How Much Money Do I Really Make?

[@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain]

If you're dying to hear The Age of Darkness, you can listen to it here on KZbin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKi1iqymhreMm9E

[@MariaFrancesca]

It might actually be the funniest song I've ever heard 🙂Genius!

[@Rocksarum]

You should definitely record for the next album a second part called The Age of Darkness II (as it was done with The Unforgiven, The Unforgiven II, The Unforgiven III) It would be ace!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ZuzuTheLemon]

I feel like the Hawkins clan would really enjoy the big trebuchet at Warwick Castle

[@NinStardust]

Strange coincidence that I’ve been listening to it for the last week or so. Even played it to my Mum yesterday & she loved it! The lyrics are absolutely brilliant!

[@sah-win]

Maybe on the day that Jenny didn’t correct Brian May on their “shared” last name the person noting the songwriters of this tune was in the area with them?

[@cbpoppet1288]

It's good to see Shaggy and Velma are still friends after all these years :D

[@TheHarrip]

Okay, that's funny. 😊 you get away with one haha

[@HoldenMagroin2]

😂😂😂

[@petemeredith806]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@georginathompson3788]

One of the funniest comments ever!

[@paulhutchings8002]

😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂

[@5h0wmanX]

Honestly, how many other musicians would be so candid about all this (within reason obviously)- this will be such a help to new artists in not getting screwed over Well done Justin 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@LarkVsOwl-de3op]

The Jenny Show is always better with Justin as a guest.

[@chrism6315]

I love the vibe of jenny asking questions. Its like shes a teacher scolding a student to make sure they understood the material.

[@Dlnqntt]

I love how Jenny asks Justin questions like a teacher trying to pull the answer out of a student that knows the answer, but is struggling to give all the details.

[@Diamonddog59]

Bowie once said, you do not need a manager, you need the nest lawyer you can afford. If you have a good music lawyer, you will never need to know the percentages, because they will have tied that shit down for you. Note, finding a good manager or lawyer is not easy, almost never use one recommended by the label, because guess where their loyalties are! Find your own and never sign any management or lawyer deal, until you can trust them with you wife, wallet and drugs!

[@dotmatrix3157]

I usually enjoy this attitude- but for some reason I find it kinda nd of annoying and off putting this go around

[@Briandnlo4]

I’m pretty sure Jenny knows the answers as well as Justin does; he’s not the only artist she works for; but she’s asking the questions as though she didn’t for the viewers’ benefit.

[@CleoKawisha-sy5xt]

it was rather annoying, and she needs to learn to speak clearly

[@caprise-music6722]

@@CleoKawisha-sy5xt 🤢🤮🤮🤮⚠️

[@bendtowardsthesun]

Immensely enjoyable episode. Had a little scroll through the comments section, and just gotta say... I will never understand why some people feel the need to leave mean, rude, and unconstructive comments. This content is free to consume, for one (and in this climate!) but it's also very sincere, entertaining, and SMART. There is a vast chasm of mindless drivel here on KZbin and I'm so friggin' glad this channel is nothing like that. I find the industry and technical side really fascinating, but it is the banter from both Justin and Jenny that I find myself looking forward to. Appreciate you!!

[@Dazzerthegooner666]

It makes them feel better about themselves unfortunately

[@dougiemiller5030]

This one of the most entertaining things I've ever watched on KZbin. These two could absolutely easily have their own tv show. Fantastic banter

[@kennyhaughan9605]

The sidestep to royalties earned by Justin when he’s cryogenically frozen had me hooked!.

[@mylene_vlr]

Woah, 4% for your contribution to The Age of Darkness lyrics, a bonus track on the Japanese Motorheart album version. Well done, Miss Jenny May Finn.👏🏻

[@misterdavidberry]

Jesus. I'm already basically in love with Jenny but when she's dressed like Velma from Scooby Doo too 🤯🤯🤯

[@erickimm5150]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@ChopperPBM]

Back in about 1999/2000 or so I was working for an IT consultancy, we were invited to come in to talk with the PRS to see if we could help them with a problem they had. At that time all PRS royalty payments were derived from two sources - radio station administrators who were asked to fill out and return paper-based forms saying what they'd played (often they didn't do this at all, or it was sporadic) and in lieu of this data artists were paid out based on a one-off fairly-accurate-at-the time 'audit' of what people were listening to in one very specific week on 1986 on a set number of radio stations (including all of the BBC ones of the day). What this meant was that when these forms didn't come in they just paid based on the observed plays from this one week in the eighties - I saw the data, in particular both Sade and Phil Collins got a disproportionate amount of the royalties simply because they had hits that week. The project they wanted us to do was to put a small computer on the roof of a number of buildings, around the UK mostly, which had a number of radio tuners that could listen to what was being played and compare snippets of the songs heard to a series of 'fingerprints' of songs that they'd sample and reduce down to these 'fingerprints'. The technology worked, I saw it, but it didn't cost out - not at the time anyway - so we never 'bid' on the project. But one fascinating aspect of this was that in order to create these song 'fingerprints' they had to buy a single CD (it was that time) of every song that they wanted to track, they'd then 'rip' that CD and process the audio tracks down to gain these 'fingerprints' - a warehouse full! a big one too - hundreds of thousands of CDs in a warehouse (near Bedford if memory serves). I'm not sure if that's what happens now for people like Shazam, I imagine they get to create their 2020's-format 'fingerprints' from a digital copy, but they still need to do this, that's how that works. Anyway, thought some of you may enjoy :)

[@niXity9000]

That part about the audit from 1986 is bananas. I almost want to say I don't believe it, but working in market research it sounds sadly plausible

[@ChopperPBM]

@@niXity9000 I suppose in the absence of better data they had to work out some way of carving up the money, and people are lazy - also this was the PRS in the UK, not globally.

[@CoolCisco]

This taught me that no matter how long you have been in the industry or how successful they still make hard to understand where the money goes and how it works.

[@SteveEvil-gu4pz]

As always, these podcasts are the best part of the channel. Also, Jenny looks even more gorgeous with glasses. Mr. Hawkins, you surround yourself with brilliant, lovely people! Hats off to you, Sir.

[@shellyt556]

I agree she looks pretty with the glasses

[@bleeknoir]

You two are such a vibe together. More Jenny!

[@RasT108]

She's got such a Jewish face and attitude for an Irish bird.

[@Oh_I_Will]

Heck know

[@onepartyroule]

I love when you and Jenny record your chitchats.

[@concretel10n]

In response to Justin and missing a rhyme - I genuinely think he's really talented at painting a picture with those lesser used words.. he expands my vocabulary

[@samphillips9109]

Woooo! Been looking for the 'Rufus' episode! I was so hoping you would interview the lovely Rufus! Thanks Jus!

[@dwaiting883]

Man, she is great at this. Justin is just answering it as he knows it but she keeps following up with questions to get to an answer that doesn't' skip a step or removed the assumed knowledge. It's as if she wants to start writing and recording songs and needs to know what to do once the song is finished being written/recorded.

[@Oh_I_Will]

She keeps interrupting…not good

[@billyc9151]

This was lots of fun and pretty informative to watch! On the topic -I think about the mess that Badfinger's Pete Ham found himself in with Stan Polly. It's important that the rock music community is more open to discuss these sort of topics today, especially on forums like this! Much gratitude to you both for this episode.

[@SuziQ.]

That was tragic.😢

[@MsCruisein]

One of my favorite lyrics doesnt have any rhyme. "They'll tell you all about guilt And in time you'll face the darkness But darkness is a friend to you Embrace and fly through the madness Flying past God, and wars and conflict Oppression in you Oppression in you Plowing through minds and paranoia Oppression in you The oppressor's in you"

[@ctmcmanemy4918]

Brilliant stuff. Re the one hit wonder/PRS royalties - this goes back to simpler times, when a single would have a b side and hence, two published works.

[@baztweed]

Jenny May Finn is lovely, the type of lady you wish all the love and succsess in the world, nice one Justin, another great cast :)

[@whatasaverl6456]

Really interesting Justin! I'm a trailer music composer myself and im looking into composing for film and TV. The world of musical rights is a minefield depending on the area of industry you are working in. For trailer music specifically, you write the track, you send it to the publisher, they register your track including your PRS number and you get paid whatever percentage the publishing contract states when its used. It's really difficult however because you only get paid when your tracks get used on something. Otherwise it sits in their catalogue until someone wants it and you cant use it yourself. This can be weeks, months or years. So if you can write music as part of a product and not the advertising, it's much better for the artist.

[@whatasaverl6456]

@DS-xf8yr is super tricky ain't it dude! I think it's better to get your name out there and create some demand. That's the massive issue with music for advertising, you never get a mention and nobody knows you've done a great job on a piece. Myself and a buddy started a KZbin channel recently and we've been doing some WH40k inspired tracks. Hoping to use some stuff as a showreel so we can start getting some consistent work. Like you said library stuff pays great if you get the placements, but otherwise it's so hit and miss.

[@tonycowin]

@DS-xf8yr How did you get into making library music if you don't mind me asking?

[@mbg4041]

How do you guys feel about the possibility of AI generated music being used for film/tv/ad composing? Is it a legitimate threat to human composers?

[@whatasaverl6456]

@mbg4041 hell yeah it's scary for sure. But just like every industry really. There is various djent AI making thousands of procedurally generated tracks and a lot of it is pretty impressive groove wise. As for big projects and things though, it takes a lot of thought to put together something that has considerable depth and human emotion. I think for at least the next 100 years or so we will be safe for things like film and TV as it will be used more as a tool to take short cuts here and there. The human brain is superior when it comes to relating nuances in emotional triggers and structures between sight and sound. But yeah it is a good question mate. Who really knows what will happen 🤔

[@mbg4041]

@@whatasaverl6456 thanks for response mate! I’m really interested in hearing from artists about the development of AI music and how it will potentially impact people. Whilst I truly appreciate the depth and nuanced emotion a person can put into a piece of music, I don’t have much hope that the general public notice or care that much. I hope I’m wrong because if music created by people is not valued then music will suffer

[@philmus1]

There were two societies, MCPS (Mechanical Copyright Protection Society) which collected royalties on recordings and PRS (performing rights society) which collected royalties for use of music in performance. The two societies have now merged

[@mrtylerlarson]

I’ve been hoping to hear your thoughts on this very subject -and here it is! Thanks for sharing your publishing and licensing knowledge with us! ♥️🎶⚡️

[@MariaFrancesca]

YAY! Jenny is back! 🙂

[@buddhalochanna]

My experience with stopping smoking was I started vaping and I noticed that when I went onto a lower dose of nicotine I didn't miss it. So, slowly I went down to zero nicotine, but I was still addicted to the action. However, I started doing the Wim Hoff breathing exercises and that changed my breathing, as I had gotten used to my diaphragm being in stress mode the Wim Hoff breathing exercise was a dramatic game changer. I stopped vaping 14 months ago and it's wonderful to be free of it. I hope that helps. Also, thanks for opening up about your own addictions, as I believe those kind of talks help everyone.

[@Yesno-jr7ou]

I see the smouldering buh,like a Spanish candle quivering before a duel..amongst a soundscape of a sunset ..have a go at innuendo for a queen fan..lol

[@jensdobernecker609]

Hi Jenny! Niiiice Haircut ❤!

[@jeffreyesguitar5129]

When we covered a couple songs for an album, we paid like $15 or something to ASCAP per song. If I'm not mistaken, bars and clubs pay a fee to allow songs to be played by DJ's or cover bands.

[@millycamilla8773]

Thanks for turning down work related to a milk company. Fabulous that you refused. When you feel strongly about something as important as this, and such a cruel system, and you say no, it really makes a difference. Thanks for staying true to your morals.

[@DanFre40]

Black Sabbath rhymed "masses" with "masses" in War Pigs. And Alice Cooper sang "we can't even think of a word that rhymes" in School's Out... so anything goes when it comes to songwriting it would seem!

[@shawnriffhard]

Love you both and your show! Just wanted to clarify about the Stones/Verve Bittersweet Symphony case as I see a lot of confusion on the web about it. What actually happened was, Ashcroft received permission to use a sample of the Aranbee Symphony (R&B, get it?) version of The Last Time for a fee to be paid to the publishers, Abcko Records. This is Allen Klein's company that controls all of the Stones music before 1971. Sadly, Ashcroft then used a sample that was longer (not sure exactly, but let's say they contracted for 5 seconds and he used 7 seconds) than agreed to. It became a huge hit, somebody figured out the discrepancy and Klein threatened to take Ashcroft to court if he didn't give up all the publishing. Sleazy on Klein's part, but a bonehead move on Ashcroft's part. Nothing at all to do with plagiarism. Mick n Keef gave their part to Ashcroft a few years ago. Cheers!

[@MentatOfDune]

Billy Corgan had a great conversation with Joe Rogan and how splitting royalties caused problems with the band. Billy was getting the songwritting money which was separate to the rest of the royalties were he also got 25% being 1 of the 4 members of the Pumpkins.

[@tonycowin]

It's an age old tale with bands since the 60s. I've never understood it though, without the songwriter there is no band. If they want to write and are good enough they should.

[@tonycowin]

@firetv2169 Coldplay too and I'm sure Radiohead do or at least did the same.

[@scotscub76]

​@tonycowin I think Snow patrol do the same.

[@cindywiech2675]

@firetv2169Rush did the same, 1/3rd for each band member.

[@brendanoneil3489]

But the writer(s) does a huge amount behind the scenes as well as all the recording, rehearsal and touring work. Also whereas there are tons of pro musicians that would work for peanuts to do a big tour, very few can write a huge selling album... bands are very rarely equal or democratic.

[@R_SENAL]

I wrote so many lyrics from the 90s up to 2016-17 when I sort of lost my faith in humanity. Then I met my wife and got married in 2018 and I was then too happy to write, cause most of what I write comes from a place of sadness or anger. I have over 300 songs in notebooks and on my PC and looking at them through the lens of my 48 years, I still think a third of them hold up. I just never knew how to publish them so someone could find them, take them, and maybe make something out of them.

[@danielthomas8507]

Find a songwriter and use your lyrics with their music......

[@R_SENAL]

Yeah,@@danielthomas8507, I've tried to find someone before and failed, maybe I should try again...

[@enharmonic77]

I agree with lots of the other conments, you both should do more vida together, brilliant chemistry

[@Flukey_1970]

Its mind blowing how money can be collected. So is busking technically theft? I would imagine that the system is very open to exploiting the musician as most new musicians/bands would have no clue of the process to what they agree to with the publisher. Very interesting video Justin as usual.

[@moreheff]

Technically, any covers band that performs a song is "stealing" if the venue is not covered by a PRS licence, or the peformer is not a member. So yes, if said busker is not in PRS, they are "stealing" Try policing it though..................

[@Flukey_1970]

@@moreheff yeah absolutely it must be a nightmare

[@JordanCarlin-qy5ed]

​@@moreheffYip, it's why when any band that plays at a venue they have to fill out a form stating if they're playing any covers and who the cover is by. Pretty cool actually isn't it 😂 Just imagine the amount someone like Noel Gallagher gets for the amount of bands throughout the UK who do a cover of Oasis.

[@naomiledger1374]

That was a really interesting and enjoyable chat. The dynamic duo lol. Jenny's not just your outfit twin...you guys look strikingly similar imo. Is it just me or does everyone else notice it too?🤩

[@unsafe68]

Absolutely love that you knew about Danny Taurus brilliant also Colin Hay from Men at Work has an amazing solo career as well great singer /songwriter ps so happy to have discovered your show recently regards from New Jersey

[@billydonnington4208]

On holidays and only watched this now. Thoroughly entertained. I’ve often wondered whether drummers, bass players should get a cut of songwriting even if they didn’t write the song but they wrote their bits which brought the song to life. I’ve read that Queen were a lot happier and tight knit once they stopped fighting for ‘their’ song to get on an album and decided to split songs 4 ways regardless of who wrote most of it. No right or wrong approach, it’s just what everyone agrees to.

[@Jesterpec666]

Great video explaining the ins and outs of royalties etc. Great example of using the same verse twice is Nights in white satin by the Moody Blues. Listened to the Age of darness for Jenny. Get Jenny to write on your next album so she gets some royalties.

[@DonaldHaston]

Fantastico! Really interesting listen. I love how Justin doesn't really know (or really care) how it all works. Have Jenny on more often, she is great at asking questions.

[@MrHoppy-so2no]

I really enjoy how you have curated your content and share w/the audience!

[@dylankopff5062]

She's so cool wish we had more like her in the states Justin is a brilliant musician with a rock and roll heart

[@philgallagher1]

1:13:01 That's also Simon Cowell's trick. Back in the day, every winner of "Pop Idol"/"X-Factor" were guaranteed the Xmas number one. Cowell would always pop up and change a line in the song. He then claimed a Writer's credit and took a substantial chunk of the money! It's also how Louis Walsh made most of his money. (Not that I ever watched those shows LOL!!)

[@Kippysmuse]

Traditionally melody & lyrics are the song: but it comes down to agreement eg. Production sometimes count as royalties. Whatever is agreed. Or a greed 😮 Brill episode. Love Jenny & the banter ❤

[@rickmassimo6192]

She had me at "Yeah, I saw the smolder. Thanks." 😆

[@sebastienlavoie9334]

Another fun watch as usual Justin and Jenny, as for known ''famous'' Colin, here in Canada we have Colin James who's a singer and guitar player who had hits in the 80's mostly, songs like Five Long Years, Voodoo Thing but especially Why'd You Lie was a big hit.

[@AndyLawlor]

Really enjoy the Justin & Jenny vids, can't wait to catch The Darkness in Dublin in Dec 👨‍🎤🎸🚀

[@indianajones5037]

One day Jenny and I will high five. I think so highly of her. You both are incredible. Will we get more of you and Pat Finnerty?

[@jim1664]

Jenny asked a good question there about where would the consciousness go when someone is cryogenically frozen? The converstation moved on to something else before they could ponder that one though!

[@polska4968]

i offically fancy jenny

[@henrikduende]

I know how you feel 😅

[@DJKC]

The cryogenic bit has me. In tears... Picturing a return of Justin as an Austin Powers type character. Needs to be a music video.

[@jasondean8346]

Justin Hawkins. Well Thank you again I have to say I'm learning a lot The last couple a days Just found your channel And love your band These quality vids are a Helping hand Cheers

[@PeteEllson5656]

Love these long-form vids with Justin and Jenny on each one I've seen I have had many lol moments. Great channel Justin, keep up the awesomeness. And you too Jenny.

[@NinStardust]

Loved this episode! Really interesting subject. 1:15 “There weren’t too many tangential meanderings”… good job we can’t get enough of your tangential meanderings otherwise one might think you were being less than truthful there! 😂😂😂 Can’t wait for next week’s episode!!! 🥁🤩😁💖

[@elleeme9451]

That would be a great band name ..

[@clubpsychiatrist2049]

awww! we love 'slanted' rhymes ... this was a great listen!

[@Rocksarum]

Great episode! As usual, we learn a lot of new interesting stuff in each of them. Also the twin look of you both is histerical, don't know if it was by chance or you agreed to match the outfit, but it was hilarious!🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm going to get one of that JHRA:TJOV uniform and wear it every monday from now on (would you believe it?😂😂😂) 🦅🤓... Lots of love J&J 🫶😊

[@OnlyUkeThatMatters]

Colin sings with XTC, Men at Work, and the Decemberists

[@MedalionDS9]

Publishing a video about publishing... pubception. Morning Justin and Jenny!

[@dancemusicorganisation]

Publishing vs copyright is quite simple. Copyright is for a particular 'copy' / version and is usually owned by the record company. Where as publishing is the ownership of the creative work itself. So cover songs, remixes, adaptation, remasters requires authorisation via the publishing rights holder. The use of a particular version / 'copy', including samples of that copy, requires authorisation and payment via the copyright holder. Publishing fees are usually much less than copyright, however if a particular version or copy doesn't sell well then it won't earn much, but if a song has many version and some are doing well then the publishing royalties can add up. If you require clarification or further insight / advice, MCPS (Mechanical Copyright Protection Service) can assist.

[@mikemeengs5720]

I remember an old bandmate I hadn't heard from for a while calling to tell me his new band was playing at a club down the street and I should try to be there. I told him I had to work that night, but I'd try to make it anyway. I asked him what the new band name was. He said "Tool". I thought that was an odd choice, but not so odd for Maynard. You never know!

[@philmus1]

Venues that have music, from performance paces, to pubs, shops and even your local hairdresser have to join PRS. There is an annual fee dependent on the size of the business and the amount of use. Those fees are used to pay artist royalties

[@antonballard2212]

I love you Justin but Jenny's hair is off the charts - great job! I love this channel!

[@paramotorhead]

Haha, I remember posting my demo’s to myself. That was a blast from the past, cheers Justin for that and the channel.

[@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain]

Thanks for watching!

[@Diamonddog59]

still a smart thing to do until you are members of PRS in the UK or the equivalent org for where you live. Get everyone to sign what there part was, then post everyone sealed copies registered, that envelope should never get opened until you are in a dispute and the lawyers on both sides are in the room.

[@JasminaFun]

You just need a government stamp on your paper. You don't need to post it. Gov stamp from the post office with a date is the same thing.

[@godinflt555]

I live this. I always go back to Prince, who worked so hard to keep his publishing based upon the fact that he wrote it, developed it, and recorded it. To be fair, not many people/artists have this option. BUT! But, this type of ownership is becoming more and more common because of technology. Record companies, in this day and age going forward, will have more of a role with the rollout and production of the overall product and promotion. So where does it goes from here?

[@FrontRunnerlive]

Im gonna listen to age of darkness a few thousand times just to give Jenny some royalties.

[@mattfairbanks7621]

Love watchinf these pods. Cant wait to see you in Dublin in December

[@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain]

See you there!

[@brianjohnson5789]

Yoko stopped Brian May releasing his version of god by John, he had changed the lyrics to be about him and queen instead of John and the Beatles

[@Acewhip]

Jenny rocking the Korn sponsored ADIDAS (and she definitely IS, which kinda explains the mood 😇)😁

[@thomasnisley7196]

The flow of the words is more than the rhyme. Love the discussion.

[@kathywilsonofficial]

Thank you very much Justin and Jenny! I really appreciate you sharing this information!

[@Diamonddog59]

Legally 50% for Lyric 50% for melody, how those 50% is shared depends how many people contribute and that but should be decided before leaving the room, else you find you end up hating each other. Some bands split everything 3/4/5 ways etc, which also can end in people hating each other.

[@Diamonddog59]

PS Drum rolls, guitar and bass solos etc, are not melodies, unless it can be argued that they substantially changed the melody.

[@Diamonddog59]

bridges and middle 8s can change the melody, that is why producers and managers try to suggest them and then take X% for something which is normally shit or superfluous. eg 10 minute guy.

[@Diamonddog59]

If any wanna be manager or label try and write a deal that gives them a share of publishing, they are wanksplats and you need to run away, publishing is for the writers only. Who can give a publishing company a share to get syncs ads etc. not your manager!

[@Diamonddog59]

Long time since I did this shit but on PRS reporting venue, eg larger venues or festivals, 3% (I think that was right) of ticket price goes to PRS so if 60 songs are performed that 3% is divided 60 times and sent to the 60 song owners. Example if you are playing a huge festival and you are a tiny band, on a side stage or tent, doing a cover is dumb, dumb dumb, unless that cover is in the charts or essential, as you will get quite a hefty PRS cheque 6-12 months later, because festivals normally do not divide the PRS dosh by who played a bigger stage so while you may be getting balls all for playing, your PRS may be quite nice so don't blow it by playing a cover.

[@Diamonddog59]

PS; If you are playing a big festival or support and you are not getting paid or had to "God forbid, BUY ON" some Golden rules, keep the chat to a minimum, learn to tune, fucking quickly, preferably while your guitarist, singer, drummer, bass player is doing his or her special bit, and leave the 8 minute epic, in three parts for when you are on the main stage, 15 songs in a 40 minute set, gets more PRS than 13, and you may want to wank off to your revisioning of "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" but Justine can buy his own spandex

[@ReXo31BbeaT]

Great vid , thoroughly enjoyable conversation. 👍

[@smeringtonweeps2717]

that was a fascinating chat, nice one

[@socrates1818]

I dig Justin but- pretty confusing if you’re hoping to get info related to the title of this video. i.e. publishing, royalties how to make money in songwriting. Etc

[@MaxFury_Official]

If there's a new Scooby-doo movie coming out soon Jenny should play a certain role, perfect fit! I can find myself out of here! Ps. I want to be a professional songwriter, i write better songs then Johan Shellback (the guy that wrote Moves like Jagger"). Not saying it's hard to write better stuff then that, but still! Here in Sweden it seems to be more about who you know, rather than how good your songwriting ability actually is.....Ds.

[@PaulMappud]

Which "Berkeley Hunt" in the chain would decide/sign off to package a Super Deluxe Boxsets LP's in clear PVC sleeves which then chemically react with each other and subsequently ruin the LP's... ???

[@metalbearuk]

Happened with my copy of Judas Priests 'Nostradamus' vinyl box set . Angry was not the word, and the band remained silent. Left a nasty taste.

[@PaulMappud]

@@metalbearuk : I contacted the management direct and was told to "buy the set again"... !!! I already paid enough into Priest's pension pot, jokers... and as far as I'm aware it hasn't been re released, so they were saying buy another shite set you pleb... ... ...

[@davelangford2439]

Omg Jenny is so gorgeous and 100% the reason why I watch these podcasts!

[@Mosredna]

Jenny has this perfect mix between a bit shy, super professional, kinda cute, and genuine. It mixes perfect with Justin being a bit more "fuck it all, but in a nice way" and trying to be super honest. Love it!

[@The_Cyberz]

Kinda cute? Wow dude.

[@Itsyaboy88]

@@The_Cyberzsuper cute

[@brendanoneil3489]

She has a 'geeky' persona, very smart too. She reminds me of that girl in Scooby doo.

[@MORITZBLITZ]

PRS live royalties is basically 3.5% of the gross ticket revenue from the concert -which is then divided down between all the songs performed on the date in question (as far as i see it!)

[@elleeme9451]

I did a college music course and the number one question from all of us students was "how can we protect the copyright of our songs"? The cynical teacher bluntly told us all that we should not be worrying so much about someone stealing our intellectual property, as it's probably not good enough for anyone to want to steal it ( paraphrasing)! The teacher was a pseudo famous musician and a bit of a jerk.

[@stephenlee1833]

Can you remember who it was by any chance?

[@leovlogslife]

Looking forward to the new Darkness song 'Sometimes I feel stuff, sometimes I don't', featuring additional lyrics from 'May'😆

[@LoriVFenske]

Can’t wait to listen tonight. Looking good in those Michael Caine specs. ❤

[@dave-jk6en]

I thought it was The Two Ronnie’s for a moment

[@LoriVFenske]

@@dave-jk6en ❤️😂😂😂

[@DallePics]

Justin needs to be recognised as one of Britain's National Treasures. Being so talented with no... or, at least, very little pretentiousness is a rarity!

[@flashtheoriginal]

Lovely old job. Once a Morlings man, always a Morlings man. Your Lowestoft brethren, in Gods own county, salute you. The Journal would be proud See you on the ice x

[@Erika-tv7im]

Hi Jenny and Justin 😊👍👍👍 great episode.😅😅 thanks

[@7mileshigh1]

Try to always hold onto your publishing rights. Atlantic wanted rights. It ended up if another offer presented itself. They would have gotten first bidding rights or no deal

[@justinwelch8673]

From justin to Justin i got a rhyme..." It must be fated that i hated buying for time cuz crazy baby is just filler not a rhym." Great show as always love the long content cheers

[@mufckh08]

I’ve decided it’s entirely possible that I’m in love with Jenny 🥰

[@kerrymdare]

If all of the podcasts were just Jenny and Justin shootin' the breeze with each other, I'd totally subscribe. You're funny buggers!!

[@freddiedickson]

Really loved this! Would love to hear an episode about your co-writing adventures 😊

[@lalaDrlalaDr]

Colin Verncombe (known as Black) who sang 'Wonderful Life'. Colin Moulding of XTC.

[@wolf-dietergrabner9762]

She's so cute. And fun to hear your conversations. Thanks for all the great episodes Justin.

[@Rocksarum]

56:01 🥱 someone needs a nap... (LMFAO your face, Jenny, while Justin yawns🤣🤣🤣🤣) Edit: 1:13:34 😂😂😂😂

[@louhumphries9536]

You’re morphing into one person now

[@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain]

It's getting out of a control at this point.

[@louhumphries9536]

Glasses, hair, shirt, the dead pan wit… nah that’s just Jenny

[@Foghornish]

A taboo subject definitly worth discussing.

[@EduFirenze]

Glad you talked about PTL vinyl reissue cause I just pre-ordered mine.

[@plantagenant]

Colin Blunstone.....lead singer of The Zombies..(She's not there...being their big hit).

[@pedrorlopes1886]

Jennys questions are really good for rookies to know