Is This The Best Value Sub Homage On The Market?

[@davidfranklin4677]

It's 6:30 AM here in Michigan USA, and every time I get a JOMW notification and tune in, you give me an instant smile! So much energy you share with me. T hank You Jody!

[@funkmon]

The best part about JOMW is the occasional surprise gags. Keep it up, man. And excellent review. It's in my shopping cart already!

[@Stu1027]

Bought this watch (Gaunqin) on your recommendation and I’m very glad I did! Would NEVER have touched a Chinese watch with a bargepole until I watched a couple of your videos. The weight is good, size is perfect, keeps time extremely well and it looks brilliant. Very very happy. I will definitely be looking to you for more recommendations. I mean, you can’t have too many can you?!

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

That's why it's called Just One More Watch, Stu!

[@user-xf7nn9zt4z]

It looks like Chronos now has the glide lock and no white outline around the date. Would love to see a new review of this one with the new changes.

[@karlsenula9495]

That is the version I just picked up. 👍

[@JasonTheWatchGuy]

I would 100% be taking the pt5000 movment, brilliant for the price you're paying for it!

[@Gravel1331]

The last time I was this early Jody sounded like Sean Connery.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Shurely shome mishtake?

[@Gravel1331]

@@JustOneMoreWatch Now that made me laugh.

[@michielroskam3877]

@@JustOneMoreWatch yoo get the calvin klein infinite, its a 200 dollar movement in a 150 dollar watch, saphire glass, swiss made, ive researched it and it was made by longines, or tissot (prob the latter)

[@yjmrules]

@@michielroskam3877 Its a quartz though isn't it? With a 30m water resistance?

[@michielroskam3877]

@@yjmrules noo its a 2824 eta

[@marcdecock7946]

Would be funny if Mercedes would finally ask Rolex to stop putting their star on their watches...

[@cv507]

and make tudöhr unnezä$$ärri€??

[@salty_terminal_civilian5374]

Damn I was just searching the best sub homage and this video pops up. Thanks for your amazing videos Jody!

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

I'd personally go with the PT5000 version myself. They're good movements, I've got another Cronos with it in. No issues at all.

[@mariog7213]

How long have you had it?

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

@@mariog7213 I've had it since September.

[@godGottgod]

@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR so basically brand new. An no answer about long term quality can be given

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

@@godGottgod calibercorner.com/hk-precision-technology-caliber-pt5000/

[@bubbaoriley7864]

@@godGottgod This movement has been around for about 5 years and several higher end China based manufacturers are using it while giving respectable 2 year warranties. The PT5000 has also achieved a Glashütte certification which is arguably better than COSC. If peace of mind is worth a 50% premium to you, by all means the SW200 is the way to go. Personally I can't see paying that much more for the SW200 when the chances are quite high that you're never going to notice a difference. If this were a $500+ watch, then I might think differently.

[@wed265]

Jody do you think the new cronos is the best Rolex Submariner homage out there right now ? 🤔 I just purchased it with the full loomed bezel and glidelock for 205. That has to be the best value don't you think? Ray USA

[@paulalbietz9719]

Hi Jody. Really appreciate the amount of high quality content you are putting out. I am enjoying your 11/11 efforts! Cheers. Paul

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

I'm done!! A few days off, then back with an Alpinist and a trench watch this weekend. Thanks for watching! 👍

[@Alias_Anybody]

I sometimes feel like for any watch without a dedicated certification process the performance depends more on pure luck than on which movement you pick.

[@drwindsurf]

This is like a blast from the past - Thank you for a great review Jody 😊👍

[@ionz75]

The best part of this one is that it doesn't say "Superlative Chronometer" at the bottom.

[@bjdenil]

I love this watch! I cannot get over how much I love this watch... I think it may be my favorite sub $500 watch, full stop. I can't afford it right now because of the Pandemic but Wow! What a great watch. As soon as I can buy watches again I will be picking this one up.

[@sellsidedream8766]

I just took delivery of my black one with the SW200 movement - no white border around the date window - its a pretty good watch for the price and arrived within 4 days of buying it

[@SunsetSheen]

Would love to see just one of these brands release a no date variant.

[@acefire6422]

Steel Dive do a no-date variant mate👍

[@pichaya250]

Tisell does the 'no date'

[@indyjoe36ify]

Invicta 1953

[@Jedi391]

Cronos now has a no date variant.

[@jonathanedwards2983]

Date is fine, I just don’t want the cyclops.

[@chrisc475]

Given the value of that Sw200, this watch should qualify for the "Swiss made" label. Bargain!

[@JimIBobIJones]

It also needs to be assembled in Switzerland.

[@robertlindo8058]

It certainly is a bargain. Just don't have it on anywhere that's dodgy.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

Most sWiSs mAdE watches are assembled in Switzerland like a parts kit from cases, bracelets, glass, dials, hands, and movement ebauches built in South East Asian. Cronos, Rolex, Tissell, whatever, doesn't matter, they are all SSDD.

[@conradkeith9093]

Instablaster

[@davidbarclay3651]

Now an applied logo, brushed bracelet, no white frame around the date window, and a lumed bezel. I also think they trimmed the lugs slightly. They listened to you Jodi

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

At least someone does, David!! 🤣🤣

[@NotoriousK_I_T]

I'm going for the Cronos seamaster in the AliExpress sale. I've got 2 San Martin submariner homages and an Invicta 1953, so I think I'm good in that department! 😂

[@TheSerbianG]

the seamaster looks great! Which versions/colours do you have of San martin? SM are creeping in prices and I'm hesitant to pull the trigger as I need a GMT function in my next watch.

[@NotoriousK_I_T]

@@TheSerbianG I have the Hulk 6 digit homage of the subby, and the new retro subby the released a few weeks ago. Both fantastic build quality. I'd argue that if you're not interested in a high beat movement, the NH35 powered SM submariner is the best homage you can buy.

[@lammer88]

Would love to see a video on Value Omega homages

[@darrengosine7000]

Brilliant, this video is one of the best that I have seen on the subject, so I subscribed.

[@wolktm]

Love your Griffith t-shirt! I went to QUT my self, brings back memories mate! Greetings from Poland.

[@Giuseppe_De_Bellis]

Wow! You are from Griffith?!! I have still a bunch of relatives there!!! (I live in Italy!) keep up the good work!! Ciao!!

[@Chrystjan]

Still in love with my Steinhart Ocean one, which is the perfect value for money homage 🥰

[@garmin1488]

If they had a No date version I'd be interested.

[@waris3732]

They have one now

[@UGA.D]

The frame around the date window is for the folks who, like with the Invicta Pro Diver, open the box and say, "Get this damn cyclops outta here!" and pop it off. It's the "Cronos no cyclops backup" aesthetic.

[@sellsidedream8766]

I just received the SW200 version - no white window around the date - i reckon they have watched this video and changed the dial

[@UGA.D]

@@sellsidedream8766 There goes my theory.

[@wimbraber944]

With Clycine combat subs now being around USD 320,- at Jomashop, I’d take a swiss made Glycine over a Cronos every day. May Cronos should do a no date sterile dial I’d just may be pick one up.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Combat sub made my Top 15 Ultimate Value list. At the right price, it is hard to beat indeed.

[@JP-rd9bt]

Agree! Glycine combat subs are a lot of watch for the price region 300-450.

[@NathanChisholm041]

I saw them on joma for $299

[@waris3732]

They've made a no date version now

[@Grudobolja]

Jody mate, my wallet is starting to hate you. Seriously, thank you for being so hardworking around 11.11 sale, great set of videos!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

That intro 😂 very impressive watch for the $!

[@lastofmykind8]

I literally didn’t even notice the white frame around the date at first, but definitely messes with the overall aesthetic of the watch. That, and the lack of on the fly adjustment is a bummer.

[@ianmosier2903]

Good review. It might be cool for you to do an aliexpress straps video. Maybe an example of what to look for when buying leather, rubber, brackets, etc.

[@armandr1613]

I really did not notice that date frame until you pointed it out....

[@daleclark3138]

Am liking these sub homages. Have a couple of Paganis now thanks to you and a Cronos L6009 Sea Dweller homage in transit. Looking for to that as the first Sea Dweller homage I have found.

[@RanenPo]

I wish someone would make a Tudor mini sub homage...

[@johnmuthan286]

Well you have the SanMartin vintage sub in 38mm..

[@RalDal]

Corgeut black bay

[@onursah]

Just One (guy who is loved) More (than) Watch(es). You've made my morning more beautiful, thank you Jody.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Thanks mate!!

[@ashsta9356]

Just orders myself one! They are now offering the watch without that date frame so went for that one

[@TheSerbianG]

Can't wait to see your comparison of the GMT homage models!! Purchasing my next watch based on that!

[@bubbaoriley7864]

Jody, I get that you want to see a Rolex homage with a Swiss movement, but this is after all a Chinese manufactured watch and not a Swiss manufactured watch. If Chinese manufacturing is good enough for the rest of the watch, then it should be good enough for the movement as well. The PT5000 is an excellent 2824 clone and the upgrade to the SW200 costs more than half again more than the version with the PT5000. Resale value of a $200 watch isn't the issue. Your timegrapher proves accuracy isn't the issue. So why promote a version of this watch with a 50% premium for a movement you can't see and will almost certainly never notice any difference? At the $200 price point for the PT5000 version this watch is a smoking hot deal. $300+, not so much.

[@minchrono24lover27]

@Biggles-in-Cyprus Nh36 sucks ass.

[@waterzap99]

You can always get the 2824 services. Main springs and other parts are readily available. Don't know how easy to get Pt5000 parts and if any 2824 parts fit. I'm not even a professional watchmaker and I have probably enough parts to fix any 2824.

[@scottsj4625]

If I did not have a Tisell Marine diver which is pretty much homage sub, I might pick this up. A real swiss movement. I think I paid 235 for the Tisell. It has protruding lugs which I hate. But easy to swap out being 2omm

[@randynovick7972]

The thing you didn't mention, which is also good about the Cronos, is that the magnifier actually magnifies! I gotta say, I like what they did with this. Unfortunately I have a squale 1545 and a ginault and there's no more room for rollie-omages in my basket. All the same, I agree with your review and this IS tempting.

[@Peter-ug4ql]

DO you like the Ginault or the Squale better? Have you seen a Davoso or a Steinhart?

[@randynovick7972]

@@Peter-ug4ql Good question! I would have to say that I like the Squale better because it's got a more cohesive style. The Ginault is finished beautifully, looks great and is comfy, and I do wear it, but I'm able to be less concerned about the Squale... it feels more casual.

[@AaronGood]

The SECOND you pointed out the frame around the date window I couldn't unsee it. Why?? They got everything else so right (almost as though they had some pretty solid inspiration...? Eh, probably beginners luck!)

[@dannythemedic]

The white frame on the date is a casio thing... looks good when no cyclops

[@jamesmcmanamy4704]

Got it with the PT 5000 and the accuracy is staggering. After 24 hours mine is about 3 seconds fast. Fantastic value.

[@karl_m3013]

The white frame around the date window is for people like me who hate the Cyclops and remove it with a small torch. It makes the date window look much better once a cyclops is removed.

[@whatsinanameish]

I have had a Cronos Smurf waiting in my cart two minutes after the 11/11 video came out. The impatience is real.

[@darrenfry4695]

Do shops sell these ,or do you have to buy them on lime.???

[@ricardochaveste7367]

Very cool indeed 👍👍great specs for the price picking up one my self before Christmas....is win. Win..

[@BetamaxBabe]

I wouldn't mind that date frame if they ditched the cyclops. The San Martin apparently shortened their end links so they jut less. Is that true of Cronos as well?

[@duckrutt]

I've got a dremel floating around somewhere. We'll make those lugs whatever width you want.

[@Kingofgoodtimes.]

Mine just came. It’s way nicer than I thought it would be. The bracelet and clasp is really nice. Date window gone, brushed links.

[@Throstlecock]

Is it me or does the 6 o’clock baton lean slightly to the left?

[@michaelbest5505]

Was that a "homage Jody" in the beginning? When do we get a review of that?

[@alanlake48]

Hey Jody, sorry to say, his drawing had a slightly better likeness than yours, only slightly though..... No needling at all there then. Love it! Keep it up

[@martinocando3072]

I'm seriously impressed with the Phylida homage, which I'm just editing the review and will be online on my channel in a couple of hours. Movement quality aside, the watch itself has all the goodies you can expect, including a fully brushed bracelet with screw in pins and a very usable easy-glide system. The bezel is ceramic, and fully lumed. And the overall lume of the dial is outstanding for a sub $100 chinese homage. Please give it a look whenever you have a chance. Your opinion about the best value Sub homage might change.

[@johnholland2825]

Where is the review?

[@martinocando3072]

@@johnholland2825 Hi John. I apologize for not uploading the review on time, but my new Glycine Combat Sub arrived, and I needed to get that one out first, but I promise that I'll get the Phylida review up before the end of the week, and I'll let you know.

[@periclesstamatis7549]

Really nice video, really nice watch! Thanks a lot Jodi for helping us maintain our sanity during quarantine, Cheers!

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Thanks for watching mate!

[@ForeverUnknowing]

HELLOOOOOOO JODY! This one's in the cart too! Perfect compliment to my This week is great for Ali finds. What do we get treated to next, I wonder?😎

[@raoulrayes6338]

What does it bring more than a Pagani ???

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

MUCH better than a Pagani, build is better, lume is better, clasp is better, bracelet is better, movement is better. MUCH BETTER!

[@r_ramendump9681]

The new models come with a glidelock clasp

[@watchalot919]

I would have the PT5000, it's a peach of a movement. Have one in my Geckota G-02 and it runs at 0 spd with a zero beat error. Good review, and the watch looks great value for money. Makes you realise how overpriced the Rolex is

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

I need to check one out, for sure.

[@johnmuthan286]

They are even certified by a German certification body and are used by some high end german watch manufacturers, so yes a great mouvement

[@5naxalotl]

ha! i was just posting on the G-02 ... advertised here for $70 usd ... which is presumably too good to be true? www.libellcca.com/products/geckota-g-02-40mm-eta-2824-pt5000-dive-watch

[@watchalot919]

@@5naxalotl that add popped up on Facebook, and I reported it. They are still £399 ($500) on the Geckota site. I believe that it is a scam, especially as the movement on its own would cost more than that. You will note that the add is a clone of the Geckota add, and whilst they advertise two movements, you can't choose the one you want. I have also forwarded the add to Geckota. Here is a link to Geckota's add www.geckota.com/watches/divers-watches

[@5naxalotl]

@@watchalot919 yes. i found a different watch company that posted a warning that libellcca were scamming people with fake ads of their own product. on the plus side, today i found out about the pt5000 movement, which is really interesting to me. would be a nice way to resurrect a non-running 2824 watch

[@flp800]

i like that old version of your cronos because of its high polished mid links and it looks more luxurious and elegant compared to cronos L6005.Where can I get that kind of cronos of yours if its still available?

[@borpir3829]

Hi Jody, about the white date window rectangular, l’ve just saw a review for a Squale 20 Atmos1545, on PerthWatch channel and it has the same white rectangular for the date window. That’s where they took the inspiration probably. The Squale rectangular is a little bit less apparent however.

[@fredoakes7441]

Hi..great review again..QUESTION:who has the best jubilee for this homage or the Sanmartin?? I just bought the black/gold homage from Sanmartin..really want a jubilee on it...any suggestions? Thanks Mate!!

[@deankirk8554]

Just ordered a v3 pt5000 today 😬

[@eggsII]

That chap was much shorter than you... I love that box! Is it a Chronos? Is it a San Martin? Is it a Steeldive?

[@owenang8246]

What would be a better buy, the pagani design subby homage or the bond homage?

[@waris3732]

I believe the bond homage. Good lume, good bezel action, I believe you'll stand out because there are far few omega homages than the rolex submariner homages. Don't go for the bracelet version of the bond homage though unless you have 9inch wrists. Even then I don't think there would be enough links for you to size it. Get it on a rubber strap and maybe get a mesh strap (or 2) like Jody suggests in his 11.11 picks video. Let me know what you choose, we all love watches

[@owenang8246]

Waris thanks for your opinion i was able to pull the trigger and get the bond homage thank you so much. Wouldn’t have gotten it without you.

[@JCDenton95]

Just get a Casio Duro and call it a day.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Duro sapphire mod video coming soon.....

[@tornagawn]

Get all 3! I did!

[@NotoriousK_I_T]

@@tornagawn then you're 1 short as there's a white dial version

[@GovindSingh101]

Wearing my blue dial Duro as i read this. Best watch ever

[@raptorpie100]

When i bought my Casio Duro, i realized that no other watch could do it for me. Its original, looks fantastic, highly legible, reminds me of Bill Gates. I would pay double if they upgraded the lume, sapphire crystal and reduced diameter by 1 mm.

[@viennakrakatoaleipzignumbers]

$200 swiss movement...+11s a day. Hell get an NH35 and call it a day in my opinion

[@johnmuthan286]

They have the pt5000 version.

[@gamblers220]

I bet the SW200 calms down after running for a bit, it be interesting to know how long Jody was running it before the time grapher. Mine runs -2 to +3, and after a week it averages out at about +5 (Never Regulated). It is WAY more accurate than my Seiko 4r36 which runs slow at -11 ro -18 a day (Never Regulated either) YMMV

[@MyAlan999]

@@gamblers220 My only experience with the SW200 came in the Boldr expedition and that was running -12 a day which i found very disappointing

[@gamblers220]

@@MyAlan999 That does not sound promising, in that case it may pay to have it regulated. Kudo's to a cool watch! Again, I can only cite my experience with the SW200 in my Alpina, maybe Alpina spent additional time regulating the movement initially. I also like the smoother sweep of the seconds hand due to 28,800 beat rate of the SW200. I also appreciate the NH35 for what it is too.

[@john_1066]

Video does sound a bit "sponsored"

[@gonzchi]

Is Cronos and San Martin the same brand / factory? The certainly look like they are

[@IBoughtAWatch]

Funny you should mention about increasing that 1mm because PHYLIDA already has, and tbh it was quite a surprised 😅! Great in depth review as always, been away from the comments section recently. Amazing how your own channel can take up loads of your free time! Don't know if you remember my first video way back when, but I've been slowly growing in the background and just thought I'd come by and let you know i've hit that 1000 subscriber milestone 🙌🏻 so wanted to say thanks again for helping inspire me to launch my own channel! 🤙🏻

[@kurtchallinor6990]

Hey Jody, which would you recommend... The Cronos Sub, Orient Kamasu or San Martin Water Ghost?

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Depends on what you want mate! Cronos for quality and submariner looks and feels, San Martin for specs and price, Orient for originality and brand name.

[@kurtchallinor6990]

@@JustOneMoreWatch You're too good! Thanks for the reply.

[@stephenspain9167]

I'll wait for the Pagani Design homage of the Cronos submariner

[@rainappleby]

The one on the link provided has different logo.

[@jeremynewland387]

Thank you for this! Time to start saving

[@juriendekter5042]

Hellloooo from Melbourne! Another cracking review mate, You have the knack *-wipes KB-* for making us drool!

[@mylesmooney7505]

Would you do a review on MWC 300m …. I got one fantastic watch, only thing is spring bars are small

[@TheYjmfan]

Hey, where did you get the Rolex clock?

[@Cloxxki]

Curious that with the maxi case, it's still 150 grams. Is the real deal the same? My skinny lug+guard Loreo with aftermarket milled clasp is 149 (day-date). I think I'd prefer a tad heavier.

[@WillyMcCoy50]

The best no-date is the San Martin SN006-G. Lots of BGW9 Super-Luminova, PT5000, female endlinks, premium oyster bracelet and "the look".

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Check my Top 10 Submariner Homages video. I didn't rate the San Martin, though I like their other watches.

[@WillyMcCoy50]

@@JustOneMoreWatch yea, I saw that video and enjoyed it very much.

[@watchesandcaps2566]

I'd go with the pt5000, especially when that sellita is putting out poor numbers like that on the timegrapher. In my experience sellitas are always running a little too fast for their added cost. The miyota 9015 in my Tisell runs no worse than +5 spd.

[@bgw893]

Does the no-logo version have the outline around the date window?

[@SpencerDean14]

Have you tried the Tisell Sub homages? The Marine Diver and the Submersible

[@chrisselders3548]

Tisell or Cronos? Will be watching to see if they drop the white frame on the date.

[@jananilcolonoscopu4034]

Tee hee "good result from the lume, the mark of a well-made watch"... you lume heads are crazy! :D

[@fvlok]

Would you mind doing a review of the new one?

[@jeff1176]

Date window white frame would look great with a black date wheel. Jmo

[@stusims6567]

Very nice with a great movement! I’ll take one...especially tomorrow on 11.11. It will be a great birthday present for myself! LOL

[@shafiqashraff2121]

What size of the Case back opener, because there are many size availability

[@spencealmighty]

reckon the box around the date is an insurance policy so they can show a clear difference if challenged by a copyright owner

[@liambyrne3488]

Hi Jody. I just took a look at the "pagrne" design store on Ali express and noticed they have a Rolex Daytona homage for sale with an automatic movement for £66. Surely worth a punt!

[@DoyThinksThis]

Is the dial matte or glossy?

[@BCallum]

Thanks for the review.

[@dasku6161]

Thanks for reviewing the cronos! Looking at getting one of these. Would you say the applied indices are white or more of a cream color like San Martin?

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Definitely white. A very well made watch. I'm hoping to get the PT5000 powered one in for a comparison too.

[@dasku6161]

Thank you!

[@algray9966]

I have a san Martin sub black face. I’d like a green face also, undecided on cronos or another San Martin. What would you or subscribers recommend please ?? Thanks

[@loneoak5066]

Do you know if this Cronos will size down to a 7 inch wrist?

[@karlsenula9495]

Just got it in the mid summer sale with PT5000 and glidelock just around $207.

[@algray9966]

Can you push for a no date version???

[@garyfff4757]

Great vid as always, I prefer the old Cronos script, lol.

[@bigtimepartytim]

Imagine hating on "Cronos" branding and then naming your own brand "Erebus" lol

[@alangray6961]

I hanker for the return of the 'Conan the Barbarian' logo branding on the dial to make this watch interesting.

[@baldeagle6128]

I totally agree!

[@punkoid76]

This logo?