed the note. And because the Social Democrats (who were in favour of the note) didn't come to power until 1969, unification would be almost impossible.
@DinoRicky
@DinoRicky 5 ай бұрын
0:01 hello timed viewers His maps are getting better by the day!
@reMote_prototype
@reMote_prototype 5 ай бұрын
Ja
@Sleve_McDichael1
@Sleve_McDichael1 5 ай бұрын
The MD pfps are making their way into the historical section of KZbin
@Nowhereman-dk6ew
@Nowhereman-dk6ew 5 ай бұрын
Based N enjoyer
@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450
@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450 5 ай бұрын
Malenkov becoming Soviet leader is something you or AlternateHistoryHub has to cover. It changes the Cold War in so many ways and has so many possibilities of from no/less destalinization, a better soviet economy, a neutral wall, no Sino-Soviet split, better US-USSR relations, no communist Cuba, no Soviet grain imports, and excetra that could cause so many ripple effects in so many areas it is insane. I don't know why this point of divergence isn't covered more.
@velnz5475
@velnz5475 5 ай бұрын
I find it more likely Cuba likely still would fall to Castro if only at least briefly and Malenkov mediates a situation as a result of the US still placing missiles in Turkey
@maciejbala477
@maciejbala477 5 ай бұрын
yeah Malenkov definitely sounded interesting in many ways and very different, can see why you'd say that
@oneofmanyBernkittens
@oneofmanyBernkittens 5 ай бұрын
You making a mistake thinking China-USSR relationship was dependent on a soviet leadership.
@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450
@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450 5 ай бұрын
@@oneofmanyBernkittens I understand it depended mostly on China going off and doing other things without telling the Soviets, but I think the destalinization spooked Mao a bit.
@oneofmanyBernkittens
@oneofmanyBernkittens 5 ай бұрын
@@thatguywhosenameyoukeepmis9450 there was a strong movement within the country to regain the territories unjustly lost during the Qing period. Mao never clearly commented on what was happening, but he also did not forbid it, giving tacit approval to the guerrilla war. The conflict lasted for more than 10-15 years, keep this in mind too.
@Riddleiculous632
@Riddleiculous632 5 ай бұрын
nice video! SUGGESTIONS: What if Hohenzollerns were put in Spain? What if the Crusades succeeded? What if WW1 started over Agadir? What if the Republicans won the Spanish Civil War? What if the Anglo-Dutch union lasted longer? What if William the Conquer failed? What if Napoleon had exploded on Christmas night, 1800? What if the Mensheviks took power in Russia? What if Trianon failed? (hungarian communist favour) What if Italy never unified? What if Sweden joined the Central Powers? What if the Megali Idea succeeded? What if the Safavids defeated the Ottomans? What if Germany became communist after WW1?
@The_Great_Mahratta
@The_Great_Mahratta 5 ай бұрын
They're so cool
@petermatthewnewman6120
@petermatthewnewman6120 5 ай бұрын
Damn these are good
@wiseibis
@wiseibis 5 ай бұрын
a more interesting russia scenario would be “what if lavr kornilov’s coup attempt against the russian provisional government succeeded” it would be interesting to see how world history would be affected if russia was a far-right military dictatorship instead of being a far-left dictatorship. @ender5466
@MarkoKostelac
@MarkoKostelac 5 ай бұрын
Serbia winning the Yugoslav wars is the most unrealistic. With seeing the atrocitties commited by the Serbs the international community wouldn't allow Yugoslavia to ever exist again.
@rowangamertv4348
@rowangamertv4348 5 ай бұрын
the napoleon explosion was already done by althistoryhub or something like that
@Cooom
@Cooom 5 ай бұрын
Saying the 1956 Hungarian revolution wouldn't have caused big changes in the Cold War is just crazy to me. The entire event sent Shockwave through the western left which were some of the biggest drivers of social change during the 60s and 70s
@PrussianGeneral1815
@PrussianGeneral1815 5 ай бұрын
Uhrm excuse me ☝️🤓 it is Cold War, not civil war
@Cooom
@Cooom 5 ай бұрын
@@PrussianGeneral1815 Close enough
@PrussianGeneral1815
@PrussianGeneral1815 5 ай бұрын
@@Cooom true, just wanted to be annoying 🙃
@U.Inferno
@U.Inferno 5 ай бұрын
It's the entire reason why have the term "Tankie." It was a pejorative term made by British socialists towards other British socialists who supported the soviet response.
@boldizsarkozma635
@boldizsarkozma635 5 ай бұрын
My grandma was 20 back then and she was on the demonstration, she doesnt wanted to stuck in the big crowd so she went ahead of it and thats when behind her the soviets shot into the crowd without any warning, it was horrifying even just hearing about it, she also told me that Budapest was in greater ruins than during ww2, she is still alive today thank God
@gergelyritter4412
@gergelyritter4412 5 ай бұрын
I thought it was a commonly accepted fact, that the US, UK, Frqnce and the USSR had an "agreement" to look the other way when it came to the other's conflict. So basicly the west wouldn't do anything in Hungary and for this the Soviets wouldn't do anything in Egypt.
@badart3204
@badart3204 5 ай бұрын
Eh, US and USSR heavily pressured the UK and France into backing down. They definitely didn’t look the other way it just was behind closed doors
@StrugglingWithMyIdentity
@StrugglingWithMyIdentity 5 ай бұрын
My great grandfather was on of the Hungarian rebels he managed to escape to Austria when he was 16. He was in Austria for a year almost two. He told me he’d worked there for a while because he hsd left most of his stuff in Hungary (he lived in the part near Ukraine Slovakia). After awhile he made it here to Canada.
@skoms2024
@skoms2024 4 ай бұрын
What is his village’s name?
@squish2108
@squish2108 5 ай бұрын
Maybe the Hungarians could've succeeded if they just used NordVPN to protect their virtual browsing
@LongingSubset9
@LongingSubset9 5 ай бұрын
And if Nagy had signed up for Curiosity Stream, he could've learned about khrushchev's plans earlier and would've gotten a month off from his subscription with the code 'SUEZ'.
@DonatoPanico-km2jq
@DonatoPanico-km2jq 5 ай бұрын
XD
@BenedekPatthy
@BenedekPatthy 5 ай бұрын
As a Hungarian, I totally agree.
@TracerX
@TracerX Ай бұрын
XDDDD Im using Proton.
@xenoph9380
@xenoph9380 5 ай бұрын
Brahms' Hungarian Dances in the background is a nice touch, well done!
@ATTP-YT
@ATTP-YT 5 ай бұрын
Great video! But one small mistake, two actually. It is Nagy Imre in Hungarian because in Hungarian the first and last names are swapped. And the 'gy' in 'Nagy' isn't like a 'g', it's a different letter in Hungarian. The maps are getting so much better. Keep it up!
@etele2613
@etele2613 4 ай бұрын
Nadj
@blueninja3630
@blueninja3630 5 ай бұрын
Do this with 1848 too please 🙏🙏
@akosmolnar9361
@akosmolnar9361 5 ай бұрын
Against the Habsburgs? Hungary could have won, if the russians didn't come. But in the end we became Austria-Hungary in 1867.
@19Crusader91
@19Crusader91 4 ай бұрын
​@@akosmolnar9361And it was an absolute fucking disaster.
@kocaka69
@kocaka69 5 ай бұрын
Very good video Video Idea: What if Bulgaria joined Yugoslavia during the cold war
@Magicboi69420
@Magicboi69420 4 ай бұрын
My grandpa was sent out by his parents to buy bread on the day of the revolution (they always sent their children because the russians never shot at kids) and he saw a tank rolling on the street. The tank pointed it's gun barrel at him to scare him off. It worked, and grandpa ran all the way home even though he had a pebble in his shoe. The scar the pebble left on his foot was visible until the end of his life.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 5 ай бұрын
Suggestion: What if everything went perfectly For spain
@Tridentofmemes
@Tridentofmemes 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@eufrozinak9461
@eufrozinak9461 5 ай бұрын
you mean what if the CNT-FAI never ended and got the whole peninsula?
@gengarzilla1685
@gengarzilla1685 5 ай бұрын
I almost misread this one as being about the 1848 Hungarian Revolution. That little event being successful could probably necessitate its own video because of the staggering implications it has on Austria's empire and the European continent.
@neongarbage6293
@neongarbage6293 5 ай бұрын
I hope this means we avoid the last 30 years' political brainrot🤞🙏🇭🇺
@WalkablePenny
@WalkablePenny 5 ай бұрын
I found this 12 seconds after it was uploaded ;)
@Rudnaz_127
@Rudnaz_127 5 ай бұрын
Found this 4 minutes after :).
@berbrick1902
@berbrick1902 5 ай бұрын
Found this 12 minutes after :).
@barsukascool
@barsukascool 5 ай бұрын
I apllaud you all.
@GeoSubs69
@GeoSubs69 5 ай бұрын
I found it 16 minutes after :).
@squish2108
@squish2108 5 ай бұрын
22 minutes
@Emoboy96
@Emoboy96 5 ай бұрын
Ahhh, finally, my glorious home land gets it's own video 😎😎😎🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺
@MichalKolac
@MichalKolac 5 ай бұрын
Southern slovakians......
@Rudnaz_127
@Rudnaz_127 5 ай бұрын
@@MichalKolac Western Transylvanians...
@memelord696
@memelord696 5 ай бұрын
Eastern Austrians...
@Mici
@Mici 5 ай бұрын
“glorious homeland” lmao
@Boti-vr5hv
@Boti-vr5hv 5 ай бұрын
​@@MichalKolacbro, slovakia was under hungary in 99.99% of its lifetime
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 5 ай бұрын
I could see Hungary becoming a great economic, if not diplomatic, partner of Yugoslavia in this timeline
@mastermindd
@mastermindd 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this interesting video! Greetings from Hungary
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 5 ай бұрын
Thanks For this! Love your content guys 😊😊😊❤❤❤
@Iosifplays.
@Iosifplays. 5 ай бұрын
As always,hungary stepped up against their oppressors(back then against Austria),but lost....badly 😢
@Voided191
@Voided191 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating scenario about an underrated topic, I love it
@tymonmlyn
@tymonmlyn 5 ай бұрын
Little correction about Poland in 0:38 . Man in the picture is Bolesław Bierut, a staunch Stalinism. He actually ruled for 3 more years after Stalin's death (where for an example city of Katowice wa renamed to Stalingród) and died in 1956 in Moscow (it was after Khrushchev's famous "On Cult of Personality" speech) that he died. After that Edward Ochab became the leader of PZPR (Polish communist party) and he was the one who got deposed after the 1956 protests in Poznań. The 1956 protests where (in my opinion at least) more economically oriented rather than politically (though any protest at that time was anti-goverment either way) so I wouldn't say the choice of Gomułka was due to people. Rather it was the choice done by more moderate part of PZPR (know as Puławianie) which decided on it. I know this is a small oversimplification but as a Pole I felt a need to correct it.
@BinodDevkota-ho1xf
@BinodDevkota-ho1xf 4 ай бұрын
Video idea: What if the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1912?
@olcsi_pro
@olcsi_pro 5 ай бұрын
Ty bro to made this video. U can make other vodeos about Hungary, pls?
@PoliticsHurt
@PoliticsHurt 5 ай бұрын
I think Hungary might in strange scenario create a post-soviet eastern bloc, States like East Germany and Romania might try to make free elections (leftists only ofc but now not controlled) and slightly liberalize the economy. These Nations most likely still fall & their communist economies, but there is the off chance that these states follow the example of Hungary.
@TurkishDebater
@TurkishDebater 5 ай бұрын
The next video should be about what if the Russians or the English converted to islam. The british caliphate sounds so sureal, and so does the Russian caliphate.
@maciejbala477
@maciejbala477 5 ай бұрын
Britain probably wouldn't happen, it'd be weird and pretty geographically isolationist of them to do so, considering that converting is often primarily a political move. But for Russia, I believe AlternateHistoryHub did a video on Rus converting to Islam
@bossy1496
@bossy1496 5 ай бұрын
bad ending
@TurkishDebater
@TurkishDebater 5 ай бұрын
@@bossy1496 as if Christianity itself made these countries the world hegemon after the moment they converted.
@shaedon
@shaedon 5 ай бұрын
Brits will convert in 10-12 years
@infinitemkh7598
@infinitemkh7598 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Glad I found it early :D
@tamaz88
@tamaz88 5 ай бұрын
This is the way you summon 9,2 million central european people
@mariosgame516
@mariosgame516 5 ай бұрын
What if Prague spring successed or Czechoslovakia defended itself from 1968 invasion.
@leventeharsanyi9354
@leventeharsanyi9354 5 ай бұрын
Thx for the video ❤
@BagofBeans1
@BagofBeans1 5 ай бұрын
An interesting tidbit I read from John G. Stoessinger's "Nations in Darkness", written around 1971, illustriates the illusion of the soviets simply backing down still being prevalent. I wonder how having the deal be public would shape foreign relations, perhaps making the USA and USSR seem more like equals? Also, given a "Neutral Curtain", There might be a much more nuanced discussion on the topic of Capitalism vs Socialism, so you could see more figures like Bernie pop up in the modern day, or even earlier! Great video!
@quinzys1729
@quinzys1729 3 ай бұрын
great video was entertaining af!
@BRAINDEADWASTAKEN
@BRAINDEADWASTAKEN 5 ай бұрын
Its a great day when PH uploads :) keep up the great work
@Freakystories1-p8k
@Freakystories1-p8k 5 ай бұрын
PH doesn't stand for possible history...
@garry_9-k1i
@garry_9-k1i 3 ай бұрын
My family were both Hungarians and Ukrainians, meaning there is a high chance I had relatives on both sides My Great Grandpas would be rolling in their graves knowing they fought and ended up having 1 common descendant
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 5 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff!
@iamasalad9080
@iamasalad9080 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what would've happened if Sablin reached Leningrad.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 5 ай бұрын
He’d try to dock and then the military would sink him
@peterlustig4300
@peterlustig4300 5 ай бұрын
Does someone have the name of the music from 11:00 onward?
@GyörgyMátyás47
@GyörgyMátyás47 5 ай бұрын
Can you also do what if Hungary won the 1848 war of independence.
@evanhubbard8776
@evanhubbard8776 5 ай бұрын
Can you do what if everything went perfectly for imperial Japan?
@mariosgame516
@mariosgame516 5 ай бұрын
Video 2 of asking for What if Habsburgs never rose to power and thus Austria remained Premyslid/Bohemian
@AJ1770s
@AJ1770s 5 ай бұрын
We need videos like this for all the western block revolution
@dblum
@dblum 5 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on what if the Little Entente helped Czechoslovakia?
@glxyzera7532
@glxyzera7532 5 ай бұрын
hey ph, could you put the music you use on the description? or atleast give me the name lol, cuz i'd really like to have those songs in my playlist
@nightspawnson-of-luna4936
@nightspawnson-of-luna4936 5 ай бұрын
18:00 So, this basically sounds kinda like how Panem works in the Hunger Games?
@gualybal
@gualybal 5 ай бұрын
it would probably affect something somewhere in the world at a time
@DinoRicky
@DinoRicky 5 ай бұрын
Yeah
@axelven8080
@axelven8080 5 ай бұрын
NAHHHHHHHHHH
@axelven8080
@axelven8080 5 ай бұрын
Bros got youtube💀
@axelven8080
@axelven8080 5 ай бұрын
sorry it is of been a while my discord account got hecked yesterday
@gualybal
@gualybal 5 ай бұрын
@@axelven8080 ottovonosman jumpscare
@HeroNotFound05
@HeroNotFound05 5 ай бұрын
Is there any way you’d do a scenario where the Aztec or Inca empires survive colonialism? Or even end up in an India like situation?
@petrakristalova6089
@petrakristalova6089 5 ай бұрын
Idea: what if Czechoslovakia did the same (i think its 1969, when every wp member exept romania, who didnt want to and east germany, who was not allowed to by the ussr, invaded bcs we tried to do so)
@moderpiglin2174
@moderpiglin2174 5 ай бұрын
At first the thumbmail wouldn't load, so that I could only see the title. I thought it would be about the communist hungarian revolution after WW1. I think that the 1956 scenario is much more interesting but would also love to see a scenario about the Communist Revolution.
@NovikNikolovic
@NovikNikolovic 5 ай бұрын
What if all the Warsaw Pact nations became SSRs in the Cold War (except maybe East Germany)? I'm not sure what would be the best time for the Soviets to try this, but I'm hoping you'd know.
@PrussianGeneral1815
@PrussianGeneral1815 5 ай бұрын
So if the USSR was like, Screw it, you all are part of me now
@NovikNikolovic
@NovikNikolovic 5 ай бұрын
@@PrussianGeneral1815 I mean, I'd assume it was an end goal eventually right? Communism was an international movement centered around workers everywhere, yeah? So the Soviet Union, thinking that they are the big shot, would want to absorb other countries eventually in their union. However, in terms of being practical, that would take ages to implement IF it's possible.
@PrussianGeneral1815
@PrussianGeneral1815 5 ай бұрын
@@NovikNikolovic would have been end goal yes, if implemented would it work? No you are right
@jansoucek3811
@jansoucek3811 5 ай бұрын
There is the Prague Spring in 1968 Czechoslovakia for a future video
@Kaiser_Polaris
@Kaiser_Polaris 5 ай бұрын
Suggestion: What if RFK survived
@Kaiser_Polaris
@Kaiser_Polaris 5 ай бұрын
@ArtisticTuber-mx2rz JFK's brother
@ldubt4494
@ldubt4494 5 ай бұрын
​@@Kaiser_Polaris people outside the usa do not automatically know what these abbreviations stand for.
@Kaiser_Polaris
@Kaiser_Polaris 5 ай бұрын
@@ldubt4494 I am not from USA tho
@ldubt4494
@ldubt4494 5 ай бұрын
@@Kaiser_Polaris im not either, but i just found it funny how you explained an abbreviation with another abbreviation
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 5 ай бұрын
@ArtisticTuber-mx2rzfather of funny brain worm man
@JLAvey
@JLAvey 5 ай бұрын
A neutral Germany would make the Cold War a little less tense but I really can't see anyone in Europe going along with a reunified Germany so soon after the last big war. You know, it makes you wonder how the space programs would be effected with Kruschev's removal years earlier. He appeared to really love the next big thing; spacecraft, SST, ekranoplans.
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 5 ай бұрын
There were some serious debate over germany reunification even when the wall came down.
@ceegle
@ceegle 5 ай бұрын
My parents told me about an anecdote about Khrushchev by the end of his rule of him stepping out for a speech and it went like this "Идея!... И где я?" (Idea!... And where am I?) The idea is that he was like the Soviet version of Joe Biden by the end of his rule 😂
@reptiliannoizezz.413
@reptiliannoizezz.413 5 ай бұрын
“Soviet Union can be described in single word: [unintelligible gibberish]”
@cgt3704
@cgt3704 4 ай бұрын
If the hungarian revolution succeded, it would have changed Romania's course as well. In our timeline, the Communist regime there proved fo be very helpful to the soviets, so much so they even imprisoned Nagy there. And two years after that, Krishchev decided to pay back the romanians's help by removing all the soviet troops who were stationed there since ww2. This was important, because without troops atound, the communist goverment in Bucharest was able to act more independently from Moscow. So if the hungarian revolution succeded, i would imagine the ussr sending more soldiers in the country as a measure to prevent any more anti-communist activity.
@mr.carguy654
@mr.carguy654 5 ай бұрын
Here's an interesting thought: had Hungary won and gradually improved western relationships until the fall of the Soviet Union Carpathian Ruthenia may have been ceeded to Hungary as Ukraine was being created. Later on, potentially as a punishment for Serbia due to their actions in the later Balkan war, Vojdovina may have also been re-attached. This in my opinion would have led to increased nationalism in Hungary over the next 30 years and several peaceful deals may have been done with Slovakia, Slovenia and some other neighbouring countries to purchase territories near the border with Hungarian majority populations.
@martinszekeres9267
@martinszekeres9267 3 ай бұрын
My grandpa was a highschool student when he saw the fall of the statue and if I remember right he escaped from Budapest with a bús back to our town safe
@adamherczegh8002
@adamherczegh8002 5 ай бұрын
Maybe a what if everything went perfect for Hungary?
@UdinJibral
@UdinJibral 5 ай бұрын
There's also a very good change the Prague spring succeed.
@sehr.geheim
@sehr.geheim 5 ай бұрын
The Hungarian revolution could have made Hungary capitalist again, that is true. It would have quickened the fall of the ussr, which would have advanced the fall of capitalism and because of that also advanced communist world revolution. But imagine if the Hungarian revolution could have made Hungary socialist? The Hungarian people finally breaking with the soviets and establishing a true socialist state, with democracy and an economy planned by the people for the people. The Soviet union wouldn't have fallen, but true socialism would have spread across it, destroying the bureaucracy and it would have been clear to the rest of the world why socialism is necessary, preventing decades of suffering we are experiencing now
@livelongapple2936
@livelongapple2936 5 ай бұрын
Can you do Prague spring?
@test_1r
@test_1r 5 ай бұрын
pls do a video if after the revolution Austria and Hungary reunited
@apersonontheinternet3
@apersonontheinternet3 5 ай бұрын
do 1848 next
@leventekocsis9103
@leventekocsis9103 5 ай бұрын
FINALLY HUNGARY RELATED VIDEO!!!!!
@nektar1n810
@nektar1n810 5 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the current Hungarian politics would be much different. For the better.
@latvija1918
@latvija1918 5 ай бұрын
Can you please do a video on what if Valery Sablins' revolution plot succeeded. It was a plan where he caused a mutiny on the Soviet baltic fleet flagship storozhevoy and hoped that the mutiny would cause a New Russian revolution in support of Leninist ideology in 1975.
@cooldownboi3890
@cooldownboi3890 5 ай бұрын
this isnt TNO 💀💀💀
@latvija1918
@latvija1918 5 ай бұрын
@cooldownboi3890 This is a real thing. He set off from the port of Riga on the flagman ship, and he tried to send radio signals around the USSR to make the people revolt against the corrupted dictatorship.
@DinoRicky
@DinoRicky 5 ай бұрын
5:10 kinda see the Hungarian invasion on the left side
@BandySeal78551
@BandySeal78551 5 ай бұрын
Fastest time I’ve clicked on your video
@Ciucas13579
@Ciucas13579 5 ай бұрын
Day 2 of asking: What if Michael the Brave wasnt assasinated by Basta?
@Zooollieg
@Zooollieg 5 ай бұрын
Can you make a video about if the treaty of Berlin in 1878 never happened, and Bulgaria kept San Stefano Borders?
@PVZzombieguy
@PVZzombieguy 4 ай бұрын
One of his videos about what if everything went perfect for bulgaria, he mentions that San Stefano simply cannot be kept in place.
@Zooollieg
@Zooollieg 4 ай бұрын
@@PVZzombieguy oh tough
@MGBBarreneche
@MGBBarreneche 5 ай бұрын
Video Idea: What if Japan Invaded the Soviets in WW2 instead of the European Colonies in 1941
@Okos-anim
@Okos-anim 5 ай бұрын
If the 1968 Warsaw Pact Invasion of Czechoslovakia failed?
@minecraftmurder3181
@minecraftmurder3181 5 ай бұрын
What if the Prague Spring succeeded?
@AnLMSengine
@AnLMSengine 5 ай бұрын
Suggestions WHAT IF Germany didn’t join WWI WHAT IF The USSR collapsed after Stalin’s death WHAT IF Italy surrendered in 1942
@biryanilover7147
@biryanilover7147 5 ай бұрын
Say bye to Austria-Hungary!
@teddyboucher1848
@teddyboucher1848 5 ай бұрын
More Communist nations independent of the USSR is a good thing. A major flaw of the communist movement in the 1900s was it becoming a tool of the Soviet Union.
@pippo_beffardo
@pippo_beffardo 5 ай бұрын
Day 1 of asking "what if everything went perfect for Italy"
@Kaiser_von_Europa
@Kaiser_von_Europa 5 ай бұрын
Mate!!! Idea: what if Napoleon's son aka Napoleon II live longer and become Emperor of France.
@danever159
@danever159 5 ай бұрын
2028 until we get everything went perfect for entente.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 5 ай бұрын
Nah 2028 is when we’ll get every modern empire
@zsomborhun8105
@zsomborhun8105 5 ай бұрын
One of my great grandfathers was one person, who cut the legs of the Stalin statue
@Elliot-q4m
@Elliot-q4m 5 ай бұрын
What if Ivan the Terrible didn’t kill his son, and the Rurik dynasty survived?
@thebills-o6b
@thebills-o6b 8 күн бұрын
1:25 you know what else is massive? LOW TAPER FA-
@itsdreamtoonYT
@itsdreamtoonYT 5 ай бұрын
What happened to your Google Drive maps?
@rudmillahnowrin9151
@rudmillahnowrin9151 5 ай бұрын
New video let's goooooooooooooo
@flaviocacopardo8064
@flaviocacopardo8064 5 ай бұрын
What if everything went perfect for Italy (Sardinia-piedmont)?
@Childdestroyer3.-_
@Childdestroyer3.-_ 5 ай бұрын
One day you should make a vid about possible stalin successors except Khrushchev basically : kaganovich, Bulganin, malenkov , molotov etc)
@willie4445
@willie4445 5 ай бұрын
Video idea: What if Russia lost The Second Chechen War? (1999-2009)
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 5 ай бұрын
One could make anargument they really did.
@YesMr-q9j
@YesMr-q9j Ай бұрын
Malenkov being the yes man of stalin casually change the whole course of history
@jozsefvas1719
@jozsefvas1719 5 ай бұрын
When my grandfather was going to work in Budapest in the days of the revolution, he saw burned out tank with crayon writing saying: "A ten year old gir destroyed this tank".
@gonzalosanchez1538
@gonzalosanchez1538 5 ай бұрын
One question, why do you outline the different "countries" inside Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and the USSR, but not those inside the UK? I'm genuinely curious
@Carlos_cheh
@Carlos_cheh 5 ай бұрын
What if Germany partitioned Austria-Hungary with Russia for their alliance in WW1
@sebessegesadrenalin
@sebessegesadrenalin 5 ай бұрын
as the comedian, Bödőcs said, in different timeline we eat mcdonalds burger in a ford mustang
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