K2 Triumph and tragedy 1986 full

[@TurdFerguson456]

I can't get enough of these old climbing docs. This one was especially good. I love the raspy audio narration and the dull but beautiful video! 100 more just like this please! Thank you for posting

[@markmnorcal]

The honesty.

[@46metube]

you may not have seen this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gna9q4OLlMitqNE

[@iluvweezies5688]

agreed. my question is why aren't there quality videos like this for more recent expeditions

[@TurdFerguson456]

@@iluvweezies5688 Yeah, there are a bunch of videos of recent expeditions but the problem is they are usually short vlog type videos made by amateur camera operators. I'm not blaming them because why pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for a beautifully shot/directed film when you can buy your own 4k camera & strap it to your helmet & forget about it. Another issue is most of these new vids are from Everest on the overly crowded South Col route which has been shot a million times. Personally I'd love to see professionally shot documentaries on other 8000m Peaks of an expedition whether they succeed or fail.

[@TurdFerguson456]

@@46metube Yes several times. I've literally run out of mountaineering docs to watch. I'm now back on old caving documentaries which are surprisingly amazing. Check out Sid Perou's channel if interested.

[@jgrayjanet]

I just love watching these mountaineering documentaries!

[@teresacorrigan3076]

Me too😀why? Is the question

[@jhughes344]

@@teresacorrigan3076 I would say personally from watching of all these you get the truest sense of life and understanding of mountaineering. Its about the highest success or the lowest lows...pain and gain and life or death these are world class dramas but are real. Also the physical and mental tests make every move or choice critical and important in this also the philosophical and moral ones they face along the way. Its essentially learning material of self whilst being ultimately elusive to the mind and your emotions.

[@BenTrem42]

Rather grizzly and superficial, no?

[@BenTrem42]

@@teresacorrigan3076Bigger question, how you seem not at all moved by the heroic deaths.

[@HushE2AskolE]

Great memories. I reminisce my land for few second that this was before my birth. The environment and nature look very organic that time. Thank you for uploading such rare and untouched mountain that time 1980s.

[@thpelerington1163]

Proud to be related to Jim Curran he was an amazing climber, artist, cameraman and guitarist and may he rest in piece.

[@mortalclown3812]

RIP is right. One of the best at his work. Peace.

[@shaiaheyes2c41]

*peace.

[@saund102]

22:27 that’s def. Joe Tasker but he’s not with Peter Boardman

[@prismpyre7653]

I'm not a mountaineer at all but I just like the psychology of it all and I gotta say- you really should be proud, because it is such a stark contrast, the decency and humanity of everyone we see in this expedition (even if they are suffering from summit fever, they aren't putting others at risk on the way) compared to the stark, stone-cold PSYCHOpathy, lethal indifference and INhumanity that can be observed in the 2006 expeditions where that despicable Dutchman clearly took people's lives to get to the top, let alone not stopping to care for others (and the callousness and machizmo of the Korean and Serbian teams which proved lethal, too). A world apart. It seems today, the sport has a strong attraction to all the worst sorts of people.

[@crocodile1313]

@@prismpyre7653 It seems most of the climbers of the past 20 years are rich people paying for the right to say they climbed these mountains, and the guides making money to show them the way. When money is your means, or your goal, that "lethal indifference" is always near the surface. And, too often unfortunately, those who end up dying with these soul-less millionaires are the local sherpas and porters who are simply tying to feed their families.

[@trudy7311]

2019 and this vid still holds some of the best shots and film of K2. Thank you for posting Larry Bees!!!

[@Oysterfeather]

My all-time favourite mountaineering documentary.

[@davidpeters3857]

💯

[@AnitaHWells]

It was a team effort in the early expedition where the teams goal was to get their strongest person to the top and they called it a win for all. I’m so glad there is an honest record without hype and grandiosity. These are the real heroes of K2. Rip 2023 people have no respect for the mountain’s, it’s all about their personal summit with deadly traffic jam’s costing unnecessary deaths. Thank you for sharing this extraordinary journey.

[@nathankay]

Thanks for posting this. I've been looking for it online for years. Remembered seeing it when I was a kid, and the horrible desperate tragedy of it all.

[@brunodelayti6343]

Great stuff! I have become somehow hooked on these mountaineers' documentaries, specially this sort of nostalgic ones. Thanks for sharing.

[@StandedInUtah]

It is so hard to understand the power the summit holds over climbers. They keep going even as their fellow climbers die around them. Climbing K2 just to climb it when so many are dying is crazy.

[@scarletmacaw]

Like lemmings hurling themselves en masse off of cliffs towards certain death (that’s supposedly a myth though).

[@Dressagevids]

That mountain is a magnet for nutters...great to see this uploaded, many thanks Larry.... and I would recommend Jim Curran's book on the summer of 86

[@layla693]

Yes i have just read it for the second time --- it makes for harrowing reading

[@TheDailyWipeout]

1986 Tragedy: Also read Kurt Diemberger`s Book. He was stuck up there in the death zone for many days and came back down alive.

[@BillSikes.]

Nice mate, ill check it out, whats it called tho?

[@TheTriformationT]

I must be a nutter summit in 1997

[@Dressagevids]

@@BillSikes. He wrote 2 books on K2......K2 Triumph and tragedy on which this doc is based and K2 story of the savage mountain, they're on Amazon and I would recommend either or both, compulsive reading

[@oneactionman]

Just watched this again. Who else has watched it more than once ?

[@rolo5424]

I am just about to watch it again

[@saltymcpepper5777]

Back for my second time.

[@markmnorcal]

Watching a second time now.

[@burnaby604]

Search wonder-everest i shouldn't be alive on youtube

[@Khumbu0609]

This is my first time watching, but I just read Jim Curran's book "K2: Triumph and Tragedy" a second time. It's a gripping account of the events, as is Kurt Diemberger's book "The Endless Knot."

[@duneideannaer5990]

This is brilliant film making. Very tragic but beautiful at the same time

[@dupeaccount1647]

Crazy to think the 1986 film is getting close to as distant to us as the 1938 film is to 1986.

[@SoulDevoured]

I was looking at their birthdays at the start thinking these people would be in their 70s or 80s now if they had lived. People in the prime of life died, a tragedy when this doc was made, but they would be dead or bearing death by age by now. Dunno just struck me with a weird feeling.

[@dupeaccount1647]

@@SoulDevoured Not necessarily. My mom is 74 and HER mom is still alive. Do the math.

[@SoulDevoured]

@@dupeaccount1647 nearing death as in not in the prime of life anymore. most of my family dies in their 50s or 60s. But im well aware lots of people live to their 70s and 80s. Lots of people don't too.

[@SoulDevoured]

@@dupeaccount1647 also grats on having a grandma nearly 100, I presume.

[@dupeaccount1647]

@@SoulDevoured Yeah she'll turn 100 in about 18 months, if she lives that much longer.

[@josearteaga9667]

When he said " I cant wait to leave this place ."

[@aglees2b]

I can't wait to get away from this place now

[@philipford6183]

It's the utter pointlessness of it all that I struggle with. I didn't really know much about the events of 1986 on K2 until seeing this. What I did like about this film was its honesty and its complete lack of sensationalism. RIP to all who lost their lives. I'll never understand why people do it.

[@johnnycash1365]

I'm with you pal!

[@aldonfroelick7392]

I know why. It's the same reason I used to go free diving with sharks. I would seek out signs that said " WARNING: Shark attack area!" Put on my mask and fins and dive right in. If you are not living your life on the edge, you are taking up too much space. We feel most alive when moments from death.

[@macca1626]

@@aldonfroelick7392 some people just want something in life to work towards I guess 🤷‍♂️, if climbing a mountain is their choice then fairs, couldn’t be me😂

[@prevost8686]

@@aldonfroelick7392 It’s called mental illness…

[@bobedwards7455]

Yup! All to walk up a hill essentially...😳🤷‍♂️

[@Lord-Snowflake]

Thank you for the film. K2, I'm at a loss for words. A very dangerous mountain, and must be respected. I know the dream they were chasing, a nearly insurmountable dream. Many of us parish before achieving or realizing our dreams.

[@BarefootBill]

Another excellent team perspective on the tragic 1986 K2 climbing season. The last of the Long Hairs. Thank you for posting this excellent documentary! Don't mind the VHS tape warble and hiss, it gets better as the film progresses.

[@defleppard1258]

Thank you for this comment, I almost stopped watching lol

[@NiSiochainGanSaoirse]

These kids today dont have the first clue of our suffering as children. Rewinding cassette tapes, tracking the vhs, kettles which whistled when boiled. They dont know theyre born today.

[@markmnorcal]

Steven Spielberg makes his current movies look like they were filmed on VHS tapes.

[@mathewmeehan5553]

@@NiSiochainGanSaoirse I still wouldn't swap my childhood of the 1980s 90s to kids today I feel sorry director youth today and all that pressure put on them cos of social media

[@PuffKitty]

@@NiSiochainGanSaoirse not to mention trying to find a pay phone! 😁

[@vbrvideoproductions4643]

RIP JIM CURRAN 1943 - 2016

[@sylviaking8866]

This is the last thing I would want to do in my life. These mountains are so beautiful but I would leave them alone.

[@sylviaking8866]

@gulag master Exactly. I would prefer that.

[@asafaust6774]

Yes. Some things are meant to be respected and admired from a distance. The majestic beauty of these mountains do not require conquering.

[@carl8568]

@@asafaust6774 There is no "conquering" in places like this.. people barely surviving, shuffling up a mountain at a snails pace is certainly not conquering.

[@hermeticxhaote4723]

I would like to fly and float around them in a self contained futuristic bubble.

[@neeneelee1973]

@@hermeticxhaote4723 🙂

[@Yuuphonixx]

Ghosts of K2 is also a great documentary to watch about the 1938, 1939, and 1953 expeditions in which it includes members of those teams (except for 1939).

[@mortalclown3812]

Except for how the filmmakers treated the sherpas in that project.

[@Yuuphonixx]

@@mortalclown3812 I agree. I hated how they were treated. They're the real heroes of the mountains. I was so happy when Nirmal Purja and his team made the first winter ascent of K2. All Nepali, they fixed their own ropes, and Nims did it with no O2 to silence the haters. Not many people will ascend K2 twice like he did.

[@gck9237]

Thanks so much for posting this, what a great piece of mountaineering history!

[@turkyish]

This mountain is a world class serial killer, it’s just horrific trying to climb

[@richardhelliwell1210]

The mountain is not a killer, the people are adrenalin freaks who love to live on the edge again and again until the inevitable happens! Great to watch though!

[@albertozerain1115]

Brilliant, tragic, amazing, thanks!!!!

[@joanneo.6955]

Thank you, so much for sharing this excellent video, @Larry Bees! 🎥 🎞 📽🐝🐝🐝

[@vbrvideoproductions4643]

Thanks for uploading the doco - but man the ads !!!

[@alexandros8361]

Strange. Such a history of betrayals associated with K2. From its first summiting.

[@nyrbsamoht]

30:02 - " polish complete a very bold route" - ill say! the suicidal South Face of K2 (also called the "Polish Line") - never attempted again - both summiters sadly have passed. they were probally 2 of the hardest climbers ever to have existed

[@loicalex]

The Polish Line was the most dangerous for being so avalanche prone, but apparently the West Face is the hardest, only successfully (and attempted) by a juggernaut Russian Team in 2007

[@thecarpetman7687]

@@loicalex all these routes are going to become more and more dangerous with the BBC warming temperatures….it only a mater of time before that entire Sarac falls down

[@miro115]

@@loicalexDon't forget the Japanese Westface-attempt and success 1981!!!

[@bsg111987]

@@thecarpetman7687 Perhaps the Pakistani government should set charges and destroy the serac in order to prevent further loss of life.

[@azrael1982PL]

Not both, but one perished - Tadeusz Piotrowski. Kukuczka managed to descend after summitting. Get your facts right.

[@saund102]

can only imagine how fritz wiessner felt to find the entire mountain stripped. he thought he had six fully equipped camps

[@deanb4799]

Bonnington, Scott, Estcourt, Tasker and Boardman, Messner, Visteurs. THOSE were the BEST expedition years.

[@richardhelliwell1210]

Yep, half of that list are dead though.

[@deanb4799]

@@richardhelliwell1210 oh totally...but those were the glory days. When there were still firsts to conquer.

[@miro115]

Kukuczka and Piotrowskis "Polish Line" was and is today too the Nr. 1 Line of K 2 !!!

@@miro115 west face is apparently, technically the hardest route up, the polish line is heavily prone to avalanche. Not harder but more risky.

[@miro115]

@ OK, the west face is enormously difficult, through Japanese-climbers and Russians well done. But the "Polish Line", very difficult and so much more crazy/risky, you said it too, was never repeated. This don't need (imo) a comment

[@michaelgarrood3030]

The moderator really hit the jackpot with this documentary. He seems extraordinarily well-balanced.

[@conchatabatiste9291]

Love wrapping up in my down comforter blowing the fan on me watching this😊🏔🌨🌬

[@scarletmacaw]

People on death row should be given their choice of execution methods including the climbing of K2.

[@aa.4639]

Haha good one.

[@N0N4M30]

With no oxygen

[@LarryBees]

dirty dozen get to base camp 83% maybe summit cost though !!

[@brandonsavitski]

And what happens when they happen to summit it? Do they get released from prison?

[@carl8568]

Just finished The Endless Knot. Amazing that Willi and Kurt made it down alive, a truly hellish survival scenario 🤕

[@HieMan-g1n]

Kurt made it thanks to Willi and Mrowka while he wasn't any help at all and before that he even abandoned his climbing partner Julie Tullis, running away from his tent leaving her as she begged him for help and had to be rescued by other climbers (which didn't save her life in the end).

[@carl8568]

​@@HieMan-g1n Yeah well rescuing people from 8000m is essentially impossible solo, not to mention when you are completely and utterly fucked. That is the unwritten code of mountaineering, you walk away and save yourself if someone is dying and the risk of the rescue operation is too high.

[@paulgrey8028]

@@HieMan-g1n not sure where you heard that. Julie Tullis had suffered terrible frostbite on her hands, feet and face [that Diemberger denied] Earlier in the climb Diemberger refused to share his tent with other climbers who were caught out in a storm [fellow Austrians no less] who were forced to cram into the Koreans tent. An incredible act of selfishness. After they'd summitted, Diemberger and Tullis' tent was destroyed in a storm. Now that the shoe was on the other foot Diemberger begged the very men whom he'd denied shelter to accommodate them. Diemberger was taken into one tent, Tullis in another. During their second night [IIRC] at high camp Tullis died. Her body was dropped into her damaged tent that became her grave.

[@HieMan-g1n]

@@paulgrey8028 I heard of those and other similar stories and his behavior was certainly not the norm even in those circumstances so I'm surprised he's not considered at least a very controversial figure.

[@mathildewesendonck7225]

Kurt Diemberger wrote several books, one about the 1986 K2 tragedy. I can highly recommend his books, I read them over and over again.

[@niktiktos]

Anna Czerwinska who was there also wrote the book about 1986 k2 but her story much differs from Kurt's in some key points. Truth can be well hidden sometimes.

[@paulgrey8028]

@@niktiktos yes. For one thing Diemberger totally glossed over the fact that he denied shelter to fellow Austrians who'd been caught out in a storm at high camp. An incredibly selfish act. Ironically, after the summit, the tent that he shared with Tullis was destroyed in a storm and the pair were forced to beg for shelter from the very climbers whom he'd denied, who accepted them without rancour. As much as I enjoy reading climbers accounts I'm not really interested in reading Diembergers books.

[@SuperBigblue19]

The one I admire on this ill fated climb was the Polish woman Wolf. She came close but didn't reach the summit yet never quit & died standing on the fixed rope trying to get down the mountain. Her body gave up but she never did.

[@booAHHHH]

Sounds like a romantic story but you really don’t know what happened. Most likely her will caved first that’s usually why people die they give up dude sorry

[@bobbuilder5902]

@@booAHHHH Let people believe what they want. It's not your responsibility to teach them different. Plus it makes you seem insufferable.

[@georgittesingbiel219]

😭

[@booAHHHH]

@@bobbuilder5902 are you not guilty of what you accuse me? Yes, yes you are.

[@andrewg3196]

@@booAHHHH lol okay crypto boy. Go back to your monkey jpgs

[@pammiewalker5841]

Thank you for this wonderful video!

[@trentcruise3084]

Thank you for watching Sweetheart.

[@jonathanmosher72]

A year after this Japanese climbers found Dobro Wolf still attached to the fixed rope hand on the rope standing upright leaning against a wall. Don't tell me that wouldn't be creepy.

[@oneactionman]

@Eva Ivy you accept that b4 you climb, or at least you should to some extent. If i died on everest ide wanna be left were i fell.

[@ForeverLumoz]

@@oneactionman maybe. But they have to try to get the dead down, as much they can. Because the dead bodies can be a risk to the living. They can do a lot of damage to the living further down the mountain. Some years ago they got a few down Mt. Everest.

[@goognamgoognw6637]

@@ForeverLumoz Right, they do decompose despite the cold because of clear sky days with sun radiations especially strong up there. Then it pollutes drinking water for whole regions forever and can cause diseases.

[@oneactionman]

@@ForeverLumoz 90% are left its just difficult at high altitude. Simple as that.

[@tararivera5411]

I don’t know about other people, but where I’m from if you see a dead body being used as a landmark, you turn the fuck around and go home

[@madhatter909]

thank you for this documentary.

[@BenTrem42]

_So very sad._ Thanks for having relayed the story. ^5

[@davidpeters3857]

Fantastic documentary

[@jamesb.9155]

Certainly a fascinating history of the attempts through time. Amazing the two survivors managed to struggled back but no mention of their frostbite toll. I hope they carried on after their recovery. Petrosky losing both crampons, now that was a harsh destiny.

[@m1k119]

Old school mountaineering is hardcore , Love it , people more real , not much bullshit , just straight climbing

[@kathyborthwick6738LakotaEmoji]

When these mountaineers are hired - clothing- foot ware and adequate healthy food should be supplied in addition to their wages!

[@gloriawelch3603]

Isn't it?

[@kiyajane100]

When they said you can’t pick your own porters like the one with the best shoes etc. I thought the same thing. After paying tens of thousands of dollars I would think they could pool money together and buy their porters appropriate shoes, warm clothing and gear.

[@SkandiaAUS]

I believe they do, but they would sell them before the climb to make the cash. That may be different now but guaranteed back then the respect was mutual between porters and climbers, now it's not the case always.

[@meemurthelemur4811]

@Cat Magic agreed! They pay $60-$80k for these expeditions, and Sherpas make $5k. Good money for an impoverished nation, but when you take into account how many trips they need to take to carry all of that gear to each camp it seems pathetically small. The only reason they accept these wages is because without it they can't feed their families. You see interviews where time and again they all say that they have no choice. Climbers take such shameless advantage of them.

[@mathewmeehan5553]

@@meemurthelemur4811 they don't just carry all the stuff, they also risk life and limb to attach and fix ropes for miles,and miles all on their own and then make the long journey back to base camps. Those porters , sherpas are tough people

[@prismpyre7653]

It is such a stark contrast, the decency and humanity of everyone we see in this expedition (even if they are suffering from summit fever, they aren't putting others at risk on the way) compared to the stark, stone-cold PSYCHOpathy, lethal indifference and INhumanity that can be observed in the 2006 expeditions where that despicable Dutchman clearly took people's lives to get to the top, let alone not stopping to care for others (and the callousness and machizmo of the Korean and Serbian teams which proved lethal, too). A world apart. It seems today, the sport has a strong attraction to all the worst sorts of people.

[@Tommy2shoe811]

I’ve been to K2 not to climb but part of a trekking tour it is STAGGERINGLY beautiful there. Of all the mountains I’ve seen in that part of the world K2 does look ominous there’s like an eerie spirit to it or something. It looks incredibly hard to climb I have the utmost respect for anyone crazy enough to try climbing it and it’s in the middle of absolutely nowhere so if something goes wrong you are up sh!t creek without a paddle.

[@thelasthourgetready]

I'm planning to go to base camp to look would love to climb it 🙂

[@miro115]

RIP "Mrowka", your Soul in Heaven

[@wiretamer5710]

A rear electronic soundtrack, that is both dramatic and fits in well to the film's production qualities AND he subject matter.

[@ChrisCoombes]

It sounds like you should treat time above 8000m as though you’re being exposed to nuclear radiation.

[@alexkeohane143]

👍

[@Marcel-Marcel]

19:37 Doug Scott's resemblance with John Lennon is quite striking

[@trentcruise3084]

Marcel. To bad John didn't know Doug he could of used him as a double. Then Chapman Shoots Doug and John is still here with us today.

[@stoneworx09]

the best camp to me , is base camp .

[@LarryBees]

Mammoth hike for most of us

[@bp2352]

Camp Sofa

[@brt-jn7kg]

Mines my living room. I would climb this if it was somewhere in the warmer parts of the world say Turks and Caicos

[@TheDonMagicWon]

Base camp is not exactly safe and it’s an achievement to reach it for most amateur climbers

[@deprime3360]

That is soo cool . I had no idea John Lennon was still alive then and was into mountain climbling.

[@shabirahmed5090]

Mountaineering is actually the war against the great mountains, either you conquer it or the mountain defeat you.

[@LarryBees]

power of nature

[@holyfox94]

Mountaineering isn’t war. Calm down.☮️

[@christinelambourne4139]

no shit

[@Rickwf]

Just a bit dramatic there Shabir, but I like your enthusiasm. They could probably use you in base camp for the morning pep talk.

[@CaptainHaddock-x8u]

It is amazing the kind of power and hold the K2 summit has on so many mountaineers. Even after the numerous disasters and tragedies, a group of new mountaineers is planning an excursion as I pen this comment. This is another form of Russian roulette! It is hard to imagine that as these brave individuals fly into Pakistan to embark on this perilous journey, they are acutely aware that one or two or all of them might not see their loved ones again, and that they might remain on that savage mountain for eternity. Perhaps knowing that one will be rewarded with an eternal beautiful view in the event of death is the hidden secret few of us are aware of. Otherwise this immense attraction to a guaranteed death is very puzzling...something akin to being addicted to fentanyl.

[@paulgrey8028]

They suffer from "It wont happen to me" syndrome.

[@mariumrajah]

Best camp is my bed at home ..

[@melaniewalker5226]

Same lol.

[@easy_nator_gamer8498]

I heard a big problem was they didn't properly wand their route. They had to go back the way they came and it's super easy to get lost and end up on the wrong side of the mountain. Especially if it's snowing hard and visibility is low. They couldn't find the route in the storm, so they stayed put for too long in their tents. If they wanded the route properly, they may have found it easier in the storm and made it down.

[@paulgrey8028]

Ed Viesters covered that very point in his book on K2. Those trapped on the South Col had several chances to descend during breaks in the storm but as you say, because they had not wanded the route to the top of the fixed ropes they feared getting lost due to whiteout conditions. Diemberger actually made a rather strange comment in his written account of the 1986 disaster; when he noticed a pile of unused wands at Camp 3 he mused to himself that it was too late to do anything about it by that point saying "It's not like they'd save anyone from an avalanche" [or words to that effect] an incredibly bizarre comment especially from someone with Diembergers vast high altitude experience.

[@freddiem1963]

These old documentaries are great

[@zztop4996]

Wish someone would remaster this.

[@soo_zee_q]

Sherpas really are the heroes of any expedition as far as I can see from watching dozens of hours of these types of videos. To pit the human spirit against nature is quite the daunting goal.❤

[@pammiewalker5841]

R.I.P to the brave mountaineers who lost their lives on this mountain.

[@HerrStaale]

Thanks for upload.. I had some problems understanding, but that's life

[@veronikakennedy9756]

Every time in an aircraft in those heights I always think of these amazing Sherpas and climbers! Such brave people my prayers are with you xx truly brave

[@HarryFlashmanVC]

Film does a great job of smoothing over the bitter squabbling in the British team caused by Rouse's inexperienced and poor leadership.

[@colleenhoward9590]

I lived next door to Al Pennington his wife and children in Portland, Ore this was and is still so tragic. I'm not sure of the allure to do this? You know you could die on these mountains it's freezing cold and much work needed to get to the top and than back down. I think if your going to do this kind of stuff you need to do it before you bring the other half and children into the picture. They are the real suffers of this they are left and the kids grew up without their dad. I love watching these shows it's all I need to remind myself not to follow

[@McMagpie]

The allure is to prove to yourself that you are capable of doing something that very few can do. Also, if you have never gone mountaineering, it's a hard to put into words the feeling when you conquer a mountain...

[@colleenhoward8331]

@@McMagpie prove that you to could freeze to death or never make it at all and die? What than could you prove to yourself? I know what I can do without risking my life to prove it to myself 🤷. Dying on your family proves what? One thing that you couldn't do it and then they hate you for doing it. Nice job

[@richardhelliwell1210]

@@McMagpie There are many types of bravery. Just going out to work all day to feed your family in a terrible job you cannot stand gets my vote over these self obsessed idiots.

[@McMagpie]

@@colleenhoward8331 if that's your outlook on life then you probably shouldn't drive a vehicle on the roads. You're more likely to die in a car crash than mountaineering. Also, you dont just blindly climb a mountain and hope to make it to the summit. You go through the base camps and acclimate. Then if you feel strong enough to make the summit, you go for it. Otherwise, you dont. And Richard, I agree there are many daily things that people do that can make them brave. But being brave has nothing to do with climbing a mountain.

[@McMagpie]

@Heidi Pastore I literally said " bravery has nothing to do with climbing a mountain.". Its not about % of death in car crashes, it's the fact you can still die while doing anything. I said while mountaineering as well, not just climbing K2. Also, people dream. People want to achieve those dreams. If all you care about is possibly dying from doing something, you're not living. Do you know how dumb that sounds. These people train vigorously to try and achieve their goals. Who are you to put someone down for trying to achieve them? Far beyond selfish.

[@KhanKhan-fk5ut]

Comparing to the latest mountaineering gears In.this video they are hardly equiped with the gadgets Yet some of them made it to the camp five This means k2 decides and allows who can or who can't summit

[@Whosetheworst]

Wot a classic doco, even though Tragedy and Triumph seems a more appropriate title. Some awesome early synth music just to cap it off.

[@goognamgoognw6637]

I'd say Tragedy alone is a more appropriate title.

[@mac1975]

This documentary is simply the best. These documentary’s have inspired me since 1988 to climb. I get asked why I take these risks, but I don’t really have an answer other than ‘I like it’ all the education in the world and still cannot answer that question.

[@analtubegut66]

stop colonizing mountains

[@laurelvanwilligen9787]

As usual, the 'elite' Western climbers treat those who haul their crap up the mountain as little more than pack mules. 'The porters take it all in stride, without complaint and for little more than a bucket of grain.'

[@101intellectual]

absolutely true** amazing accuracy on this one.

[@markmnorcal]

It's just easier to deal with the help.

[@CelticSaint]

Guardian reader Marxist perchance?

[@justinollie3052]

No life is worth a summit

[@sameergardezi]

It was labelled as Savage Mountain by Charlie Houston and he never could make to the summit despite great logistic support and two solid attempts. Julie and Kurt boosted it as our mountain,my mountain and faced tragedy. Lesson is once you come .Respect the mountain. K2 is neither savage nor killer and It do not demand respect.It commands respect.

[@101intellectual]

thanks for sharing this incredible intel! take care.

[@Yuuphonixx]

George Bell was the one who called it the Savage Mountain when news reporters came and asked him about it.

[@ExxylcrothEagle]

I vividly remember buying this book at the LLBean store in Freeport ME when I was 15 back in 1994. I totally lived in that book vocariously. Wasnt some woman named Mrufka? And Renato Casaratto llllll it stimulated my teenage spirit quite deeply

[@cullyx2913]

Outstanding documentary

[@LarryBees]

glad you enjoyed it i didnt make it only a 35 yo old vhs tape of tv as some point !!

[@dimitrisc8749]

very important to document all the efforts!

[@RG-5834]

It’s truly incredible how steep the slopes are on K2. It’s unrelenting, so technically difficult and together with the treacherous weather conditions, the risk of avalanches, rock fall and ice fall, K2 is truly a terrifying prospect for any serious mountaineer. I remember an American climber famously saying “K2 is a Savage mountain that tries to kill you!

[@ogdocvato]

Poor Wanda, her triumph was drowned with tears from losing so many friends on that deadly descent.

[@HieMan-g1n]

Do I understand this correctly? Out of all the memoirs written by the survivors the one that has actually been translated into English is the one written by the one person whose conduct during those events could be described as shameful and cowardly and was criticized by the other survivor?

[@brt-jn7kg]

1985 and 1986 were terrible terrible years for myself and my family. My 22-year-old big brother was killed in an airplane crash and it just seemed like those two years deleted themselves into the ethos. I am no mountain climber as a matter of fact I'm from Central Texas and we barely have hills here. That said I think I understand this the drive to want to climb that mountain for no other reason that it's right there. Has anyone else kind of got the notion that mountain climbing can be as dangerous as heroin?she's a mistress with a fort devil tongue and if you turn your back if you don't keep your eye on her and on the prize just like a rattlesnake she'll strike and leave you on your back gasping for breath fading in and out of lucidity.

[@mathewmeehan5553]

The two don't compare however climbing seems as,addictive as,heroin but the part where you say "keep your eye,on the prize" haven't a clue what you mean there and the two don't compare whatsoever in that regard

[@101intellectual]

@@mathewmeehan5553 geez , i swear these were almost my thoughts EXACTLY** ^^ ha.

[@aa.4639]

It is a high...The body will adapt in these conditions and try to "keep the human alive". It will produce huge amounts of hormones to compensate. This gives a high or a rush.

[@shortstop47]

is the outro music the rains of castermere?!

[@fight4domination]

Now we know where Ramin got his inspiration

[@izzojoseph2]

Pakistani standards or not, the porters get paid shit. I realize it’s about a year’s pay but compared to what we make, we who climb should offer more

[@KhanKhan-fk5ut]

Glad someone noticed this, thank u

[@RJT80]

People should carry their won loads and eliminate your perceived problem entirely. You see the problem in that, right? These Pakistanis will go unemployed or be exploited far worse by their own countrymen. Westerners love to wax poetic about helping people with less but often perpetuate that with our sensibilities.

[@izzojoseph2]

@@RJT80 ~ I agree with everything you said. Also, it’s not just ‘westerners’ that wax poetic and do nothing. It’s also not just westerners that have porters carry their load. A big reason, they can’t. Then there’s also the tents and oxygen and food and all the stuff that gets spread across the mountain. The ‘porters’ are necessary because of time. There just isn’t enough time to get up, set up, acclimate and climb before the window closes to summit. I think it’s good porters are higher Ed. I just think they can get paid a little more.

[@darrenlamb5640]

That was almost 40 years ago don't forget. £5 meant a lot more in 86 that it does now. I know cause I remember how far I could stretch a fiver.

[@darrenlamb5640]

@@RJT80 it would be impossible for a climber to carry everything hes going to need for the next few weeks. Then the trek into k2 is something like 70 km. It's just not possible to do that without help. And if the money they pay was so poor the porters wouldn't do it. Nobody forces them to do it.

[@KidKallum]

Should put some more ads in this video. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@eddy4688]

Never heard of ad blocker?

[@dianamincher6479]

The Abruzzi ridge is no cake walk!

[@Xeitrn]

Just wished for a better audio clarity to sum up this tragic story.

[@user-gz8ys9ky6l]

Like music to my ears love the sound of Jim's voice

[@BooktownBoy]

Powerful stuff right there.

[@janetflier6192]

Every time I watch one of these climbing videos, I wonder why these people put themselves through this misery!

[@McMagpie]

Everytime I see a story on a suicide or drug overdose. I think if they want to feel alive or the biggest high they should climb a mountain.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

Because it's there.

[@MrShanester117]

Narcissism

[@MrShanester117]

@@McMagpie That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in my life

[@shadowbanned4149]

Nice to see a Documentary without the endless Devil horns and the endless 666 fingers and the masonic tongues sticking out or the finger triangles yes back in the day Great /

[@jdinn32]

What documentary has that lol

[@NiSiochainGanSaoirse]

What the hell are you babbling on about you loon

[@dalpaengi]

lol!

[@simonzinc-trumpetharris852]

Aah! But the mountain itself is really a disguised pyramid built by aliens thousands of years ago! Illuminati confirmed! LOL

[@ohoto3896]

The "Rouse Factor" backfired, as it does. We carry on. Feel real bad about those who didn't make it due to weather. What can you do for those Polish climbers and Rene.

[@NASkeywest]

Used too, it was a team effort all about getting one member of the team to the top. Get the strongest climbers up there and the TEAM wins. Today it’s every man for themselves, everyone wants to summit, even if it means no one on the team makes it to summit.

[@janglingjack]

Difference between an organized expedition and a guided group of strangers.

[@jbradshaw4236]

Great to see him climbing at the start...

[@theknowerandtheknown]

You have to have such balls to live in an environment of such constant danger. Reminds me how different we all are but still connected because we share our experinces with less braver people and the world

[@mrp3263]

Watching this makes me appreciate my bed and electric heat.

[@davidkelley9509]

So this is what happened to Mohamed Ali

[@mwg911hk]

😂

[@nathanjedrej792]

Straight up, no respite until camp 4. and once you get to the top, time to go back down. Unlike Everest you don't have back via airlift to the same extent.

[@objectivitycave11]

"the highest men in the world" i dont know about that dude.. says random k2 junkie...wow, what a film

[@markwebster6018]

Very technical climb harder than Everest so they say but not my idea of fun and very pricey

[@crabsrice5600]

Love these 👍

[@rautry7206]

Too many ads the second half. Forced me to abort my push to finish this documentary. I'll try another route to finish .

[@michaelmyers8549]

Just fast forward to the end and then you can rewatch it ad free.

[@justinollie3052]

It’s simple climb as a team and don’t leave your team members , if someone can’t go on for any reason the whole team goes down,the end

[@nataliemeenakshithegreat7780]

I can't get enough

[@dianamincher6479]

Couldn't understand why they didn't carry a walkie talkie, a small light shovel for snow disposal and some functional headlamps?

[@easy_nator_gamer8498]

They actually had all those things. Bad decisions and weather is what did them in. Also willow wands, nobody mentions it but they didn't properly wand their route. They have to go back the way you came, so if it's snowing hard and visibility is low they can't find the route and it's easy to get lost, so they stayed put too long. If they wanded the route properly, they may have found the route easier and made it down.

[@dimitrisc8749]

we need these