Kane and Lloyd's concerns about Essendon's young players as Dons fade out again - Footy Classified

[@Theo-fp2oe]

First time I'm seeing that footage, and as a Bombers fan, I can honestly say that it only adds to the embarrassment.

[@nonono74]

There is multiple other angles and laverdes hip smacks into his arm that hard that it flings and he punches himself in the temple.

[@neilrogers2231]

😮​@@nonono74

[@geoffreypayne6867]

They had a young tough skilful midfielder...and gave him to Hawthorn for nothing...

[@SonyCamry]

Tough?

[@jj45455]

Can’t understand why Essendon only offered him a 1 year deal.

[@andye3731]

The YT clips are backk!!

[@thefyfeinator9437]

they havent had footy class during the olympics which is why they are now back

[@sleek86]

coz the olympics are done...

[@BNR_248]

Cox was extremely frustrating to watch, but on the flip side, i think its been amplified a little as the ball easily enters Essendons defensive 50 too often. I don't think there'd be that much light on Cox if the ball doesn't always land on our last line of defence. Regardless, he needs to try harder and learn to intercept. Forwards need to learn to kick to advantage and lower their eyes. Stringer had Merrett open, tries to go for goal outside 50 and misses... Merrett in frustration threw his hands in the air

[@bromeotorres6964]

Playing on key forwards his not his thang

[@thefyfeinator9437]

@@BNR_248 hes generally a winger tho apart from that clip

[@BNR_248]

@@thefyfeinator9437 Yeah you're right, not sure why he was playing down back..

[@kyalking1313]

The guy is a wingman or should play as the loose forward he’s no defender and they’re playing him in defence when he hasn’t got a defensive bone in his body he has no idea what he’s doing and he’s actually been pretty good better than Laverde this year I reckon that’s probably not saying much 😂. Need to get an experienced mature age defender from somewhere to help guide them they look lost far to often, and it’s not good enough for a defensive coach is clearly isn’t doing his job and needs to be replaced immediately following the season and hopefully he is I’ve heard Leppitsch is looking at the position definitely get him in and if he doesn’t help, it’s clearly the personnel/players not the coach and I don’t care how much they getting paid if they’re not playing well you may as well trade them because they’re just holding the club back from future success with there lazy half-hearted attempts at defending.

[@slingblade8963]

Was that the only collision Cox had? Maybe he copped something earlier..?

[@tigers456]

If Cox isn't tough enough, he shouldn't play.

[@agmor1]

"Tough enough" It's a matter of engineering and some players have more of a genetic risk. Kane didn't "tough" it out. It's a matter of DNA ... from Graeme or whoever his natural father was.

[@imalwaysright]

Like Kane got in the boxing round and got pulverized by Nathan Brown?

[@tigers456]

@@imalwaysright Yep. Looks like he won’t do that again.

[@benmn330]

Tell that to Scott plenty have tried

[@Rowsy91]

Completely agree with Kane. That is crazy to go down from that as a professional athlete in a tough/physical sport. Do agree with the point that if he shows concussion signs the docs gotta do what they gotta do, but if you are struggling consistently from that level of contact then perhaps should have focused on baseball as a child.

[@imalwaysright]

The same Kane that said in this episode Melbourne failed Steve May for leaving him on the field for 12 minutes ok

[@Hunty49]

If Cox take a bump to the body in a marking contest without getting a concussion, he should retire like Angus Brayshaw and Paddy McCartin. There's more to life than football and your not built for it.

[@FranticMonster11]

GREAT profile pic!

[@effkay3691]

@@imalwaysrightHe got broken ribs. What exactly was Cox’s injury?

[@imalwaysright]

@@effkay3691 I don't know, but Kane is apparently a doctor (as well as being a firefighter) and can diagnose and treat through the screen 🤷‍♂

[@vigour6786]

Had the same thought when I saw him go off, there was no head knock that I saw.

[@gustaaf1892]

No head knock in the air or on landing on the ground. Perhaps there was one earlier in the game and there was a delayed concussion, but it would be hard to put it down to this incident which a tall player would experience plenty of times per game when contesting a mark.

[@tubester4567]

@@gustaaf1892 I thought it must be from an earlier incident.

[@jayfiled]

his arm gets slingshotted back and he punches himself in the face. hah. so the concussion is there, but still, he put himself in that position.

[@effkay3691]

There was no hit anywhere

[@phillipwhite7850]

Cox, Davey, Menzie and Laverde are continually gifted games and they are not good enough to b in the 22 and keep better players out

[@troycassidy6177]

He's not at AFL level, and he gets lost a lot. Cox needs to see out the next season in the 2s. He didn't want to be out there.

[@Les_Grossman80]

Cox wanted out of that game at any cost.

[@ASKWITH100]

100% correct,he is a dud,but we have just extended his contract,what a joke.

[@Les_Grossman80]

@@ASKWITH100 to be expected from our Higher Ups. Parish was another poor signing. At least Calder's signed.

[@ArcangelGamingEntertainment]

I was at the game. Cox should've done better. But everyone should have It isn't brad Scott's fault we kicked 1.9 in the last quarter. Stringer missed 3 directly in front of the stands. Draper missed 2. L

[@Les_Grossman80]

Yeah but Cox quit.

[@ArcangelGamingEntertainment]

@@Les_Grossman80 wasn't defending him. Looked like a lot of players quit each week tbh.

[@Les_Grossman80]

@@ArcangelGamingEntertainment I didn't drink the koolaid and never thought we belonged in the 4. Start of season I thought we'd struggle to make the 8. But the drop off is diabolical considering the opposition. Hell, even when we took on the bottom teams, we got pushed to the brink or beat. Hard to really see where we improved other than putting more pressure on when the ball gets inevitably turned over and mild improvement in the back 6.

[@Littleyeti7]

The ground is surrounded by stands, every shot is directly in front of the stands lol.

[@npd6225]

No one answered the question- “where was the head knock?”

[@imalwaysright]

Kane didn't watch the game (apart from a 5 second clip) but he has all the answers!

[@michaelmansini2307]

Bombers have no heart

[@Luke.777]

Cox has been at Essendon for probably 3 years now and still doesn't know where the weights room is.Offload him.

[@richardbehan8118]

So maybe the fitness and conditioning people should be moved on

[@joshuaformosa587]

No clue how they extended his contract

[@aaronsalmon1376]

Fully agree, but it's a bit hard when incompetent Dodoro is contract manager and to try and justify his substandard picks, he signs them for 6 year deals. Why the f**k did Menzie get an extension a month ago.

[@joshuaformosa587]

I’m feeling a bit anxious about the Caldwell situation we need a gun player like him to stay and bring some grit and hardness to the team

[@slingblade8963]

He's only 22 and has over 50 games to his name. Some 200cm players don't hit their straps till they turn 25.

[@TheLaughingMagpie]

Don’t know if Cox is trying to be an AFL player or a Formula One driver

[@DoggoSquado01]

Kanes right... thats a standard contest and if his body cant handle that, then safety wise for his future etc... then his body isnt made for AFL

[@Littleyeti7]

If it’s concussion, you assume there was a hit before that somewhere. I’d be more concerned that Cox can’t stand up, slips over ALL the time

[@imalwaysright]

how is Kane right. The reason for the loss is that they won all the stats yet didn't capitalize and kicked 9 behinds. Caldwell hack kicking the ball out of the D50, which led to Mac Andrews mark and winning goal is another reason. Not the superficial nuffie hot take about Cox designed to get a reaction.

[@blake4032]

@@imalwaysrightlearn to fken read

[@DoggoSquado01]

@@imalwaysright I am specifically talking about the concussion and nothing else that Kane spoke about. what he said bout the concussion is 100 percent correct However, I fully agree with you that Essendon lost that game of its own boot by kicking 1.9..

[@DoggoSquado01]

@@Littleyeti7 I am pretty sure they looked into that and there wasnt anything before it. Theres a lot more issues at essendon than someone slipping over ha!

[@Les_Grossman80]

Hutchy shut up. Kane is right.

[@imalwaysright]

When did Kane become a doctor? He didn't watch the match either.

[@boundsy88]

This clubs got no hope. Apologies to any who have to tank their coaching record at Essendon. The best coach couldn't pull this club out of the grave.

[@marcuscoe2020]

kaneo is 100% right

[@TheLaughingMagpie]

Nik Cox is a waste of a top 10 pick

[@L3onOfKings]

He ain't a defender, he needs space to be able to run into and attack the ball, not be body on body with opposition forwards. Not entirely his fault.

[@makk0861]

​@@L3onOfKingsyeah tend to agree, he always looks a lot better up the ground, he's kicked 3 goals a couple of times this year. I don't mind if it's us trialling things like we did with Nick Martin through this year. It's not our time yet, I don't buy into the media stuff that we're going nowhere

[@thatgnaralooguy]

@@makk0861 Which team are you watching? We are absolutely going nowhere. Fast. And speaking of Cox... getting your pants pulled down by Sean Darcy in a ground ball contest! His few (seagull) goals simply paper over the cracks. He is not a good footballer, just trade bait.

[@LeighWHeard]

Yes. One could come up with all sorts of words to describe the demise of Essendon's season. But I'll just go with two: dog s***.

[@PeterMoss-w7c]

It's like there's no Weights room at Essendon

[@Sabracad]

What does Dodoro need to do to lose his job?

[@shadowwarrior7218]

Dodo IS the reason why Essendon have been mediocre for 20yrs

[@bradwaghorn8955]

The writing was on the wall with there unconvincing win over West Coast several weeks ago. I was there and they were very very ordinary.

[@capta1nnark546]

Perfect example of 'i dont wanna be out there' lmao i'd offload him on that clip alone

[@williamhennessy9260]

Was there no Sunday footy show episode from the weekend?

[@grimsby2185]

Olympics

[@brendo8044]

Paddy Mc Cartin would get a concussion from a stiff breeze. Nik Cox looks very similar

[@TheMemeMachineMatt]

They're not wrong.

[@jmwhite88]

Laverde and Cox MUST go

[@glenhubbard2465]

How does Dodoro keep getting a pass? We never seem to recruit good players who can also develop into leaders. I know the culture is part of that, but how can we be 2 decades since winning a final and fail to look at how we've recruited? Rewarding mediocrity like that can't be good for the culture either, regardless of whatever else contributes to such an abysmal record.

[@jimmyriddle5246]

Essendon need to play D'Ambrosio. Err, wait a minute

[@domesticmonk5428]

⁠​⁠@@thevomit5851clearly is look at how he’s been playing this season

[@jimmyriddle5246]

@@thevomit5851 I guess you're right. It's much easier playing decent and tough footy at a real club

[@effkay3691]

Let’s just say a lot of Essendon players aren’t Glen Archer types

[@Oli-cc3eh]

What a joke Essendon are they haven’t travelled since round 12 and are still out of finals…

[@paulkyriakopoulos3444]

Bombers also had the easiest DRAW this season 😊

[@totterdell]

Not just from round 12 they been terrible since 2004

[@Oli-cc3eh]

@@totterdell I’m talking about them playing 3 or 4 interstate teams in a row but they’re all in Victoria

[@totterdell]

@@Oli-cc3eh I understand that but still been crap since 2004 lol

[@Oli-cc3eh]

@@totterdell you aren’t wrong at all

[@steveh6054]

When Cox, Perkins and H Jones finished there first year i thought they would develop in solid good players, but they haven't so it either the coaches or their fault.

[@slingblade8963]

Or maybe c19 affected their development as much as everyone else in the world.

[@steveh6054]

@@slingblade8963 Don't know I have not had the c19 virus.

[@terrya8989]

The warning signs should of gone up with Perkins as soon as he said said he didn't want to go interstate. It was too far away from Mummy.

[@slingblade8963]

@@steveh6054 I'm talking about the year off from developing skills and going to the gym.

[@ronbr1000]

Jones was ok. Showed strong improvement

[@jamesgreer207]

We signed him on a new contract as well lmao Joke of a club

[@markwhelan9887]

The maturity is lacking self belief is lacking and I'm not 100% sure they are not rough enough let's be honest this game is not as rough as it once was the speed has improved and that's where most injuries come from. Loydy you know as well as anyone that tough mind set comes with maturity for most only the exception are tough from the get go.

[@MrWhitmen1981]

A big club like Essendon need to break the bank for Harley Reid, he is too good to be flipping burgers at that hungry jacks franchise in Perth. Needs to be playing football on prime time.

[@surfrescue3232]

There will be NO Essendon prime time next year. Altho it is great fun to sit back and watch them on Friday nights on the past few weeks. Keep it up. LMAO. And after the drug cheating, they are not a BIG club.

[@paulkyriakopoulos3444]

Once a big club but nowadays a insignificant football club these days. 😊

[@surfrescue3232]

@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 Yet they still have, by far, the most disgusting fans in the comp.

[@stevelozevski8151]

​@@surfrescue3232their last Friday night game was a month ago

[@stevelozevski8151]

​@@surfrescue3232the most disgusting fans would be Collingwood fans

[@buddysally886]

There’s park footy players tough and better than these clowns

[@jamie8305]

Thats the problem with most clubs these days, they dont even look at those sort of players they just see a bloke who is 6'4 and can run fast and all day. Too bad most of them are scared of their own shadow and have no football ability

[@buddysally886]

@@jamie8305 yep they are only drafting runners , not football ability, it’s why players back in the day were better, but less fit

[@smact1]

Hawthorn seem to tough young players, it’s probably the difference.

[@ronbr1000]

Essendon shat on Hawthorn during season

[@rileyrizfransen8934]

Maybe he got concussed before that marking incident

[@juniorwrx01]

Hand full of games we shoulf have one would make things very different. Melbourne and Richmond went through many years of mediocrity like this before clicking. Maybe it better to play through the pain and grow than throw away players because of the challenge to develop them. Brad Scott did warn us of the years to come in development.

[@1979RayDay]

Kane was right. It was very soft contact

[@1refi]

questioning a concussion is absurdly dumb. regardless different you think he's soft that's just a silly take

[@brendanscully5787]

Its the board...culture is the problem

[@samrobinson6396]

20 first round draft picks on the list and still terrible.. to me that’s a coaching problem, not being able to get the best out of the players

[@adamlouis3725]

essendon were complete failures before the current coach and current crop of players

[@parabellummuthafkr]

Yes Kane again, it’s jobs for mates at Essendon

[@Squirki]

Bloody hell Kane Corns. Have a decent frame-by-frame look at the footage. You have the technology. Even on youtube it's obvious that Laverde's left elbow contacts the right side of Cox's face on the way down. You can't be commenting like that on a player's ability to take knocks to the head. You need to do you research before dumping a bucket load of uninformed crap on any player.

[@Hydrnaught]

There's an entire generation coming through that should just pull the pin & go play soccer.

[@ma3stro681]

A soft generation. Too much soy and video games …

[@noctisgriggs4873]

Brad Scott doesn't look after the young talent

[@MrWhitmen1981]

Maybe they are not good. 👍

[@dwainwilson5080]

It's surprising, usually clowns are good with kids.

[@robreynolds6435]

Nicl Cox needs to remove himself immediately from the list. That is the softest thing ive seen on any field including soccer

[@imalwaysright]

A fireman and now a doctor. Who knew Kane was a jack in so many trades!! He didn't watch the game, Melb v Port was on the same time, but he knows Cox is a whipping boy among Essendon supporters.

[@brendo8044]

Fireman and doctors arent trades

[@williamchristopher5653]

Essendon have been the exact same club every season for the past 15 years. Middle of the road, no progression, no improvement. Just a meh club making up the numbers. It's really getting embarrassing. Time to clean house and complete a proper rebuild

[@AshBhang2010]

I Love our Bombers . . I also think they did very well considering what they have got. . All year we have struggled to nail teams on the scoreboard. . The way we enter our forward zone is wrong. So many entries straight to the key defenders. . I want a tougher style but its hard in the modern game. Its been a tough year for many clubs and one that ive enjoyed . . Im excited with some of our talented players and think we need to go pick up a key Forward and target for our forward entries. . 🔴⚫🔴⚫🔴⚫🔴

[@Les_Grossman80]

We just signed 2MP last season and he's been absolutely garbage. Langer's has been poor. Stringer should have won us the game multiple times. We have forwards. We can't deliver it.

[@chasindigo]

You have scored reasonably well, it is your defence in the last 5 minutes of games that is terrible. That is all training and mindset, not specific skills (except maybe goal kicking 😂)

[@Les_Grossman80]

@@chasindigo it's not the last 5 minutes. They have periods of unanswered goals that crush any momentum nearly 3 out of 4 quarters. Hence the garbage percentage.

[@Littleyeti7]

@@Les_Grossman80Langford hasn’t been poor, he’s just undersized and playing in a team that kicks poorly inside 50. He does pretty well considering.

[@Littleyeti7]

@@Les_Grossman80Carlton is the worst inside 50 kicking side in the league, they have actual contested marking targets and some smalls that get to them.

[@andrewforbes146]

KANE I SO AGREE NO HEAD KNOCK IT WAS ALL FAKE COKS IS WAY TO SOFT FOR AFL

[@markwhelan9887]

He was obviously playing for a free kick plenty of players do it.

[@AlonsoRules]

Essendon are paying for poor draft choices

[@PhilipCullen-u1m]

Brad Scott is a mut coach his record at North was 50% over 10 years its not good enough sorry bombers it will not change

[@surfrescue3232]

Love seeing Lloyd so embarrassed and having to swallow his words from earlier in the season. Where was the criticism of McKay?

[@bromeotorres6964]

They mentioned he's been poor right at the end

[@markashley425]

Biggest squib another Dudoro Gem

[@vigour6786]

Essendon players are some of the goofiest players in the competition. They're jumping up and running around like they won the GF after a goal, falling over to concussions with no head contact and not learning week over week while other teams make efforts in improvements. This was the year that Essendon was supposed to make finals and be a real top 8 team but their drop off from the start of the season to now has got to be one of the worst in recent times.

[@L3onOfKings]

The worst since.... last year, when they did the exact same thing. This is nothing new.

[@vigour6786]

@@L3onOfKings They were top 4 for 9 rounds straight (R9-R17) this year and now are going to miss the top 8 which isn't comparable to where they were last year. Last year they had drop off but not to this extent, their only improvement was how badly they can have a drop off.

[@Vinnie101a]

Another 27 years before they will play in a final.

[@slingblade8963]

Carlton supporters will stop at nothing to feel better about themselves..

[@stevelozevski8151]

They were actually tipped to be bottom for by most of the so called experts

[@anthonylynch4737]

Can't stand Essendon but they made a mistake getting Brad Scott as coach, for he over achieved at North and is an overated Coach big time.

[@effkay3691]

He overachieved at North? To prelims in a row, 5 finals series with a very modest list.

[@anthonylynch4737]

@@effkay3691 From position 6 any coach could have done it..He is to self absorbed to be an AFL coach !

[@effkay3691]

@@anthonylynch4737 When he took over at North in 2009 they were 3rd last and were battered for at least 2-3 years.

[@anthonylynch4737]

@@effkay3691 Losing prelims dosent win you flags, you would have been better of getting Paul Roos.

[@effkay3691]

@@anthonylynch4737 I think most Essendon supporters would take a prelim considering their record over the last 20 years

[@andrewforbes146]

There soft and MENTERLLY GONE

[@houdinistare7095]

At least BZT tried. Hello Ben.

[@houdinistare7095]

Yeah it's the kids fault. ??? Kane and Lloyd _ idea at all.

[@terrya8989]

"Kid" lol.......22 yo, he's a grown man, not 14 !!!!!! Soft!

[@imalwaysright]

@@terrya8989 22 is not a grown, and there are plenty players with his type of frame. Different body. How do you know he wasn't knocked earlier in the game or another collision. Only relying on the 3 seconds Kane shows?

[@chocolatebear333]

Jabba aged 20 years over the break .