I know what Killed my Radiated Tortoise!

[@mikebutkus]

Kenan, love how you bring everyone along for the good and bad; all opportunities to learn and provide better care.

[@klemmie]

So much 👍🏻 for Kenan and this comment

[@Wickedreptiles]

Man sometime stuff just happens. The biggest thing is that your trying to figure out solutions. Good luck bro. I’ll be here for the adventure.

[@coloraturaElise]

Kenan, anyone who has followed you at all knows better than to accuse you of not taking the best care of your animals. We're here because time and time again, you show us the ups and downs and everything you do to make their lives the best they can be, so we know how much you care and how much work you put into these habitats. Love you, man!

[@ThatAnimalChannel]

Yes and no. We all have to learn and sometimes it's the hard way. Hercules and Brutus where both males among females during mating period. A video a few years back showed that they had been aggressive twords each other. It would have been wise to probably house them separately, but at the same time, for years they've been relatively fine together. Any animal owner knows it only takes one time. Especially as a dog owner, I know it only takes one time for a mistake to happen. That's why i don't believe in allowing a dog off a leash or out of a fenced in yard. Just as an example. Otherwise, he is pretty great at what he does!

[@gavinvanvalkenburg8210]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE how it takes one accident and Kenan works to fix the issue and try to provide these animals with the best care and love. So many zoos and pet owners who don’t care as much, would keep the exact same feeding conditions. For the simple reason it would make it easier for themselves and be more convenient. Kenan goes out of his way time and time again to give the best to his animals.

[@IrieRogue]

Agreed entirely 🤘

[@tonya-mariejablonski8804]

I think a great Christmas Present would be take pictures of all your babies and make a calendar to put in their office...Everyone needs a calendar... Kenan, you take really great care of your babies so nobody should accuse you of not doing the right thing.....I just love how much love you show your babies and the education you give us...Love your channel!!!! Hugs!!!!

[@tomtomisek]

Kenan, 40 years of turtle and tortoise keeping has taught me that some just eat weird stuff. I have watched them intentionally eat rocks and mulch. I used to think they ate rocks as some primitive digestive aide, similar to birds, but I don't know. I do know that some develop odd habits or behaviors much like humans do and stick with them. Maybe they're expressing their own uniqueness - who knows.

[@erinlong563]

Thank you so much for sharing with us. My Sulcata baby was picking up little pebbles and shells in the grass when i would take him outside to graze and walk. I had no idea it was happening. He started to look sick. I took him to the vet and they did an ×-ray. There were a lot of little pebbles. We went to the vet weekly for about 2 months. He eventually passed all the pebbles. He was also prescribed critical care. Strudel and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge very much. ❤️🐢

[@sarajackson8159]

One of the customers that shops where I work buys or makes lunch for the entire crew once a month. There are 28 of us! An extra gift for the vet would be great too. Starbucks cards are popular here. You can buy his morning coffee 😊☕️🧋 Your working so hard to remedy what happened to your tortoise is so heart felt. You are truly honoring her memory with your kindness. I am so sorry for your loss. ❤️‍🩹

[@alicecain4851]

I'm so sorry Kenen. You do an amazing job with all of your animals. Keep walking proud! You are caring for a large number of huge tortoises that need to be kept alive and well and not everyone can or will do that job. Thank you.

[@KampKenan]

🙏🤠

[@talltraveler82]

Glad the rest are all alright! Thanks Anne and Dr. Mike! Y'all are awesome 😊

[@freemanslot]

Great idea scanning the rest of your torts. I had guessed impaction in the last video and had considered all of the gravel you have prior to this incident. I lost my chameleon this way. Peace be with you and your radiated.

[@KampKenan]

🙏🤠

[@trishawaddell564]

Having worked in vet clinics for 20+ yrs, the best gift you can give the veterinary staff is to order in a nice lunch for everyone. Seriously!! At Christmas they generally get a lot of treats but a nice meal never happens and you.would be so appreciated! Love your veterinary staff and let them know it!!

[@EmeraldEyes1776]

Well, at least you know what happened so you can remedy the issue. My sister in law is a vet and one of my friends is a vet assistant. They will never complain about getting some new scrubs. My sister only gets hers from Figs. They're really good quality, if a bit pricey.

[@konagirlguppies1374]

I have been a vet tech for 40 years. I can tell you we love to get food at Christmas time!! Cookies are great. Fruit baskets, Simply Edible fruit arrangements, chocolates, cheese and veggie platters, fancy coffees you name it! Or maybe have a lunch from Olive Garden catered in for the whole staff. Yum Yum!

[@RavenRose88]

I love how natural you are in public situations with your camera!

[@uafbound]

Thank you for sharing this. It’s very helpful for the rest of us.

[@Fizzybuzz]

When I volunteer at the animal shelter, they always need towels, bleach, food bowls....ect. You can go to your local Goodwill and pick up any towels and give them to Dr Mike's facility.

[@KampKenan]

Excellent, thanks for this Jess!

[@Sammie-Lou-Miss-UK]

@@KampKenan could u do a big collection drive were us viewers can send u items to do one big donation to them?? If we can’t donate items to give them but to help wit costs in buying those kind of things from charity/second hand shops?? Xxx

[@jebVlogs556]

@@Sammie-Lou-Miss-UK i a second this cause,it will greatly help 😉

[@joewwilliams]

@@Sammie-Lou-Miss-UK you almost certainly have local shelters that could use your help too!

[@lumindoesvideos]

This is a good suggestion. The use of bleach can absolutely wreck towels (burn holes and discolor things if used frequently enough) but it's necessary in that setting.

[@nicoleelliser2910]

Kenan I've used dog kennel trays for years with my tortoises. Its shallow enough for small torts to get into but deep enough to stop any spillage. I also use dough proofing trays for water dishes on my larger torts. I bury them so the tray is flush with the ground. That way it can't be flipped over if the tort steps on the side of the tray. For hatchlings I use bird cage trays because they are super shallow and baby reds and sulcatas can easily walk in an out. Hope this helps and sorry for your loss.

[@jeanetteiacovone1958]

Have you ever tried a concrete birdbath that is flush with the ground? They are about 2 feet round… but mine is really old and is a kidney shape!

[@nicoleelliser2910]

@@jeanetteiacovone1958 No I haven't. I like the trays because their light weight and can be cleaned easily.

[@jeanetteiacovone1958]

@@nicoleelliser2910 yes mine are hard to clean

[@chadlawrence2240]

Kenan you are such a nice person. If everyone was this kind the world would be different.

[@tarahuber203]

I so love that you share the good and bad with us. I truly admire how you find out what happened and you immediately get to work fixing the issue so you can give your animals the best life that they can. Keep doing what you're doing and fight the good fight.

[@floridaLise]

I LOVE that they let you see the exrays. That's really nice.

[@spda242]

Great that you found the reason and had the opportunity to test some of our other friends

[@buster_brownie3921]

Man I love watching your videos. My mornings usually start with you and gmm. On the weekends it's just you! Thank you Kenan please never stop.

[@nicoleelliser2910]

I do the same except I start with GMM.

[@JamesSmith-pt8dy]

Hey .. Kemp K , and everyone else Moniee-Mon, is listening thanks for the info and videos. Keep doing what'cha do best God bless you 🙏 🙌 ❤ 💖 Monica Smith

[@gamingpanther7773]

I really appreciate how you systematically found out problem

[@odran7085]

one of the many reasons i love this channel, no click bait, if it were any other channel they'd tease it out till the very last minute and stuff it full of adds but not kamp kenan.

[@poppitish]

I work at a vet clinic and techs and doctors always appreciate food and gift cards. They both work long hours and often times they either don’t get a lunch or stay past closing.

[@melodeev5487]

You could use the type of large tray that goes underneath a washing machine. It even has a small lip around the edge to keep the food in. They are lightweight so easy to move and they're super easy to clean. That's what my friend does. He has three of them in his outdoor enclosure and he swears by them.

[@IrieRogue]

The trays they put in the trunks of some cars works well also, I use the one from my Jetta :)

[@jdash1779]

People need to relax and not think they know everything cause we know how that ends up. Kenan you know what's up and you do you and I'll be here to support you.

[@leeweyer3140]

I’m so sorry for your loss and I’m glad you know why the poor little guy died. Your on top of it doing a great job!

[@IrieRogue]

Oh my, this is terrible. Impaction is an awful way to go. Asa you said pea gravel I had a hunch you were going to bring that up. It isn't always easy to tell when it is occurring. I remember seeing a comment predicting this precisely and wondering if it were indeed the case (it had already been dead and scavenged rather than killed). I was quick to assume it was a bird of prey, but one thing that didn't make sense is why would it just now occur after years on the Kamp? Thanks for keeping us in the loop, so sorry about your baby Kenan.

[@KampKenan]

🙏Irie🤠

[@TocTocTrax]

I really enjoyed watching your upload!! Keep up the excellent work!! I'm looking forward to another awesome video!! Take care and stay in touch!! 🦋🙏🦋🙏

[@leebegaming4130]

Don’t take the emotion of others to heart, I try not to get upset on the internet because there’s no point. Unnecessary anger and such just make situations worse and unfortunately many don’t share that mindset and like to input their two cents. Good work Kennan and again sorry for your loss, but you got a lot of animals… it happens 🥲

[@alexandrastangl8982]

Dude, so happy you went the extra mile to see what happened to your baby that passed and then take another step to shock the other 3 out! 🙏😇. I really think you gotta start buying mulch in bags, if you can’t get any from wherever it was you went too! Patrons to Kenan, let’s send some money Kenan way so he can start buying mulch, and get it in the enclosures, ASAP! We have to help Kenan prevent anymore casualties! Do you have any garden centers around you that can deliver a load or two of mulch? Let me know! And Kenan, your a great reptile care keeper (Daddy) don’t listen to people and their negative comments…they are the uneducated ones with big mouths. Your awesome and hope to one day meet you! It would be an honor! 🤗👍😊

[@robertnjos3456]

That's so good you found out what happened. I would have done the Same thing. It would have drove me nuts not knowing. Love the show.

[@taeviansworldofreptiles3828]

Really glad you at least found out what the issue is, get that cleaned out and can make sure the others don't have it also!

[@MilosVojar]

Great video! Thanks for sharing and good luck with the Radiated tortoises!

[@KampKenan]

🙏🤠

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

Yes! So glad you figured out the issue. That sweet tortoise's life can help the others have a better time of it, especially thanks to you.

[@michaeldavidsamaniego231]

Good video today very helpful have a good day and poor sad little tortoise

[@KampKenan]

Thanks, you too!

[@serenityriver2701]

Much love as always. You do an amazing job taking care of your animals. ❤️

[@ankhorman]

You should bring one from the other enclosure as well to be sure they aren't eating the gravel. Great videos

[@tonyatippetts2316]

Please consider the possibility that it was cribbing, some animals do strange behaviors when they are bored. It's like horses chewing fences. It's a behavior that serves no purpose, but the animal is bored. Some salt marsh hay or timothy hay in the freezing weather area would curb the "cribbing", but you as the keeper will always know more about your animals than I as a watcher, and you are usually correct about issues. Please don't feel bad about losses, you respond to them and try to stop any issues asap and I feel that anyone else would lose way more than you do. YOU DO A GREAT JOB AS A KEEPER.

[@cynthialbell521]

Hi Kenan Sorry for the loss of one of your tortoise's. Glad that you found out what caused the problem. You are such a loving Tortious's Dad. You have given them such a wonderful life, and they are happy. 🦎🐍🐢♥️Cindy

[@kennahunt2294]

So sorry you lost the tortoise. I'm not a reptile person but love watching your videos. Learning a lot. Dog owners are well aware of Rock-eating critters and getting impacted. Removing possible issues (gravel) is the best option. Looking forward to more educational videos!

[@jamiecaudlereptilecorner5981]

That's good news. Vet technicians and veterinarians are wonderful people and looks like you have some of the best looking after your reptile family

[@soitgoes_1334]

I'm sorry for your loss 😔

[@gailoursler2750]

As for the surface they are walking on, how about topsoil about 2-3 inches thick and then when mulch is available, mulch the soil. I am so sorry you lost one but now you know what to look out for. I really think food trays would be a better surface for them to eat off. That way it eliminates association with those pebbles. I guess these guys are Pavlov’s tortoises, when it comes to food shapes. Ask the Doc what he thinks about this or the guys at the Zoo. I am just a Vet Tech and not familiar with tortoises. I watch a Biologist on KZbin, whom I think you know who takes care of Box turtles in New Jersey.

[@jeanetteiacovone1958]

What’s the channels name…. Would love to shoot over and watch a few and maybe sub!!!

[@tardissulcataandfriends1151]

Sorry for your loss:(

[@sueparras6028]

I had a feeling that it wasn't predation. I already commented that. At least you have the answer and you can do something to help prevent it from happening to another tortoise. You are an awesome parent to your critters and they are fortunate to have you. Praying for the health of the rest of your reptiles and family.

[@graffic13]

Maybe you should build cement feeding bowls/platforms like the Galops have for water... so they have some climbing enrichment and a space where you can feed and monitor for rocks

[@cynthiaparsons9339]

So glad you got answers to what happened!

[@vicaroo001]

In MY opinion, you should get deli sandwiches and some sides for the whole team there (coleslaw, potato salad, macaroni salad) so they can enjoy a nice catered lunch on Kamp Kenan! They can get their own goodwill towels... do something special for the doc and his amazing team of animal caregivers!

[@KampKenan]

👍🤠

[@stephanieochoa3689]

I'm glad you know what exactly happened. Got your rest of the tortoises checked out. Now time to do some adjustments and hopefully improvements.

[@michelerogers5017]

Hi Kenan, living in Australia we are not allowed to have tortoises an animal i love. I really appreciate you sharing and teaching us about the care of tortoises. While I cannot enjoy caring and breeding tortoises here I really enjoy seeing your wonderful torts. I am glad the other radiated tortoises are okay. Thank you.

[@celtzen]

I'm glad it looks to be a one off- and that it wasn't predatory... Seriously having a handy reptile vet is amazing - I am hugely thankful that as a first time reptile parent I was able to find a vet clinic that has two reptile vets not too far from my house.

[@connorrothandler6788]

Happy thanksgiving to everyone

[@KampKenan]

You too!

[@MrJayOkane]

Get the some Kamp Kenan Towels, clothes, or maybe a reptile safe house. For when they get a more aggressive reptile. You're a good dude and look how chill your tortoises were lol.

[@nolas1360]

Would love to see a Discovery Channel type show with you. There are a lot of people that are interested in the same things you are doing at your residential zoo. Learned a lot from watching your channel. Thanks

[@bhutch216]

He tried but the networks want to add the dramatics and over exaggerate things so Kenan walked away.

[@nolas1360]

@@bhutch216 I'm glad he's doing his own thing then. He's very informative and entertaining. One of my favorite KZbinrs.

[@reptilemetaljen]

Thanks for sharing! Glad you have answers and can change up some things 🐢🎉

[@vickymarinou6271]

It would have been nice to see a lateral shot of the first two tortoises as well for comparison

[@stevensanimalworld1128]

Great video!

[@Kwazi1983]

Thank you so much for the update. Good luck with everything. Jxx

[@drewm9491]

Hey Kenan, may I suggest you rent a tiller and break apart the soil and run it thru a screener the throw down some grass seeds. I know it sounds like a lot of work but hey these beautiful animals are worth it.

[@rachaelLbm]

So happy and excited to hear you talk about having children with Kate

[@rioncitylife1917]

Hope the turtle will be ok, Kenan such a good pet owner

[@KampKenan]

🙏🤠

[@travismorton9727]

Great channel, my dude! I wonder, are they consuming the rocks as gastroliths? It's apparently something that a lot of animals do (whether or not they have gizzards) and it might be a sign of indigestion or stomach parasite issue, like you mentioned with the poop.

[@michelegrimmer6480]

If you have a local tree trimmer they create mulch when they cut branches off the logs. You could check to see if they have it. It would not be treated or dyed. Just a thought.

[@adrianbara-popa9960]

A cool Kenan hat would be a nice present for Dr. Mike and perhaps Kamp Kenan animal calendar for Ana with pictures of the animals on your property.

[@artandmorewithrachelnicole]

Keep up the awesome videos 😊

[@georgejones8026]

Thanks for the updates. Enjoy being educated from your videos. I find if I still have questions, I start looking further into things. Regarding the gift, I'm planning on home made cinnamon rolls from a local coffee shop. Did that last year and the whole clinic enjoyed them. 😉

[@Bmxdad40]

A wood chipper might be a good investment 🤔.......with all the tree trimmings and palm frawns you can keep your grounds mulched all year long 👍

[@stonewallpi1]

Interesting video friend. Good to see the other tortoises aren't chomping down on the small pebbles as much. I was thinking of some landscape fabric over the existing soil with a thick layer of mulch on top of it but it wouldn't allow them to dig and might create a mess. Maybe on the inside of the enclosure where the bask and get away from the cold the mulch and fabric would help keep them warmer. Just brainstorming... Who doesn't need a little Metamucil in their diet!

[@robertlukacs1762]

Christmas gift for fun. Toilet coffee mug. I like the golden coffee mug, people always make comments and funny looks when I bring it out.

[@dinnyduong5069]

Your corrective actions are amazing

[@pattycurtis2583]

Just a thought, what about using a heavy weighted lawn roller to pack the stones?

[@ladypeiandtheclown5410]

You could feed them on big pavers like 1mtr squared ones, it’s a nice big flat area and they don’t degrade and go brittle in the sun like plastic bowls and trays.

[@joedailey7090]

How about some sweet Slinky merch for all the docs and assistance! BTW not to be a pain but what if you were to do three or four yards of soil?

[@rustynjarvis]

I'm sorry for your loss, but still this was a very helpful video

[@LavenderLushLuxury]

Wait, So the rocks and stones were the problem? Why do they eat the stones like Crocodiles sometimes do?

[@bobbie-blu]

Great video. Would be interesting to see what Lego looks like with xray too with her shell deformities

[@zenithgreyz3017]

Thats so sad . She had a lot of rocks in her, so totally made sense she thought it was food. I have seen two of my turtles try to eat a rock, and it was obvious they thought it was food for what ever reason. RIP turtle!!

[@1PATSOSUSOX]

Hate that these things happen! So sorry about your tortoise 🐢 😢

[@donaldfishvibes]

Wow, thanks for this insight...

[@pegiegault5931]

Im glad you have such a good vet for all your guys. Can you plant more grasses and weeds so they have a better option for grazing? Of course I don't know what the whole enclosure looks like. But it just seems like a good idea. The radiated are my favs so I'm glad you found out what was happening.

[@SgtOLi40k]

Not all heros wear capes 👏 such an inspiration for use reptile lovers

[@slydogg121]

I agree with the towels, blankets, cleaning supplies and go farther with PPE as well as due to the pandemic shortages still being in effect.

[@patriciabrown3326]

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[@pamelanoirot1427]

Looking at where they are from there are no little rocks where they live maybe. Each tortoise species live in different groin nd maybe that's something to look into on all your tortoises. Check the others where they are from before moving them to the radiated section

[@margomaloney6016]

Lactulose administered orally works great to help tortoises pass pea stone or small gravel.

[@bethmulligan2588]

Do you have some pines on your property...fresh fallen needles make great mulch. If not...ask your local golf course maintenance if you can have a few truck loads!!! So glad stays were good🤞

[@KampKenan]

We have lots of pine needles here👍🤠

[@nataliez.4720]

SPA DAY ! The both are lifting, moving of not just reptiles but other pets. As well as well impurities in the air or touch. This would be I think a awesome gift to give. I know I would love it ! Kenan, YOU are the REAL deal !!! You love ALL your reptiles & it shows daily the care you provide to each & every 2 , 4 & no legged animals! Can not for get the humans too !

[@ErikHederberg]

Rookie here ~~ Doesn't some animals eat gravel/pebbles to help with the digestive system? To "grind" down food in the stomach as it moves around?

[@floridaLise]

Can you guys recommend a species of hay? That hay looks really thin compared to the alfalfa that I offered my tort. He didn't like it. I'd like to try what Kenan uses.

[@joannagarcia1056]

As someone who worked in the veterinary field I can tell you buying lunch one day is always a win. Also for all the hard they do a nice bottle of whiskey or scotch is nice.

[@calvinh.8882]

Sad that you lost one. It might have just been a rock eater. You don't see it often, but I've seen that in many different animals. Over the years I've seen a couple of dogs, a cat, and a bird that died because their stomach was full of rocks. An "old-timer" Veterinarian that I used for many years said he sums it up as the animals being like certain children that are always sticking everything in their mouth. He said he had seen a couple of horses over the years that had done the same thing, and it wasn't like small rocks they were accidentally picking up with their food, They actually watched one of the horses going and getting rocks from the center of a driveway that was nothing but rocks. Either way, I'm glad to see the others were clear.

[@8323152574]

My aunt's great Dane wasn't allowed to have any toys at all cause he swallowed a softball once and 2 tennis balls a few years later

[@staceyroberts3468]

That was really interesting 👌

[@kyleerosee3]

I try and get a thing of towels Everytime im at the thrift store to drop at the shelter on my way home from town. Ive worked in shelters clinics etc. And they always need that stuff. Well.... Wonder if miralax would be good as a laxative type deal ive dosed dogs with it when they ate something and its got virtually no taste. I use it myself sometimes pain meds will do the same as that gravel. Sucks you lost one but hope everything is up from here. Neat to see their insides.

[@Error_404_Account_Deleted]

Have a Christmas BBQ at the Kamp for Dr Mike and staff they can see the place, and get even more jazzed up about helping the animals.

[@rogerrabbit7469]

Are the radiated tortoises not as smart as the redfoots or other tortoises? Because years ago I heard of this problem with another radiated tortoise.

[@devaundavissr1140]

I feel like it was just a one off... but could u possibly find another mulch to put in there

[@hapahound]

one of my leopard tortoises eats small rocks from time to time but poops them out when I soak him. He poops pretty regularly so I'm thinking the rocks are not impacting his gut..