The tragedy was not caused by fans with no tickets , that has been proven to be a lie by the police .There was a massive cover up that took decades to expose .
@DannyBoi21124 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're correct. David Duckenfield opened the gate outside to relieve crushing of people, allowing thousands of people to flood through the tunnel into the main pens. Causing major crushing in the crowd. It took over 20 years for duckenfield to admit he was responsible and that he was wrong
@baylessnow4 жыл бұрын
@@DannyBoi2112 A policeman doing something wrong? But that never happens,.... apprently.
@FootballFury4 жыл бұрын
it was partly their fault. But the police was shit and did lie and try cover up as well
@cufc35544 жыл бұрын
@@FootballFury it has been proven that liverpool fans played NO part in the death of the 96
@cufc35544 жыл бұрын
@@FootballFury i think you need to educate yourself on the what happened
@captainchainsaw88563 жыл бұрын
Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish went to all 96 funerals. Us Liverpool supporters love that man forever. Hillsborough broke his heart
@APFJJ3 жыл бұрын
A true king
@sarahpagett91913 жыл бұрын
Yeh King Kenny will always be a legend
@piratesswoop7253 жыл бұрын
I think sadly there were less than 96 funerals because several of the victims were related and had funerals together. Two sisters, I think two or three sets of brothers and the father and son. Just so tragic.
@martinodoni8943 Жыл бұрын
He didn't, it wouldn't have been possible, as some funerals were happening at the same time in different parts of the country. But he went to as many as he could - he says he lost count of how many - and made sure at least someone from the club was in attendance at any funeral he couldn't go to.
@jabbra18379 ай бұрын
@@martinodoni8943 I appreciate this correction, and it doesn't take any respect away from the guy. He's one guy, he did the most he could and that's all that matters 👍🏻
@jayc41334 жыл бұрын
It’s took decades, but it’s been proved that it wasn’t the liverpool fans who were to blame. Despite the police narrative to pass blame on the fans, the changing of the police’s own statements to fit that narrative, trying to say it was ‘drunken yobs’ as the Liverpool fans were described by police, to cover the own failings plus many more indiscrepancies that added to the misery to families, friends & our city. Not to mention a certain shithead newspaper that we’ve HATED ever since the tragedy and always will for publishing lies abt Liverpool fans, lies instigated by our inept police force to cover up how much of a joke they are. #JFT96 #YNWA
@sarahfox39594 жыл бұрын
The police not only tested every dead persons blood alcohol (including children) but also did a criminal background check only hours after the tragedy. The motive for this is clear, to pass the blame and criminalise the people they'd just killed. If you haven't already seen it, this is well worth a watch. watchdocumentaries.com/hillsborough/ JFT96 RIP.
@sonic_of_atlantis4 жыл бұрын
Total Eclipse Of The Scum!
@manutdlists24423 жыл бұрын
Justice for the 96 ❤⚽️
@bobbysfunchannel3 жыл бұрын
Yes Justice for the 96!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤💕💕💕💕💞💞💞⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️
@clarenicola13 жыл бұрын
NEVER forgotten❤96
@sarahpagett91913 жыл бұрын
Respect 🙏
@lfcaaron30803 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Man Utd….proper club and fans.
@jefffoster16263 жыл бұрын
Watched it a home in shock, a friend of mine lost his life that day 22 yrs old, I was 18 , R.I.P Dave . Justice for the 96.
@shayneramsay13883 жыл бұрын
I was watching the game from my home in Australia with me being a Liverpool fan, i was a teenager and was gutted to see what was happening, and then to find out how the chief of police acted and how the Sun newspaper treated the Liverpool fans were an utter disgrace. Justice for the 96 but for all the Liverpool supporters that were there "You Will Never Walk Alone"
@berniecushion16852 жыл бұрын
Big shout out to liverpool
@berniecushion16852 жыл бұрын
Rest in piece
@emilygaskell4243 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t the fans with no tickets, that was just to pass the blame on the Liverpool fans.
@generichuman20444 жыл бұрын
The blame being put on non ticket holders was false and the commentator was given this information by the police command. It was common in English football back then for a few people to show up without tickets in order to buy one off of fellow fans outside the ground. What had happened was the police could not deal with a huge flow of fans before kick off. The higher ups decided to open a gate in order to relieve outside crushing and overcrowding. This was a crucial mistake that lead to fans who needed an escape choosing to go to the stand in the ground. The layout of the stand meant that it was quickly filled and fans were blocked from escape by small barriers and large fences that separated home and away fans. This lead to widespread panic as people began feeling crushed and realised they had nowhere to go. People tried to crawl under the crowd and were stood on, they tried to get to the exit but were pushed into fences and crushed by the sheer volume of fans. The smaller barriers that seperate sections of the stand also lead to more crushing and also acted as a restriction on escape
@jlw223563 жыл бұрын
My ex-boss and his son were in the adjoining stand and the main reason so many fans were late arriving was due to the police stopping coaches and cars on the motorway. They went on every coach searching for booze and weapons. His coach was still waiting to be let go after being searched forty minutes previously . So by the time they did get into the stadium he said they could see the Leppings Lane stand was virtually full and there was thousands still outside. The Police panicked! Top and bottom of it,they didn't want to be responsible for holding up the game.
@mrkipling22014 жыл бұрын
One of the saddest things was that it was always likely to happen there at some point. There were problems at that end of the ground at the 3 previous semi finals in 1981, 87 and 88. Yet the FA carried on using it and 96 people needlessly died.
@BrokeredHeart4 жыл бұрын
They made recommendations to the chairman to reduce capacity, and their solution was to divide the terraces into pens to prevent sideways movement by the fans. The Leppings Lane end of the pitch was notoriously crowded for years prior to this travesty, and they didn't address the problems there, or would agree to open the gates earlier to prevent the surge of fans trying to get inside before the opening kick. Broken turnstiles and a lack of stadium attendants to direct people funneled everyone into the middle pen - things that should have been addressed prior to the match.
@mrkipling22014 жыл бұрын
@@BrokeredHeart totally agree with you. I went there about 2 months before the disaster to see Manchester United play Sheffield Wednesday in a league game. Me and my dad were directed to the corner pen , the one next to the banked terrace in the corner because the centre pens were full. There was police and stewards standing in front of the central tunnel. That must have been about 2:45-2:50pm. You could see where problems could arise. The previous semi finals had a filtering system in place where fans were checked for their tickets 2 or 3 times on their way to the leppings lane turnstiles. That wasn’t in place in 1989. So you got a big build up of fans at the turnstiles due to no filtering.
@_FsEk3 жыл бұрын
The English FA, Sheffield Wednesday and South Yorkshire Police should have been taken to the cleaners and jail sentences dished out right left and centre.
@vikkilunn66773 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this live as an 8 year old... it still beggars belief! So many plights for justice and all have failed, it’s awful. Thank you for bringing this to the attention of the world. And yes, the fans were chanting thinking it was hooliganism. If you want to do a video, look up ‘The Sun’ coverage (vile) and the plight for justice of the 96 x
@jacquie20047 ай бұрын
This was NOT due to ticketless fans! It was due to piss poor planning and abject incompetence on the part of David Duckenfield!
@michaeldumbell78113 жыл бұрын
Watch a documentary on it my man, don’t listen to the commentator because he didn’t know what the issue was, he was getting told by the police what happened, the same people who caused and were negligent and LIED for 30 years afterwards, I know your heart is in the right place mate
@marcwarren59854 жыл бұрын
My dads cousin died that day. And also the youngest Liverpool fan to die that day turned out to be the cousin of LFC’s legendary captain “Steven Gerrard”! RIP
@all-england-r-we50713 жыл бұрын
Muzzy MC..... What dya mean Karma.... I'm no Liverpool fan-but this is people's lifes, Brothers... Mums... Dad's... Sisters etc needlessly killed attending a football match, What happened at Heysel was equally devastating.... Long jail sentences should have followed both disasters
@abbeyjones32403 жыл бұрын
@@Muzzy33 that is a sick thing to say. Regardless to your views on football, this whole tradegy didn't need to happen. So many people lost their lives, meaning people lost loved ones. How you can say such a thing is beyond me
@martinodoni8943 Жыл бұрын
@@all-england-r-we5071 Jail sentences DID follow Heysel for 14 Liverpool fans, some suspended, and for many of the Officials who organised the event. Suggesting Hillsborough was "karma" is beyond stupidity. The youngest victim at Hillsborough was ten years old. He would have been SIX at the time of Heysel, even if he had been there (which he wasn't). Do you seriously imagine the Italian fans who died in a crowd crush running away from fighting were scared off by a six year old child?
@Emsky19894 жыл бұрын
On the bottom part of the stands, there's a tunnel that leads in from the Leppings Lane area. The chief of police who was working at the pitch that told, told officers to open the side gate, but no instruction was given to close the gate to the tunnel to the already overcrowded stands. So, instead of going to the stands on either side - the bottom stand is split into three parts, with a fence separating them - more people rushed into the tunnel. People had to either climb to the stands above or climb over the gate, as you saw in the video. It took the police about twenty-thirty minutes to open the gate to let them out onto the pitch. The Chief of Police lied and told people that there were fans with no tickets, and that's what caused it. I still, to this day, cant believe the cover up the police did over this. Being from Sheffield myself, I am ashamed for how our police handled this. Justice for the 96
@YN97WA3 жыл бұрын
Respect my friend. YN96WA ♥️
@Christinem-h7b29 күн бұрын
I'm from Sheffield myself. He should never have been left in charge he had absolutely no clue what he was doing.
@stevenanderson74613 жыл бұрын
Steven Gerrard 10 year cousin died at Hillsborough
@94blondebimbo4 жыл бұрын
Funny isn't it how the commentator is immediately fed the line that its because of fans without tickets, but rushed to shut up the actual fans who are there saying "well we don't know the facts" because they disputed that. Immediate action to try and cover up. They knew what they were doing! My Dad is now disabled because his back was crushed in Hillsborough. He wasn't meant to be in the middle pen but tried to get back into the crowd after using the toilet only to be forced by the momentum of the crowd into the middle pen. Seeing the cover up in real time just makes me livid!
@paigeleigh25543 жыл бұрын
Best wishes to your Dad. JFT96 YNWA
@stephen-truthseeker3 жыл бұрын
Not true John Motson is lying. Fans did not break down any gate and there wasn't any ticketless fans either.
@geoffpoole4832 жыл бұрын
Motson was handed that "information" live on air.
@stephen-truthseeker2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffpoole483 he mentions the number 33 at point.
@clarenicola13 жыл бұрын
I watched this live on tv....crying and totally helpless heart breaking
@HeaVYScePTiC4 жыл бұрын
Justice for the 96 ♥️🔥
@sashh22634 жыл бұрын
For anyone who has never experienced a terrace it is basically concrete stairs, no seats you would stand for the duration of the game. The terrace here goes lower than the pitch so if you are right at the front with a gate open you can not get out because your legs would trapped between concrete and the people behind you. Prof Phil Scraton has written on this and has a couple of videos on KZbin well worth watching.
@jefffoster16263 жыл бұрын
Fans having to do the job the paramedics should have been doing!! Had they been allowed in , we now know they were outside being prevented by police into the stadium. Makes me so angry..
@elizabethstevens41602 жыл бұрын
Basic timeline of such for the day: Fans started arriving at rhe leppings lane end. Not enough turnstiles, not enough police cordons to direct fans, and generally not enough police caused a crush outside. Police asked for a delay in kick off (it had been granted in previous years) and back up. Dukinfield denied both. Dukinfield was in the control room that looked directly over rthe leppings lane end, he could see, very clearly, the stands were already over crowded. He did nothing. The situation outside was deemed a "risk to life". Dukinfield ordered gate c, an exit gate, opened. But he didn't order the tunnel leading to the affected pens closed first. This was standard practice at every match, he had been informed of this practice but figured "they will find their own way". Fans streamed in, no officials present, and no clear signage to direct them, the first thing they see is the tunnel, leading to already over packed stands. The crush from outside went inside, it ment that they all got caught up in the flow down the tunnel. Fans at the front were begging police to help, Fans above were pulling fans below up and out, fans either side were screaming for help, telling police people were hurt and dying. police started pushing fans back in because their primary concern, as ordered by Dukinfield, wasn't crowd safety, it was crowd control. Once the magnitude of the situation came to light they opened the one single person gate at the front, fans then started pulling and kicking at the fencing to get them free. Police were still more concerned about containing them. As this situation developed, as fans were slowly being crushed to death, Dukinfield started the cover up, he sent out the statement that ticketless fans had broken open gate c and forced entry. Only 3 ambulances made it onto the pitch. The information they had was not correct, it was described as a pitch invasion. By the time they declared a major incident, many of the 96 has already died. Most never made it hospital or got anywhere close to effective medical help. Fans were performing CPR while police were trying to control a "pitch invasion". In the aftermath, family arrived to search for, and identify, the dead by Polaroid photo only. They were refused access to their loved ones, being told "they belong to the coroner now". Later, well over 100 police reports from that day were altered to remove any statements that were negative about the police response. Many officers tried to speak out, but they were threatened and bullied into shutting up. The next day, higher ups in the police had "leaked" to the Sun tabloid (a rag of immeasurable magnitude) that Liverpool fans not only caused the incident, but were looting from the dead, beating up officers performing CPR, and even urinating on police and dead alike. They printed that with the headline "The Truth" the next day. None of it was true, not even close. 27 years later, the families finally got some measure of justice and closure when the cover up was proven and those involved were named and shamed. To date no one has ever been charged with he wrongful death of those 96 people who simply went to a football match.
@dannjp75 Жыл бұрын
Watched it all unfold live on tv as a 13 year old Liverpool fan, haunted me ever since. Heartbreaking, YNWA❤
@bobbysfunchannel3 жыл бұрын
I am from Britain and know about the Hillsborough disaster I support everton liverpools Derby teem and am so angry about them old terrible police. I feel sorry for the 96 who died in Hillsborough.
@04williamsl3 жыл бұрын
I think you mentioned somewhere in this video something about 'why did they still try to get in, why didn't they leave?' (or something like that). The fans at the front couldn't move forward or go over the advertising boards - there was a metal net up to prevent them from doing so. As for leaving out the way they came, this more than likely was impossible. I did some fire marhsalling training, and they showed us a video of how dangerous crowds cane be at doorways. At a concert, there was a fire, and someone recorded outside of another small doorway where dozens of people were trapped - someone had more than likely tripped over/been pushed over, then someone fell over them and so on. The door then got blocked, and no one could move. I imagine it's something similar here and it's like a game of tetris. There's too many people, and as a result they can't go back the way they came because it's too small of a doorway to turn themselves around to fit back through it with other people there.
@dazzthorpe3 жыл бұрын
I was there, as a Nottingham Forest supporter and I can tell you, without doubt, the Forest fans did not have a clue what was going off until the first body came past. To disrespect them, is ill informed.
@rosiedollface3 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan/Liverpool born girl - So sorry you had to watch what was going on with no knowledge, must've been so terrifying... I'm sure your side were eager to jump onto the pitch and help for sure... I was 2 weeks from being born so sadly I had to research this + be known of it, think my dad told me of it, but I'm glad this stupid stadium seating design was abolished WORLDWIDE !
@Red-Liverbird3 жыл бұрын
David Duckenfield 😡 Guilty! JFT96 YNWA 🔥96🔥 Rest in Peace I sat up all night listening to the local radio station (radio city) listening to the commentators talking to the fans returning from Hillsborough. They had family members there waiting for their friends and relatives coming home. I remember one Dad waiting all night for his Son, he was there talking on the radio until the last train had arrived. His Son never came home, he was one of the fatalities 😢 (Never Forgotten) 32 years ago today
@xxmiadalyxx54894 жыл бұрын
My dad and grandad and me dads Mate were there, and they were sat where the big crush happened and thank goodness me grandad felt claustrophobic and moved to another side becasue I wouldn’t be here 🙏🙏
@1peter11803 жыл бұрын
nottingham forest fans if they had known they would of helped
@bedojames3 жыл бұрын
Over here in Ireland game was broadcast live. Nice to hear a neutral review and still fresh in mind 32 yrs later.
@niallhart47103 жыл бұрын
My grandad was there and saved a person called Kevin who was left to die by the police Kevin’s mother tried to get justice but died a few years ago
@RayPsy3 жыл бұрын
The police stopped the ambulance for entering the ground, that's the reason why they used ad board to carry people to the ambulance outside.
@rosiedollface3 жыл бұрын
What amazes me to this day is the short video(s) of ambulances dashing past fans + police to get to fans in need... respect to the fans with the ad boards too - genius ! I'm sure the home end knew what was going on, they were eager to help my fc...
@paulflynn75644 жыл бұрын
Justice for the 96 Hold the police responsible
@paulflynn75644 жыл бұрын
Police are liers what thay say they changed there statement and lied and the news seid the fans picked the bodys lies police showed be done for what happened blamed nd arestad
@paulflynn75644 жыл бұрын
They win the league on 96 ponts
@Muzzy334 жыл бұрын
Karma hits deep
@marcwarren59853 жыл бұрын
@@Muzzy33 what?
@leemurray72404 жыл бұрын
No mobile phones then. I was playing a match miles away from home. My two cousins were at the game I'd not got a clue if they were dead or not . Thank god they were ok.. lots of other people were not so lucky. That hour drive home to find out they were fine was the longest hour drive home of my life...
@adamdruett91073 жыл бұрын
To understand Hillsborough better it's probably better to watch one of the documentaries that came out once the truth came out.
@afunnyusername55993 жыл бұрын
there is so much more to this than that video shows
@emily_els1_football2 жыл бұрын
My dad was there and he got pulled up by complete strangers and they saved his life that day
@coinucopia693610 ай бұрын
It is now 97. Legally it was decided that the latest recent passing as a result of injuries sustained that day.
@francessweeney23083 жыл бұрын
The ambulance services didn't arrive until 3.16pm, they were told that fighting was going on that needed to be controlled. They covered up their failings for decades before admitting them.
@tejmason43103 жыл бұрын
The Leppings lane end. It still has the same tunnel that funnel’d people to their death 🥺
@paigeleigh25543 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. JFT96 YNWA
@garethgriffiths38623 жыл бұрын
I'm a Forest supporter and i was a t the game, we had no information given to us about what was happening at the time, we didnt know what was going on until we got home and were able to watch the news.
@nosmokewithoutfire43573 жыл бұрын
Sadly it's 97 people who passed away with a death resulting from injury that day happening during the summer
@jefffoster16263 жыл бұрын
Not the fans fault at all !! That's the whole point of Justice for the 96 !! And the fight for 30 yrs to clear the names !! Tragedy that should never happen!! God bless . YNWA
@scouseEvoxian3 жыл бұрын
lad my dad was there with my uncle when this happened when my dad was 19 but he nearly died when he was there put people helped me dad get out of the croud justice for 96
@zeynepkonur13594 жыл бұрын
Hello there! I am a Beşiktaş supporter, please watch how the Beşiktaş supporter is, because you can't see it anywhere else in the world, while the Beşiktaş supporter had a world decibel record and also against Liverpool. I am waiting
@dosescopetastengo65814 жыл бұрын
Trust me, in Argentina every stadium is 100 times more hardcore than Besiktas.
@zeynepkonur13594 жыл бұрын
@@dosescopetastengo6581 If it were, why wouldn't he know it? I think
I was working in london that day, listening to southern radio, the commentater said, the scousers are at it again that remark destroyed me. Great to have a neutral opinion.
@kalinaphillips97794 жыл бұрын
At the time most football stadions had standing galleries (no seats) so there was always more people. This tragedy was a massive cover up. The death toll was (I think) 89 people. I think the youngest was in his early teens.
@paigeleigh25543 жыл бұрын
96
@piratesswoop7253 жыл бұрын
Youngest was 10 years old, a cousin of Steven Gerard. There were several 13, 14 and 15 year olds who died too.
@sarahpagett91913 жыл бұрын
I was 12 when this happened my uncle was a big utd fan who promised to take me i don't know if I was lucky but I couldn't go because I had tonsillitis to the 97 may you all rest in peace 😪
@1peter11803 жыл бұрын
most fans have tickets if not all
@Chris-zy7vn3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the uproar the weight of the law if 97 coppers law dead on the floor 🔥97🔥
@sarahpagett91913 жыл бұрын
Yeh 97 now 😪😪
@Chris_GY13 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing it on tv back in 1989. There was docu-drama made about it. I was watching Grandstand (it is a sports programme on BBC1 that featured multiple sports) at the time of the disaster unfolding, the programme went off the air in the late 90s (there was a similar programme on ITV now ITV1). The police blamed the fans but the man in charge that day has been dealt with by courts.
@paigeleigh25543 жыл бұрын
David Duckenfield has not been charged, and he was acquitted. On Thursday, the courts allowed another not guilty verdict. Yet again, this was a cover up, over another cover up.
@amarillagriffin74273 жыл бұрын
The police opened the gates and let fans in that had no ticket's, but the police tried to blame the fans.
@martinodoni8943 Жыл бұрын
Not really true. There were hardly any ticketless fans at all. It was poor stewarding of fans once they were in the stadium, sending them into enclosures that were already full, that caused the crush.
@julienewsome74712 жыл бұрын
It's good to remember the 97
@julienewsome74712 жыл бұрын
The design of the pens made it impossible for them.to escape, they have changed the designof the stadium now
@valiantval65393 жыл бұрын
You didwell putting thevideo up but othervideos show people being crushed against the barriers and others being helped over the fences, other people were being pulled up onto the upper terraces it will makeyou cry to seepeople actually dying.
@stephen-truthseeker3 жыл бұрын
I was at the game at that end.
@BrokeredHeart4 жыл бұрын
Descriptions from officers on the field sounded horrendous - they expected that when they opened the gates to the field that the pressure would let up enough for people walk out, but because they were crammed in together so tight, they couldn't budge. Just a wall of tangled humanity, turning blue and purple before their eyes. Even pulling on limbs to try and drag someone out was futile because they were being crushed under the weight of people up against the fence. I was aghast at the complete mismanagement from start to finish - a new police chief who didn't know anything about the sport, the lack of officers present on site, the absence of stadium staff to redirect people away from the single tunnel to the other pens that were further away from the turnstile entrance, and the inability to communicate the overflooded capacity inside. They didn't open the gates in enough time prior to the match, which is why there was such a huge crowd all shoving their way in, trying to get to their seats/sections before the opening kick. And to refuse to allow the fans to enter the stadium from other entrances over the insistence that the opposing fan bases must be kept separated for their own safety was just ridiculous. Liverpool had far more supporters in attendance, and they wouldn't create enough space for them. One bad decision precipitated another, and 96 people died as a result, leaving hundreds of broken, grieving families, and numerous others with emotional scars and PTSD for having suffered for the miscalculations of the very people charged with their safety. And then for them to turn the narrative around and blame the fans for their poor handling of the travesty, it added more insult to injury and stained the reputation of the Liverpool fan base for decades. Even more frustrating is that the match commander, the one who supposedly organized the police to monitor the match, was cleared of his charges for negligent manslaughter. As the mother of one of the victims asked the courtroom after the jury's verdict, "who put 96 people in their graves, who IS accountable?" I would suggest that you watch the documentary in full directed by Daniel Gordon (Hillsborough, 2014). It goes through the events prior to the match, the firsthand accounts of the people in the pen, the families of those who were crushed, the officers who were on the scene, and the investigators who went on to uncover the hidden documents that were kept secret from the public. There were written accounts by the police, coroner statements on the deceased, and statements from Bert McGee the stadium's chairman, after he ignored multiple FA reports that preceded the tragedy all expressing concerns on overcapacity and dangers in packing the field level terraces. It was a storm brewing that they did not adequately prepare for. They failed spectacularly, and I feel so sorry for all their loved ones who still have not received closure.
@Picnicl3 жыл бұрын
Just like many tragedies, several prior factors, coupled with neglectful, unwise, blindsighted, panicked, unhelpfully rigid, or devil may care decisions by the police coordination on the day, in combination made the tragedy possible, and made the rescue attempt by authorities themselves inadequate: 1 Football terraces had high fences erected to prevent pitch invasions 2 Cost concerns, laziness, or sheer 'if it isn't totally broke, don't fix it' by football clubs meant that awkward design at the turnstiles at Hillsborough was inappropriate. Concourses outside made of old brick, with narrow turnstiles, were more suited to sedate rural agricultural shows, not an urban mass of football supporters. Crash barriers within stands were basically just like metal poles - the general fittings of football clubs were harsh looking 3 Despite Liverpool having far more fans, they were allocated an entrance with far fewer turnstiles 4 Football hooliganism in the 1980s meant that football supporters, especially Liverpool supporters after Heysel, were treat with suspicion 5 The police chief in charge of coordination had no experience with big football matches. He either didn't know, care, or remember, to funnel fans more evenly in to pens 6 There may have been genuine concerns by the police that people would be crushed outside if the pressure wasn't relieved. However, Gate C was opened by the police without funneling. With so many people, that's like directing a power shower in to a bathroom sink that's got a plug in it 7 The police, perhaps fearing a pitch invasion or fearing what it would look like for their image, or perhaps just being conditioned to not believe or care about fans concerns, would not let people on to the pitch for some time. Who knows if that alone killed some more people too 8 The police only allowed two ambulances on the pitch. If more ambulances had been allowed on with fully trained paramedic staff, it is estimated that something like half of all fatalities might have been avoided Aftermath: The police lied, pretending that some fans forced the gate open. The Sun lied that fans had urinated on victims. Experts have later confirmed that, even if it's possible, as it always is, that some fans were ticketless, the number of fans outside could have all been safely funneled in to all the pens if an order had been given by the police chief for the match to be delayed
@carlforeman90604 жыл бұрын
Watch the Bradford City fire football match. Images are scary.
@neevex89093 жыл бұрын
It was a police officer who opened the leppings lane gates and they all rushed in the 3 and 4 benches! They were to many people and people got crushed and died the youngest death was 10 and the oldest 67!
@robbiestephenson8497 Жыл бұрын
Yesterday the south Yorkshire constabulary, have finally apologized, for the cause of this disaster
@Shagyamum3 жыл бұрын
Take a look at Bradford fire. Was in my city. Also bradford and Liverpool helped each other after both of these events
@thebobsful3 жыл бұрын
Anger and pain.
@mrgreenfingaz13 жыл бұрын
Watch the documentaries dude
@bobnot.4 жыл бұрын
It's ok to talk about and listening to the news feed is the story they were fed to by the police. It took a long time for the truth to come out. There were even turnstile tests afterwards that the amount of Liverpool fans asked to access was impossible. The amount of ticketless fans was very few and had no contributing facter the police opened a gate to relieve the crowd outside allowing them to stream in. The police/stadium officials failed to close what to most looked like a tunnel into the stadium but that was already full their were two pens either side that were relatively not very populated. The police lied and blamed fans breaking down a gate to ticketless fans to drunkeness they heavily edited policemans statements. It was heartbreaking. You dont offend to watch. I would reccomend the documentary Hillsborough. Not much ""based on" i find that to be a good job of the incident and the fight that was needed to get the truth out.
@bobnot.4 жыл бұрын
There were previous incidents at this ground including tottenham fans with broken limbs from crushing. The signs were there that this was a possibility. There was only one ambulance by 3:30pm a full half an hour later they were outside the ground being told there was fighting. So angry to this day just a sad indictment of how the lies. The Bradford fire is another sad indicment of how little care was taken a fire ripped through an entire stand within a few minutes.
@Muzzy334 жыл бұрын
Karma
@diktro23203 жыл бұрын
Please, make another video to learn the Heysel may 29 1985 tragedy. You will understand the reason.
@samwest62413 жыл бұрын
The gate was open as relief for outside as the crowds were terrible. No one understood what had happened until it was too late and even then it was a priority to cover there own arses rather than fix the problem. Because of what happened on here is why there are such strict crowd regulations. Some of the stories that broke after this to try to cover it up painting Liverpool fans as heartless criminals and to protect the police were heart breaking. It was said that fans were going through the wallets of people who had passed away and weren't helping.... All to make the police look better...
@konradlure87293 жыл бұрын
Justice for the 96
@julienewsome74712 жыл бұрын
They were crushed against the barriers
@ingobordewick6480 Жыл бұрын
The gate was not broken by the fans, the man in charge later admitted that he had lied about that and that he had comanded the gate to be open. So with no one there controling any tickets and no one leading the fans the right way, all of them rushed into the tunnel to pen 3&4, because that was the direct way. There was no one guiding them to the entrances of the nearly only half filled pens left and right. Not knowing what was happening in the front, they pressed the people to death against the fence. It was not the fault of the fans it was bad organisation and very bad decisions by the police. The police even pushed fans back that tried to climbe over the fence in an attempt to save their lives, calling them names doing so. This is a bad video of what happened, because all that was found out later about the cover up by the police is not in it. There are much better videos about that out there.
@improvesheffield48243 жыл бұрын
Living 10 minutes walk from the ground I was there that day to enjoy the atmosphere outside the ground on Leppings Lane so saw the build up but left before kick off. If you want a good understanding of what happened that day without having to listen to each side trying to cover their own backs then this is a good video of all the relevant CCTV footage. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnzdfJaYhLZ_p5Y The most important thing to note is from approximately 2.47pm onwards look at how packed the stand was but how many more fans were outside! You have to ask yourself why were these fans there? Clearly the ones with tickets were already inside the stadium. You can see earlier in the video the police were dealing with a crush situation outside the ground and there was a fear that a wall would collapse so they opened the gates to relieve that pressure. The mistake the police made is that they didn’t put officers and stewards in the right positions to direct fans into a lesser crowded part of the ground (there was a small amount of spare capacity in pen 2 but ideally the fans should have been stopped from going down the tunnel to pens 3 & 4 which is what ultimately caused the crush). Either way there were clearly more Liverpool fans there than there should have been and, as you heard in your video, Liverpool fans had a bit of a reputation for causing trouble at away grounds hence the mention of the Heysel stadium disaster. This happened just a few years earlier and the fact that a number of Liverpool fans had been convicted of manslaughter was obviously at the forefront of people’s minds as the events at Hillsborough unfolded. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heysel_Stadium_disaster
@martinodoni8943 Жыл бұрын
"If you want a good understanding of what happened that day without having to listen to each side trying to cover their own backs then this is a good video of all the relevant CCTV footage. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnzdfJaYhLZ_p5Y" Curious that you link to a video uploaded by the late Dan Kay, as he drew completely the opposite conclusions to the ones you have. - "The most important thing to note is from approximately 2.47pm onwards look at how packed the stand was but how many more fans were outside!" I have a number of photos of exactly that, and they show quite conclusively that there was a massive difference in congestion between the different pens, especially pens 1 & 2 compared to the central pens. The concrete floor of the wing pens is visible, which wouldn't be possible if they were more than about three-quarters full. I even have photos from as late as 3:01pm and they STILL show that the wing and corner pens were not full. See thegreatcritique.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/packed_central_pens-annotated.jpg You also sidestep the reality that the capacity of the Leppings Lane terrace had been dangerously over-estimated. Even in 1981, when there was just a continuous, uninterrupted terrace at that end of the ground, the capacity was deemed by outside observers to have been over-estimated by about 2,000, hence the near-disaster with the Tottenham Hotspur fans that year. Loads of extra fencing, including radial fences, had been put up on the terrace throughout the 1980s, creating a lot of severe pressure points, but at no stage did Sheffield Wednesday revise the capacity downwards from the clearly-excessive 10,100. By 1989, it should probably have been down as low as 7,000, but still Wednesday distributed tickets for Leppings Lane for 10,100 at the semi-final. - "You have to ask yourself why were these fans there? Clearly the ones with tickets were already inside the stadium." No. Some of 'the ones with tickets' were inside the stadium. Some were outside. You don't even notice the gigantic, lazy assumptions you're making; even if the Leppings Lane end really was as crammed at 2:47pm as you claim (and it wasn't) how do you come to the conclusion that the ones inside MUST be the ones with tickets and the ones outside must be gatecrashing? - "You can see earlier in the video the police were dealing with a crush situation outside the ground and there was a fear that a wall would collapse so they opened the gates to relieve that pressure." No. There was a worry that a *gate* might collapse, but given they were concertina exit gates, you would need Optimus Prime to hit one of them face on in lorry mode to knock it down. The fear was irrational. They opened the exit gates because there was a genuine danger to life in the overcrowding, NOT danger to property. - "The mistake the police made is that they didn’t put officers and stewards in the right positions to direct fans into a lesser crowded part of the ground" Yes, but that wasn't the only mistake they made. They'd established at the previous year's semi-final that filtering arriving spectators into queues up Leppings Lane from the stadium massively reduced the chaos that had been seen at, say, the 1981 and 1987 semis. Because the new Match Commander, David Duckenfield, knew pretty much nothing about the job he was doing, he never even realised that he was supposed to use that same technique, and so he didn't. Result was huge numbers of fans arriving in a disorganised mass, and often finding that they were heading for the wrong turnstile, because they were receiving no guidance. A more fundamental mistake the police had made at ALL semi-finals held at Hillsborough in the 1980s though was to insist that all the fans of one side be allocated only 23 turnstiles, all crammed into one tightly packed concourse outside the West Stand, while the other team got SIXTY turnstiles spread out thinly across the South Stand and the Kop end. - "(there was a small amount of spare capacity in pen 2 but ideally the fans should have been stopped from going down the tunnel to pens 3 & 4 which is what ultimately caused the crush)." Yes and no. There was LOADS of space in pen 2. There were masses of bare concrete visible in there. Even when it's about three-quarters full, a pen like that will have almost ZERO bare concrete visible. See this picture taken at 2:48pm - thegreatcritique.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/pen-6.jpg. As for pens 5 and 6, they were still so empty around that time that John Motson, while getting prepared to commentate for the BBC, actually called attention to how much space there still was. The only bit you are right about is that the police should have directed fans away from the tunnel under the West Stand, and to the entrances to the side-pens. But Sheffield Wednesday also take some blame, for poor signposting of the alternative entry points to the Leppings Lane terrace, and for the confusing information printed on the tickets, which led ALL entrants to the stadium at that end to think the tunnel was the only access point. - "Either way there were clearly more Liverpool fans there than there should have been" Oh really? Count them, did you? MI5 would love to recruit someone with your remarkable eye for detail. But no, absolutely not. The Health & Safety Executive used data from the stadium's admissions system plus headcounts of spectators entering through the exit gates via CCTV footage. They concluded that the number of spectators on the Leppings Lane terrace roughly matched the 10,100 ticket allocation. They couldn't be completely precise of course, but the rough counts they took concluded that, if anything, the physical attendance was a couple of hundred BELOW the ticketing allocation - 9,834. See more on this here; thegreatcritique.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/hillsborough-ticketlessness-was-not-a-factor-and-this-is-how-we-know/ - "and, as you heard in your video, Liverpool fans had a bit of a reputation for causing trouble at away grounds hence the mention of the Heysel stadium disaster." Irrelevant. Amazing how often people from Sheffield in particular keep raising Heysel when it is Hillsborough that is under discussion. Clear geographical guilt coming into play. Anything to draw attention away from how shoddy the stadium was. Also quite absurd to imply that hooligan trouble was a particularly Liverpool-fan business. Fans from other parts of the country, including parts of Yorkshire itself (especially Leeds United fans) had FAR worse records of bad behaviour than Liverpool fans. It's only because people died at Heysel that Liverpool's reputation was so heavily tarnished, but the deaths of the Juventus fans, tragic though they were, were inadvertent and were only indirectly a result of the way Liverpool fans behaved. - "This happened just a few years earlier and the fact that a number of Liverpool fans had been convicted of manslaughter was obviously at the forefront of people’s minds as the events at Hillsborough unfolded." An open declaration of prejudice. You are a very unreliable commentator. What happened at Heysel is irrelevant, because the people who caused trouble at Heysel were not at Hillsborough. We also do not need to study Heysel to establish what happened at Hillsborough, because the evidence we have from Hillsborough is encyclopaedic and overwhelming. Raising Heysel is a distraction that can only prejudice any conclusions. So with your clear desire to draw attention away from Sheffield Wednesday's responsibility, do you have any answers to the following? A) What is the explanation for the stadium's safety certificate being eight years out of date at the time of the Disaster? B) Why did the fallen crush barrier (124a) in pen 3 have rust actually visible to the naked eye on the joints connecting it to the surface of the terrace? See thegreatcritique.wordpress.com/2013/11/22/hillsborough-the-crush-barriera-smoking-gun/ C) Why did crush barrier 124a have at least 13 different coats of paint, plus a copy of the Yorkshire Telegraph & Star newspaper scrolled up inside it that was dated from 24th September 1931? D) Why did several of the turnstiles at the Leppings Lane end keep breaking down as ticketed Liverpool fans made an honest attempt to enter the stadium? E) Why did the central tunnel under the West Stand have no signage near it to alert people to alternative entrances that would have taken them into the side pens? F) Why was a stretch of barrier removed from crush barrier 136, creating an open 'pressure channel' leading from the foot of the tunnel directly onto barrier 124a? G) Why did the central tunnel have too steep a gradient, making it difficult for fans heading down it to stop or turn around? H) Why did the Leppings Lane terrace have too FLAT a gradient, making movements more dangerous when it was crowded? I) Why was the capacity of the Leppings Lane terrace never re-calculated downwards after the police had asked for it to be revised in the aftermath of the Spurs fans getting crushed there in 1981? A legitimate answer to every single one of these questions is, "Sheffield Wednesday Football Club was guilty of gross negligence."
@grumpsgaming4 жыл бұрын
All the fans had tickets. The announcer was given a statement by the police and they blamed the fans for it. It wasn't fans with no tickets at all. I hope you aim to correct this offensive statement.
@FootballFury4 жыл бұрын
Not all fans had tickets
@davvalaa70244 жыл бұрын
@@FootballFury you need to stop
@sarahfox39594 жыл бұрын
Not all fans had tickets that day but they didn't cause this disaster. However, they should never have been allowed to get near the ground in the first place. In previous years, a police cordon was set up around the stadium to check tickets, those that didn't have one were turned away. The unlawful killing of 96 people was down to poor organisation by Dunkenfield, who then laid blame on the people he'd just killed - and got away with it scot free! My only comfort, he knows the truth, he knows it was his fault and has to live with it.
@booshter97144 жыл бұрын
@@FootballFury true. But not enough to cause the crush. Leaving the tunnel open and not diverting fans to the empty pens killed fans.
@rosiedollface3 жыл бұрын
Like someone said, reacting to what was being said in the video by commentators - who were also just reading things they thought were true... the police here are evil.
@davidwaterhouse74903 жыл бұрын
I have so much to say about that day,,, I’m lucky two of my close live long friends come home that day... At 16 so close... God rest and god bless these beautiful people,,, and there families... No it was the police son...🤛🤛🤛
@peterfinn60983 жыл бұрын
Haah also i noticed your translator cannot understand Liverpudlian accent and the words are not found or accurate lol
@dyread2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't non ticket holders fault at all. The commentator said that at the time as he was led to believe that. It turned out that there were other factors such as police putting most people into two stands when they should have been spread over them all, and in the end the police opened a gate, letting people in (who had tickets). They were all put in the one area. You need to watch a better documentary about it, which shows what the police did wrong, and I'm not totally sure but after a number of inquests all of the original claims were false and they blamed the police as they should have done all along
@Peter-mt2bg Жыл бұрын
Please remember the commentary he is listening to is the commentary at the time. It is completely inaccurate. The gates were opened by the police and the fans where all shepherded into the centre section of the terrace and that is the reason for he crush and massive loss of life. It was only the start of the incompetence shown by the people in charge. THEN THE COVER IP STARTED!!! Justice for the 97
@julienewsome74712 жыл бұрын
You are right it was the police at fault
@jacquelinecrosby7053 Жыл бұрын
I watched it while it was happening.
@roryconway93424 жыл бұрын
Stop using the death of 96 innocent Liverpudlians for views.
@Stanratatoulie3 жыл бұрын
he is not
@richardscott81463 жыл бұрын
The police said originally it was liverpool hooligans what a lie and a police fail,as usual
@kirstydthomas3 жыл бұрын
YNWA
@he_is_a_GOOBER_dont_disrespect2 жыл бұрын
97 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@graingerzx10r3 жыл бұрын
Police E.G LIERS! It was never to do with the fans!
@samlatope4532 Жыл бұрын
I was there bruv ! 13 years old in the Nottingham Forest end ! Still haunted by this awful day !
@markrichards6362 жыл бұрын
Police doing what they do best....
@shazzzabanazz47892 жыл бұрын
Had nothing to do with fans it was ground owners and police that caused it
@raywesterside31792 жыл бұрын
That is a lie it was not the fans without tickets, bad ground policing.
@Suturner374 Жыл бұрын
This is completely wrong the fans didn’t break the gate they opened it even ppl with tickets was outside x
@slimblu13 жыл бұрын
Such false representation. Liverpool's fans/supporters rallied together to help the injured. The powers that be should still hold their heads in shame. That's why I wouldn't wipe my arse with a copy of The S*n.
@heliotropezzz333 Жыл бұрын
The subtitles are full of mistakes and unable to cope with the Liverpool accent.
@concrete_jungle4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s really distasteful to make what seems like a reaction video to this disaster
@SubcribeMinecraftNOW4 жыл бұрын
I think it's good because it helps shed light on the tragedy and he was acting very respectful about the whole ordeal
@BigDickIbou4 жыл бұрын
Esketxd or to get money from views I bet he monetised this
@barneyb1857 Жыл бұрын
Was born in 82 and a forest fan all my life, my uncle wanted to take me to this game but my mum thought I was too young to go, she just had that mother's feeling and was right something would happen that that day, the police should rot in hell
@scottgriffin73513 жыл бұрын
Open the gates
@paulflynn75644 жыл бұрын
I am a Liverpool fan
@Tom-nb6lj4 жыл бұрын
U been to anfield?
@adlonsolion47114 жыл бұрын
I am a forest fan
@jefffoster16263 жыл бұрын
One ambulance!!! Ffs
@rosiedollface3 жыл бұрын
There were about 4 I think during those few minutes... there's a video of two on the grounds, they actually forced their way into the ground... the police were c***s.
@martinodoni8943 Жыл бұрын
It was three. Should have been about 40 though
@gotodhgaming9314 жыл бұрын
cambodia park udom bro
@squid27644 жыл бұрын
Justice for the 96. Us Scousers fuckin stick together through thick and thin no mater what!!!! People have picked on our city for decades and we’ve always stood together and stood up for what’s right!!! I love my city ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@Tom-nb6lj4 жыл бұрын
Liverpool fans wanted to be in the middle pen, plenty of space in the other 2 even with the extra fans
@Tom-nb6lj4 жыл бұрын
@John Cornell not really mate, ppl screamed at them to stop going in to the central pens, the crush went on for a while before they opened the gates onto the pitch and in that time more and more ppl kept entering the central pens
@Tom-nb6lj4 жыл бұрын
@John Cornell simply not true mate
@marcwarren59853 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-nb6lj luckily a court of law had a better opinion than you
@Tom-nb6lj3 жыл бұрын
@@marcwarren5985 a court of law agrees with me mate, there has been 11 hearing and all of them have gone in favour of the police officer over the fans, that 11 sets of totally random jury’s who have all unanimously agreed with it
@marcwarren59853 жыл бұрын
@@Tom-nb6lj ok i will just pass this comment onto the the JFT96 campaign then mate. Since you know fuck all
@samlatope4532 Жыл бұрын
Locked in for over 45 minutes ! Don't cuss us ! We didn't know ! But we shut up !
@samlatope4532 Жыл бұрын
We did when them bodies on boards was in our penalty box