Kafmasino One - First Look [Espresso Profiling Machine]

[@someguy9520]

My god, it took me 45 minutes to find this video again. Google search history, page history, YT watch history, YT search history I'm glad i found it again, but it also shows that YT might not be pushing ur channel(tho they should, IMO). Searched for "decent espresso alternative" and similar search terms, but nothing showed up on YT or google. For some reason, it now randomly recommended it on my home page of YT Damn the algorithm

[@EmileeBryant]

Great video bud! Also Haircut?

[@homecafecharlie]

Haha yes, shorter than usual 😜

[@carrscoffee]

Looks like my legato but with no pad.... hiw can i get the pad and software to upgrade my legato?

[@homecafecharlie]

This is a different machine. The Legato is based on the same chassis but different internals

[@smithsmith7808]

Awesome video charlie..finally an affordable alternative for decent spro machines.. good pouring as well didn't know ur good at it.

[@homecafecharlie]

Thank you! I will try to do more videos now that my latte art is much better. The Nurri Leva that is usually on my bar is the best steaming machine ever, so I can do top level stuff if I keep trying

[@718og]

Anyone know of a head to head or comparison between this and a Gaggia Gaggiuino mod?

[@muhamadfaizalias858]

the machine carcass is from gemilai CRM3007g (mainland china espresso brand). which i have at home. that make me very skeptic because the pid is not very good.

[@Kafmasino]

Kafmasino ONE only uses a generic machine housing as we do not have any external funding and we are a small company. To this housing we have added our own components and some known components like the ULKA water pump. By using our own components and our own PCBs we design and develop our own software and firmware. When you produce your own firmware you also have to develop your own PID and that is what we have done! You can visit our youtube channel and you will see the consistency and thermal stability of our machine.

[@muhamadfaizalias858]

@@Kafmasino happy to hear that! been watching your brand since last year.

[@philraz702]

@kafmasino will you be releasing this in the us?

[@RandyLittleStudios]

@@philraz702 they will ship it to you. You just need to get power converter. But their machines probably all have 230v.

[@phillipphan1394]

does the tablet come wiht it for the price?

[@homecafecharlie]

I don't think it comes with the tablet but it does come with a Bluetooth enabled scale

[@KushalJoshiP]

Charlie..... I am obsessed with your channel. You had me hooked with your Timemore 078S Review and I went into the rabbit hole of watching all your other videos. You have earned a new subscriber and great first look at this new unique machine... may need to sell my Gaggia with PID to buy one of these.

[@homecafecharlie]

Thanks so much, this made my day 😁

[@JuanGonzález-f2h1s]

It looks like a machine with many functions and great variety of configuration. brilliant!

[@someguy9520]

Having used a Delonghi Dedica for about 2 years, im starting to look into my first serious machine. Also have an ECP 35.31 with a boiler Was always considering the Sage/Breville Dualboiler for excellent features for the price. But now i think i might be reconsidering. I don't care if it's thermoblock or boiler, as long as its consistent and has good steaming power

[@homecafecharlie]

I mean no thermoblock is gonna have the same steaming power as a machine with a separate steam boiler. Lots of dual boiler options but it's all down to your budget and what you prioritise. If you just want a good espresso, get a Flair 58. If you want great milk steam, get a dual boiler. And if you want a computer pretending to be a coffee machine, get a Kafmasino 🤣

[@MrHarlequin2316]

After their Kickstarter flopped, I thought this was dead. What worried me then - and now tbh - is that this is a comparatively cheap machine that has been modified to support what looks like good software. I believe this is a Hungarian-made AVX DB1, which retails at around the £450 mark. This approach - cheap hardware modified with bolt on bits and with clever software - was tried with the ZPM, which collapsed taking a lot of people’s cash with it, before John from Decent eventually used the idea to create the Decent, having recognised the cheap base approach wouldn’t work. James Hoffmann did an interesting video on it. I wish these guys well, but I’d be concerned over the financial strength of a small business, whose machine is not even their own. What happens if AVX go bust or stop providing spares?

[@homecafecharlie]

I saw the Hoff's video on that. Very interesting. I have no idea if Kafmasino will be a success but that's always a risk with a new company. Business is hard, and I wish them all the best because we need more competition in this space, and the software here is good so I have high hopes.

[@Kafmasino]

Kafmasino is formed by two brothers and is an small brand, during our initial Kickstarter we explained how our whole adventure started. Since we don't have any investor behind us we had to contact a factory in China to supply us with the casing of the machine, on this skeleton we have added our components to make Kafmasino ONE what it is, a very advanced machine for the lowest possible cost. The components of the machine come from different manufacturers as in any machine in the market, the thermoblock and the boiler come from one factory and for example the pump comes from another brand that you will surely know ULKA. On our youtube channel you will find videos testing the machine thoroughly and showing that it is a consistent machine among its shots, the thermal stability is very good and we also have videos showing the pressure in different recipes!

[@MrHarlequin2316]

@@Kafmasino don’t get me wrong, I wish you every success, but the fact that you have no corporate investors, backing or funding actually supports one of my concerns. Also, the review by the Wired Gourmet does raise concerns over build quality and consistency, but I accept that may have been a pre-production example. I will be interested to follow your progress and, as I said, I wish you every success but I am afraid that, until I am comfortable that this isn’t another ZPM that will disappear without trace, I won’t be buying one.

[@Kafmasino]

@@MrHarlequin2316 We understand your point of view although it has been almost a year since we started shipping the first pre-sale machines. Comparing us with ZPM is a bit unfair, isn't it? We have fulfilled all our deliveries and we take care of all the machines that our customers bought back in the day by supporting them, maintaining the servers and working on updates. Because we use a case and components from different brands we can support them as they are generic. The most important part which is our PCB with software and firmware made from scratch, and this PCBs we can always produce them without depending on anyone. About the "review" that made the channel you mention we do not have much to talk about because the person who did it, treacherously uploaded the video without telling us "defects" of which he spoke in the video and blocked us from any communication channel. We tried to explain in the comments what it was happening but he blocked us and removed our comments. He only wanted to make an exclusive video(recorded in 1 week because he was in a hurry to go on vacation) without giving us the option to send him another prototype with better finishes. We have uploaded videos to our youtube channel demonstrating the consistency of our machine making 4 coffees in a row and getting the same results, we have also uploaded videos demonstrating the thermal stability and pressure stability.

[@Bigjuergo]

when i open kafamasino app i have just white screen android latest version samsung s22

[@homecafecharlie]

I wouldn't know anything about that, but get in touch with the company I'm sure they can help you

[@novelogram]

Happened to me as well. You have to allow app permissions, location and bluetooth. There is no error message or redirect to settings which is a bug.

[@brindlebeard]

What size is the PF?

[@homecafecharlie]

58mm! Sorry shoulda said

[@brindlebeard]

@@homecafecharlie no problem, thanks for the quick reply.

[@mohelu86]

Do the 80s espresso or Extractamendo dos profiles 👍👍

[@homecafecharlie]

I'll try!

[@Karatektus]

well this machine just got itself rumed out because they listed this video as an independent review. which it is not. as stated in the beginning :/

[@homecafecharlie]

Oh I'll contact them and let them know to list it as an overview 😉

[@michaelkowalski3745]

FYI, the base machine costs like $400, this is major theft lol

[@homecafecharlie]

It adds a TON of functionality to the base machine.

[@michaelkowalski3745]

@@homecafecharlie yea but you can diy the functionality for like $300 aka gagguino. Charging $1400+ for $700 worth is kinda insane.

[@KristianMortensen]

First!

[@greysuit17]

Is this still a thing? The company has gone extremely quiet after their pre-orders. Definitely would be interested in this but the company seems a tad sketchy. Not giving lots of people confidence.

[@Kafmasino]

Hi! We have been working on Kafmasino ONE after delivering the first preorders, we continue uploading content to our main social media. Since we are a small company we dont have a big budget to advertise everywhere but we try to do the best that we can. Thanks for your interest!

[@greysuit17]

No offense here but what social media are you talking about? You haven’t posted on Instagram or youtube or Twitter in almost a year’s time.

[@dudea3378]

@@greysuit17 No offense here but maybe you're checking the wrong accounts? I've never heard of this company so I just looked up their FB and Insta and it looks like they've been posting every month for the last year.

[@JohnsonChiw]

Looks like modded Gemilai CRM3007G

[@3DSTools]

The project is based on that but with a totally different approach

[@Kafmasino]

The factory that produce the coffee machines supply us with the case, buttons and the display of the machine. Thanks to them we can develop an advanced machine with a low price.

[@Bigjuergo]

Good Software bad hardware

[@A266509]

Strongly disagree, user here… the machine is actually quite decent 😂😂😂… and the team behind it is always super helpful

[@TheGroundedCoffee]

That white swirly cup looks very nice! Where did you get it? (btw I'm watching this to see if it'll beat the Gaggiuino 🫣)

[@homecafecharlie]

It's the Bisqit Ceramics one in the description. Lovely cups