MY TRUCK FLIPPED OVER (WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?)

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[@cbboggs6459]

In 49 years in business I have never flipped one of my trucks or had a driver flip a truck. Not sure about today with low caliber of help available. Makes me glad I'm retired.

[@mrbakerskatz]

Kinda what I thought ,although I don’t have but 25 years driving construction trucks !

[@charliehowell6458]

I have been driving dump trucks legally since I was 18 but in farms from the time of 12 and I have never flipped one and I have done asphalt millings loaded and never been loaded incorrectly. Sounds like a driver and operator problem

[@martinhowe3679]

@@charliehowell6458 same here never had a problem like you, possible driver problem possibly trying to drive while tipping ? cant stand the language of the owner

[@TravisTheDriver]

martin howe whoppty fucking doo why you watching for? I love watching this guy because he’s real as fuck.

[@dewaynemiguel3349]

I agree its drivers that arnt worth minimum wage, 46 years never had any thing ever happen but ive seen stupid drivers do stupid things,i saw a driver get stuck and hook the chain to the axle,he wouldnt listen they pulled his front axle out from under it

[@BadgerBadgerBadger28]

One major thing you missed on why trucks fall over it’s a called driver incompetence

[@bigdave6331]

drivers and steering wheel holders

[@mrpresident5186]

big dave what's a steering wheel holder?

[@MichaelJones1527]

Hi, I’m a veteran trucker with a fairly new KZbin channel that I’m trying to grow. I would appreciate it if you would check it out and maybe help me out by subscribing. Thanks in advance.

[@rickydockins2779]

Dumd ass

[@bryan70546]

@@rickydockins2779 *dumb

[@MichaelJones1527]

You may have to do what I have done on older trucks. Take what they will give you for the total but tell them you want to retain the salvage. If not they may try to screw you. You should be able to ask what they consider the salvage is worth. The owner of the vehicle is suppose to be able to get first choice on the salvage.

[@life-te7to]

You can also buy it back from the insurance auto auction

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

Growing pains is part of the business. I watched my boss go from 6 trucks back in 2006 to 30 trucks here in 2018 and there might be more in 2019. Seen everything from driver's having accidents to just tearing up stuff. The dump truck business is or can be a roller coaster business. Past few years the demand for trucks has been high and with that demand people and owners go out and purchase trucks to meet that demand. The Vocational market has been hot as of late. The paving company my boss works with will have or ask him to purchase trucks for the upcoming season. They asked for him last year to purchase 5 quads for this year. No your not an idiot, your just trying to fill a demand and things just aren't falling in to place. The struggle is real, and it's just like life, that's not easy either. Hopefully things will get better for you and your company. Thanks for sharing. 👍

[@cindytepper8878]

Back in the day we ran B-81s and DM Macks with under bed hoists. Most times if they flipped, you could stand them up with a loader, fill the fluids, and finish out the day. Usually just fender, door, and mirror damage

[@jaisongeorge2705]

“Employees and the trucks come first” amen brother!!. Another 30 days with out pay, I know that all too well. God bless you.

[@austinmorris8277]

No offense Justin but to prevent a insurance rate raping why wouldn't you just fix it yourself and not turn it in I understand the the cost would suck but not as bad as next year's increase

[@raymondbradley6788]

Justin that is a correct statement. That's what you have insurance for. I hate writing the check for it, but with something fucks up that's why you have it. Hope it all works out brother.

[@74amodel]

Up here in western CANADA we run Alum boxes in most dump trucks they put plywood on the sides and steel on the floor works good

[@dannyyo7948]

I like your "keep truckn" and positive attitude. Shit happens, sometimes. Got lucky there, looks like she will live. thumbs up from up north.

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

The cost of a rotator is worth every penny when you need one to minimize damage. You're 100% correct about Western Star trucks being built right! I love my 4964!

[@bubbaray8670]

Yeah, I went through that yesterday when the road gave way under the one I was driving. I'm back at work today right now in a different truck waiting to be loaded. Lol. Sore as crap but glad to still have a job.

[@big_mike_nyc]

I’m sorry for the problem that’s a beautiful truck I hope the insurance company does right by you. I am a concrete and excavation contractor here in nyc I own all my equipment and I had a similar issue several years back, my insurance company is Crum & Forster and they are incredible they fixed all the damage on my Mack!

[@alphonsotate2982]

ALSO INSTALL A DUMP BODY LOAD VIBRATOR SO YOU CAN TURN IT ON WHEN YOU DUMP HOPE MY ADVICE HELP YOU.

[@timmcfarland3311]

He’s like a little kid who just learned the “F” word

[@itsimjrsee1254]

He's saying the F word a lot of times

[@MichaelJones1527]

Hi, I’m a veteran trucker with a fairly new KZbin channel that I’m trying to grow. I would appreciate it if you would check it out and maybe help me out by subscribing. Thanks in advance.

[@willw7545]

It’s because u were on uneven ground and have like 8 axles so it’s super top heavy

[@steverutherford8189]

I like the video. And it looks like you covered everything from inexperienced drivers and so on. I would imagine dumping on a windy day could get tricky. I pull a liquid tank so we have our issues as well. I hope it all works out in your favor and continued success.

[@jmauga18]

To fix the sticky problem spray some diesel fuel on that dog house before hauling pavement.

[@donaldbartram6315]

Diesel has been frowned upon for DOT jobs for years, Don't get caught,THey'll refuse the load. We use to coat the whole body every couple loads but no more

[@danepatterson8785]

I had an aluminum box used diesel every round nothing ever hung up while paving

[@tsimmons1974ts]

I feel you brother , I flipped a end dump over about 7 years ago before that I thought I was the best driver in the world it brought me back to reality 🤔🤔🤔

[@tsimmons1974ts]

@John Conrad Shit Happens , I can tell you never drove a truck before, oh I forgot to mention F 150s don't count. Dumb Trump supporter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mrbakerskatz]

tsimmons1974ts gotta make it political don’t you cry baby !

[@catdieselpower193]

She's a fine lookin Star and minimal fixes!! And she will be good as new!

[@zacharyholbrook7930]

Millings not grindings milling machine not girnder. A grinder is what the westernstar needs. Good luck bro

[@joaquinperez8734]

That's right

[@mikemotteberg3527]

lmao

[@timgring4121]

I’m glad that hood did not get that destroyed. I remember you saying that was the only one left that you could find

[@WayneTesta4444]

The two most common reasons dump trucks flip over is the truck driver is speeding and reckless driving I have seen many dump truck drivers doing that. There's really no reason to add excuses as to why the truck flipped over. Just a few years ago a few miles from my town a dump truck ran a red light and slammed into a school bus the driver of the truck said his brakes failed which his brakes were working.

[@juliogonzo2718]

Why are they speeding? Paid by the load! A readymix company where I used to live switched to hourly pay and suddenly less trucks got destroyed

[@WayneTesta4444]

@@juliogonzo2718 yes I believe that the majority are paid by the load

[@jasonkarch4904]

Spray it with diesel helps with the sticking

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

Another way of laying a truck over is having wore out pins (probably not greased regularly) where the body attach to the frame rail and dumping on a slight lean with grinding or asphalt on. We had a older truck (2006) dumping in the paver while in a curve that almost took the paver with it. Luckily the driver realized the situation and took actions to prevent it. He'd never put himself in that situation after that.

[@bradleyyuckel6894]

This truck is 100% fixable. I've fixed trucks that had alot more damage. I work at a freightliner/ western star collision center. She is deff. Salvageable.

[@Darkmatter2134]

To get rid of the sticking issue put a liner in them. They also make new beds that end at dog house preventing build up

[@mlhrepairsllc6942]

Fixed a few that have been flopped. Bad position to be in. Truck doesn't seem to look that bad from the video. I don't think they will total it out. Got some fixing to do.

[@CumminsDslPwr]

Justin, back before 2007 when most truck beds were still steel, and diesel fuel still had some lubrication left in it, we used a sprayer just like the one you showed in the cab to apply diesel to the beds to help keep the material from sticking. Then in 2007 they took just about everything slippery out of our fuel, so we started blending waste oil with the fuel to help out. Then they started getting on everyone about using anything hazardous to the environment as a bed liner. So we went to using Dry Slide which is a bit pricey, but it does work even with wash out material. The brush on stuff lasts about a month, and there are aerosol cans you can throw in the cab for the drivers to touch up sticky spots between applications. Short of a 4 foot level with new drivers to put on the tailgate before dumping, it's pretty cheap and useful insurance.

[@doctorpepper4655]

makes for a long pre trip inspection

[@dirtfireservices]

Great looking Western Star, your fleet is bad ass 👍

[@wolverine12711]

Man Justin, you have had a ruff go of it brother. If you need anything we are here for you man. How is Nick? That's a damn shame

[@bojanstanisic9219]

most of the dump trucks that I seen flepped over had the same suspention like this one (hendricson 460). What happens is that rubber seperets from metal and you cant tell unless you jack up the truck on rear end and check if its intact

[@johno2504]

Man thank you for this comment, I was about to but a Peterbilt 348 tri axle dump truck with a rubber Hendrickson suspension. Paccar px9 with a allison automatic. What would you recommend suspension wise and truck wise? I know to stay away from airbag suspensions(and rubber now), and get a steel bed that curves up on the sides so everything is more centered.

[@vsetkoumiera7683]

I worked at a limestone quarry and asphalt plant a few years back and we had a driver lay a truck over loaded with hot asphalt and he was burned really REALLY bad with the asphalt he lived a couple days but then died, that was a very very gruesome scene, I seen the truck lay over and rushed down there but there was literally nothing I could do except call emergency services, it scared my mind I can still smell that smell of burning flesh and the driver screaming in agony

[@johnmills186]

Get the bed and the suspension fixed and drive do the cosmetic this winter while it is snowing.

[@llcruzn5426]

The number one reason turn overs is driver error. In your case bed length also worked against you. Most dump beds have a doghouse using the regular cylinder setup. To not have it, you need to use a trunnion system, in which the front of the body slopes. A lot of people don’t like that look. Or use the scissor jack system, but it has it’s limits also, most bed length. My family has owned hundreds of dump trucks since 1928. Owned a gravel pit for 50 years, dug basements for high rises and other major excavation projects. We’ve hauled it all over the years dirt, sand, gravel, asphalt and more. And only had two turnovers both driver errors.

[@skwlogistics3698]

Hang in there Justin.

[@AChrivia]

What we used to do was spray the box down with Diesel if we were hauling this junk. I hated hauling that shit for this reason. Still never turned a truck over. We also never hauled that shit in long body dump boxes like that either. Ours were standard size with maybe one auxiliary axel. We also had vibrating dump beds too. That helped a ton like you wouldn’t believe. I think if they wouldn’t put the dog boxes in the boxes and added a second hydraulic ram it would help with stability a lot. In my opinion, I think that should be a standard thing in all dumps.

[@kevinmcgann9732]

IMO that W.S is 1 of the best looking 1's out there

[@idreamofdragonso5677]

Things like this happen but that is really fixable a lot cheaper to fix this one than replace it

[@Budgettools]

Good thing us patreons bought your new trucks for you

[@EPAGHGDDEXPERTjohnnyboy]

Budget tools what

[@Budgettools]

@@EPAGHGDDEXPERTjohnnyboy no habla?

[@xtraCreamcheese]

no habla english?

[@Budgettools]

@@EPAGHGDDEXPERTjohnnyboy Trump is my president

[@B.E.Long.63]

Oso you're the best man...lol...

[@bryanreyes6459]

One of the best channels on KZbin , literally be binge watching this guy 👏

[@klc317]

Damn, that sucks!! Fortunately the driver is OK. The truck can be fixed or replaced, hope you get to keep it. It is a good lookin truck.

[@Wolf11915]

well the good news no one was hurt yeah going to cost you a lot of money but just be happy that the driver did not lose his life nor hurt anyone

[@chrisrainville976]

Great video Justin!,I’m sorry this happened to you and your company.i hope your luck turns around soon,man!

[@joshuaandrews9532]

I think it really isn't how the load came out so much. It's the soft ground that made it tip. My opinion.

[@joshuaandrews9532]

Or the angle wasn't good. It's hard to get a good angle on construction sites when operators don't know or don't give a shit about the trucks.

[@gmcjimmy3580]

Seems it wasn't hard over it didn't look like it tore up a lot of stuff I don't think they will total her out.good luck with her.

[@shiftyaloa]

yeah western star are built tough one of the reason they are super popular for the logging industries in alots of place

[@BenDover-rb5pj]

Aluminum bed are just fine if you put a stainless liner in.

[@JoAnneMarie214]

Thank you, I've driven Sticks and Allison's and yes, you'r right about the extra gears and the Drop offs. then when the Allison's get older, the Gears will slam sometimes.

[@boward6686]

A day in the life of a small business owner! You take all the responsibility you are the last one to get paid and it’s a headache from hell sometimes but you love what you do! I have a small excavating company I know just what you’re talking about! I feel your pain Justin!!

[@rickjohnson1632]

And one other thing, when your driving think about what ever you want. When you back into a pile , pop that tail gate and start to go up its time to do your job. Either you see what ever your hauling start coming out orrrr, leave the pto in gear, let the bed crawl going up while you exit the truck to see why the shit isn't flying out of that tail gate. It ain't rock science and I've done it hundreds if times. And, as far as loading with the grinder they ( the grinder) will always load you from the dog House back. That's the way it's done. And when at the plant loading asphalt, with a 50,000 pound six wheeler once I have my Mark for lining up with the chute the mix( asphalt) will hit the dog house and taper back and finish about a foot or two short of the tail gate. When I was lazy and didn't have to tarp it because it was too hot I would not even lock the tail gate. I knew exactly where the shit was at in that truck. They always load you from the the dog house back. With a semi naturally you have to move. How many times is up to the plant and what your loading out of, a silo or the plant. I never drove a multi multi axle straight dump truck like you guys have, I imagine its the same.

[@dieseljunkie]

Those "rubber blocks" are called bolster springs

[@scottwarrington3737]

The air cleaner lids are installed incorrectly. The plate goes to the front, not towards to the windshield.

[@andrewwilson8317]

My guess is they will write it off as a total loss. Seems a shame to write off a good truck but it not viable if it goes into a workshop with their costs. You get a replacement lease vehicle to take up the slack while it off the road? To stop roll overs we had trucks with what they called a walking bed. Like a conveyer belt in the bottom of the bed to move the load out as it was tipped. If the load sticks you end up with a lot of weight high up in the air. You did nothing wrong mate,shit happens.

[@phillipchavez755]

Modern suspension, very light , camel back suspension or walking beam for industrial hauling is preferred over Cadillac comfort

[@seth4567]

I subscribed at the intro

[@1970chevelle396]

That really sucks. At least no one was hurt. Never realized how expensive it is to have someone with a crane flip it back over.

[@TurboBMRProjectLove]

gotta pay for those tow trucks. they cost somewhere around $750,000 new

[@layoutman69]

Hey JUnkie sorry this happen .Im a inspector for NCDOT I spend a lot of time around dump trucks. Weather we're paving mill and fill or hauling borrow and stone. I have to climb in the beds to measure the cubic yards when we are hauling borrow. I measure the bed then the dog box subtract the two then take that number and multiply by 25% for shrinkage and get the payable cubic yards.

[@adamharper559]

Spray the bed..!!!! Smh

[@scottmorlock6640]

spray the bed with no 2 releasing agent

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Great video junkie hopefully the insurance will grant the repairs

[@michaelruffillo9367]

That’s why I always spray the floor with diesel fuel b4 I load. Slides right out 🔌💡

[@jamesw.tiptonjr.5739]

Justin i do this shit all the time rebuilding trucks it small stuff if thay total it out just talk to them and tell them you want to keep the truck and fix it over the winter you will be out of some wrench time and maybe a little coin but you'll have the truck fix the way you want it

[@robd7794]

Yeah, that's a bad day! Good luck.

[@losi8ightyew]

12:45 balls of steel standing in the line of fire of that cable.

[@fredrictown]

Do they allow to spray diesel in bed any more

[@southjerseysound7340]

I don't know about there but here in NJ you can't and they'll can the whole company if you're caught.

[@shantellaglia8804]

In Hawaii you can not spray diesel, but you can spray dis stuff called "slip shield " ...

[@RDC_Autosports]

i have vibrators on ours this never happened to us.... when we do milling we watch in the mirror and load it the way we want it not where the mill operator wants ... everyone’s different just the way we do things

[@Military-Museum-LP]

I use aluminium beds and haul asphalt and recycled asphalt. One truck has a heated bed. The exhaust goes into the bed floor and lower sides. I haven't had problems. My other truck has a liner. My problem with it is it can dump out like a dam breaking and overflow the paver. The operator on the pavers get pissed with this truck. I've never flipped a truck but I've seen a few flipped. Mostly frameless end dumps.

[@orkidknog4147]

the truck can be repaired or scraped, hope nick is ok, its only metal at the end of the day keep ya chin up justin

[@orkidknog4147]

yep but shit can happen to any body

[@danielsolberg1638]

A truck that flips over on flat ground? I'd never trust that thing again

[@w900lnation2]

Man that bed leans and twists a lot on that frame like the bed pins are missing.

[@ehsnils]

Looks like it's fixable - no broken windows is a good sign. Most of the stuff that you pointed out did look like wear items. My feeling is that it's the bed that took the most damage.

[@boyce1204]

Your truck flipped over because its a western star!

[@MrVile-bz9fw]

A few issues appeared to me {BUT I'M NOT STANDING THERE} 1 look hard at the frame under the mast cylinder , try to see if under load it flexes or allows sway. 2 I was noticing from the mast cylinder back to the 1st drive axle No cross frames near top of frame? How is this frame not flexing or swaying all that distance No cross brasses? 3 At Dog House Take note of WEAR Not damage But wear on the pin mount and pin journals. Might be part of the tendency to get a tip over going! 4 The tag axles Were they deployed! And I noticed they are set in {nearer frame} Than rear drive axles. All thoughts like I said I'm Not standing there!

[@mikemotteberg3527]

Go ahead and total it, And replace it with a peterbilt or kenworth.

[@bigdaddy28173]

If you bang the tailgate hard 5 or 6 times you wont have anything stick in there. Another thing you can do is get a vibrator in the bed. I hauled everything from millings base surface gravel. Never had anything stick. Only thing that may not come out by banging gate is wet red clay fill dirt. Good driver wont roll a truck. I drove for 10 years. Never had an accident.

[@steverone7623]

bigdaddy28173 sounds like this dude is making a ton of excuses why he did this

[@layoutman69]

Just don't do it in front of the paver! Or you'll get signed out for the day/night.

[@slicksloth_416]

bigdaddy28173 hot mix well get stuck on there too.

[@pjexc5500]

sorry to hear about your truck you will get her on the road again

[@joshuapruden6497]

99 problems nice touch!!!

[@GCraigmile]

It happens.. Thank God Know one got hurt!!! As you know I manage all most 70 dumps and any time I get that call “ One is on its side” the ONLY thing I can think about is,,,, Is the driver ok?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@DavidSmith-mk7qo]

I hate to see a truck as pretty as that hauling that nasty ass asphalt and grindings. But as they say somebody gotta do it. Good videos there. He explained why that old crap aint gonna work and what needs to be corrected. This guy has a knowledge of dumps that far exceeds anyone I ever met!!

[@Blazingflashover]

Keep us updated

[@joeframer9642]

Living the American Dream...own a business, take care of your family and help others along the way 👍

[@titoh.9461]

Yeah that sucks. You know what really sucks? Getting your dump truck stolen 16 hours out the dealership! It happened to me last night. My business crashed and burned before it ever took off!!😵

[@valonberisha7299]

You definitely got set up ….

[@titoh.9461]

@@valonberisha7299 they stole the factory radio. It was a brand new peterbilt quad. Losers. I hope they die a slow and painful death

[@groovejet33]

I was waiting for a new vid. Wasn't expecting this though

[@waynenorbreyjr9371]

I was thinking the same thing. I'm always waiting and looking out for new videos. Not ones that are about issues he's having.

[@MichaelJones1527]

I was wondering why you didn't have a live stream Saturday. Now I know you had a live SCREAM instead. HOW MANY F'S DID YOU SAY AFTER THIS HAPPENED?

[@chadmcgowen9707]

That's alot of f words and cigarettes on the back porch

[@donaldbartram6315]

Gotta keep those corners clean & free. I was hauling boulders one job & got some big rocks stuck up the Lucky I didn't run into troble trying to shake it out.

[@mariocatacchio8043]

I feel for you Justin I had my first truck go over on me too

[@midwestcatz5896]

Put a fuel sprayer on them with a 50ft hose reel ..... The hell with the Jucie Jug ... All you need is a lift pump from a f250 . Keep the bed greased and nothing will stick . My buddy just had his truck roll over .. He had his truck insured for 80,000 Well just cause you pay insurance for the truck to be insured at that amount doesn't mean you'll get 80,000. They battled with him and he ended up taking 36,000 .. Theres nothing he could do . Screw the insurance companys .

[@mikeorood1975]

MidwestCatz what would they do if you owed the $80,000 on a loan and the truck was only worth $36,000

[@midwestcatz5896]

Mike Rood give you 36,000 and you’d be fucked ... unless you had GAP insurance

[@mikeorood1975]

Nice. Kinda makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside

[@rustybrowneye]

I think the key to that whole thing is the f250

[@midwestcatz5896]

Yup best sprayer pump you can get ... 120 bucks 3/8 Fuel injection hose that shit will spray 35ft in the air . Use a air blower deal drill out a grease zerk and screw it in for the tip for the spray nozzle . Hop out grease her up . No smell in the cab and no bottles of diesel leaking in the floor and pain in the ass refills at the gas station . Just tap right into the motors fuel line . with a T fitting and a shut off ball valve to the hose reel .

[@Stephen-carr]

Never had an issue with millings or asphalt and we do a ton of both. Only time I seen 1 go over the scope blew apart. Half your issue is having a 7 axle. Those things twist like a slinky. As to the dog box, my steel body is bigger than both my aluminum beds.

[@Army_Of_Juan]

Do you guys leave the bed down when getting grindings? Up here in WA we rise the bed 1level of the post so the grinding start sliding to the back of the bed

[@jasonbabila6006]

I’ve seen Granite or Lakeside do that.

[@Ez-ko1gz]

Very good idea

[@WillFigs823]

It almost looks like the truck took minimal damage for something that tipped over.

[@michaelgamez3243]

Thats a awesome looking truck hope they fix it for u

[@ononewheel7]

My quad flips over a lot 🤣🤣🤣

[@blimster633]

Trying to explain driver deficiency lmao

[@roberthorton4983]

Try putting a liner in the body thats what they are made for. After the liner teach the driver he is in charge of the truck and how its load not the grinder operator. And last as a mechanic for 20years i have know alot of dump truck drivers hauling everything from asphalt to sticky clay and very few get layed over just look in the cab and you can see where the problem is its the driver

[@ethanwhite7891]

What a tank that's amazing you could almost drive it like it is

[@toxic1venom]

Hope all goes well. Ramen noodles are great supper sometimes. And have to settle for Milwaukee's Best beer. God damn I love trucking.

[@soulcut5736]

I noticed you didn’t show the driver side drive axles. It appears it was on the pile a little.

[@juanalvaradouser4877]

I’m going to start a crane business lol

[@rileytebben6794]

Is the driver ok