The Rings of Power: The Dumbest Plan Ever

[@frankb3347]

It's hard to write a character with a moral compass when you don't have a moral compass.

[@glennwwicks]

I think you hit the nail on the head here, and it applies to almost all modern tv and film writing.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Absolutely correct!

[@suenzhong7891]

"Your moral compass is a roulette wheel!" -Lelouch from Code Geass Abridged

[@balintvasvari7573]

@Char ding ding ding

[@compostsmurf5519]

these kinda writers clearly have lived very sheltered lives, not gaining any experience outside their comfy bubbles

[@qaztim11]

Hats off to the madlads that managed to con Amazon out of a billion dollars.

[@tempestfowl1985]

At this point it looks like Bezos is just laundering one billion dollars through this shitshow

[@miller42]

They have learned from the best (JJ Abrams).

[@Jonkin715]

As the old saying goes, "There's a sucker born every minute."

[@oliverizzard8751]

Nah, Amazon probably found a way to get a 2 billion tax cut out of this.

[@squidikka]

@@ChadKakashi Translators note: Plan means "keikaku."

[@justlivin2499]

As an aspiring author, I have to say, the show has taught me so much, because of this show I now know how to not write characters and how not to create tension. Thanks ROP.

[@reek4062]

The show has better characters than the PJ LotR adaptations. The show only ruins one existing character, Galadriel, while the PJ movies ruin many characters. The PJ movies degrade Frodo, Merry, Pippin, Gandalf, Treebeard, Gimli and Legolas, and they butcher Aragorn, Denethor and Faramir.

[@Gengh13]

It's also a good reminder that no matter how bad a writer you are, you can still work in a billion dollar project.

[@scipio764]

@@reek4062 Which character did PJ's trilogy ruin?

[@Rjasper499]

@@reek4062 Not a good take.

[@petriew2018]

@@reek4062 so in addition to having never read the books, you haven't seen the movies either.... what a shock....

[@takingbacktoxic7898]

The problem is that you are actually watching the show, and listening to the dialog. This show is meant to just run in the background while people stare at tiktok on their phones, and only look up when the music gets tense.

[@patriciofernandez6500]

Smartest comment on KZbin

[@tsnophaljakarax9963]

Oh god, it's the Paranormal Activity movies all over again!

[@davidstone-haigh4880]

Yep, IQ the same as their shoe size!

[@askeladd958]

Lmao

[@Condoctuc]

So true, its a tik-tok generation no attention span tv MASTERPIECE

[@uyscuti5376]

Galadriel, in the books, is psychic. She can communicate telepathically and can read minds. But in this show, she's all awkward and asking the wrong questions. She asks him, " hey, your wife is dead. What's up with that?" I had to turn into Grandpa and scream at the TV for a little while

[@tun0fun]

Yeah, she was able to tell that Sauron, when disquised as Annatar, was of evil intent.

[@tsnophaljakarax9963]

The show basically forgot she even had powers, because they just wanted her to wield a sword so she can be "badass", while the original Galadriel was so powerful, she didn't even really need a weapon.

[@tun0fun]

@@tsnophaljakarax9963 That's been my argument to people all along. She's one of the most magically powerful beings on the world and they've reduced her to hitting stuff with sharp bits of metal. The writers are so devoid of creativity that they couldn't make her tough and powerful without giving her masculine traits.

[@methuselahhoneysuckle4813]

It's like Making Professor X fight like Wolverine instead of having his telepathic powers, as if the only way to be powerful is to smash stuff with your fists (or slash it with claws in W's case). I would argue that a character like Professor X or Galadriel is more powerful than somebody who can swing a sword, but what do I know, I'm just some... Ahem. Sorry. Got carried away for a moment.

[@AbsentMinded619]

And then he rambled in the most embroidery-on-a-wall cliche fashion about nothing at all, only to pause and say, “she drowned.” The comic timing was excellent but I don’t think that’s what they were going for.

[@rafaelgustavo7786]

If we analyze this series without remembering the books, this series is still dragged, full of clichés, lazy solutions, bad performances, bad dialogue and cheap. They don't seem to have invested 1 billion dollars.

[@spktrspktr3111]

To me it seems like a massive money laundering operation as well as a deliberate act of cultural vandalism.

[@oddmanout8692]

Simple answer... Whoo Hoo! Take the money and run.

[@Reverandfatdave]

Man, inflation really hit Amazon hard. They made an early 2000 sci-fi channel minis series and it cost them a billion dollars...because of inflation.

[@lordgeddo_egy4049]

It’s cuz they got nothing to work with no material no talent to match what u expect from such an IP ..

[@ghyslainabel]

Or, they put all the money in the second season, and were left with not much to write the first one.

[@becmiberserker]

Clearly Galadriel has as much chance of being Sauron as anyone.

[@MrGreenAKAguci00]

Damn... Maybe she is.

[@storrantv3270]

That moment when she rip her face and you see sauron behind the mask: it saurin time! and wack second hand aragorn on the head

[@balintvasvari7573]

Truely

[@ofal5124]

maybe the real sauron was all the friends we made along the way?

[@compostsmurf5519]

that's about the only way they could go about salvaging any reputation from this disaster, and its a fkn horrible idea 😆

[@EvilClowns69]

My favorite part is when Guy-ladriel has the nerve to tell discount Aragorn to not let revenge consume him. Like it hasn’t been her main motivation since the start of the show

[@darianstarfrog]

EXACTLY!!! Mindblowing! How are these people so lacking in self awareness!?

[@dusk6159]

WHAAAT?!?! SHE is saying that?! What the hell

[@JulieMoran1832]

Guy-ladriel: Halbrand/Sauron stop! Don't kill Ador. Revenge is not the way! A few minutes later... Halbrand/Sauron: Guy-ladriel no! Revenge solves nothing! *headdesk*

[@EvilClowns69]

@@darianstarfrog because it’s a show by lazy hack writers that only cared about pushing the message (the critical drinker voice)!

[@thomasjefferson2676]

The “writers” really are an obtuse bunch.

[@YTDariuS-my6dg]

Holy shit. I just realized something. The writers are LITERALLY comicbook villains. What do I mean? Because in the scene where Gal- sorry, Strong Woman threatens Papa Orc (?), we all realize she's fucking nuts and evil to the bone, yeah? But you know what I bet the writers though? "Oh wow, we're gonna show just how strong and powerful Strong Woman is!" They literally, by default, associate power with cruelty. And they don't know or care that they're in the wrong. It's actually really ironic.

[@rubensoeteman]

Model wamen to pioneer our future

[@YTDariuS-my6dg]

@RollandB okay, your comment is literally unnecessary as it does nothing to discuss or expand the topic, you're just whinging about people not meaning literally literally. Which is a very common way to emphasize a strong feeling or opinion and is expected to not always be... Literal.

[@YTDariuS-my6dg]

@RollandB unfortunately, the wide accessibility of the internet, as well as it's arguably primary use of stress relief (for most people) leaves online lingo feeling virtually the same, until some new big thing shakes stuff up and adds a new word or two. I agree that use of language is uninspired, but nobody comes to a KZbin comment section looking for particularly well written or verbose literature. It's not that people on the internet can't or won't write their opinions more imaginatively; you're looking for nice writing in a place where nobody intends to write it. If I have particularly profound thoughts or, God forbid, an original argument, I certainly won't leave it in a KZbin comment section; not if I care about it. I post it on a blog, or make a video if I want it on this platform, or I privately discuss with like-minded individuals.

[@pascaleelliott63]

Hearing what Galadriel says to Adar, a tortured and broken man, just boils by blood. To this I ask "What can men do against such reckless hate?".

[@Schwifter_]

"She drowned" "The sea is always right"

[@compostsmurf5519]

🤣

[@rafaelgustavo7786]

Galadriel was supposed to be a sage and a political opponent of Annatar's reformist ideas. She was a philosopher-queen in the end of the Second Age. In the series she is a Karen. Sauron should be a (pseudo) Promethean figure generating religious engineering in Middle-earth. Here, he is a mystery box of JJ Abrams, like he did with Rey's parents in Star Wars. Númenor should be a discussion about death vs life vs human nature. But here we had: Make Númenor Great Again. This is a woke disaster.

[@dusk6159]

Sauron: tei took mey jeeeb!

[@bishnes]

Halbrand isnt Sauron, geta grip

[@ziephel-6780]

@@bishnes He never said that

[@The_Other_Brother_Karamazov]

@@ziephel-6780 he did not. Bet I am still betting Halbrand is Sauron. 😂

[@petriew2018]

@@bishnes of course he's Sauron, it's both incredibly obvious and incredibly stupid, meaning these writers can't help themselves

[@Dreadroberts]

Never have I rooted for the villain of a story so much.

[@sigmacademy]

When they introduced Adar, I was TOTALLY Team Orc. Yeah...

[@visbaluz]

Sure AM all team orc now , but still 2nd to avatar .. man i was like : NUKE EM FROM ORBIT , Game over man , Game over.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Why would you root for the writers?

[@eliwoodnguyen1505]

Stop rooting for Karen Galadriel

[@YourRaincloud]

He’s also one of the only characters in the show who looks like he’s from middle-earth.

[@Marshmellow3971]

The scene where Elf Karen casually advocates for genocide could have been used to show that in her quest for revenge, she was no better than Sauron, and from this revelation she could have a change of heart. But she can’t have a redemption arc because the writers don’t think there’s anything wrong with her as she is.

[@codylightful]

You can't write a character with morality if you have none.

[@Marshmellow3971]

I think a more accurate statement would be the writers don’t believe there are bad actions, only bad people.

[@lingricen8077]

‘elf karen’? Cringe. Easiest DISLIKE I ever gave a comment

[@dflatt1783]

@@lingricen8077 You actually like the way Galadriel is portrayed? They butchered her character. Literally and figuratively. " From her earliest years she had a marvellous gift of insight into the minds of others, but judged them with mercy and understanding, and she withheld her goodwill from none save only Fëanor. " Yeah. That.

[@decwow]

"You're perfect as you are, girlllllll"

[@Incalor]

What Strong Wahman said, regarding murdering all Orcs while keeping Adar alive, is pretty similar to what Morgoth said to Hurin, that he will keep Hurin alive while letting him see all his children suffer. So maybe Strong Wahman is Morgoth just as Halbrand is Sauron? Might explain the love-in.

[@balazsvarga1823]

Nothing can stop a fujo with yaoi in sight.

[@emorsi]

Damn... at this point you are maybe right and she IS not Galadriel but some evil spirit like Morgoth himself. These writers are so dumb and bad that this could really be a thing. I am not kidding here.

[@rhawkas2637]

It IS a masterclass in writing. It just happens to be a masterclass in what NOT to do.

[@BBRocker75]

You nailed! 👍👍👍

[@znail4675]

In a way so does this show help the future make better shows as it clearly shows what is bad, the question is if Amazon can take advantage of that.

[@Gaming_Sparky58]

I watch it because it is a pretty good comedy tbh.

[@katofdarkcrest]

@@Gaming_Sparky58 not if you're any kind of fan of Tolkien's works. to those of us who are this series is just one insult after another

[@Gaming_Sparky58]

@@katofdarkcrest Oh I know I've just learnt to laugh at how bad they screwed up and still deny it.

[@carlwatson7287]

The white orcs and the flaming pitchforks were a subtle metaphor for something....these writers are good. Too good

[@Hilaire_Balrog]

I’m surprised no one has mentioned this before you. It was so obvious to me.

[@ExeErdna]

The funny thing is aren't the orcs supposed to be the "oppressed"

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

But orc lives matter!

[@kenjikune2565]

Maybe we should grab our pitchforks, gotta cleanse these bad writers bois.

[@sifuhotman1300]

Cheap, dumb allegories... Just like Tolkien wanted... Given his Letter 113. (He's spinning in his grave)

[@starryeyedwho]

I completely agree that Adar is by far the most sympathetic character in this show. I really shouldn’t be rooting for the villain.

[@reek4062]

Yes, the show is miles better than the jackson movies. Go and fight me, fake LotR fans.

[@maryokeeffe3528]

Heroine and Villain have a confrontation, One of them boasts about how they are going to track down and exterminate every last one of the other's people, keeping the other alive to see it all, before killing them at last. Hint: It's *not* the Villain doing this. Right now, I was delighted when Adar's plan worked. A homeland for the Orcs, hurrah!

[@crhu319]

Yes you should.

[@AbsentMinded619]

“Do you know why a ship can float and a rock cannot?” Yes this is miles better than the movies which had Tolkien’s actual timeless writing and dialogue. Hot take , that.

[@salemk.3098]

tha harfoots are the villains

[@kidpeligro7878]

Adar was made a symphatetic character with a somehow understandable motive. Galadriel was made petulant, vengeful, genocidal and a battle junkie (she said it herself she can't stop fighting) Some quality writing they have here 🤣🤣🤣

[@DingbatToast]

"Galadriel: Battle Junkie" will be the follow up anime series next year.

[@Love-Sensibility]

​@@DingbatToast I can see it being a cyberpunk ghost in the shell thing

[@obscur_artiste]

Galadriel is on the perfect arc... to become a Lord of the Sith.

[@balazsvarga1823]

Darth Karen.

[@FiliusFidelis]

You'd think a species who lives in the dark and is so sensitive to light that they'll actually start sizzling in direct sunlight AND is basically a twisted mutated Elf to boot would have very keen eyes and not need torches to see after dusk.

[@skyintatters]

To be fair, orcs in the books do carry torches, only some of them have night vision that good, but the burning in the sun is bullshit.

[@darianstarfrog]

Yup..but this one of hundreds of problems with this 'show'

[@sigmacademy]

You would think that Orcs wouldn't destroy their night sight by carrying a torch directly ahead of themselves just before they need to fight. Or pounding war drums when a stealth attack would have been better. Or trying to approach in large and obviously visible groups in the middle of the night (unless it was SUPPOSED to be a terror tactic). (but OF COURSE we needed a night attack just like Game of Thrones).

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

But they were WHITE orcs and TIKI torches...

[@jacquelineking5783]

The torches would make sense if they planned to try and burn the village.

[@TheSleepLes]

What Galadriel says to the ‘father of Orcs’ is basically the same what Morgoth said to Hurin when he sat him in the chair on Thangorodrim. A monstrous hero indeed she turns out to be .

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Villains can't write heroes...

[@Meldon-qw6vk]

Exactly!

[@Frostflame29]

Spot on. Even Feanor at his worst wasnt so cruel.

[@abrahamvivas9540]

@@Frostflame29 She is just Feanor... Obsessed with revenge, created by Morgoth... So, in a sense, Adar is right, she has been created by Morgoth... Well it made more sense with Feanor... But I guess it's what they're trying to... To project in her character a Feanor-like Eldar...

[@Frostflame29]

@@abrahamvivas9540 On further thought discount Cersei Lannister.

[@s4usea]

I've said this before, but in 2nd grade we had a pet rat that did the twitchy-upper-lip nose thing that Galadriel does when she's sneer-y, and I can't unsee it.

[@viledemon7984]

LOLOL! 🤣

[@carstenwagner3355]

Galadriel seems to be a vandalised version of Feanor. Feanors father was killed by Melkor. Feanor called him Morgoth because of this deed (and the robbery of the Silmarils), and swore to eradicate Morgoth and his minions.

[@littlejune131]

And boy oh boy, just imagine how the real Galadriel would react to THAT -- she despised her uncle more than any other Elf, to the point where he was the sole creature of their kind she refused to show mercy or kindness to. And here we have a case of a caricature of her being reduced to a caricature of him. Her armour even displays star-like designs, which were in canon indicative of Feanor's sigil/house. The more I witness of these writers the more convinced I am they can't be serious. They HAVE to be parodying the content of the books. It just boggles the mind that any person with half a brain who has bothered to read Tolkien would take any of these ideas seriously, and wish to genuinely implement them in their show as proof of the faithfulness and competence of the adaptation.

[@sabr4174]

Holy crap you’re right! They made her into the female Feanor. 😑 Honestly they should have just told his and his sons’ stories. It would have been more fitting to the GoT-esque feel they’re desperately trying to emulate.

[@davidstone-haigh4880]

You missed out the word utterly, before the word vandalised. Otherwise, spot. on! Soz.

[@krajicsek13]

The sword scene was the final nail in the coffin for me Imagine having a dam in real life that could only be open with the weapon of Satan

[@karatos]

that requires a blood sacrifice no less

[@asarishepard8171]

It was like a ps1 cut scene. Thats only how I can describe it

[@kamuireina9868]

The heroes are the villains and the villains are sympathetic. Modern day writing.

[@reek4062]

still better than the prequels

[@marcop5698]

@@reek4062 nah

[@petriew2018]

@@reek4062 somehow, some way..... not, it's not.....

[@anniehopkins8470]

Your assessment is the real issue in regards to the propaganda... on a spiritual level. In the "micro" sense... it's about pushing woke ideology... it's obvious and it sucks so everyone complains yadda yadda. In the "macro" sense... it's about the inversion of good vs. evil... which impacts our culture and our psyche at it's core... and allows for the normalization of the most degenerate of ideologies. Far more damaging than captain Karen the swashbuckler could ever be.

[@towelman8589]

@Meatman419 It probably also likes weiners in or around its mouth

[@JonathanSirico]

If I knew nothing about Tolkien, I would think GuyLadriel was Sauron.

[@LokiTheAnsuz]

That would actually make the show good. But we can't have females be the bad guy, can we?

[@reek4062]

Yes, you know nothing aboot Tolkien

[@shayla106]

@@reek4062 Okay….🤡

[@104thironmike4]

@@reek4062 go straight to jail, do not collect your penis, Reek.

[@randomasgray]

This show is a masterclass in writing. You are suppose to never treat your audience as if they are too stupid to get what you are saying. They have so much faith in their audience's intelligence that they are counting on them to write a better show in their heads!

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Maybe the real idiots were the writers all along...

[@augustinyeovanmengomeobame9652]

@@DiogenesDworkinson There's no maybe, they were, still are idiots and will forever remembered as such

[@randomasgray]

@The Attempt has nothing to do with the culture war and everything to do with bad writing. The amount of information provided throughout a work is one of the most important aspects of writing. Providing too much exposition and your audience will get overwhelmed. Providing too little will leave them lost and confused. This show has always been an example of too little. The other issue is how much the supposed "good" has been just fluff that is used more as a cheap plot device than as a true way to build the world in a meaningful way. Look at each of those little phrases that sound neat until you actually translate them or look at what the author established. They don't do anything other than let the writers force the plot into the direction they want, which is bad writing. If your current idea doesn't work for the established world then you do something else. You don't change the world to fit your needs. So no, none of it has a single thing to do with a culture war and everything to do with good writing as well as a fundamental knowledge and respect for an established work by a previous author. You build off them not change what they spent a literal lifetime developing.

[@erikred8217]

@The Attempt sure it is. compared to the original works it's probably even more laughable. Worse than that Pepsi commercial pretending to understand civil disobedience.

[@Dizzy247365plus]

@The Attempt nobody's even thinking about a culture war. This is BY IT'S OWN MERIT, one of the worst things ever written or portrayed on any screen. It is demonstratively terrible and unworthy of any sympathy as it was clearly written by people who did not care one iota about the original author's work, his intent, his world painstakingly crafted, or the legions of fans that supported his work for decades. It actively insults a viewers intelligence and dares you not to laugh at it's incompetence. The price tag for this fiasco only makes it more of a crime that no one has been fired for the end result now airing in the public sphere.

[@maxmagnus3793]

Holy shit I had no idea they made Galadriel this vile. I remember the Discworld novel "Men at Arms". In that book the point at the end is that villains and bad people love to torture, gloat and monologue before killing someone. On the other hand, a good man who has to kill a villain will quickly get it over with. Put the bad guy out of his misery, don't give them the chance to turn the table, do it efficiently so you can get back to doing good elsewhere. Why would they make Galadriel say this. Do they think she needs to be an antihero to be relatable? If so they have gone way too far on the sliding scale. This guy is a victim of Sauron. What if Sauron had taken her brother Finrod and mind-f***ed him into becoming like Adar?

[@Nemo-Nihil]

That's not Galadriel. Even Boromir, who you could tell was slowly falling under the influence of the Ring, she was kind and compassionate too. Told him to hold onto hope that Gondor will one day rise again.

[@alexanderzack3720]

boromir withstood the ring longer than isildur did.... and his blood isn´t as pure as isildur´s was, the strength of men was already diminished let that one sink in

[@gavinjenkins899]

Lol if Galadriel turned out to be Sauron's disguise all along, this actually would be a masterclass in writing, I'd forgive everything.

[@jacobdill4499]

@@gavinjenkins899 don't give them ideas.

[@artugert]

@@alexanderzack3720 Did he though? I think he was plotting to take it since the Council of Elrond. He was just waiting for the right moment. He thought destroying the Ring was a stupid idea. His brother Faramir, though, had a chance to take it, and wanted nothing to do with it.

[@Haxerous]

Elendil: It is super hard to fight against an Orc. You need special lessons from le Elf Warrior lady. Meanwhile Bronwyn, a normal human whose day job is collecting herbs can perfectly parry, then recover faster and counter attack an Orc and manage to kill it in one blow without drawing attention. I guess she knows how to "use her feet" properly eh?

[@blazichaos7181]

The real thing fucking with me is not only do they basically have random peasants fight and kill *ORCS* , but then the godamn *ELVES* (or at least those with a twig and berries if you catch my drift) like the fantasy token in this episode are actually pretty meh to shit and need help from the strong women. Seriously im still reeling over the fact that apparently an ELITE team of elves couldn't do anything to a godamn troll, but the Karen elf is able to do it basically single-handily. The show is just so godamn inconsistent.

[@kwonj126]

I still can't get over the giant gaps in the armor only covered by cloth with a scale mail pattern print on it

[@matthewmosier8439]

Another KZbinr pointed out that the scale mail actually blows around in the breeze, meaning (to me) that it's very likely 3D printed plastic scales

[@BURNALUCARD]

@@matthewmosier8439 1 BILLION dollars btw. What a joke. Blech.

[@matthewmosier8439]

@@BURNALUCARD Oh, I don't think they spent a billion dollars on it. That joke about it being money laundering? After the latest episodes I'm believing something like that. The actors get a total of maybe $100,000 of each episode's money. Out of $60,000,000. There's no way that they spent a million dollars per minute on each episode. My working theory is that they didn't care about LoTR, probably even disliked it for building up the West.. they buy the rights, hand the show off to a couple of guys with little experience who they figure will botch it, talk a lot about the billion dollars spent, take a bunch of it and then have the guys make a show that they hope is just quality enough to avoid an investigation.

[@MrDUneven]

It's like they took that Galadriel's speech to Frodo where she says if she took the one ring she would use it and become terrible and beautiful and they thought it must be because she is secretly dark, not because good intentions can lead to tyranny and darkness.

[@KingBarnaDuke]

That..... Is probably EXACTLY what they thought. 👍

[@balazsvarga1823]

They propably thought "oh edgy boss, step on me" and made the soy face.

[@tsnophaljakarax9963]

@@balazsvarga1823 Ew...but probably true XD

[@theredheadwiththread1275]

I said the same! It's as if all they had for reference for her as a character was when she was tempted by the power of the One Ring and believed that that was her true character.

[@KororaPenguin]

Tolkien wrote that "Gandalf as Ring Lord would have been far worse than Sauron" precisely BECAUSE the Ring would have corrupted his good intentions.

[@dylannorthrup5439]

Completely agree! So much of this episode made no sense at all… Also, Galadriel’s threat to Adar was almost a parody of what Morgoth did to Húrin - imprison him, doom his family, be forced to watch them live and die horribly, and then finally be allowed to die himself with the knowledge that his line has ended. Cruelty to the max… and she is supposed to be the good guy? Obviously Gil-Galad knew what he was doing by banishing her and her followers to the Undying Lands - he must have known that after 200 years searching for Sauron, if she didn’t find him soon, she’d straight up become him. Wait… hahaha… wouldn’t that be hilarious? Sneering “Galadriel” has been Sauron all along… the real Galadriel is strung up in a hidden stronghold somewhere watching all this nonsense through a Palantir or some other magic. That would almost redeem them for her terrible characterization.

[@tsnophaljakarax9963]

Honestly...that twist would be amazing. Halbrand this whole time would've been the best red herring and Galadriel was Sauron the whole time.

[@avonacolyte]

Even that wouldn't save it because it would make no sense in light of her actions, unless she was somehow Sauron without knowing it. It would be a valiant effort though, and the only thing which could salvage a few shreds of dignity for the showrunners.

[@pamelajessup7931]

-“Galadriel” has been Sauron all along- This would be epic and frankly the only way to save the show at this point...

[@104thironmike4]

@@pamelajessup7931 Not really, because of the setup. As mentioned above in a comment, she could only be Sauron without knowing to be Sauron by now, and any twist you put in there, would feel so contrived, such a rabbit out of the hat trick, such a deus ex machina (think of where the real Galadriel must be then), that it would have to trump all the contrived stupid shit they did so far tenfold and likely turn away the last faithful fan of this stupid show left. Unfortunately, the show, imo, is simply unredeemable by now, no matter how many rabbits they pull out of the hat.

[@pamelajessup7931]

@@104thironmike4 "and any twist you put in there, would feel so contrived" Then again contrived is the one word summation of this show. Or maybe it's disrespectful. Actually there's quite a few!

[@JamesMC04]

Tolkien paid attention to - distances between places - where the moon was in the sky on different dates - heights of mountains - whether mountains were snow-capped If genius is "an infinite capacity for taking pains", then he was a genius.

[@SoldierSpiderx]

Getting more and more convinced that the plan is to end the show with a woman cutting the ring from Sauron's hand and Isildur taking the credit for it and imagine the writers actually loved the source material. It could have been such an amazing show.

[@andrewbyrne2173]

You just showed more imagination than they did.

[@SoldierSpiderx]

@@andrewbyrne2173 fact this show could been so good if the writers actually care about the lord and the character

[@reek4062]

you know little aboot the books

[@reek4062]

@@SoldierSpiderx ''care aboot the lore'' - talking point commonly used by incels. Edit: most incels don't like to be reminded of what they are, so they'll always take the bait.

[@andrewbyrne2173]

@@SoldierSpiderx could have been being the operative phrase. I suspect even if they respected the lore and characters, we would have still gotten something bad, given all the other stupidity pointed out by this video.

[@objectivelyacat3873]

I love how the show ignores any question of qualification for leadership for all of its leader characters.

[@reek4062]

So? I thought you Jackson fans liked stupid war tactics

[@objectivelyacat3873]

@@reek4062 I like how you assume I'm a Jackson fan.

[@petriew2018]

@@reek4062 i can't think of a more hilarious self-own than trying to belittle people for being Jackson fans.... it's only the best film trilogy ever made.... what losers the vast majority of the living human population must be....

[@jasongibbs3713]

They have vaginas and are incompetent. That's all that's needed, apparently

[@t2av159]

He's objectively a cat , you troll

[@shehassee]

This is a master class of writing…how not to write.

[@reek4062]

still better than the Star Wars prequels

[@LoliLikesPedobear]

@@reek4062 nope. Hobbit is really flawed and unnecessarily expanded, but casting at least is not offensive to lore, female dwarf has beard, elves look elven, Galadriel is not Karen, dialogue is not endless cringe and fights are at least bright

[@Sajuuk]

@@reek4062 Ask Uncle Bezos for reassignment because your trolling for Amazon is weak. Like Russian army. Slava Lord of the Rings, orc.

[@reek4062]

@@LoliLikesPedobear keep shilling for Jackson

[@reek4062]

@@Sajuuk I'd love to be an orc and r@pe some elvish woman.

[@MichelleBln]

Galadriel reminds of Cersei. And you know what’s even more shocking? Cersei is a far more likable character because she had at least some redeeming qualities. Honestly I’m impressed. How can you mess up this bad?!

[@greenivy713]

I said the same to my boyfriend after this episode. Forcing you to witness your children's death is soo Cersei. But even she had her motherly love that redeemed her. Galadriel has nothing so far...

[@321AlterSchwede]

Cersei Lennister was portrayed as cruel and arrogant women. But she had a lot of qualities. Caring for power and for her family. Beeing wise and playing powergames coldly, what can help as long you have som good intentions. She ended as dictator, but i always had some sympathys for this character. Galadriel is more a psychotic monster without doubt, just hacking and slashing trough anyone and not giving a cent about waht other people think of her.

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

Bronwyn's plot armour is so strong that, even though when she is shot she is clearly hit by two arrows, when they come to treat her wounds she has only been pierced by one arrow - her plot armour retroactively deleted the other arrow from existence it seems...

[@baconghoti]

Add to the fact that that much blood in a shoulder wound means a holed artery. Just a little issue with how it was treated. Did these chucklenuts consult with nobody of any expertise.

[@amarieoflothlorien]

they removed the arrow and she bleeding out bit time, yet a hour later, time to go shopping again LOL!!!

[@Laarye]

14:45, They actually shot her TWICE. It looked like somewhere in the leg, but she reacts to a second shot. It disappears when she is picked up and is never addressed.

[@andrewbyrne2173]

If you're going to shoot someone twice, it should be one in the chest, and one in the head.

[@TheNotoriousNemo]

I said "good" when they shot her. jeez this show sucks

[@compostsmurf5519]

there's so many of these kinda examples throughout every episode, a quality of entertainment that makes you question humanity sometimes

[@3217491]

kind of like how the charge into the "village" (3 houses and a tavern?...) was also badly shot and put together, they go from already into the village to outside of the village to midway on the bridge to a new charge on the bridge (also, why in the fuck would you charge via the tiny little bridge, a cav charge doesnt do alot of they have to come in 1 by 1. (also my problem with the orcs at the start of the episode.)

[@charlesstanford1310]

1 + 1 = 2? What are you, some kind of racist?

[@JonasGrumby-OO]

They need to end this train wreck by shellling out more big $ and have Cate Blanchett look up from her seeing basin and say: "Damn, I was a psycho when I was younger, wasn’t I?"

[@LBrobie]

😅🤣😂

[@TheMeta141]

no just have her in bed with Celeborn smoking some mushrooms Pippin and Merry had and go "i think that's enough for me"

[@sigmacademy]

They're probably setting up the "Dark Queen" statement in the LOTR trilogy. :/

[@TRivan-kx2bi]

No, she'll look up and realize that she's been watching the Bizzaro Universe version of herself.

[@mazereon]

Did you notice the orcs didn't mind fighting in the mid-morning sun vs the Numenoreans?

[@Syaniiti]

Sunlight is only a problem when the show wants it to be so their dead main characters survive.

[@JulianGentry]

Adar is the perfect character for a heart-wrenching redemption arc. Oh well

[@greenivy713]

I would so love to see that :/ Instead we have to cling to a feeble hope of Galadriel getting one...

[@deen7530]

I wish Adar was in a way better series :/ I hate it when bad shows have one character with a ton of potential but they just go to waste

[@richardneufeld545]

I'm rooting for Adar, the most likable character so far

[@gyderian9435]

Aaand he's gone 🤣

[@richardneufeld545]

@@gyderian9435 and, he's back for Season 2. So there's a good character for the very few people that will care about season 2

[@deen7530]

The only way I can think of to fix the show: 1. Cut out everyone but Adar, and make the show about his life and his quest to help the orcs. 2. Rename the show, cut off all association with Lord of the Rings, and ignore everything that happened in the first season. 3. Get better writers.

[@a..m9459]

ever since I've learned that the stones cannot float I'm not same person , reality hit me hard

[@Syaniiti]

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but you can make stone float.

[@a..m9459]

@@Syaniiti Don't...don't give me hope

[@hatuletoh]

Yes, stones could float, if only they weren't so insistent on looking down all the time. One glance up and stones could bobbing like corks.

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

​@@a..m9459 Hope Floats, too

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Yes, but why? Why do they sink? And what about potatoes? Where do their eyes look? We must weigh a duck!

[@Galgus2000]

It's like the dead opposite of Gandalf's profound line on mercy and being wary of dealing out judgement in death, and the whole conclusion of the world being saved by mercy given to a wretch.

[@kylekillgannon]

@@GeraltofRivia22 it's almost like the writers never lived in a world that had to deal with war and the consequences of pursuing violence.

[@user-lx7bk5xk6r]

When I heard this show was coming out I literally told my friends and family "I have a feeling it will be a scatter brained cluster fck because they will hire over confident dumb wannabe writers" writing is really becoming a thing of the past. It's just cgi and one liners now

[@joesouthwell4080]

I think this is what happens with a committee of writers when no one is allowed to criticize anyone.

[@jedishredder8541]

“When the Grey Hair is dead, Magua will eat his heart. Before he dies, Magua will put his children under the knife, so the Grey Hair will know his seed is wiped out forever”. -Magua (and now apparently Galadriel)

[@nobodyimportant5140]

JSG: “How did Theo know it was there when we didn’t see Erandir to see where the man hid it?” CriticalDrinker: “Don’t know!”

[@kirkkeichinger4534]

How much you want to bet that line "you should look in the mirror" was total improved by the actor.

[@scambammer6102]

correct. the writers had "I'm rubber and you're glue"

[@sailorman1735]

@@scambammer6102 I know you are, but what am i?...

[@MovingBlanketStudio]

"Takes one to know one" was the original line

[@leglo4996]

Oh about billions of dollars 😊

[@thewarriorpainter9159]

This show is turning into a Star Wars holiday special real quick lol

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Hey, come on now... Han Solo playing Santa wasn't this bad, and that was made for five years olds instead of by intellectual ones.

[@starwrecker7524]

Hey! The Holiday Special is a masterpiece compared!

[@NeroLeMorte]

Bruh this aint star wars holiday special it's dragon ball evolutions meets the last airbender levels bad.

[@starwrecker7524]

@@NeroLeMorte You are talking about the horrible live action Last Airbender, I very much presume?

[@NeroLeMorte]

@@starwrecker7524 yes the live action last airbender by m night.

[@IronDragon-2143]

Seriously is it a coincidence that SJW and Feminist characters in stories always turn out to be the real villains?

[@RoninDave]

Which says a lot about their writers

[@darianstarfrog]

@@RoninDave bingo

[@gullyfeather4330]

Nah, it's bad writing that is the real villain. There's plenty of feminist characters who are great. Think Mulan, Princess Leia, Eowyn in LOTR. Hermione in Harry Potter is an 'SJW' and is nowhere near being a villain.

[@IronDragon-2143]

@@gullyfeather4330 I wouldn't consider any of those female characters Feminists. I've noticed none of them are whining about the Gender Pay Gap or talking on and on about their Patriarchy conspiracy theory.

[@gullyfeather4330]

@@IronDragon-2143 but I mean, does Galadriel or anyone in the RoP talk about the gender pay gap or patriarchy either? I was assuming that's who you were talking about

[@thomasdoubting]

-Why did you leave your job at Amazon? -I told them *"Rings"* whould suck.

[@LuckyLuc_YT]

"Coming with the furry of thousand Karen's" Did I really hear that? 😂

[@Grabthar191]

The real test of a Mary Sue character. Surviving being engulfed in a pyroclastic volcanic eruption.

[@dahakaysl2754]

Imagine you create a protagonist we re supposed to root and love but instead we have this attrocity of character and than when the villain of the show calls her for what she is it causes me moan. Yes i legit moaned out loud for like a minute at that interrogation scene. Like oooh yes please keep going. Destroy that bitch. Adar instantly became my favorite character of the show and maan that was so satisfying

[@markmathisen3908]

There are no words for how disappointed I am that Adar and the Orcs didn't kill the whole cast and then live in the Southlands forever. Adar and the Orcs are the ONLY characters I sympathize with and rooted for. 😡

[@RATGODORIGINAL]

Its seriously concerning when writing like this passes. It almost feels like some dude puts these moments in the script to make fun of the movie or show, and the writers dont notice/think its clever to point out such a thing and then "debunk" it.

[@AlejandroRamirez-rx1py]

JSG, you never let me down with the knowledge of Tolkien. Thanks for giving us the knowledge and taking a bullet for the team.

[@MikeDchy25]

@@reek4062 I don't remember him saying that in any video. Are you sure it wasn't just a mistake and he was supposed to say Numenor. Cus that seems a helluva lot more likely than someone that's read Tolkiens work and somehow remembers it that way.

[@eziomorte3380]

@@MikeDchy25 Probably he was supposed to say Numenor but lets shit on the guy cause we don't like his take on the show.

[@danielschoch4881]

@Meatman419 Hey Sauron has standards.

[@diggaaa13]

Hahahaha dude you slayed me! 11:29 "What's the name of your village, Anakin Skywalker? Your enemy has the high ground" , man that tickled me in the right spot! Great video, so much knowledge and passion, so much attention to detail in your critique, good stuff.

[@stanbartsch1984]

Galadriel walking into a pyroclastic flow is my favorite part of this episode. It's a shame her plot armor is thick enough to survive that - probably most of the other villagers will survive as well.

[@104thironmike4]

Hey, common, it is just black dust, all it does is make you look dirty after experiencing it, like blowing into a cold fireplace, duh. 😀

[@GholaTleilaxu]

@@104thironmike4 Black dust from Cartoon Network.

[@stuartmunro2474]

It would've been a hell of a plot twist, to have her exhumed by archeologists an age later.

[@104thironmike4]

@@stuartmunro2474 as cate blanchette lmao, who then immediately says: I dreamed a dark dream of a reality darker than Sauron, and that darkness was me. 😀

[@emorsi]

We talking about Superman powers here... surviving a pyroclastic flow without any form of protection (and in front of it) is a power like Superman has. I think Iron Man would be toast, Peter Parker, toast, Dr. Doom, toast, hm... Thor should survive that I guess. Well... yes Asgardians can survive this maybe... but I am really not sure on this. So... Galadriel is a superelf, and a really mighty one too.

[@spoiler321]

The writing process is to check boxes and make the story fit. Then these writers go with the first idea they get because they don't know where ideas come from and are afraid they won't get another one. Then to make things super easy for them they ignore time and space. This is known as the J.J. Abrams school of writing.

[@reek4062]

JJ sucks. George Lucas sucks too. That has nothing to do with the show.

[@roboatnick6178]

@@reek4062 Aren’t the show runners disciples of J.J. Abrams? I think the comment is about them having learned Abrams’ writing method when they were with his Bad Robot production house.

[@LordWyatt]

@@reek4062 incorrect about George Lucas but you are entitled to your opinion on the man. As for JJ, wElL wHaT aRe StOrIeS bUt MyStErY bOxEs!

[@petriew2018]

@@roboatnick6178 yup, bad Reboot rejects.... ones so low on the totem pole they couldn't even get credit on their work on the star trek movie that ended that film series It's so painfully obvious, too, with the over reliance on mystery and spectacle as a replacement for character development and actual plot. Trick the audience into tuning in for the next installment, because lord knows they don't care about the characters....

[@avonacolyte]

It certainly works for JJ - he's massively successful. It seems to have worked for these clowns, too - they got a billion dollar show as their first writing credit. Makes you sick, doesn't it?

[@theraccinblack6813]

That clip from “Galadriel” actually sounded like Cersei fucking Lannister

[@adamaccountname]

Sauron is now "The thing", when Galadriel was left alone with her brother he absorbed her. When she was on the raft she absorbed Halbrand. It's John Carpenters middle earth

[@audreybailey5139]

I just watched that movie Friday night.

[@qcop4921]

It was Galadriel that singlehandedly turned a repenting Sauron back to dark lord business.

[@drsiege3434]

Plot twist! Galadriel isn't Galadriel. She's Sauron in disguise using her appearance to cause mayhem while the real Galadriel - sweet, gentle soul-is trapped in his lair somewhere. That's why he walks into the volcanic blast. To embrace the fire and return to his true form. That's why the character has been so evil. If only.

[@justlivin2499]

“I kept Hector alive, kept him broken. I will save him for the last. Before he dies, he will know I buried every last one of you.” - Gus Fring (antagonist of BCS) Sound familiar 🤨

[@LoliLikesPedobear]

They steal from competent shows to piece together their incompetent plagiarized fanfiction

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

I hated that show...

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

@@InfernosReaper no, I hated it from the start... More glorified grime. There is nothing beautiful nor pure in the world they envision.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

@@InfernosReaper my point exactly. Chinese said it best: let it rot. There's nothing worth saving left anymore.

[@ultramarinechaplain88]

Fans of rop literally tell people who criticize rop to turn off theyre brain when watching it. That explains alot about the type of fans rop has

[@markmathisen3908]

I'm sure the show is amazing... to these people that don't HAVE a brain to shut off. 😂

[@imnotatroll6301]

does this thing have fans??😱 what a world what a world!!!!

[@leglo4996]

Yes I will turn off my brain before watching, but will I be able to turn my brain back on when in done

[@isabelklingenberg2673]

Ok, it’s totally whacko that I’m now officially rooting for Adar. Dude deserves a break with his poor orc kiddos! And he’s the only remotely cool character in the series. What the heck, Amazon?

[@ziephel-6780]

The so called children of darkness are literally victims, and yet Galadriel treats them like the scum of Middle Earth, not because of what they've done but what they are, which they never had a choice in the matter. She never implies she scorns the actions of the first born, but their corrupted nature. Totally not discrimination and betrayal. Good job Amazon, you just made the race of Elves more hateable than they already are. Adar even points out that she acts no better than how an Uruk acts! This is the literal opposite of diversity.

[@workerdroid290]

They have turned Galadriel into Magua from Last of the Mohicans in this episode. The Huron war leader who wanted to eradicate Monroe’s line, all his children. She is now a murmurous psychopath.

[@amarieoflothlorien]

Perfect Queen for the Harfoots then

[@ryagaru1739]

Galadriel: "What happened to his mother?" Elendil: "She drowned." Galadriel: "THE SEA IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!!"

[@michellemartinez4100]

😂😂😂

[@nigelyorkshiremanwadeley6263]

I dipped out after episode 2 so I'm forever thankful that fine folk like yourself are willing to torment yourselves for our viewing pleasure. People who actually get character and flow and where the line of believability ends.

[@Oversight85]

Me too. Got five minutes in ep 3 and... Nope.

[@HoundMonkey]

I managed to finish episode 3, but that was enough for me. Now I just watch these little breakdowns. That might still be giving the show more attention than it deserves, but JSG is hilarious and I still have a morbid curiosity about what terrible things they have done this week so...

[@Notion3D]

I dunno, I never cared enough to watch an episode, and now I'm becoming bored of even the synopses. I'm starting to really only take interest in the public reception now.

[@Siege513]

WHY DID THEY NEED THE SWORD?!? Your orcs can dig tunnels? Then sap the damn dam. No need for a magical sword key! That would... what? Without the trenches it would... flood the valley..? Was that always its original intention by design? We have an evil sword key that unlocks an evil dam so that... What? SHUT UP. That's what. Master Class Writing indeed.

[@karatos]

Yeah, so it would have either been for agriculture by controlling the flooding in the valley to irrigate it (a strange thing to require a blood sacrifice and a magic sword for) or the tunnels were entirely unneeded and the water would have gone to the volcano anyway. I am still trying to figure out how water flowing down into a cave caused an eruption a mile above. This is not how hydrovolcanism works at all. The best answer I have is it is terrible writing.

[@lunaticfringe8066]

Thanks Guy, it's nice to have someone who really understands Tolkien explain this mess, made by people who obviously don't.

[@andrewbyrne2173]

Even just common sense points out problems.

[@seekingmycreator6645]

This is a master class on how to intentionally do everything wrong in a tv show.

[@Nemo-Nihil]

Enemy Orcs: it's over village! I have the high ground! Village: You underestimate the power of my strong woman!

[@aaronhenriquez8664]

Yo. That last line, the Stevie Wonder line…that was fucking brilliant. Continue doing your good work. All true Tolkien fans will continue to appreciate it

[@compostsmurf5519]

I'd love to hear a discussion with him and these hack writers about their choices 😆

[@hellogoodbye4061]

The writers got one thing correct in regards to Galadriel - The C is always right.

[@Wayoutthere]

c*nt?

[@thomasjefferson2676]

C unt!

[@justinstoll4955]

I thought it was stunning and brave of the writers to subvert all our expectations and kill off Galadriel, Isildur, and Elendil, etc, with the volcano eruption.

[@AnnieNakki]

What drove me crazy is this: Think how epic PJ's Helm's Deep was.....thousands of warriors....where this show, with alllllll the money they have just has a little skirmish in a village! Where has all the money gone? And BTW, they'll survive the volcano because of the seeds....

[@Littlebean-t2t]

Man i love Rings of power. It allows for such great entertainment in the form of what went wrong. 10/10.

[@alexisguillen8400]

I want a second season. These episode reviews of yours are some of the best entertaining to come in years.

[@woodrude78]

I've tried my hardest but watching this is hard going, you don't get a 10 min run without some crazy dialogue or rank rotten plot takes you right out the show long enough to "tut" loudly

[@reek4062]

I love it

[@connor1734]

I do it by keeping my finger on the forward key, probably only watched an hour total out of the last six episodes. Honestly, not a very good hour. Thank God I didn't pay to watch it!

[@bille4889]

I watch it to laugh…its so bad.

[@Zeburaman2005]

@@reek4062 We don’t need to hear about your weird fetishes.

[@compostsmurf5519]

I tried watching sober and then again drunk, hoping that I would find it so hilariously bad I might chuckle, but no it only made me angrier.

[@nightmareinblue]

I have people in my life saying Guyladriel's acting is actually good and satisfying. I'm questioning my life choices atm so hard 🤯

[@kielbasamage]

I hope they don’t really mean “I wish I could act like Galadriel”.

[@matwatson7947]

I personally think her ability to act is fine. She's just stuck in a role that doesn't make sense, is back to front and is only allowed to portray certain emotions. After that kind of restriction I doubt even C.B would have been able to play her well.

[@crhu319]

The acting isn't the issue it's the awful writing.

[@Notion3D]

@@crhu319 It's Ok to call out both. Her performances have flopped all over the screen like a wet noodle, on top of terrible writing. Despite what it seems like, you can tell she's been tasked with holding a complex character (showing mainly a brash demeanor but is also supposed to show some moments of peculiarity and inquisitiveness here and there). Her falling flat on this is making the writers look even worse.

[@dusk6159]

@@matwatson7947 Damn, even reading C.B. after these facts is already tough. Thank god she, or any other great actor like her in the movies, didn't have to go through this

[@bleack8701]

She's a proper villain. And people thought we wouldn't get anything interesting from this show

[@lingricen8077]

Remember when Galadriel broke into an Ice Trolls home, smashed down one of the Trolls walls prompting the Ice Troll to exercise his right to defend his home from intruders and so then Galadriel murdered him? Thats our hero.

[@LivingAnachronism]

I literally thought they were going to use the tower to collapse the bridge. The way it was shot in the last episode with that lingering moment on the tower made it look like the tower and the bridge were right next to each other. And since the writers made all this up, it easily could have been.

[@maikbaumann1250]

"the sea is always right!" "what?!" "ye, my wife drowned" "ahhh, makes sense"

[@RyanBrown2K5]

Calling it now: "Galadriel" is going to pull a Reva and realize how wrong her actions have been at the last minute in the last episode, exiling herself to eventually become Galadriel.

[@scambammer6102]

She will become Rand al Thor and move to the WOT series

[@thepewplace1370]

Kinslaying? No problem, these are my people. Being a bitch and killing orcs for pleasure? Ah, yes, time to repent.

[@philroberts8028]

Not Reva, but Wanda. After tormenting 1000s, killing, kidnapping, torturing and abusing she will suddenly repent and be immediately redeemed because, Strong Woman

[@thepewplace1370]

@@philroberts8028 idk dude, I think Wanda is still on a whole different level of terrible character getting a pass because the writers don't know what the fuck they are doing. The new Dr. Strange film might be one of the worst things ever made. Those writers displayed a level of incompetence that will be unchallenged for a long time.

[@philroberts8028]

@@thepewplace1370 Agree Wanda is terrible but Strong Woman is only just getting going and is already set on genocide of an entire species!

[@geraldredlinger8741]

You are my favorite part of each new episode Thank you for making quality well thought out content each week

[@alexdenton6586]

Man I can't wait to see the episode where Galadriel asks Sauron what his preferred pronouns are It's going to be so epic

[@Jitterzz]

Our “hero” is going to keep a guy in chains, torment his children, and then kill him last. So almost exactly what Morgoth did to Hurin. So brave..

[@GodOfPlague]

Nice to see someone with lore knowledge ripping this to shreds.

[@darianstarfrog]

Crazy thing is..you don't even need to use lore, every aspect of the production is shockingly bad! Lol

[@jacquelineking5783]

The tactical stupidity should have been obvious. I know just about shit of medieval warfare and it was instantly apparent that the tactics used were shit. The production team clearly doesn't care because anyone should be able to pick that up.

[@GodOfPlague]

@@darianstarfrog true but it's still nice to get a fan opinion now and then. I've seen plenty of people with varying to no familiarity with Tolkien ripping it apart. It is laughably bad and the embodiment of what's wrong with modern entertainment

[@GodOfPlague]

@@jacquelineking5783 I've studied alot of the three kingdoms Era of Chinese history and the Chinese, military classics including fire and water techniques so that's as close as I get to medieval combat. Everything they could have done wrong they did.

[@richardcahill1234]

Lol. Galadriel acting like Morgoth did with Hurin.

[@Charlie94781]

The village was made of dry wood and thatch so the orcs could have just used some fire arrows

[@nickdarr7328]

You forgot the sun rising behind the numenorean charge coming from the west.

[@DraknalHitdan]

I think my favorite thing to come out of this episode was an edit someone did where they took the end scene of the pyroclastic flow hitting Galadriel and then tacked on the dream sequence from Terminator 2 where Sarah witnesses judgement day and gets vaporized by the nuclear blast. Ah, if only this episode had truly ended that way. Oh well, we can dream!

[@swallace7447]

This sort of writing just makes me think f all those people who think it's "realistic" for super heroes to be monsters that abuse their powers to hurt people. The "if I had powers I would hurt people" types. They were basically mandated to create a super powerful woman to focus the show around and they decided she was a narcissist and a psycopath. Speaks volumes of the writers.

[@TheMeta141]

actually the fact that a woman with all these powers IS a narcissist and psychopath is the real statement

[@darianstarfrog]

@@TheMeta141 lol what? The statement is she's a jerk.. cos she's cool like that!?

[@thepewplace1370]

In their universe, she never grew wary of Feanor and is just channeling his spirit without the talent or back story...

[@TheMeta141]

​@@darianstarfrog that they think that a woman with power would be narcissistic and psychotic, they may not be TRYING to say that. but it's clear that this is what their version of a strong woman is. the fact that they wrote a character like this without realising it is the statement

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Ummm... Have you seen what Marvel makes these days?

[@setzergambel]

This is a modern D&D campaign where everyone ether rolls all 20s or 1s but the dm just saves their gf

[@andrewbyrne2173]

You give it too much credit. The DM doesn't have a girlfriend and is taking it out on the guys for no reason.

[@setzergambel]

@@andrewbyrne2173 I think the dark elfs his gf?

[@GodOfPlague]

R/ Rpghorrorstories

[@andrewbyrne2173]

@@setzergambel nope, she's just a figment of his imagination, caused by a psychotic break.

[@minithin]

When she said my name is Arya stark of winterfell & I’m going home I bawled.

[@Comicsluvr]

LOL 'With the fury of a thousand Karens!'