The Darkside of Being On Tour.

Today is The Jaws of Victory; Pitfalls of the Music Industry: Touring. Or at least it started off by being just about the pitfalls of touring, but then it got deeper and more psychological where we delved into my anxieties and worries that are brought on by being a performer. If you're a bit sensitive to topics about body image and weight, you may not want to listen as I discuss how I feel about my looks throughout the episode and we don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable while watching. However, we kept it all in because it was quite an honest chat. Please, tell me if any of the issues raised in this stood out to you. Let's talk about it.
I'm joined by my producer Jenny May Finn today - you can follow both of us on instagram: justinhawinsta or jennymayfinn.
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[@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain]

You wanna see me overcome anxiety and increase my vanity? Come see a The Darkness show this year: www.thedarknesslive.com/tour-dates/

[@concretel10n]

Leeds and Notts back to back let's go

[@PetraKann]

Do you have food in your belly, a roof over your head? Are you in war torn part of the globe? Do you have access to health care? Do you have inescapable debt? Do you help people in real need? Anxiety and Vanity?

[@ihateithereseason2]

You Trample over your insecurities , I lost 3 teef over lockdown , on on verge of sorting it out .. but may I say I noticed your new gnashers today & my vanity won't allow me out without new teef lol , also Pete makes me want to stop shaving my head..

[@bidbadgray]

Saw you in the Isle of man, loved it

[@psophia17]

Hi from Vancouver, BC! I am praying for a show for my birthday....March 17th (not even lying - I got totally excited when I found out we had the same birthday!). Will any Canadian dates be added?

[@Jameswilliam1982]

Dude you are so talented, and funny. You bring joy to people suffering. Cheers from Upstate New York.

[@mikemccaine4229]

ooh ! Had to put in Upstate New York didn't you? just to make it a bit about you. lol

[@sweetpandora2685]

@@mikemccaine4229 Hey! I'm from Upstate New York too. We know and appreciate what's good! 😁

[@Jade-ms2ys]

@@mikemccaine4229 I think it's really cool when subscribers here say where they are from, helps us see how we are all connected in love for this channel and its really neat to see all the different areas. So I find when people say where they are from it can be out of sharing and connecting.... :)... just to share.... peace and love to all.

[@Jameswilliam1982]

@@mikemccaine4229 No, its so Justin knows where is supporters are from

[@lynnees9828]

Hi Justin, from upstate NY too! WTF was that about? Ridiculous and I am a NYer. Ppl don't realize how different upstate is from the city, I think. We've gorgeous glens and waterfalls, mountains...etc. I'n near the Finger Lakes. oooh! Oh, love the facial hair!

[@MsBlueRajah]

once again Jenny May chunks up the massive value added - priceless to see her do the jim morrison drape

[@asowofviolence]

Never apologize for the digressions, they're part of what makes this all so great. The chemistry between you two is just magic!

[@SquintyBubbles]

You don't often as fans of artists consider their mental health, propensity towards anxiety, possible introversion or myriad other health issues when you set out to listen to their music. We really do seem to consume these collective individuals purely as a commodity for our personal consumption. This has been frequently laugh out loud but ultimately thought provoking. Thanks again Justin and Jenny.

[@barrykennedy8507]

I think maybe in the past we've only really seen the likes of Justin through the lens of the media and how they've decided to portray him. It's easy to commoditize a person who doesn't seem real and who are living what seems like a made up existence. None of it really seems grounded in reality and so it's easier to objectify and commoditize them. Via this medium we get to see this very human side that is familiar and relatable and once you understand that it's much harder to view them in that objectified manner. I think it's what I really enjoy about this channel.

[@Plumeria6460]

I love your authenticity, Mr. Hawkins. ❤️‍🔥

[@esotericfilmshollywood]

Bless you dear Justin, you beautiful creature for NOT using video filters during your podcast (which is brilliant), as a photographer/filmmaker, they're breaking my heart, the filters that is. The models (primarily female) that I photograph are forewarned that I will only edit out the blemishes that wont be there in a week. We need to see beauty evolving, the scars, the - oh no, dare I say it - wrinkles that indicate experience, history and wisdom and a beauty that 's far deeper than skin deep. I for one am marching steadily into later mid-life and as I do my affection for my heroes who are aging gracefully like Dave Gahan, Chrissie Hynde, Shirley Mason and Bryan Ferry grows ever deeper. And Bowie, my God that man/alien couldn't have given two f#@ks, even up until the bitter end. God bless him, he was uniquely and beautifully Bowie. In the wise words of Peter Lindbergh "If photographers are responsible for creating or reflecting an image of women in society, then, I must say, there is only one way for the future, and this is to define women as strong and independent. This should be the responsibility of photographers today: to free women, and finally EVERYONE, from the terror of youth and perfection." I say amen and amen. God speed my brother. oxoxo

[@phoenixgirl70]

It really is heartbreaking when I see some 20 year old using filters on everything. My nieces and friends children look amazing in real life. Yet aren’t using fun filters but the “perfecting” ones. But some hit 25 and they think they’re old. I remember when I turned 25 and so many women I worked with commenting about quarter century and stuff, it was weird. Then when I turned 30 I was a “cougar” according to my husbands friends who were also my friends and I laughed it off but clearly saw a part of them thought after 30 women fall apart. And I think I looked best in my 30’s! I’m 52 now so it was a different time but I see my friends using them. I could never because people know what I look like, I think I still look pretty good and we have to stop this ageism crap. I’m glad you don’t buy into it. It’s funny though, I used to buy a lot of magazines and still have some subscriptions, and one thing is the same. They will do super close up photographs where you can basically see every pore, crinkle and scar and whisker on a mans face unless it’s an advertisement. But that’s never been the same with women. You may see some soft lines but there is always a filter as long as I can remember. And I’m afraid that will never change.

[@ZuzuTheLemon]

I really enjoy these discussions about more 'difficult' topics. I had so many problems with body image, anxiety and other types of self harm as a youngster, it's comforting in a way to hear that people who seem so much more confident have dealt with that sort of thing too. For me, the thing that helped more than anything, was stumbling into a neuroscience degree and learning how some of this stuff actually works in the brain. We're all thinking meat, and sometimes the 'wires' get crossed, or a mechanism gets out of whack. Accepting that helps me not to beat myself up or to get swept away into unhealthy patterns that I know will only make my brain function worse. If I know it's going to jiggle my neurotransmitters in a negative fashion, I try not to do it. 🧠

[@guiarusso]

Love this open hearted discussion! Thanks for this Mr Hawkins and Jenny ❤

[@NinStardust]

I love when you two tackle the difficult or sensitive topics. It’s refreshing to hear people talking candidly about their own experiences and how they’ve tackled those issues. You both handle these subjects really well, with so much empathy and compassion that it’s unlikely that anyone could be triggered by your discussions. I don’t have any experience whatsoever with addiction or alcoholism. I’ve never done drugs (other than having a drink spiked as a teen) and don’t really drink, so whenever the subject comes up, I find it absolutely fascinating. Hearing about the psychology behind it, your reflections on the subject and the new revelations on these matters that you’re having during these podcasts is a real insight. It feels like a privilege to be a witness to it. 🥰 As someone who’s struggled with weight and body image issues her whole life, I would absolutely love you both to do a whole JOV episode on that topic. It sounds kinda strange to say but back when Justin was “heavier” and having eating disorder issues, it made me feel better about myself because I was going through the same thing. (Though for very different reasons). It was like a weird form of validation. If Justin’s going through that, then its ok that I am, kinda thing. It took some of the self-loathing away and ultimately helped me to sort myself out too. I think that’s why he gets people missing his “old teeth”. Justin has always been his authentic self, way way way before it was a “thing”. He had flaws but never tried to disguise them and that was (and is) inspiring for normal flawed people with wonky teeth and weight or alcohol or drug issues. When you can identify with a person you respect and admire about their perceived imperfections it makes you feel less inadequate about yourself and endears them to you forever. IMHO anyway 🤷🏻‍♀️😅🥰 Love these podcasts Jussy & Jenny! Thank you both for sharing so open heartedly. Never stop going off on tangental meanderings! 😂💖🥰

[@ZuzuTheLemon]

Beautifully said ❤ 🦅🤓...

[@NinStardust]

@@ZuzuTheLemon Thank you 💖🥰 🦅🤓… ❤️

[@chi_cedar14]

So well said!❤ I also wondered why people would miss his old teeth. It's just a weird thing to say!

[@FluxyMiniscus]

Ex anorexic / bulimic artist here (painter/jeweler). “Mature” (in my *cough* 50’s)punk who watches too much KZbin for sure 😬. One thing I love is finding “new” people to watch. I was a new mom and in baby world when the Darkness was in it’s heyday… so I’m truly just discovering your charm now…. When my “baby” is 21! I’m so happy to find your channel Justin. I really appreciate your humor and takes on the music scene. Thank you for your honesty

[@FluxyMiniscus]

PS- Another plea to come to Tucson Arizona…. The Rialto would be a great venue, just down the street from the university (and a much more liberal town than Phoenix). Great hiking too… come hug a cactus 🌵

[@freddyray6805]

Justin is as honest and genuine as they come. Pre youtube he would have had his own show. And Jenny, always good to hear and see you.

[@donnagaddass1705]

I love how you look now, you look so much healthier, well toned, your hair is nice and the stubble makes you look sexy. Most important thing is to always do you, wear what makes you comfortable, no matter what anyone else thinks, you got to be happy in your own skin. Stay like that and never change,it's what makes you you and what makes you beautiful.❤

[@TheWaveGoodbye-Music]

I let my teeth go to shit and for 8 tears it stopped me going out, at one point I sold everything and I had nothing but it didn't feel right after a year I began building my home studio starting with a £20 microphone and a 1 input USB cable, 3 years later I'm hoping to have an 8 input interface, more mics and I played my first gig in 8 years in May (just a tester) gonna get some more gigs in November/December for a mini tour in Scotland. The biggest thing I learned is if the songs are good enough and you deliver with genuine emotion nobody cares what you look like, there'll always be one or two who'll make fun but the crowd/audience will have your back

[@RUTHP123]

I, too, stumbled across your channel a few weeks back and can’t get enough! Huge fan now, please keep it up!

[@stevebailey6645]

I have so much anxiety these days I rarely choose to leave the house. One of the few things that I muster up the energy for is concerts. (Maybe once every year or two). Going to see The Darkness this fall and knowing that Justin is also anxious is somehow comforting. As for vanity, I gave up on that when I passed 60. For most people, you become kind of invisible in your later years so it's not as bad as I thought is might be.

[@Shelly-op1kx]

LOVED this episode!. I can really relate to the anxiety with “upcoming anything” and I can SO relate to that Happy Place of sleeping when at your happiest.🥰

[@myronb5110]

That was a brilliant watch. Justin & Jenny have great chemistry. And Jenny is just wonderful, isn't she ❤ Great video guys

[@mikemccaine4229]

I've been falling in love with her since episode 1!! Intelligent, kind, friendly, funny, humble... she's got the lot. Oh, and she comes across incredibly compassionate, which is one of my favourite traits in a human. x

[@gregormcnee2370]

Jenny has really Awesome eyes.❤👉👀👈👌

[@joshuabiddix2923]

​@@gregormcnee2370and teeth

[@lyndonchamberlin]

I'm always at work and can never respond to these. As a male who has struggled with anorexia, addiction, depression and, life long illnesses. I really appreciate you sir and everything you have to say. Thank you

[@mikemccaine4229]

Jennies hair just gets better and better. As does her smile. x

[@MariaFrancesca]

The flow is what we want. No worries, Jenny!

[@lapdogg]

Yelling into the Chasm sounds like the title to a new Darkness song… or a Steel Panther song if the Chasm is being used as a double entendre.

[@lindamcmahon358]

Being open about your anxiety is another way of healing - there are so many of us suffering and sharing the fear is a great way to connect. Such a relatable episode guys - love your work!! x

[@mikemccaine4229]

I completely agree Linda. I've been suffering with it for years and although we never get cured, sharing is one of the best therapies. A community of fellow sufferers is a great thing but don't dwell on it too long or your life will pass you by. Lovely to chat and feel free to use this thread as therapy!! x

[@StacyODell]

Whenever a potential topic comes up and the question is "should we cover this?" -- yes. The answer is yes.

[@Void_Goddess]

Agreed! But I'd watch Justin read the ingredients from a shampoo bottle. 😂❤

[@erinmoriarity4775]

Jenny is 100% right that everyone in the band is good-looking! It's kind of unusual for all members of a band to be so camera-friendly!

[@mikemccaine4229]

The Who? The Beatles? (not Led Zeppelin though I nearly did!! lol).... errr... Backstreet Boys?😁

[@erinmoriarity4775]

@@mikemccaine4229 I said "kind of unusual" not "completely unheard of". ;)

[@mikemccaine4229]

@@erinmoriarity4775 OK my dear, it was only a bit of what we call "banter". xx

[@erinmoriarity4775]

@@mikemccaine4229 Banter still needs to be relevant lol but we're cool

[@suneyeintuition4315]

I was thinking the "Last Of Our Kind" video everyone looked really good and they decided to spend most of the time filming the shirtless gentleman😄....no offense, glad he participated... but that is one time when the whole band should have had significant camera time.

[@estenray5385]

I’m really liking Jenny’s new hair cut! Super cute!

[@hanleypc]

I've followed you for about 20 years, your honesty probably means i'll listen for another 30!

[@sah-win]

Jenny trying to pull Jussy back to topic gives me some of my biggest laughs!!

[@raquelsnt]

Yes is my idol!!! 😂

[@mikemccaine4229]

The chemistry between them is so natural and adorable...

[@NoEconomyForSomeJen]

Omg it reminds me of my support staff. They joke that it’s time for a cuppa when I’m on a tangent and say “to make a long story short…”

[@spiercephotography]

Body image, mental health, and all that sorts of stuff is a tough topic, especially these days. I think you and jenny have done a great job at approaching it and speaking from your heart about what you were dealing with (i'm part way through the podcast, just stopped to make a comment). You're probably helping people that are dealing with similar issues without even realizing it, so bravo! I hope you are able to deal with stuff in your own way (and with privacy) as well, since everyone deserves that.

[@nononoitaintme]

These conversations are both lovely and perhaps therapeutic. Thanks Justin for being so open and Jenny for being so kindly inquisitive. I’m glad you guys are friends.

[@roguelily7957]

Daniel Johns of silverchair struggled with anorexia and he has talked about how he felt it was looked at very differently as a man suffering. Justin I'm glad you have used your voice to bring awareness of such things.

[@charliebluechaos4963]

So much love to you and to everything you do Mr. Hawkins ❤

[@tomgstew]

Love this, and Jenny is a sage gem of wisdom

[@schwingblade4290]

When I turned 50, adrenaline turned on me. Performance anxiety on stage. Out of nowhere. Alcohol stopped helping take the edge off. Sober 18 months now … that’s helping with memory, coordination but still dry mouth, tremors, panic on stage. Trying a Kava Kava extract now (with Eleuthero to prevent tiredness) … promising, but considering an Rx Beta Blocker instead. Getting old sucks sometimes! Hoping to be at your Tempe, AZ show this fall. Recent fan, your videos are incredibly inspiring and entertaining, thank you.

[@Kmaitland89]

I really like having Jenny on. She brings an interesting dynamic to the two of you.

[@phoenixgirl70]

Always a great listen! Looking forward to the next subjects. You’re both so interesting and your long friendship pulls out the real answers. I don’t know how else to describe it.

[@cherylhurst7093]

I have been in recovery from eating disorders. There was one guy to 7 women in the treatment center I was in for 3 weeks. Just celebrated 33 years of sobriety for alcohol and other substances. I can't imagine being in the public eye as a rock star or anything else where one is exposed to scrutiny. I have gone from super perfectionist to not caring about what I look like at the other extreme.

[@jamesrobert4106]

Exactly...I think it was Bill Hicks that said..."When do you ever see a good news story?" The media thrive on the collapse of individuals or society. It is vulgar. As if the crappy Red top newspapers weren't bad enough, the Internet /social media world has degenerated news to despicable levels.

[@Nicolasmondragon707]

Justin Fucking Hawkins Rides Againnnnn 🎶🎶🎶

[@CorbCorbin]

…ahhhgain

[@andrewchristie3139]

Would love an episode on alcoholism. I quit drinking 1 month ago after 20 years of heavy drinking so this really hits home.

[@clairew137]

I would really love to hear Justin's views on alcoholism please. It's a struggle to understand why some people who've been through rehab go back to drinking, even though it might kill them.

[@simonpark843]

I always enjoy the conversations you two have.

[@MariaFrancesca]

I admit, I do find talk of looks difficult. I'm getting old, and I have chosen, for good or for bad, not to fight it. I don't dye my gray hair, and I don't fill out anything. Sometimes I feel the pressure to, as when my sister in law gave me hair dye for Christmas... But I'm fine with aging, but then I get Psoriasis flare ups that covers literally my whole body in spots and I look like a monster and I don't go out at all, in weeks... Looking at talented and beautiful people is a compensation. The Darkness (ALL of you) certainly helps in that aspect - talent and beauty in one! But there comes an age when just simple attractiveness of youth matters less to you, and you see much more beauty in the traces of experience in people. You wish less people would do plastic surgery, fillers and what not. Not because you really want to control how they chose to handle themselves - but some people become wax dolls and the beauty of that experience, the vividness in their faces is gone. Even if it IS difficult to listen to peoples' insecurities, as my own hits me so much worse, I appreciate the honesty in these conversations so much.

[@ZuzuTheLemon]

I stopped dying my hair during the pandemic and was really insecure about it, until a friend's very small child told me it looked like silver unicorn hair! 😂 It drove home how much of what we think of as 'ugly' is sold to us by people like hair dye manufacturers. If I dye it again I feel like I'd be passing that insecurity on to that child. Better to be a unicorn I reckon. ❤

[@MariaFrancesca]

@@ZuzuTheLemon Gray hair can really be so beautiful! 🙂On bad days I fear I am more Grandma Addams than Silver Unicorn, though 😅 But it's SO freeing not to have to bother with that, all that money saved, too... It's the good part about aging, your priorities do change a a lot.

[@ZuzuTheLemon]

@@MariaFrancesca grandma addams is awesome!...and she always looks happy 😂

[@MariaFrancesca]

@@ZuzuTheLemon Ha ha, always stirring up a cauldron of some, smokey... something 😀 I'll totally embrace it, could have a worse role model 😀

[@ZuzuTheLemon]

@@MariaFrancesca definitely! ❤️

[@elleeme9451]

♥️Loved this podcast. True story, I was getting comfy and laying on my bed watching this podcast. I felt like falling asleep. But not because you're boring, because you both make me feel relaxed and happy, safe ( as Jenny said). Fyi I think I speak for most when I say that what we love IS the tangential meanderings and mental health/ emotional feelings/ life anecdotes. We don't really care what the topic is! I always feel a little disappointed when the podcast isn't one with Justin and Jenny together. It's like listening to( and being part of) a get together with two good friends.

[@emmawilson3517]

You're in the shape of your life as you are Justin, and aging like a fine wine! Loving this insight!

[@clairepickin5928]

Always a great conversation between you two. Honest and open, very funny at times. Love it.

[@anastasiabosakowski8651]

This was my favorite of the long form podcasts. The conversation was interesting, you two are so comfortable together and loose that we really get to see the "real" you and it was quite funny.

[@amandawiggins9264]

I've absolutely loved this interview! I was initially having it played in the background while I worked from home but found myself listening and watching you both more than I should have (because I'm working). Your producer is brilliant, for you. I see so many similarities between yourself and my husband, who is also the lead singer, guitarist, and song writer of his group. Extremely talented with a massive stage presence, yet so anxious and insecure in oneself. (Also, tall and thin) ... which I dig. Don't ever apologize for how you are or feel. We all appreciate your rawness and vulnerability. EYES - Yes! hands down the number 1 thing. P.S You have always been a stunner and the most attractive in the band! :) Australia ( Perth) loves you!!!! X Right then, back to work.... :)

[@millycamilla8773]

Thank you for this episode, both of you. It really resonated with me. I admire your honesty and openness discussing a delicate subject. It’s painful to recall, I know. I somehow survived anorexia after an 8 year battle with myself ~ and being told I would die, but in my case, I don’t think the addictive nature (of how my brain seems to function) ~ that this type of crippling control mindset ever really disappears. It just manifests itself in another form. I could easily slip back to those horrible days. It’s interesting as sometimes people say I come across as confident. As you do. :) in a rock star way. :) But underneath that I’m just like a duck on the water, seemingly moving forward without a ripple in the water, but under the surface it’s all much more effort. It’s hard for a lot of people to understand. One of my closest friends didn’t survive. I tried hard to help her but for some people it just takes over their mind. No amount of help does anything. You have a huge following here. And talking about it helps. And I feel that your presence on you tube and other platforms and your time management here is part of your structure to maintain a way of coping. I think I’d be doing things as you are if living your life. I’ve found your music and lyrics help me with a lot of thoughts. Thank you for what you give. Great discussion, always.

[@SecretSpots]

I love how towards the beginning Jenny reveals her plot to rid Justin of more of his facial hair! 🤣 That was wholesome and hilarious! LOL

[@MedalionDS9]

The J&J podcast - Justin & Jenny... start your mornings off right!

[@MedalionDS9]

Appreciate all the before talk before the actual ep because you seem self-aware the ep may not have stayed as focused or on-topic as you like... and that's fine.. it's your show, and you can be tangential but the topic keeps a show on theme and have something to talk about than a dog's breakfast of random anecdotes. Having said that, I never felt you were too far off from the general topic.

[@Poison_Icelynn]

Thank you so much for this podcast, I think it might just be my favourite one

[@jayspears7245]

Your talent matches your style and persona. Justin Hawkins = I think is a true Rock Star. Take care of yourself bro.

[@sharnjitsharonlalli212]

Yes please do an episode on alcoholism as many struggle with this and how to help themselves thanks as always for all your honest deep insightful posts 🤗👍👏😘🤗💗🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@highstreetjackmusic]

This is an odd comment, but since this episode is partially about vanity, I wanted to mention that I like this hair style better than your previous styles. I just think that the hair combed back looks good on you.

[@aisling6564]

Jenny May is a bit of a boss. This was a bit like being inside a therapy session, with an actual therapist. Have no idea but good stuff 👍✌

[@Void_Goddess]

Love Is Only A Feeling is one of those videos I can watch over and over again cause you are absolutely gorgeous in it. 😊❤ And I'm loving the throw back to your early Darkness days - facially. You're looking great. Aging like a fine wine... or cheese, either way! 😂👌🏻

[@tanjakirchhoff7183]

11:48 I’m so excited to seeing The Darkness in Germany 🎸

[@phillwatson9274]

I'm pleased that you feel that this needs saying. Too many men just don't talk about feelings which is why the suicide rate in men is so much higher than for women. I have many issues with anxiety and just block from my mind how I look. Unfortunately I use alcohol to block the thoughts from my mind which only makes things worse.

[@CPT_Nelson]

There are no other ''jobs'' where most of the issues and stresses you brought up are so prevalent. Probably models and actors but the latter get to re-do their mistakes for the final take, if directed properly. Much love to you Mr Hawkins!

[@Inequities]

7:35 hilarious I’ve watched that 20 times this morning it’s so funny

[@dbfildes]

It is wonderful how open you both are, great candid discussions.

[@SquintyBubbles]

This is hilarious, thanks so much for your honesty and hilarity.

[@RickM01]

Yes please!!! Discuss how substance use can get out of control as a musician and maybe why some musicians are able to come through more healthy on the other side (Keith Richards, Rocking Ronnie Wood, David Van Cortlandt Crosby) and some don't (James Douglas Morrison, Jerome John Garcia, Elvis Aaron Presley). I am 3 hours from NYC and 3 hours from Boston where you're playing. Which one should I drive to? Boston probably. 🤘

[@thebluestgiraffe7160]

Justin--I just discovered your channel, and your music. You are a delightful and delightfully odd creature in so many ways. I could write a book to you on the reflections that your and Jenny's insights stirred in me.

[@erinmoriarity4775]

Justin can squeeze a double entendre out of so many words and phrases. 🤭😏

[@richardroutenote171]

I feel like its actually quite encouraging to hear you talk about eating disorders and if you're just being yourself while you discuss it then that's good. 'Being Yourself' has done you pretty well so far. I encourage you to be open about this specific struggle. Its not discussed nearly enough, but those affected or connected to these issues know the true impact.

[@brave_gravity]

Love these 2 together. Brilliant co hosts. I would love to have them interview some other guests together. Jenny May is so lovely. Keeping up the Irish connection between her and Mr Carty!

[@hanleypc]

I had to fly to Chicago and back in 2 days for work and got Virgin Atlantic on the way back. I enjoyed a podcast from you on the way back, it made my journey enjoyable!

[@aprilkurtz1589]

Does the "Get Softy to wear a white tiger outfit" idear earn Jenny a cut of the Intelllectual Property rights, because if not, it should. She's brilliant, Justin!

[@ZuzuTheLemon]

The woman's a genius.

[@Blags3]

you and Jenny together are such a great pair. I wish I found your channel in lockdown 😭

[@Thexpertoneverything]

Don't EVER APPOLOGIZE. DON'T GIVE THE HATERS A GODDAMN INCH. LOVE YOUR WORK ❤❤❤

[@HiFiTC]

I absolutely love this channel! As a musician who has toured I really love this episode. You are amazing and I can't wait to see The Darkness in Philadelphia in October!!! Keep the content coming!

[@brianford8493]

Deeply admire your honesty chap.....i have severe PTSD and am a creative soul who no longer knows what or who he is.....this lifted my spirits for a while......so thanks from deep deep down Justin.

[@martinstitchener2430]

Once again this was another great podcast, both of you are very open in these discussions and it is genuinely enlightening. I think that it is good for people to hear you have anxiety when performing, I have read this in other people's autobiographies too. I wonder if the anxiety is attached to really caring about doing the best you can to please the audience and not let people down, I know in myself that the wish to succeed in my work drives anxiety, but it also keeps me true as long as I control it and not it control me. Please definitely cover addiction and the music industry in more depth. The history of music shows us that in rock in particular drugs and alcohol have been very close and sometimes deadly bedfellows for many artists. But, also some like yourself manage to find the strength to beat it, it would be a deep possibly dark podcast but a worthy subject. Also definitely do one on the joys and fun parts of touring, it would be great to hear some of those stories and to hear what has inspired you and the band when on the road. Thanks again, Jenny and Justin.

[@emptyemptiness8372]

You are the real deal Justin, thats why we love you. As a guy who has been involved in music and has constantly had issues with ....um....undereating...thanx, i dont feel so alone. I am almost 60 and only just getting comfortable with eating around people.

[@GymHasafit]

Just found this channel about a month ago and have been binge watching everyday :O> Great content and a refreshing sense of humor.

[@polmorgan3533]

I'm a broke musician like a hundred million others, It's interesting to hear Justin's take as he has ''Made it'', the elusive destination we All crave to be at . I'm still writing and Hoping i get a break. But my ship is sinking fast and its getting pretty close to the end of the Show... To be Continued. . . Quite exciting really, this Last chance In life Thing...

[@mikemccaine4229]

Don't be deceived. I was in a band in the 90s and we signed to an independent label and then the big one... the major label deal. Touring Europe, making £80,000 videos, being on TV etc etc, playing big festivals in a big tour bus. Did it light my fire like I thought it would after spending years trying to get there and reading rock n roll books?? Nope! Did it make all of my dreams come true? Nope. Did it give me more anxiety than I had before? Yup! Because if we didn't sell X amount of records we would get dropped. Sorry to sound like a moody bugger, but the happiness you require is not in the future or the past, it is now! Right now! Being grateful for being alive and well. By all means carry on and I wish you all the best, but really, it is all within you. Everything you need.

[@polmorgan3533]

@@mikemccaine4229 Hi Mike i agree, I used to live in Hollywood and had an expensive home, Harley's, Cadillac, etc its all fun but not the answer the 'making it' is realizing you mattered all along. The Only Thing that's REAL is NOW.

[@mikemccaine4229]

@@polmorgan3533 Also Polmorgan, the less you have in your possessions, the less you have to maintain and worry about!!😉

[@WhoCaresAlisha]

When Justin said "aquired taste", I realized that I likely developed a subconscious attraction for people with dark curly hair and tattoos from watching The Darkness music videos as a young girl 😅 So you could say he's the blueprint? Anyway, I appreciate the open discussion about body image. Take care ❤

[@jacq38401]

This is one of the best podcast episodes ever! I needed to laugh and you both really cheered me up!! Justin's lips....beautiful as they are, the humour this discussion produced was brilliant! Thank you, now listening to the rest...oh and I'll be seeing you at Warwick Castle!

[@grahamehedger4498]

Spain? Was that including the doomed Cartagena gig? I tried to get tickets for that. Was gutted when it was cancelled.

[@criviette]

Thank you for making Mondays both funny and thought provoking. This is such a treat.

[@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain]

Thank you so much, we're glad you're enjoying it! :)

[@Ajaxophi]

Just bought my tickets to see you guys at St. Andrew's in Detroit, can't wait!

[@blobbybiscuit]

Truly appreciate the honesty in all of your videos, but especially this one. Really looking forward to the next, and especially the conversation about addiction. Thank you both!

[@JustinHawkinsRidesAgain]

Thanks so much!!

[@tishw4576]

What a refreshing video. We are led to believe handlers "handle" the stress and anxiety the performers go through. Actually, only you can handle your stress and anxiety. This is how it should be, especially since you are including it in overall health.

[@jasonbruce711]

just wanted to say a huge thanks to you for your substance dependency episode. this isn't to blow smoke up your proverbial, but your story was hard to hear but i needed it. i cant say what part of it was my light bulb moment but i have now started my journey to sobriety. thank you

[@VigilanceFilms]

No apologies needed, brother! Let the conversations flow!!!

[@MegaGreatpretender]

Really enjoying the both of you chill and chat !! Winning formula

[@patricksarsfield5138]

Jenny is a gas Irish woman and great side kick for Justin. Lucky to have her on the team Irish viewer in Wil.

[@chefyvr]

Please do Dinner Lady Arms on the Permission To Land tour at Newcastle. This will make you feel great 👍

[@paulglancy1665]

Why am I glued to this chat?🤔

[@85priesty]

I totally relate to the "dadding" and music. On a small scale, having essentially a residency, then having it gone because the kids come first and having to stop playing music 4 to 5 nights a week. It's scary as hell when the opportunity presents itself to play live again, it's incredibly anxiety indusing....I had the best job in the world, playing literally at the end of the earth. It's scary. I relate to everything...looking three years ago, but then when someone who gave birth to your children abandonds them for over six months, because playing music isn't "work" apparently. I'm a guitarist who attempts to sing. I never care about trying to be a star or do tours, but to be able to play whatever you want and make a living, that's making it. Justin is an inspiration to me...especially the drinking. But playing solo gigs was such a work out, and now I'm fat, not a "normal" weight. I consider myself so lucky that I had the opportunity to improvise entire gigs in one of the most beautiful places in the world...which I'd take less money to do that, becaause I can't and would rather work in retail than have to play the top songs.

[@sues6944]

Happiness and sleep - both go hand in hand, as you sleep better when you are happy and the much yearned for sleep brings happiness. Is this the same for you Jus and Jenny?

[@ness-ee]

I love the way you say “tour” like David Gower talking about the England cricket team

[@humanbeing5300]

Ill be honest I have never even heard the Darkness and had only heard of them once over the years. I will definitely start to check them out. Just want to say as a fellow musican and human being I really think Justin is a class act. Def a cool and nice dude

[@meezursrule]

Really interesting podcast, particularly your discussion about body image issues. Thank you for being so open. I'm glad we've moved on from the 'heroin chic' images of the 80's but am baffled by the current obsession with huge Kardashian-style horsey-bottoms, enormous filled lips and big bushy eyebrows. Maybe admiration of a very thin aesthetic is tied in with restrictive eating disorders, in some cases ? As someone who has an eating disorder, but has the opposite problem (I'm very big), I do find that sometimes people with restrictive eating disorders can be literally revolted by big people and can be very harsh in their criticisms - they assume that people my size are lazy, thick and slovenly and that often is not the case, and there can be the automatic assumption that most people would regard a big person as ugly, when not everyone sees it that way. Slash has a big ole gut on him now, but it doesn't stop him prancing around with no shirt on... Restrictive eating disorders rightly receive a reasonable amount of NHS funding as they can be life-threatening, but I wish funding was improved further for them and that there was also a lot more funding for those of us who binge without purging. No, it's not life-threatening in the way bulimia can be, but it still can give rise to multiple health issues and it would probably cost the NHS less to address the underlying issue driving the misuse of food, than it would to treat the diabetes, PCOS, high clorestoral, sleep apnoea, high blood pressure etc that many morbidly obese people have. I hope more is done to support musicians who experience mental ill-health. The stats in your industry are scary! People talk about the 'rock and roll' lifestyle a though it is glamorous, but what is glamourous about an industry where addiction is rife, and where there are people dying before their time? Maybe the partner felt embarrassed rather than jealous when JH used his name to get a table? Being with someone who believes that they deserve special treatment could be embarrassing?

[@zoraz4867]

I'm with Jenny 100%! Just stubble is best on Justin. The tash was fun, but it looks the best when its in the sink 🤣😍 Your look at the moment is gorgeous.

[@karlabeightler3852]

@JustinHawkinsRides Again. Justin you are absolutely adorable. I love The Darkness and I love to watch/ listen to your Justin Hawkins Rides again channel on KZbin you are awesome keep doing what you're doing because you truly have no idea how much joy you bring to some of us

[@sweetpandora2685]

SpongeBob! I love SpongeBob! 😁 Great episode; interesting, informative, insightful, endearing, and as always, entertaining. Thank you, Justin and Jenny May.

[@lornapelta-crooks6642]

I married a musician and never ever gave him a hard time xxxx