Just Use A Bass…

[@camdrouilhet6892]

I fucking love when guitarists record a song entirely on bass. Bass tones get so fucking PHAT

[@brendangibson8200]

*Panopticon has entered the chat*

[@balls.2235]

Ong

[@jackielee6342]

@@balls.2235 or

[@ovulatinfish]

Royal blood is an incredible example of this. I didn’t even know they used a bass instead of guitar for the longest time of listening to them lmao

[@bthonk]

nice pfp AND opinions

[@bolson42]

Bassists hate when people say “just use a 9 string”. Guitarists hate when people say “just use a bass”. Glad we can finally unite together against these musically inept fools

[@tusharjamwal]

i say use both

[@mihailmilev9909]

@@tusharjamwal double neck 14 string

[@jimmymcmillan8233]

No one tells bassists to use a 9 string

[@bolson42]

@@jimmymcmillan8233 A lot of guitarists/non-bass fans say “what’s the point of a bass if you can just use a 9 string”? Idk why you think no one says that lmfao. Guess you don’t talk to many people

[@wxllsxcor]

​@@bolson42 the logic of "if i don't see it, it doesn't exist"

[@JVMC_ZR1]

That bass tone really emphasized the "Just use a bass" 😂

[@andrepalomaro353]

Its gonna blow your mind when you realize that the point is, not that one sounds better than the other, but that together, they sound better than either instrument alone. They sound good together because they’re different. Thats the point

[@johnnycash5336]

​@@andrepalomaro353he was making a joke, nobody asked you to explain it

[@andrepalomaro353]

@@johnnycash5336 don’t care

[@prod6thl]

@@johnnycash5336you’re trying to frame him as an asshole when you’re the one acting like a dickhead, congratulations

[@SwingCritic141]

Dude RIP and TEAR sounded insane on the bass… so much snarl

[@thatotherguy4728]

I LNOW THIS IS AN OLD ASS POST BUT I JUST SAW IT AJD I WAS LOOKING FOR A COMMENT ABOUT IT BEING RIP AND TEAR

[@hacjy]

its not rip and tear, its at dooms gate

[@turbochargedfilms]

@@thatotherguy4728 its not tho, its (new) E1M1

[@InteractiveCarrot]

@@hacjythank you hero

[@C.S.Argudo]

You're right, the bass sounds better imo

[@SoulKingBK]

Faxxx, and dem slaps sound crazy with distortion

[@placeholder6811]

Unfortunately the bass wouldn't sound good on a mixed track while the guitar would. It's a pretty common occurrence in studio recording that the mix sounds fantastic but the instruments on their own sound kinda... Mid

[@C.S.Argudo]

@@placeholder6811 brave of you to assume it would need guitar with something that crunchy tbh, idk I make music, beats, ect and I would love this tone on it's own nothing else it's got so much going on

[@mike3963]

It sounds tinny to me

[@jessjohnreed7964]

@@mike3963 That can be edited in post.

[@KaityKat117]

"Is all personal preference" Davie504: "And I took that personally"

[@gplog7197]

Honestly as a bassist that bass tone sounds fucking sick

[@J.PC.Designs]

As a guitarist, that bass sounded cooler a bit...

[@joewell6435]

Dang, that riff sounds so good on bass

[@MLoerAudio]

I’m going to start dropping “JUST USE AN 8-STRING GUITAR” in bass KZbinrs’ comment sections

[@hiroshikitsun7585]

no

[@kurtcobainii1075]

I feel bad for Davie now. He isnt prepared.

[@quantumxfluxmd6821]

LOL

[@villusive]

@@kurtcobainii1075 he'll destroy y'all

[@hjustonclipster7614]

Davie504 would holy slap you

[@SunnyAyyy]

I agree with you. that bass sounds amazing btw!

[@kmfnj]

Dude, this. Bass tone on is here siiiiick.

[@natedavid3873]

@@kmfnj wouldnt work in a mix though

[@13_cmi]

@@natedavid3873 only if you don’t do a good job. You can get it to work.

[@lazarushatchette3978]

@@13_cmi would be a hassle tho

[@apacheworrier3776]

Well the 8 string sounds like a constipated walrus.

[@ThoR52]

I don’t think I will ever get tired of that doom soundtrack.

[@heathurban9217]

The 9 string normally sounds flubby, but your tone is great. To get my 'Meshuggah' sound I do just use slap bass through effects made for the bass specifically. Guitar effects are not gonna get the best sounds out of a bass (though it did sound cool with your settings).

[@tfwnoyandere]

no it doesn't

[@athmaid]

@@tfwnoyandere you don't understand the concept of preference huh

[@tfwnoyandere]

@@athmaid i understand it i just choose to ignore it because mine is more valid

[@athmaid]

@@tfwnoyandere you sound annoying af not gonna lie

[@SuperJohan64]

Little girl in taco commerical: why don't we have both?

[@jacepayne7671]

The bass part actually sounded cooler imo.

[@crewd00d]

They're meant to go together to create a good tone for the song. Bass and guitar should be thought of as one instrument in a metal mix. They fill out each other's weaknesses in the sonic spectrum and combine to create the "guitar tone" you hear in a mixed song.

[@MiloOfApacheAttackHelicopter]

That bass sounds PHAT. I love it!

[@sunkissedandsudafed]

Dingwall basses have such tasty tones 🤤

[@CamF156]

Latina phat ass

[@mmmmmmmmdaaaamnnnnbabyyyy]

The perfect counter to "just use a bass" imo is "no"

[@striing6964]

the bass still sounds good as hell

[@NateMonoxide]

I mean, you're right, but chose one of the worst possible tones to try and make your point. The distortion makes them sound more similar than a clean tone would have.

[@yogxoth1959]

Exactly what I was thinking. They do sound pretty similar in this clip.

[@the4given196]

And that He used a guitar amp+ effects didnt Help the audio quality.

[@MetalMan1245]

And who uses 8 and nine string guitars on clean tones? Certainly not Andrew Baena, and certainly not many people. The list is a short one, I can say that.

[@the4given196]

@@MetalMan1245 nice Argument forbjust getting a Bass.

[@arrestedshrimp]

@@MetalMan1245 Tosin Abasi and Javier Reyes would like to have a word with you.,

[@thomp5164]

Conclution: "Just use a bass"

[@devlintaylor9520]

@Bubb the bass sounds better, is cheaper, easier to play(string spacing), less strings to break

[@arrestedshrimp]

@bubb3926 It's not about preference, a mix needs BOTH bro.

[@unkhezo_0]

​@@arrestedshrimpi think you are missunderstanding something

[@Reeledmedal6519]

@@devlintaylor9520 yeah if all you want is bass, lemme know how easy solos are on a bass compared to guitar lol

[@devlintaylor9520]

@@Reeledmedal6519 It would be different, but i dont see how it would be any harder? Instead of sweep picking, you have 2 fingers that can "walk" up the strings

[@sleepsire9321]

Don't worry bro six string bass haters say the same thing to bassists. "WhY dOnT yOu PlAy A gUiTar"

[@mistermysticmusic3307]

Right, I learned by ear in the days of no internet. Nd that skill just sharpened the more I did it. It's normal to me buy not to others. Rock on!

[@AviatorNikolaev]

underrated track from doom 2016 :))) wish it was longer

[@MegaEmmanuel09]

It's not underrated lmao, and he has a bunch of Doom '16 and Eternal covers on his channel

[@guitarandstuff4205]

Yea, most people that don't play don't understand. Love you address this in a nice way instead of going crazy. Love the vids

[@ianlopez6524]

Him: they dont sound alike Me: USE AN EQ AND THEY WILL

[@bentrod3405]

Exactly what I was thinking. You can make a bass sound like a guitar and a guitar sound like a bass if you use the right pedals/plugins.

[@ianlopez6524]

@@bentrod3405 exactly!!!!

[@mattjingles5758]

Finally people that get audio

[@ashleywootton9556]

@@bentrod3405 but why would you do that when you can just use a guitar?

[@bentrod3405]

@@ashleywootton9556 why use a guitar when you can just use a bass

[@Guitars-and-more]

Even if they were tuned to the same,there’s a thing called timbre that affects sound. Think of it as when you hear a voice they could say the same word, but they both sound different. That’s what timbre is. So the bass has a different timbre then the guitar

[@BobRocksGuitar]

Exactly. Just recently got a 9 string back in 2020 and I get asked all the time why I don't just use a bass. Now I can show anyone who asks me this 😃

[@5usp3c7]

If you're using the high B and E strings often then that's reason enough.

[@CyclesAreSingularities]

@@5usp3c7 my guy did you watch the video?

[@5usp3c7]

@@CyclesAreSingularities it's not a very long video. Of course I watched it.

[@unfunnydave5485]

You’re right, bass just sounds better

[@5usp3c7]

@@unfunnydave5485 distorted or raw?

[@davidmckelvey2601]

They sound pretty similar to me. The bass just had more punch and bite to it.

[@slamdmkv]

The Ryo pfp definitely checks out

[@lynxxlynxx]

Damn the bass sounds a million times better 🤯

[@Weststudio87]

I love them both man! That being said that bass tone is mighty sexy

[@BunnyTwist]

There’s definitely a difference but idk how you can call that “nothing alike” lol

[@crayondude8014]

Yeah I agree like they’re very similar the dudes just mad I think lmao

[@mattcox3496]

They're very similar. 30+ years of strings here.

[@gabrieldavis8748]

All in someone else’s ears. Yes the same notes and such but different gauges in string and pickups, give many differences.

[@juliangarcialobo7299]

@@crayondude8014 right lol

[@Untoldanimations]

but what about all the guitar techniques that are most suited to guitar like harmonics?

[@therandomman6647]

Big guitars and bass go together so well. You can cut the low end off of the guitar a bit for a more raspy sound, and have the bass playing the same octave to fill in the whole sonic range in a more fulfilling way

[@willcresson8776]

What I don't understand is why have high strings when they get used so rarely.

[@aelrecs015]

melodic riffs use the higher strings

[@anthonyk6062]

I like how he used a Mick Gordon type of riff to show the difference. Love it

[@the4given196]

He didnt use a Type of Riff. He used micks Riffs.

[@kennis265]

Wait you’re both right though, they definitely sound different, but I’d take that bass line anyday

[@CNNBlackmailSupport]

You are exactly right. It isn't that different sounding if you don't really understand tone and presence, but it's like mid afternoon and late afternoon if you do.

[@347Jimmy]

Very good way of saying it isn't night and day

[@siltstrider6812]

I appreciate a 7 string guitar with clean chords, for like...heavy jazz or funk. the amount of bass from a low B is a sweet spot for me.

[@As_Asa_PhD]

I wonder why I hardly see a baritone guitar being used. They're so cool.

[@fueledbypaintwater]

Ikr, once I get decent at guitar, I want to try my hand at a bari. Only problem may be my tiny hands lol.

[@josuastangl7140]

@@fueledbypaintwater for small hands especially, a baritone is more suitable than an extended range instrument. Less strings you have to mute, less fretboard you have to reach around and the scale length shouldn't be too different as extended range guitars often are just as long to be able to get a defined sound with low notes

[@athmaid]

They have gotten quite popular because of Loathe actually. Rabea Massaad also uses them all the time

[@billmint8122]

Lol he's using a baritone in literally the next short

[@MarcusToroian]

Many 8 strings are baritone scale.

[@williammayer6829]

You just proved the point. There’s actually note definition and not just harsh gain. Guitar as an instrument is a lead and mid heavy instrument with some low end potential. If you’re just doing it for the chugs bass is much more fun!

[@satanicconservative3935]

I’m still mindblown how a mediocre player can have your following or afford the insane instruments you own.

[@operationkickass1049]

Jealous much!

[@maxalaintwo3578]

Sounds like a cope to me

[@trippprofant8747]

I could be wrong but my guess is the scale length is what would be affecting the differences in tone, would be cool to see a short scale bass possibly the same scale length of your guitar and test it. Good vid appreciate the open ended answer think more ppl need to realize that when it comes to music pretty much all of it is just preference not fact.

[@corbineisel9342]

I mean, they do sound alike when put through those settings. "Nothing" is a stretch just to defend 8 and 9 string guitars. Let's be real. No, I'm not defending bassists with their argument. I used my ears. The tone changes a bit, sure.

[@orlaani1451]

Yeah the chisen note wasn't the best tbh. In this clip you can hear a bit of a difference but after all it sounds pretty similar

[@gabrielreisser4921]

I’m ngl I love when metal bands let the bass cut through the mix more, not a lot of people do it but it sounds so fucking chonky it’s great

[@megadrivermegadriver4755]

His face at the end when he's thinking "$hit it does sound pretty similar " lol

[@FishyKatos69]

Guitarist: hey guys look, i just bought 8 string guitar Bassist, keyboardist, second guitarist leave the party*

[@joveon4569]

The correct answer is they sound different, but that has WAY more to do with distortion and tone/eq settings than one being a bass and the other being guitar. The feel and playability I'm sure is quite different also but anyone who's saying "the bass sounds worse" doesn't understand how amps (or probably VSTs in this case) work

[@AzraelSkinnerofficial]

I'm just a vocalist but I believe the bass and drums are the souls of a song

[@vigi_21]

The bass is like reallyy sharper ppl in the comments are dumb lmao

[@Xaion6]

Dude, great tones from both! I know as a guitar player that there's difference but you got that bass to DIG!!!!

[@onionheadguy7094]

I've always wondered how bass works for really low tunings. Is it still an octave down?

[@BaenaCarcosa]

Up to you, you can do it either way

[@onionheadguy7094]

@@BaenaCarcosa coo

[@tfwnoyandere]

octave down always sounds better otherwise just have bassy guitar tone and bassy kick drum tone like disfiguring the goddess

[@cyntdestroyer69xd]

If you go below Drop D# - would be better to tune to same octave

[@LordMacragge77]

Lemmy taught all of us that a bass can be run through a marshall stack and sound like a lead instrument. Talk about being ahead of your time.

[@347Jimmy]

People were running basses through Marshall stacks before specialist bass amps were common But they sure as hell weren't using them the way Lemmy did 👍

[@natedavid3873]

That bass sound just wouldnt work in a mix its too hissy and muddy unlike the guitar which has focused and tighter mids

[@lukaskuipers7791]

If you would run it through a bass amp with bass effects you'd get a better sound out of it though...

[@felix329]

@@lukaskuipers7791 agreed

[@crazylugpyro6126]

@@lukaskuipers7791 Well, not much better. Bass with some metal-like distortion would sound muddy still. Wouldn't be much clearer.

[@lukaskuipers7791]

@@crazylugpyro6126 don't get me wrong it would still sound shitty because the tone we're chasing here isn't very special to begin with, but bass as an intrument is just better desiged to play these low frequencies and that's definitely audible

[@cake_9510]

Both sound amazing

[@joedog3977]

A bass is a octave lower. Even with a 8 or 9 string guitar. Still a octave lower. If the bassist has a 5 plus string of course.

[@cyntdestroyer69xd]

it is not always the case, especially for 9 string. C#0 is one semitone above human hearing limit, lol

[@AcousticSerenity]

That dingwall has so much growl to it. Love it!

[@NicDunn]

The bottom strings on a 7-9 string sound amazing, but they’re not a bass. That simple. Bass is a very different tone and timbre

[@war.blitzee7985]

I’m a bassist that loves 8 and 9 string guitars. It’s just the ones who don’t like playing djent that are like this. Tried an 8 string and it was like a new experience for me. No hate towards any extended range instruments

[@Lissitor1]

I like both tbh. But the 9-String is way "cleaner" and therefore more pleasing.

[@wayneanderson2523]

Exactly. Less mid on the guitar can add to a girthier to e, more thick than a bass. Better for chords and what not

[@TheBudBoss]

I like the bass sound better lol xD but I still want an 8 string.

[@qwertyforwen2342]

It’s hard for me to explain the difference but I definitely hear it

[@FlarkusChunswen]

The "buh dah buh dow buh dam buh dah danow" sounds sick on the lowdiddler, dudes.

[@NoTengoIdeaGuey]

Not to mention that it's a lot easier to switch between playing virtuoso guitar solos and heavy chugging bass notes as one musician when you don't have to switch between instruments in the middle of the song.

[@LNVACVAC]

Strings are quite different and the pick-ups are another world. But substituting the strings (if the scale and nut allows) will bring both quite close.

[@H1PP1E88]

I like the bass's tone, it sounds cleaner

[@benpowell5348]

i used to be more skeptical, then realized that the same people that object to guitar and basses sometimes occupying the same range would, had they been born back when orchestras were evolving and composers were adding stuff, probably have objected to bass trombone and tuba playing the same thing. and as a trombone player myself i absolutely LOVE the combination of the wider tuba sound and that cutting edge of the bass trombone on pedal notes

[@roflstomp9836]

I love how that doom riff sounds on the bass. So fucking aggressive

[@ryderairlie-blundon377]

Bass has so much fizz with that riff, idk how you'd even mix it

[@clydetaylor6375]

Killer Bass 🔊 love it.

[@claywebb786]

Exactly! Let us bassists not sound like a guitar. The string gauge and scale length are completely different

[@tysher7353]

Exactly the bass sounds so much better!

[@zaydacevedo9437]

That bass sounds amazing tho lmao

[@sheldonsmith9438]

Different tools for different jobs...sonic paintbrushes...as artists it's about the vision of the song and the creative process.

[@aarondavis4341]

That's some sic tone coming outta that dingwall

[@operaviking4275]

The sound of the bass though be fucking cool... Both have a feel of Doom music in it

[@seanrodrigues9035]

I agree with this completely that's why I have a band with that Royal blood kind of sound but I still use my guitar with octave pedal is because the guitar just has a different sound. And there's a whole lot more you can do with the guitar when it comes to those classic rock sounds

[@LechQuem]

This just convinced me to start a death metal/deathcore spiritual succesor to motorhead

[@reagindoerindo4311]

Damn, I was about to run thinking the Doom song was about to kick in

[@jonathonvillella1614]

Bass has a bigger bandwidth so it has more tonal possibilities in some aspects. Plug a guitar head through a bass head and add a bass 15, you'll level the place.

[@zlac]

To be honest, even though they don't sound "alike", they do sound similar enough that if you put one version instead of another, most listeners wouldn't notice that much of a difference. I bet it would sound SICK if you do the same on Double Bass!

[@NewfieMan98]

Had to hit em with At Doons Gate. Fuck yeah bud

[@SpartanLaserCanon]

To me a good heavy mix with a bass the guitars always have a good amount of mids and enough (not too much) high frequencies in the tone while the bass has more bass in the eq. Meshuggah without the bass in their mixes would for sure not sound as heavy so to me that is an example of why a bass guitar might be important, even with an 8 string guitar.

[@cedrix9105]

That bass tone could fit perfectly in a Doom Eternal song.

[@Beregond1861]

Lol I was expecting Mick's Doom riff!

[@marcjohnson5148]

I love the bass being the bass and I love the guitar being the guitar making great music together in the band. And I’m a ten string guitar player.

[@REDW1NG94]

I feel like I just entered a Doom boss battle lol

[@rohn_kota2192]

If you're listening to a song and can't seem to tell the difference: guitars will sound sharp but crunchy, basses will sound more chunky and full in lower and mid ranges

[@williamdavis7274]

what are your thoughts on baritone guitars? I think ultimately, like the bass or 7,8,9 strings... they are there own thing. But Rabbea Massad really developed his own thing with Bari but as you said ... strings, pickups, scale length ... so each instrumen is a starting point rather than an end in and off itself

[@Hydra_02]

As someone who isn't very musicly inclined they do sound somewhat similar but also have a distinct difference

[@Skyunai]

It's better on bass because bass is what makes the original song sound so good because that riff is mainly bass.

[@fascilime]

I am a firm believer that you can write incredible music with just a bass, and I personally prefer the sound of the bass, but they absolutely hold their own unique flavor that is hard to mistake for one another

[@coltonkennedy5826]

Both sound totally badass to me

[@Povilaz]

Holy shit okay, the bass one sounds so fucking good tho.

[@justinunger3526]

I’m all for extended range . But as the neck gets thicker, tone sounds more and more “hollow” is how I’d describe it. There’s a comparison video between 8’s, 7’s, and six string baritone. Same tuning, same tone, baritone 6 string sounded heavier.

[@cd0u50c9]

Given that the bass tone is much better you've conquered your own argument. JUST USE A BASS.

[@heavenly2k]

Both sound fucking dope

[@zumba.c]

The bass tone 🥵🥵🥵

[@joshmanwaring3848]

That bass is gorgeous

[@johnanderson3475]

in all fairness you guys would probably love a piccolo bass. they're really fuckin cool.

[@Nine3nine3]

Use both to fill out the mix and get the heaviest of sounds 🔥

[@HaraXSynOfficial]

That bass is beautiful 😍