How not to suck at singing!

[@justinguitar]

*More tips & free lessons:* www.justinguitar.com/guitar-lessons/learning-to-sing-bg-1903

[@macklu7571]

Hey Justin, I am a returning guitar player using your iPhone leasons app and am on module 9 now. Will you have any singing with guitar lessons on your app?

[@Jeb4100]

how did you post this comment 8 days ago when this video uploaded 1 day ago?

[@perro0076]

@@Jeb4100 Justin is a talented guy. He's also figured out time travel :-)

[@Jeb4100]

@@perro0076 woah

[@stanharris368]

po

[@eagles_s]

Thats such bulls***. People trolling you about your singing. Meanwhile youre giving high quality lessons of your lifes work for free. My favorite part if your lessons is when you sing the chord voicings.

[@gristamshackleford2102]

lol welcome to youtube, there could be a 5 star professional who made millions, giving a lesson and there still gonna be ppl saying they suck and are doing it wrong

[@andrewmanzevich1186]

Pay no attention to the very few negative people who have nothing better to do. Huge amount of positive responses to read and are well earned. Justin is an absolute gem

[@jpr4212]

Couldn't agree more.

[@Johnny1.0]

Haters gonna hate

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

this is one of the better start to sing vids I have ever seen. and he is a good singer, yes comments are often attacking on any music 🎵🎶 or artistic videos. thanks for calling them out!!!!

[@qldsafari]

You’re just such a breath of fresh air mate, music for the rest of us So many have quit because of purists. You make it ok to be just ok ❤️❤️❤️

[@wjs569]

Well said. Purists, both teachers and students have discouraged more players than anything else. Its about the joy of playing and singing

[@BryanM362]

Very true! We can train to be pretty good, but may start off not so good... Negative feedback can kill our desire to even try!

[@orangeiceice12]

Being okay is how you get good. Purists either don't remember, are jealous of their ability, or suck.

[@theabhorrentchef7226]

I can’t sing very well, but I can’t just play a song without singing lol. Nirvana and everlast. A lot of their songs work well enough for my voice to not send everything in earshot running

[@michaelmcevoy9281]

Hi Justin, I have never commented before.Recently, I met my guitar hero by pure accident. In Melbourne, I attended the Tommy Emmanuel concert which was superb! The following morning I went for breakfast with my wife at a little restaurant near the threatre. We were seated right next to Tommy and a friend. I had a lovely exchange with him and I treasure the meeting. Your lessons are absolutely sensational!! Apart from your guitar talent and singing, your personality is a real gift. You explain thins so well and you are a champion for all us aspiring guitar players. From the bottom of my 72 year old heart, thanks mate!!

[@anxylum]

OMG, when you started the “quiet singing” and the “talk singing” I literally teared up a little. This is the advice I’ve been looking for. I wish I would have had this video 36 years ago. Thank you. ❤️

[@fbekker1838]

OMG? Omiggoshini mankaboko Garadoda?

[@brianwoodard339]

Justin’s videos are like that good friend that you can sometimes lose touch with, but when you reconnect you remember why they are such a good friend. This was a helpful video. Thanks.

[@theshwen2218]

I’ve been dealing w some serious depression for a long time and trying to learn guitar and sing helps me cope. I suck at both still but just watching your lessons honestly does give me hope. You’ve got a great character and refreshing honesty and directness that I love. I strive to be a little more that myself. Thank you.

[@barbaracostello8187]

Hang in there Shwen. I also find a lot of comfort in music and love Justin's videos. If you're having fun keep doing it, I also suck at both singing and playing but I don't care, it's fun. 🙂

[@Andy-6652]

I started playing just before I lost it with anxiety and depression. Guitar, even a few minutes a day was the only thing I could do and helped me immensely. Stick with it and know that there's always light at the end of the tunnel. You will feel better.

[@ravenartsandgraphics4456]

I can SO relate. Keep your head held high!

[@quirkygreece]

The point at the end about confidence is sooooo valid, as is your earlier point about feeling comfortable. I used to “sing in my head” because I thought my voice was so bad, but then I realised I wasn’t playing the tune I was “singing”. I’m a woodworker and I made a really nice guitar hanger that I was proud of, then, shortly afterwards we had a couple of very close friends over for dinner and they remarked on the guitar hanging on the wall. They asked if I would play something and I made all the excuses about singing, but they insisted and as they are good friends I decided I didn’t mind sounding like a clown - I knew they wouldn’t be too harsh on me, so I cracked out Streets of London and was both surprised and pleased when they all (including my wife) started clapping. I was happy that my friends were being kind to me, but then they asked me to sing another song! I was surprised, because I don’t think I would want to listen to me singing twice, but as I had the instrument in my hand I did Hotel California and got an even louder clap! The point of this tale is that I know (and so do they) that I’ll never be a great singer, BUT, what I did was to share some joy and that was the biggest motivator to make me sing more often. So, in summary (I know it’s a long post, sorry), I would say, find some songs you like, sing while you practice, play for friends and family and just be happy - happiness is what music is all about, surely? (unless you’re a Leonard Cohen fan, of course, lol).

[@rucku45]

I wish this response had a love like button ❤

[@duttdits]

This man is a national treasure and we must protect him. 😇

[@greyfox6449]

Helpful lesson Justin. I’m 74 years . I usually sing “in my head” when I play, but of course that’s not my own voice. I found the singy / talky in a low voice method very helpful.

[@tronddahle]

Yeah. Me too. I am only 60 years old.😀

[@Piratetude]

Me too. I'm 67, same thing. I took advice from another comment about tuning down a full step, and with my singy/talky voice, I'm having a lot of fun with it. If you try it, Sixteen Tons and Wellerman are fun. Thanks.

[@aureliomartinez2633]

I'm turning 60 today and just about 5 years ago I decided to learn play guitar and sing from cero today after those years I'm still feel lost but I just want to keep going my main motivation is retirement and be able to an joy time with music I have learn basic cords but having difficulties strumming make it sound like music to my ears Singing since I have no idea what is my range I'm just jumping from all over I'm part a singing choir in my church but I want more 80 percent at list

[@sophieoshaughnessy9469]

This is a wonderful lesson. You are one of the “demystifier”teachers that I really admire. You get down to students level and it shows your dedication as an educator. Thank you Justin.

[@jeremyb4102]

So talented, yet so humble. Just an awesome human.

[@mrtambourineman6107]

My number 1 desire in learning guitar is not fast lead etc, but to be able to play and sing songs on acoustic to a decent standard. So I jumped on this!

[@mickdawes1297]

This is an outstanding lesson. You have hit the nail on the head. I picked up the guitar a couple of years ago and went onto many KZbin sites to learn the basics of guitar playing. Your tutorials are by far the best I have experienced - and there have been a lot - you are a born teacher. This singing tutorial is the best advice you have given. We are not all Pavarotti, but we all have a voice. I heard that Karen Carpenter had an extremely quiet singing voice and benefited from amplification. The world would have been a poorer place if she was told not to sing.

[@livinglifewholefoods]

Did a youtube search and now I'm in love with those songs and her voice. Thank you for mentioning.

[@ilikebanjo]

Hey Mick! You're exactly right about Karen Carpenter. Justin's comments about not straining/pushing or singing too loudly reminded me of an excerpt from a biography called "Little Girl Blue, The Life of Karen Carpenter". Karen was being driven to the studio with one of her friends and as she was warming up and singing in the car the friend was totally surprised how quiet her singing voice really was. It was mentioned in the book that Karen let the microphone do the work. It's a great read if you like the Carpenters.

[@sorlowski78]

Still the best singing lesson for guitarists on youtube. Thank you mate!

[@jeffcote6649]

Justin's the best man! I love him. 1.5 million subscribers, he's doing something right. Did his free electric guitar lessons, ended up paying for his lesson app. Best investment ever made other then my buying my first electronic guitar. Learned so much from him, opened up a whole new world. I've watched and listened to other KZbinrs, they are great as well. Justin is the best though and I am grateful for everything he has taught me.

[@jatin7361]

Regarding dynamics. You're 100% spot on, Justin. The best analogy I've heard is your first day at the gym. If you go for max weights on your first day, nothing good will come of it. If you take your time and start light, over time, you will build your muscles and the strength will come. Very similar to working out our vocal chords and voices.

[@jimicunningable]

I recorded myself despite hating my voice. My singers have all told me to start singing. I was convinced I sounded bad. To my astonishment, I'm not a bad vocalist when I pick my fights well. GL, YOU GOT THIS!!!

[@stevesmith5481]

Justin this is a wonderful and encouraging lesson. I'm persisting with learning to sing along to my guitar tunes and this video helps on so many levels. You have such a genuine helpful character, simply one of the brightest stars in the universe of the internet!

[@chefshap]

Justin I am so grateful for your videos. You have made a tremendous difference for me. Now you’ve taken it to a whole other level. Proper singing has been extremely difficult for me. This video has blown up my impression of what signing could be if I stop straining to reach a note the way I hear it. I’m excited to work with these exercises. So grateful for who you are and your commitment to teaching and improving.

[@shiannbengtay5810]

Love this guy! He's unpretentious, and such a natural teacher with whom you can easily follow and learn. ❤❤❤

[@daveyarwine1513]

Justin- as a preformer of 20 years plus, I have to say I have STILL learned much from your video. And yes! You have improved! Thank you for humility and approach. I'm a folk singer and while voice lessons are great,I'm not Mr. American idol. This video was the best I've seen for helping in a super practical way. Most videos I see are without the addition of the guitar. Thank you so much!!

[@mykneeshurt8393]

"when you are learning a new skill, its completely normal to suck at it". TRUTH. Keep falling down and getting back up. Great video Justin!

[@tallpaul8880]

Perfect timing again! One thing I’ve noticed about your singing is that you’ve really nailed your Neil Young tone. One of my favorites. ✌🏻🇺🇸

[@retlod]

How do you inspire people? Prove you share or have shared in their struggles. Kudos to you, sir, for doing just that. You're already helping teach me to play the guitar; now you might start teaching me to sing as well!

[@StratsRUs]

I've found that over time, the vocal lessons do become part of you and work their magic.And your true voice comes through.Minus all that posture and ' Musical Show' tone. You are great, Justin.Mind-boggling how much help you have given to so many !Thanks

[@NewYork-zg9iu]

This is the best video ever for a guitarist trying to learn to sing. Most others deal with the fancy vocal coaching stuff which is probably more relevant for singer-only people. Awesome work mate.

[@edinchiangmai]

Man! The reason I subscribed to you is because you are real. Much better for me to learn from someone who is also still learning. Much more comfortable and encouraging to learn from someone who is honest and humble about their own talent. Thank you.

[@stephenbeddows]

Fascinating Jason. I'm still not there yet but I now think in similar terms. I try to "inhabit" a song, I spent too long trying to sing a Dylan song (for example) in his style. Much better to do your own interpretation. Unfortunately most of the stuff I like to do is by American singers and it hard to not try and effect a fake accent. As I said it's work in progress but your lesson is a huge inspiration. Many thanks.

[@I.M.Guitar-Nerd]

Just brilliant! The best guitar teacher on KZbin.

[@anxylum]

Yes! The recording helps so much. I had to start out recording just my speaking voice at first, for a couple of months. No music, no singing. I’ve hated my voice so much for so long, but after several months of recording, I’m starting to be able to at least listen back to some of it so that I can see what needs to be worked on.

[@tazzminion9556]

I wish I would have had this video years ago. It sounds like a great starting point for total beginners and people who have low confidence in their singing. I had quite the same issues like you did and thought that I'll never be able to sing. I actually committed to taking singing lessons from local teachers, because quiting was no option for me. But I only experienced a noteworthy breakthrough after I got to my fourth teacher, one that was seeing me as an individual person and focusing on my voice and not standard lessons. So it definitely depends on how well you teacher fits to you, if your teacher trains your individual voice and doesn't simply use standard vocal exercises and most importantly how persistent you are. It took me over 4 years to get to a point where I like my singing voice and am confident enough not to feel hurt by other people's opinions. I believe it could have gone faster if my start weren't so rocky. Justin you're definitely one of the best teachers out there! You can even give valuable information about matters out of your expertise.

[@robertprentiss6124]

You are my favorite online guitar teacher and I have noticed a marked improvement in your singing. Thanks for sharing these tips, they obviously worked for you!

[@merrillsutherin9530]

This was an awesome lesson. I have always felt that I can’t sing and was told I was tone deaf. I sing when I play alone and no one can hear me, but I don’t have the confidence even then. I know I hit the right note once in awhile and csn sing when I am singing along with the record or someone, so I know the ability is there. Anyway, this lesson has been an inspiration for me and I will do the ‘exercises’ you have mentioned. Thank you so much and I would love a sequel lesson to this one.

[@cirisirpula152]

Keep on singing! I especially like when you sing the chord names in song tutorials, it is both useful and fun

[@georgjosko436]

I learned for singing more than the last years. Thank you so much 👍👍😃😃😃Best wishes from Germany

[@donandrues17]

I spent A whole afternoon, looking at a bunch of KZbin singing coaches. All of them were giving anything but the basics which is all I wanted. Your video was a home run! Thanks so much!

[@eoghancraw]

Thanks

[@justinguitar]

Thanks for the thanks 😊

[@TheAliden]

Thanks!

[@justinguitar]

Thanks for the thanks 😊

[@b2cool412tame]

I've been struggling to learn guitar/sing and I came across this channel and I've been down this rabbit hole for hours... but I feel like I've learned more than I have in months on my own. Thank you Justin for these videos, you have no idea how much it helps and how happy that makes me

[@saidutube]

You´re awesome! i paid for your beginners course this year and feel so genuinely grateful for your contribution to this space. I sincerely hope you never get tired of hearing me say ¨Thank you" Greetings from Patagonia Chile!!

[@trilobitalbino]

I wish I could meet Justin in person one day, because, man, do I wanna hug this dude.

[@edwinwoods8294]

i m a singer for 30 yrs .. this is good advice .. I ve given vocal lessons .. The biggest thing is that when you sing , you need project ...obviously pitch is important ..

[@livetoride911]

I been watching your videos for at least 10 years and your singing has improved immensely...I'm am sincerely surprised how much you have improved! Well done!

[@williamcraft815]

Thanks Justin. You’ve made such a difference in my guitar playing…and now my singing!

[@justinguitar]

Thanks for the thanks 😊

[@HRJ1411]

Great vid Justin, I’m no singer, but any improvement I’ve made was directly due to recording and listening back! Thanks for all the tips

[@Bedlam83]

This is extremely encouraging for an amateur like me. Thanks. :)

[@tobiaszunk9416]

Hey Justin, thank you so much for your tutorials in general and your help!! Without your videos I wouldn't have learned how to play the guitar so quickly! This video is also perfect and excactly what I was missing on my guitar journey atm!! You're absolutely correct: Most people just want not to suck at singing (including me). It seems to me that many tips you find elsewhere in the internet assume that you already know how to hit every note. You said so many true things in your video that reminded me of that I'm not alone with this problem. So thank you for that! It's also comforting to know that even you had some issues with your singing in the beginning and it is a long process to become a good singer. Some are more talented than others, but it also can be seen as an instrument that needs some practice to be learned. Anyway the most important thing I wanted to say (besides thank you) is: I highly appreciate it when you sing in your videos to demonstrate the songs. It just makes much more sense that way and I think you have a beautiful voice! So please keep it up!!

[@grantmorgan4508]

Great tutorial Justin. What I like about your videos, is that you always come across as genuinely wanting to help people. You have a warm personable style and that allows people to be able to really understand what you are saying. In that way, you are a true communicator. Keep up the good work.

[@WillPlano]

Thanks for this, I have to say, I super appreciate your singing in your tutorials.

[@bartmitcham9697]

I found holding the back of the guitar close to my chest and feeling the vibrations really helped me.

[@alihanvarkan]

Hi Justin! Thank you for this awesome free lessons. Learned so much from your channel and keep learning while enjoying it (isn't that the point?). What sparked my interest in your teaching was that I think your understanding of music and art in general is great. Expressing feelings via music is a gift and I think sometimes people are so concentrated on the music part and forget the feelings. Worry, fear of failure, pressure to make it sound "right" creates the strain and this is a beautiful paradox :) if you wanna sing better, don't worry too much about singing better. Let yourself to make mistakes and accept them joyfully, that's how any human learns anything. It's important to point this out because most artists and aspiring artists have a tendency to act perfectionistic and keep criticizing every mistake. That kind of behaviour can steal the joy and hinders the progress. You are very well aware of that and your videos have a therapeutic effect which fairly supports the learning journey and this is one of the prominent reasons why you are an awesome teacher. Thank you.

[@kimbedell9216]

Thank you Justin. It really helps me when you sing with the lesson. I appreciate the guitar lessons and I love to sing. Any time you help with singing it's a huge bonus. Thank you so much.

[@davetownsend4407]

Brilliant lesson and totally agree with singing teachers taking me a different direction - this lesson was really helpful thank you so much.

[@foolsgold8486]

You are such a fun and down to earth teacher.. great to listen to. Cheers

[@gilrod4257]

Wow! There is not too many people talking about finding your own voice. Thanks, great tips!!

[@johngeorgemurr6256]

So good feels like your hitting right note with me Justin on same wave length keep it up thanks a lot.

[@alexdieudonne1924]

Your words are mine exact ones. Love to play can't sing to save myself! Thanks for post and being honest.

[@electron7373]

I can't sing but your ideas around hitting the right pitch, even in a soft voice, are really useful and I might even give it a go. Thanks Justin!

[@michael0569]

Thank you,,I’ve been told over and over that I sing out of key,,luckily,at my age it doesn’t bother me,,but I want to sing better ,I picked up a uke and love it and love singing,,recording my voice and playin it back has helped,,

[@joejohnston5859]

As I've learned from all your lessons, I absorb bits and pieces from all of them, and they all represent forward movement and improvement. You're an excellent teacher. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and talent!

[@craigpriceguitarist]

Thank you for this video, after playing in bands for over 30 years and never considering myself able to sing this has given me the confidence to actually have a go and at my next gig I'm hoping to sing a lead vocal for the first time ever

[@grahamfreer7157]

Been following you Justin since I started playing 14 yrs. ago & you made comments during some of those early tutorials that your not gonna sing because you can't, you”be since found your confidence & your voice....sounds great....cheers mate 🍻

[@loribrown6734]

You are the BEST Justin. Feel like you were speaking right to me. I LOVE to sing but alas was not gifted a great voice. Love all the helpful tips! I can carry my own singing softly!

[@davidstapley7203]

Justin, you are spot on, my teacher for guitar and singing, my friend Daniel Boone, taught me the same. Good lesson

[@felixVanDiemen]

Thanks Justin, you are a wonderful teacher and a gifted communicator 🙏

[@michelle-psl4441]

Really brilliant lesson and tips, Justin! Been singing my whole life, have had many lessons, and still learned so much from this video. Two thumbs up for listening to the original song over and over again to learn the melody and nuances, and recording yourself and listening and correcting. I do this all the time. And Capo is my best friend!😊

[@hillchaf222]

Your Good

[@ianmackenzie686]

Excellent tutorial! Thank you! For those of us with quieter voices who also play instruments, learning how to properly use a microphone becomes imperative. That should be the next lesson.

[@anxylum]

That would be a great lesson!

[@MarkPermann]

17:11 I find working out the melody on the guitar especially helpful when I am transposing the song to a key better for my voice. Particularly useful at high points where your memory of the song can cloud your singing ear.

[@Bonecrusherdl]

What a great man, thanks for this superb tutorial. The Bob Ross of guitar playing

[@hassaanbinshaheen]

You are amazing Justin!

[@mattpowell5394]

Great video - You make singing accessible.

[@keithdavies100]

Oh this is just a brilliant video, Justin. This could have been specifically to/for me - everything in it resonated, from vocal coaches, strumming a bit too hard and therefore straining to match the volume, negative feedback from people, the lot. Tips like working out the melody on guitar - so obvious once you say it, "copying" singers you like in the way you'd lift a guitarist's licks etc, are incredibly helpful. Thanks so much - I''m going to keep coming back to this one. Well done, fella!

[@rucku45]

Such a great guy thank you I love all your lessons so far

[@dongossett110]

Nice lesson. Not enough of this sort of thing out there for guitar students who would like to begin singing a bit.

[@jlee54]

Yes! Please do a follow up. Thank you, Justin!

[@gregmaxwell3184]

When you taught Time Warp it helped me immensely and I laughed so hard. You showed your mistakes and it helped me overcome my anxiety about singing Thank you!

[@billweaver6092]

Brilliant again Justin. I’m still struggling with guitar, but your relaxed an practical has been a great encouragement to keep gong. And this video was amazing - it appeared, at least, to be recorded in one hit - well done.

[@FeelingShred]

one take... amazing 🙏

[@burnscheadle]

A thousand thanks for this-the most useful advice I have ever heard to help me work on building confidence in my-quite frankly-absolutely mediocre singing. This lesson was a real gem!

[@PhotoPilgrim]

Thank you. You have given me some inspiration to give it another go.

[@framirrx8433]

Thank you Justin for your simple and honest tutorial.

[@niffumau]

Your singing has improved so much.

[@giovannamonteiro7216]

This is a very sweet, helpful and honest video...thank you !!!

[@Hueho1]

Danke!

[@justinguitar]

Thanks for the thanks 😊

[@lindseyschwartz3374]

This was one of the best lessons you've done. I was hoping you would give us a before and after sound.

[@joanspac]

I sing on Smule all the time, it's great to practice and listen to your recordings

[@guidonelliot5926]

I learned a lot of guitar from you as a beginner years ago. I never minded your singing , it beats guitar teachers that won't even have a go at it. It helped, so good job

[@jimgower5925]

Keep going man! Your singing is a helpful part of your guitar lessons.

[@Aarrmehearties]

Thank you, I had an absolute shocker of a singing teacher "I say, you do" would not discuss anything, did not prepare me to deal with stage fright etc. I like this approach much more.

[@ponzo1967]

This is a cool episode for us guitarists hesitant to sing although we understand music in general to a point. Thanks Justin you've always done solid job vocally and I'm ready to learn Let's Go!

[@razmac175]

Justin have followed you for many years. Watched this video of your tips for singing. Its brilliant. So simple precise and honest. Well done mate. Ray.

[@copbabycombo1311]

Thank you so much. I've been trying to find a video like this for so long. This video is so helpful

[@genewallenstein8108]

Fantastic lesson as usual - thanks Justin!

[@mannynicolosi9585]

In terms of personality, modesty and empathy/care for your viewers, you are at the top of the list Justin. I have learnt countless songs off of your channel. Your accuracy and patience are so helpful to players across the ability spectrum. Do not be put off by hateful morons who get off on trying to bring loftier souls down to their level. Shine on brother as you’ve done for countless years.

[@trish2180]

Perfect timing since I’ve just started to upload my videos, 🤣😭 I’ve only been playing for 2 years, but now I can change chords without thinking about it, so next stage for me is to improve my singing. So thank you 🤩✌🏻

[@LauraFowlerMassie]

Thanks so much! I always find your honest and straightforward approach to teaching SO helpful!

[@satz112]

Your singing really improved a lot over the last years, good job

[@Reapprsr1]

Thank you Justin for this great lesson “Learning to Sing.” I needed the talk …and encouragement. Your discussion about being relaxed is so very important. First time I ever got the urge to sing, I had just listened to the conversation song Dialogue (Chicago V -wood album). Robert Lamm (a singer for sure) wrote the song, but Terry Kath and Peter Cetera sang the vocals trading back and forth throughout Part I. Terry sounds open and soulful and is contrasted by Peter’s higher register, tight sound. As shown in widely available videos, Peter chewed gum while singing - I believe he did it to relax the stress of the performance. The separate concerned/carefree parts of the written lyrics seem opposite to the two different singing styles (soulful-low versus high-tight). Both Terry and Peter had to have been very relaxed to be able to sing and also play their instruments when performing Dialogue live. Your other great point, that finding one’s natural range (or wheelhouse), is very good. Thank you Justin - your work is always very much appreciated!

[@JoBrew]

I love your tutorials and really appreciate them. I never thought your vocals ‘sucked’ and I appreciate that you always sing with enthusiasm and ❤

[@wsavage3696]

I think you are one of the very best teachers!! And you sing great in my opinion. I love that you play and sing with your lessons. You give the best well rounded lessons by doing so. One guitar teacher I also watch always apologizes with each lesson for his singing and says it’s for reference only. He is so sweet. It’s sad you get negative rude comments. So I hope these words of appreciation help brighten your day. Thank you for all you do!!

[@wsavage3696]

Joni Mitchell Both Sides Now Could you do a lesson in this one? Maybe fingerpicking one? Or simple strumming version?

[@g.j.schreuder7152]

Rude comments always come from people who think they are almost Robert Plant or so. Just do your thing. Thank you for your positive comment.

[@andyperry807]

This is the first lesson that should be taught to all musicians. And repeated when needed, How beneficial! Even at my age this applies to other endeavors as well, thank you!