Why 97% of Live Service Games Won't Exist in 3 Years

Live Service Games or Gaming As A Service has been the current trend that's blown up in the video game industry for the past 10 years or so and while some people think it's a great thing, others consider it an epidemic that's taken over.
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[@andersonsansonowski5644]

the perfect live service game model: 1- One currency that can be only earned through playing and NOT paying that lets you buy gameplay changing things and very few cosmetics 2- Another currency only avaiable through paying that only lets you buy only cosmetics that don't affect gameplay at all 3- NO F.O.M.O at all, meaning NOTHING in the game will ever expire or be time limited at all Extra: Having an RPG team to make sure that grinding doesn't feel boring but feels extremely engaging and fun just like some really good RPGs

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

Not perfect. Remove the live service/online only part! Remove grinding. In other words, no buying or grinding for gameplay changing things. No stomping new/lower level players with better gear/perks/etc simply because you're a toxic "no-life" veteran/"pro" player.

[@andersonsansonowski5644]

@@Nurse_Xochitl agreed

[@ziebus904]

@@Nurse_Xochitl game is dead in month and you still get shafted by people who know how to play congrats you achived nothing

[@gameboyadvancedsp6727]

1- Plants vs Zombies: Battle For Neighborhood 2- ...Also Plants vs Zombies: Battle For Neighborhood 3- ...Well, limited-time yes, but expiration no. They *always* return after a year (because each month is a Battle Pass). And yes: PvZ: BFN. Extra- I got nothing for you.

[@YouraverageFPSplayer]

Fortnite will not die for at the very least another decade. I think Apex, Call of duty, CSGO, and Valorant will alll last a good while before dying out.

[@TRUEGKL]

And why do u think that these games will last? And also there's no more cs go only cs2

[@DOGEELLL]

​@@TRUEGKLbecause casuals play whatever is popular the trend need to die for the games to be gone it probably will never happen

[@Helfirehydratrans]

I think Fortnite is going to come out on top of all of them the longest simply because they’ve expanded into multiple game genres Instead of just being a battle Royale shooter, it is a sandbox experience like Roblox

[@MattSimmons-ys3mv]

The clone wars truly have begun.

[@shiningfilmzph]

@@TRUEGKL It's still counter strike though

[@slayerstarx7109]

I really feel like the live service game pandemic has always changed with how people talk and feel about games in general, and i find that to be pretty depressing. This is why i stick to single player stuff. I don't really have a live service game that i sink time in so i'm grateful for that lmao

[@Coolouie]

not fortnite

[@vectorizlit4083]

Yeah Fortnite isn’t going anywhere anytime soon so exapecialy with its bet creative mode and Lego game modes

[@Yourfat247]

Still Fortnite

[@Yourfat247]

@@vectorizlit4083yeah no, Fortnite is gonna go soon. The Lego one especially since they won’t have any jingling keys left

[@Coolouie]

Actually yes. It's boring now I play Minecraft, SMM2 and other Mario Games

[@SpaghettiThePingas]

RuneScape is a love service game, and it’s been alive since release.

[@ChaseDizzie]

Why you folks waste your money and little time life offers on these scams, I will never understand.

[@andersonsansonowski5644]

There is no way fortnite will ever die and that is just facts like it or not

[@Yourfat247]

There’s no way Fortnite will survive and that’s a damn fact. Nice try

[@S1lv3r_fn]

SOMEONE PLEASE REPLY TO THIS COMMENT IN 3 YEARs SO I CAN CHECK IF FORTNITE IS stLL AROUND?

[@rarelyaccepted]

😹it definitely will

[@Yourfat247]

@@rarelyacceptedit’s literally not 😂😂

[@lynchmobb119]

Hunt showdown supremacy

[@micah459]

Advice for gamers. Don't buy a battle pass until you've completed it. This is so you don't waste your money

[@phoenixshell3772]

@micah459 man it feels like I'm getting old as a gamer because I have heard of battle passes but don't know exactly what they are 😂 never bought one, and battlefield 4 was last AAA game I played

[@alface935]

​@@phoenixshell3772 I got bad news for You friend: - Battlefield 3 - Battlefield 4 - Battlefield Hardline Got Delisted from the Sony Playstation 3 and Microsoft Xbox 360 Digital Stores on 31 of July of 2024 And on 7 of November of 2024 They are gonna shut down the Online Servers for thoses games on the PS3 and X360 too If You still have a Digital or Physical Copy of any of Thoses games with You and want to revisit thoses games for the very last time: You got until Day 07 of Month November of Year 2024 to do so Thoses games will still remain in digital stores for the Sony Playstation 4, Microsoft Xbox One and Personal Computers for the time being... and the Online Servers for thoses games on PS4, XO, PC will continue to exist for the time being too Have fun playing thoses dear games for the very last time Online on Your PS3 and X360

[@hollowfragment237]

@@phoenixshell3772it just a way to create FOMO during seasons cause after each season all the stuff goes away which makes people buy it to have the stuff but it’s all useless cosmetics tbh

[@TRG_R17]

This vid really didn't go into detail why live service won't be here in 3 years. All he say was butout, player mental health, and damage to the already damage industry. All the obvious one with nothing new to compliment them

[@DOGEELLL]

Because there is nothing to say Casuals play whatever is trendy so those trend like battle royales need to die but it wont happen

[@demisagoat]

Lumping Fortnite in with SSKTJL, Rogue Company, and Genshin Impact, and Splitgate is definitely... a choice...

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

people truly dont understand how popular it is

[@roadtomillion9499]

dude have no idea how much Genshin makes lol

[@DOGEELLL]

​@@roadtomillion9499ok? Pubg fornite league genshin make bank so what bruh all of those are slop with nothing special Battle royales always sucked if you played good shooters and open world genre has some of the worst gameplay in gaming

[@oo--7714]

@@roadtomillion9499 Fortnite still makes more money 💀

[@tsukifirst]

Genshin makes way more money compared all those games minus Fortnite, it’s definitely staying for atleast 3 years

[@Rainbowhawk1993]

Single Player gamer to Multiplayer gamer: “Wow, sucks to be you.”

[@prestigini3150]

Yeah I’ve became a singles player gamer again besides my side of overwatch and naruto

[@N1tr0u5]

Yeah im all single player bar fortnite with some close friends

[@KA-vs7nl]

even single player games are becoming infected with the live service plague

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

Yep!

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

@@KA-vs7nl true too :(

[@Solvvvv]

I literally am going through that right now. watching multiple videos on new game releases trying to re ignite my spark feeling bored playing valorant and apex over and over again. it is 100% why viewership of gaming streams has dropped. I also think the reason indie games are becoming more popular is because the developers actually seem to care about the game being enjoyable for the viewer unlike massive studios with multiple employees but ultimately they do not have the resources to compete with triple A studios in the long run.

[@MattSimmons-ys3mv]

Playing the same thing over and over got boring? Holy crap youre Nostradamus or something. Indie games are also ruining the market by watering it down with 10,000 new titles every day, not helping it.

[@Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212]

Buy an xbox 360 or if you have a pc then like play xbox 360 games

[@Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212]

​@@MattSimmons-ys3mvindie games tbh can never be AAA games its a trend that people love indie games cus they are good cus alot of them are good but more of them are bad tbh i wouldn't know cus there are so many indie games AAA is something else from indie games they can present a detailed open world and story with vast variety of characters who are fleshed out indie games cant do that alot of the times

[@erikaleksandermoe1634]

I never play multiplayer games precisely because of the stress it puts on the player so I’ve stuck to single player. I am also of the opinion that if the game is a single player game and is a live service then you don’t own your copy of the game. If a game is really good I tend to play it many times for years after it came out. I still play games like Dragon Age Origins and nowadays I always get the message that the Dragon Age servers are down every time I start it. Image that if it were a live service game. There are two criteria for me that have to be met for me to buy it, no micro transactions and not live service.

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

I'm okay with microtransactions on the condition it's not P2W/gambling and that the game in question is free or very low priced to begin with. Developers do need to be able to eat after all. :) The problem is, most microtransactions are done wrong... and worse shoehorned into full priced games. Other than that, I agree with your criteria. :) Game ownership is required, not optional. Non-manipulative practices only is required, not optional. Failure to meet these basic requirements = no purchase for me. I will even turn down request from friends who offer to buy me such games that don't meet the requirements, for example Battlebit. Battlebit is a live service game (no offline bot mode/campaign).

[@Skumtomten1]

I think I have done 8 full playthroughs of DAO. Amazing game from a time where games were fully playable offline. These days are gone, even for single player games now

[@BeachSalad]

Great video as always Steven! I may be biased because I have been playing since October 2017 but Fortnite is on an entirely different level. Yes it's fun, yes the cosmetics are what pulls people in a lot of the times but with how massive and accessible it is, I don't see it dying in the next 10 years. Eventually it will die obviously but with how much they are putting into the game it's kinda wild to say it will die as early as these other games. With OG 2, UE5, UEFN, Creative, Lego, Festival, Rocket Racing and the new upcoming Disney Collab "metaverse", I don't see Fortnite dying anytime soon.

[@daewalker3636]

Fortnite has been the one game to keep it going, the rest of these games have been trying to recreate that same success. This is clickbait at its finest

[@Yourfat247]

Fortnite has been trying to keep that success but failing at the same time. The other games are the exact same. This is trolling

[@RDRedline]

Hyper scape was closed a log time ago

[@nestormelendez9005]

Exactly

[@matthewrodgers740]

Fortnite cannot even be put into this category. The game is not being sold under a perpetual license or a subscription license. It’s free to play. But that game is extremely predatory. Everything is locked behind pay walls and the day will come when the servers will get shut down everything that has a beginning has an end and epic games will laugh at you all and say thanks for the money and enjoy not playing with all the skins and outfits you paid money for.

[@batox7764]

Fortnite is still played by millions since 2017. Ain't no way it's gonna die in 3 years.

[@Yourfat247]

Fortnite has lost most of its players at chapter 1. No way it’s gonna move past 3 years

[@matthewrodgers740]

These companies need to stop selling live service games under perpetual license and sell them under subscription license. Thus the game should be free and you have to pay a monthly subscription fee.

[@ZaidyFG]

I think fortnite isn’t going anywhere. After 6 years they are still breaking records and easily having 1 million concurrent players.

[@Yourfat247]

Fortnite is gonna fade out. Its players are gonna move to the next big thing, they aren’t gonna ‘break records’ with the shop

[@Luci-pz8xx]

I will never understand why people will play a game they don't like for hours every day to unlock cosmetics or gain a higher competitive rank that means nothing in the real world

[@jonahhammond2438]

Nothing in games means anything in the real world, story or live service

[@extra4542]

because they mean nothing in the real world so this is all they have 🤣

[@Luci-pz8xx]

@@extra4542 In the real world they are a NEET. But in game they are the second coming of Thor.

[@Ethan5985.]

​​@@Luci-pz8xx unfortunately it's fomo/fear of missing out. I had that on sea of thieves. I literally had withdrawn symptoms it was very bad don't ever touch them I just play older games now

[@vernal5545]

If they are doing it it probably means they like the game.

[@Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212]

i uh play 10 to 14 year old games xus im 15 and i didnt play those masterpieces absolute works of art glorious absolutely glorious games recently finished mafia 2 great game

[@tableprinterdoor]

Can't wait for this vid to be 3 years old

[@jiggerypokery2962]

I have to say, i had to work alot and catch up on sleep alot over the past 2 weeks. I'm glad as a now single player gamer i could just do that and not lose out on anything. Maybe a little skill in my current game, well see, but nothing life altering.

[@WannaDJ]

And this is why I don't even bother to try out new live service games. I just stick to singe player and COD (which also sucks but it is what it is).

[@Ecdemaniac]

Does bro think Fortnite will die? Wether we like it or not, its not dying

[@_NormalEditor]

The only reason Epic Games brought back the old map was because the game was dying 💀

[@BeachSalad]

It will die though, just not anytime soon.

[@Seoul_Soldier]

@@_NormalEditor Some of you have a really weird definition of "dying", since Fortnite still had more concurrent players at its lowest point than any other game in this video had at its peak. Hell, make that most games. Epic brought back the old map just to placate so-called "OG" players who wouldn't stop crying. And it worked. Because whiny crybaby gamers are predictable.

[@DOGEELLL]

Casuals will keep playing slop garbage like this if you want good games you have to search for it

[@vernal5545]

@@DOGEELLLwhy is it slop garbage? Just cuz you don’t play it?

[@maxibustos7887]

Honestly speaking fortnite is the only live service game to never die out of all the other you mentioned, not to mention that unlike it's failed competitors like apex, hyperscape or splitgate, fortnite is built on a strong foundation (unreal engine) besides most of fortnite's competitors are shooting themselves in the foot like what happened with the recent battlepass changes with apex legends

[@rexi1414]

Live Service... I mean, I know it's way more complex, but it really too feels like a bad version of an MMO fever out there haunting the gaming industry and trends... Everybody is just copying what's trending and making an MMO out of it... It was doomed from the onset.

[@DuoGaming_123]

ahh rogue company, was alright then they basically take ages to update LIKEEE they update it every like 6 months now, so i quit it like 4 months ago

[@tauripaulus1710]

Todays players want only graphics..live services..online battleroyal shit

[@chefmike3794]

Bad take

[@Yourfat247]

Good*

[@maakasuekano776]

Is there a way to make Genshin Impact a normal offline game. It's not like I like the game or anything!😒

[@jbsprayy]

Yeah youre completely right but im gonna keep grinding the finals instead of sleeping

[@HealyHQ]

"Live Service Games" are trash. I prefer games you can actually own and play at your own pace.

[@DOGEELLL]

True i dont get how bad your gaming taste has to be to think live service online games are good just because they are updated Those updates are also manipulation they never change core gameplay or anything crazy why bother when they just release skins garbage maps ect I play games whenever i want how i want that respect my time and have solid quality none of that exist in those its all slop

[@hush9185]

@@DOGEELLL no one cares

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

@@DOGEELLL Sometimes they change core gameplay, and it's neraly always to the detriment of the original identity of the franchise. Rainbow Six Seige is nothing like Rainbow Six 3 Ravenshield. Live Service is Disservice to gamers!

[@Yourfat247]

@@hush9185you do, cope more

[@alface935]

8:28 Yup thats Him The Controller Destroyer He is a Expert in getting kills He didn't deserved because He drop shoot it at the last second which results in the person on the other end to eat Their controller Because You know Who has a lot of feelings? Blokes that bludgeon Their Wife to death with a golf trophy. Professionals have Standards /lh /j /q /c /ref

[@2fast4dad]

I might be in the minority here but I genuinely love live service games and only begin to dislike them when the game becomes unfun. I think apex fell off really hard for me around season 13 or 14 while I absolutely loved seasons 3, 4, and 7. For me each match of these games is a story and when you reach the end you can just continue again and again whether you're getting your ass beat or not. The thing that brings the most enjoyment for me is when you get into a match and throughout the whole match it's clear you're so evenly matched you don't know who's going to win, that competitive nature is what makes these games great. I'm not a huge fan of fomo but I don't really want these types of games to disappear (I know they won't) having a game get constant updates with years of support is awesome, they just need to find a way to keep that content consistently high quality. (especially when it comes to studios like EA, ubisoft, or activision, they make so much fucking money there's 0 excuse for them to be bumping out terrible updates)

[@Seoul_Soldier]

I would like live service games more if they weren't disgusting money-pits full of FOMO, over-priced cosmetics, abusive battle passes, and bad matchmaking. They COULD but great, but they generally aren't. They are bad for the gaming industry as a whole and are the main reason it is currently imploding. And I don't know about you, but I never feel "evenly matched" in really any of these games. Either I'm stomping my opponents or I'm getting stomped. It never feels fair and generally isn't fun, which is why I don't play them. Live services could have been awesome, but thanks to executives being greedy and gamers mindlessly buying dumb crap they are just expensive frustration simulators pretending to be video games. If people like you are the audience for live service games then maybe I need to stop gaming altogether, because I couldn't disagree with you more if I tried to.

[@ipaddleYOass]

So do u still get excited to hear the word new Live Service games or does it turn u off?

[@2fast4dad]

@@ipaddleYOass I mean I'm not looking for those types of games specifically. If it looks fun I'll probably give a try. I also think I try to ignore that term anyway when someone is trying to sell me on a game. A good example is the finals, I had been pretty hyped for that game after playing the playtests and yeah it's a great game.

[@2fast4dad]

@@ipaddleYOass I should clarify I'm talking about free to play live service games with a few exceptions. I would never say skull and bones or suicide squad the justice league is worth it and those types of games are 100% ruining gaming in some way or another

[@DOGEELLL]

Live service is the biggest trap scam made by talentless fraud that cant make good games thats why you see casuals addicted to those game they hate so much Its hooking you for your money time and worse its not fun generally

[@juanclaudio1103]

You have good arguments. However, i'd be interested in reasons why people who dislike live-service games don't just straight up ignore them? Is it the 'they're stealing our premium games' idiocy? Like, there's tons of premium games out there.. more than any person can play. Reality TV also didn't kill fictional TV. I can't wrap my head around it.

[@Wayrail]

F-zero 99 is one of my favourite battle royale games

[@JustSaySteven]

I love it but man I just cannot get a win lol

[@Evgeny-p5f]

So true, mate! Thanks for the video; it was an eye-opener!

[@izzyjoshuadavis]

All the games I play with seasonal passes currently: 1) Apex Legends 2) Dead By Daylight 3) The Finals 4) Deceit 2 I legit hate play The Finals just to get the seasonal pass done. 😂😂😂 I don't even like the game that much really. I only go on Dbd to finish challenges so I can get my pass done and not open it until another update happens. Apex I mostly enjoy it despite bitching about small things. Deceit 2, the immature lobbies make me annoyed and it's been hard for me to finish the current season. So yeah you're kind of on to something. 😂

[@Neon_Bayhem]

Not gonna watch the video this was just in my recommendations but 97% of anything that's following a trend won't last 3 years. That's normal. Corporations see something is popular, they go in too late, the don't understand why it's popular but copy it anyways, the move to production too quickly to try to catch the trend so they cut corners and steamroll pass steps, the first thing that blew up already has all the mindshare and for all those reasons it's logical that 97% of anything won't last. Late stage capitalism is a b*tch!

[@jackintoshgamer]

Yeet

[@stardustdragonx3612]

Now call of duty that game force people to log in every day.

[@arocomisgamusclademork1603]

Spyro the Dragon vs Genshin impact, What do you think and thought those game title?

[@TheOJsimp]

Fortnite will never die .. unless the earth blows up 😂

[@TheOJsimp]

Spell break is one game is wish didn’t die .. the magic combos were insane ❤

[@Yourfat247]

Fortnite will die in the next 3 years 🤣🤣

[@ZetaMoolah]

Live service games are digital shopping malls with arcades inside of them.

[@unkown34x33]

10 years... won't exist in 3... dude fortnite it's cancer, but... I don't see it going away anytime soon. it's a cockroach on my foot!

[@Yourfat247]

Bro… fortnite is gonna go

[@rustglombadesouza8953]

A comunidade gamer merece o que está passando. No mercy.

[@Timmy-torme]

Even though I stop playing Fortnite or even video games in general I think game cannot die cause they will always be some people who will love game a lot

[@MattSimmons-ys3mv]

Wow bro, wow.

[@MattSimmons-ys3mv]

I love game a lot

[@Yourfat247]

Fortnite is gonna die as it’s remaining players are gonna move with the trend

[@vjollila96]

only live-service game i today play is iracing and that game has been around since 2008 im pretty confident its not gonna die anytime soon

[@goldenninja9053]

You kinda need to be informed that Genshin Impact and Fortnite are not going anywhere for a long time. They make tons of money, and Fortnite recently expanded to be a metaverse, having multiple modes to offer because of how much they've made.

[@assad37216]

good analysis and approach on this ngl, good vid

[@Donud]

fromsoftware: am i a joke to you?

[@gameman876]

It’s interesting how all these games launch broken but there in game store and MTX work day one without fail.

[@SappyEuphoria]

“Do your remember feeing that sense of gratification from finishing that game” no I remember crying because I was 9 and watched all my favorite characters die in halo reach

[@slayerstarx7109]

That part where you were talking about how they will go from hating the game, and back to loving it because of the current battlepass is literally some of my friends that play OW and fortnite lmfao. It's funny how true that is XD

[@kio9906]

Isn't that the point? We shouldn't be playing the same game forever

[@Godspeednihilo]

You should be able to play the games you like and want. Regardless of how old or how long it has been

[@Yourfat247]

Nope, the point is we should be able to play our games how we want and not be victims to predatory micro transactions

[@stardustdragonx3612]

If you say genshin impact login is there to entice people to turn it on every day lol, you are sadly mistaken every content creator and everybody who I ran into randomly on genshin they said they only do the dailies once in a while if not at all. Not to mention you can play through the entirely of the game without ever wishing for a character.

[@DOGEELLL]

Nice mental gymnastics It is made like that in sort of you gamble with this rng There is a reason why loot box trash is banned in belgium netherlands it is predatory gambling with fomo time sunk fallacy

[@TipSheikh]

The Finals was the last solid launch and successful game as of late IMO, too early to tell bur 6 months in they are doing good