Friction welding

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@AmishMicrowave
@AmishMicrowave 6 жыл бұрын
Screw all these haters, this was entertaining to watch. I was also surprised at how smooth the friction welding was deeper in the metal, thank you for showing us that.
@butre.
@butre. 6 жыл бұрын
careful with those champagne colored bolts, they're either zinc dichromate or cadmium plated, both of which when heated make vapors that will kill you quite painfully if inhaled in enough quantity. of the two, cadmium is the more painful death, but zinc dichromate is pretty horrid too.
@nickslade7635
@nickslade7635 6 жыл бұрын
You would have to inhale a very large amount, ive had zink posioning from cutting galvanized pipe unknowingly and it sucks but i wasnt dieing
@butre.
@butre. 6 жыл бұрын
@@nickslade7635 zinc and zinc dichromate are very different beasts.
@butre.
@butre. 6 жыл бұрын
@Mikael you probably would be able to count them if doing it hadn't taken out all your brain cells. zinc dichromate and cadmium platings are whole different things from galvanized metal. if you wouldn't eat a spoonful of arsenic you probably dont want nothing to do with cadmium vapor
@BladeOfDespairr
@BladeOfDespairr 5 жыл бұрын
@@butre. oof sick burn dude
@GeneralKenobiSIYE
@GeneralKenobiSIYE 5 жыл бұрын
@@butre.- I was with you right up to where I read, "you probably dont want nothing to do with..." So close but that was so bad.
@DavidWilliams-mr5nl
@DavidWilliams-mr5nl 5 жыл бұрын
The absolute slop and disregard to detail gave me anxiety....
@thramagen
@thramagen 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like a personal problem
@FLAMMENWERFER
@FLAMMENWERFER 3 жыл бұрын
@Cade Nathanael Stop scamming people.
@FLAMMENWERFER
@FLAMMENWERFER 3 жыл бұрын
@Bruce Kinerson Stop scamming people
@GrimmDesires
@GrimmDesires 6 жыл бұрын
My God man, how has your shop not exploded with how little prep went into this?
@FlemingBarto
@FlemingBarto 6 жыл бұрын
Its impressive how bad EVERYTHING in this video is, it's also impressive how I'll gonna get a heart by the creator
@CommunistSubRex
@CommunistSubRex 4 жыл бұрын
Fleming Barto how is he so chill?
@oscarkofoed534
@oscarkofoed534 4 жыл бұрын
@@CommunistSubRex A lot of creators will do this, usually smaller channels that experience a lot of traffic on one or two videos. They get tons of notifications for comments and just press the heart reaction without reading it. Sort the comments by new, he's heart reacted all 552 comments below this video.
@bigpete4227
@bigpete4227 4 жыл бұрын
You were right.!
@paveetsingh9024
@paveetsingh9024 4 жыл бұрын
It’s impressive how dumb people can exist
@sanb3586
@sanb3586 4 жыл бұрын
How impressive there is cavitie between your ears and still inform able to go through one ear and come out from another without echoing
@armorer1984
@armorer1984 6 жыл бұрын
The lack of surface prep, the Jacobs chuck with the cheese-grade bolts, the stick out, the janky brazed tool. My eyes..... They bleed.......
@Only_Cans_101
@Only_Cans_101 6 жыл бұрын
If he had fun, thats the main thing. I know its cringe, but some peeps dont have heaps of cash
@HulkSmash86
@HulkSmash86 6 жыл бұрын
That chuck is now a Frankenstein chuck!
@stopit3467
@stopit3467 6 жыл бұрын
You can always grind the shit off
@scallen3841
@scallen3841 6 жыл бұрын
So when are you going to show us on your high dollar gear ? You know the proper way
@armorer1984
@armorer1984 6 жыл бұрын
@@scallen3841 You don't have to spend money to do the job right. A quick hit on the grinder or even a file to clean the surface doesn't cost anything. A HSS tool bit is a couple dollars, and holding the bar in a tool holder does not cost a dime. It isn't what your equipment costs, but the methodology in which you use it. Some of the best craftsmen I have known have used what they have by putting a little extra work into doing the job right. I have also seen guys with expensive tooling doing crap work by not devoting the time and workmanship to the job that was required.
@nelupetrescu4696
@nelupetrescu4696 6 жыл бұрын
Sudarea prin frecare ! Ce mișto ! Bravo nene !👍👍👍
@RYTHMICRIOT
@RYTHMICRIOT 4 жыл бұрын
Given the quality of the tooling, he must be making Mercedes engine parts.
@Her0zhima
@Her0zhima 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha damn
@pauldean8638
@pauldean8638 6 жыл бұрын
Friction wielding is usually done opposed rotation(powered both sides until clutched on on one side) if using same size materials then slide a tube and hand tighten drill chuck then minor adjusting to get central
@MrSuperchargeron
@MrSuperchargeron 5 жыл бұрын
Those bolts welded just like the bearings in the headstock! Wow! This is exactly what they designed lathes to do!
@christianclark2763
@christianclark2763 5 жыл бұрын
Not exactly. Lmao
@gooniesmoonies4606
@gooniesmoonies4606 4 жыл бұрын
Very good to know about friction welding. Extremely dangerous machining. Serious accident inevitable. Be safe please!
@nawedakhter9237
@nawedakhter9237 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this project it's help me lot👍
@yaykruser
@yaykruser 4 жыл бұрын
Why does this get so mhch hate? It said friction welding and we got friction welding!
@ronplucksstrings7112
@ronplucksstrings7112 4 жыл бұрын
Generally, you make a video to show the right way to do a machining operation, but I guess there's value to showing the wrong way to do an operation also...only trouble is, how is someone, who doesn't know the difference and is looking for information, supposed to get anything usable out of this?
@mnarsamir3031
@mnarsamir3031 4 жыл бұрын
Heat is generated due to friction
@DriveCarToBar
@DriveCarToBar 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronplucksstrings7112 About the only thing wrong with this, is the fact that he used a ghetto rigged Jacobs chuck on the tailstock. But for demonstrating a proof of concept, I think this is dead on. As long as the pieces you're trying to weld aren't too large, you could find a good used 3-jaw or 4-jaw chuck and mount it on the tailstock and you'd have all you need to spin pieces together. The only difference here is that big inertia friction welding setups usually have a big flywheel that gets spun up and then the motor is disengaged while inertia provides the energy for the weld. But as long as you aren't stressing the motor too much on your lathe, I don't see an issue provided you can hold the parts square.
@stephen5608
@stephen5608 6 жыл бұрын
A very clever idea. I'm liking the 3 bolts to secure the rods into the chuck
@x2jzdave668
@x2jzdave668 6 жыл бұрын
@Crown royal no you get a new one or get it correctly fixed
@retrox684
@retrox684 6 жыл бұрын
Is he going to heart all comments?
@Kj16V
@Kj16V 6 жыл бұрын
Your comment got a heart! XD
@gattonpc
@gattonpc 5 жыл бұрын
He is from India or something.. he don't care about Health.. their polution is over the charts.. so why wasting time on puting mask on when he working with this kinda stuff.. more on that.. ask him if he know what materials is working with.. see if he have a clue at least :))
@gattonpc
@gattonpc 5 жыл бұрын
@con ty Yeah? So.. What's wrong with me?
@gattonpc
@gattonpc 5 жыл бұрын
@con ty something ? OK.. then something is wrong with me.. how about you? Is there "something" wrong with you? Or you don't know it yet?
@christianfigueroa7972
@christianfigueroa7972 5 жыл бұрын
People hating on this when they did not even know what friction welding was...this was just an example nothing fancy...
@МихаилБлинов-ы4о
@МихаилБлинов-ы4о 5 жыл бұрын
Патрон с болтами просто супер слов нет,а главное центрует и зажимает за считаные секунды
@joseantoniogomes9437
@joseantoniogomes9437 4 жыл бұрын
Interessante, eu não sabia que soldava assim, parabéns!!! Vivendo e aprendendo!!!
@irfan1373
@irfan1373 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please show the strength of the weld by bending the rod?
@jamesg744
@jamesg744 6 жыл бұрын
Temper
@j5892000
@j5892000 6 жыл бұрын
It's nothing new it's been around for a while now
@TONOCLAY
@TONOCLAY 6 жыл бұрын
The weld is stronger than a normal weld because it goes completely through the metal instead of only on the outside.
@riven8351
@riven8351 6 жыл бұрын
@SupaTrending Daily isnt that how it would work though? More surface welded together equals stronger hold? Or what does the strength of weld depend on
@jwill9877
@jwill9877 6 жыл бұрын
@@riven8351 no. Not all welds are equal. Molten medal reacts to oxygen. There's nothing protecting that metal from the oxygen in the air like flux or welding gas does. Those welds are very contaminated.
@ncstudio333
@ncstudio333 6 жыл бұрын
I'd have welded that shit 20 times normally by now
@silenceoverbullshit8560
@silenceoverbullshit8560 6 жыл бұрын
But you wouldn't get solid connection all the way to the core like that you would only be welding the surface
@silenceoverbullshit8560
@silenceoverbullshit8560 6 жыл бұрын
Okay yes it is possible but this would be much faster and more efficient than taking the time to grind a bevel and would be just as strong if not stronger if done properly
@oldoldpilgrim1885
@oldoldpilgrim1885 6 жыл бұрын
It's cool how friction welds are made without flux.
@gennadyikuzmin6308
@gennadyikuzmin6308 5 жыл бұрын
Это я видел в 70 годы прошлого века, ноучно-популярном журнале.😊
@gayanrajapaksha2030
@gayanrajapaksha2030 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it up bro..your work is superb
@loadb5985
@loadb5985 6 жыл бұрын
That lathe is terrifying
@sujoyshivde1156
@sujoyshivde1156 4 жыл бұрын
Helped get an idea of what happens in a FRW (Friction Weld). Thanks!
@slsandaofficial
@slsandaofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@whynotanyting
@whynotanyting 6 жыл бұрын
That actually worked. Neat.
@matthewmcewen9274
@matthewmcewen9274 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but I'd never trust a weld like that.
@luclionelmulder
@luclionelmulder 6 жыл бұрын
definitely what an indian engineer should have done .....
@huggywuggy3608
@huggywuggy3608 6 жыл бұрын
Hefty why
@luclionelmulder
@luclionelmulder 6 жыл бұрын
Skum Dum definitely not the way to do it. but i like his effort and i think he can see the joke out of my reaction^^
@gww5385
@gww5385 4 жыл бұрын
I need a new Chuck. Gets new Chuck. Strips jaws on new Chuck.
@zippy545
@zippy545 4 жыл бұрын
"bUt tHaT's wRoNg" Still top friction weld at home vid, and what do these commenters have to show? NOTHING! Keep up the innovative work be safe
@slsandaofficial
@slsandaofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@vadivelubalasundaram9582
@vadivelubalasundaram9582 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work ,and good technology exposure
@2AWD_GARAGE
@2AWD_GARAGE 6 жыл бұрын
Ese método ya lo había visto antes pero esta muy bueno porque para la modificación de las punta de ejes cuando uno adapta un motor de carro se otro tipo tiene que soldar la punta de ejes y los caldan cuando hay que cortarlo también 👍
@Motor-City-Mike
@Motor-City-Mike 5 жыл бұрын
That's got to play hell with the taper adapter in the back side of the drill chuck (yup, that's a junk chuck but the adapter wasn't), main chuck jaws if it spins in the chuck, and the drive clutches and belt in the headstock - I'll stick to Mig welding part together.
@The.church.of.scientology
@The.church.of.scientology 4 жыл бұрын
Commentors: this is horrible, absolutely horrible Creator: *likes comment*
@ajwilson313
@ajwilson313 6 жыл бұрын
Sooo much wrong in this video.
@harry_hands
@harry_hands 6 жыл бұрын
@@ismailtopa3671 The Sachz that are -hairy- Harry agrees.
@obi-wankenobi9871
@obi-wankenobi9871 5 жыл бұрын
Not stupid if it works
@djyoyo0829
@djyoyo0829 5 жыл бұрын
@@obi-wankenobi9871 dont do that
@CA-ev2vf
@CA-ev2vf 4 жыл бұрын
@@djyoyo0829 dont do that
@djyoyo0829
@djyoyo0829 4 жыл бұрын
@@CA-ev2vf this bad idea ,why? Becouse your machines doesn't have enough forging power and big clam jaw power.
@erikrobles5727
@erikrobles5727 6 жыл бұрын
3:45 or u can just go buy all tread
@scottewell9743
@scottewell9743 6 жыл бұрын
Just soooooo glad I have a mig !
@Jazzglenn
@Jazzglenn 4 жыл бұрын
So this is what Uncle Ben said to me when he said "When I and Carl met, we fell in love at first sight!". No wonder I keep hearing powertool noises at night :|
@villiers1
@villiers1 6 жыл бұрын
Nice way of slowly ruining a lathe too
@atlante4368
@atlante4368 6 жыл бұрын
Why? Honest question, total layman here.
@villiers1
@villiers1 6 жыл бұрын
Adriano Pires de Carvalho layman ? And well for starters it’s putting the motor under excessive strain. Strain that would never occur with normal use
@prnrbn6605
@prnrbn6605 4 жыл бұрын
*Hey Myan ! Can I get a heart too*
@ryananthony7115
@ryananthony7115 6 жыл бұрын
"Son howd you mess up my machine?" Friction welding.
@krisjanisk.5019
@krisjanisk.5019 6 жыл бұрын
Just make my day. Heart this comment
@six-pack1332
@six-pack1332 6 жыл бұрын
This "weld" will be very brittle if not heat treated as to normalize the molecules. It's like a 3 step process with precise heating and quenching.
@adolfemmanuelesparas3922
@adolfemmanuelesparas3922 4 жыл бұрын
I like how you improvised your tailstock.. but it's very dangerous.. you should get the tailstock that be locked with a C wrench..
@twizz420
@twizz420 4 жыл бұрын
"hands free" friction welding... No shit. That lathe looks about as nice as the ones we had in high school lol
@shepherd8762
@shepherd8762 6 жыл бұрын
How much vertical force was applied?
@abhishek0o7
@abhishek0o7 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy .. now I got it that why we use engine oils.
@viveks6688
@viveks6688 3 жыл бұрын
Bro from where did you do this...my mtech project is friction wleding of aluminum and steel can u please help me
@shane74brown
@shane74brown 6 жыл бұрын
Well there goes 5 minutes of my life ill never get back.
@atlante4368
@atlante4368 6 жыл бұрын
The lathe is an incredible machine. I wish I could operate one.
@СеняБаратов
@СеняБаратов 5 жыл бұрын
Сварка трением, первый эпизод -да, второй опасный , а вообще класс
@0relaxis0
@0relaxis0 4 жыл бұрын
Cuuld you infrom what speed? :)
@Lukaaaaaaa77
@Lukaaaaaaa77 4 жыл бұрын
He’s still hearting comments after a year
@mackk123
@mackk123 4 жыл бұрын
Look up on images, the *Daily Express Newspaper Headlines March 24, 1933*
@forknspoon5858
@forknspoon5858 3 жыл бұрын
Hey!! Heart this comment and comment back, the haters say you won’t
@henryjohn2218
@henryjohn2218 5 жыл бұрын
thankyou somuch sir make more video like these
@nattsojaqs9822
@nattsojaqs9822 5 жыл бұрын
All the hate... Its pitiful really. If you think this is bad, go over and see how they do in Cuba. That's where *real* skill and talent are shown. Being broke leaves them no choice. You make do with what you have. Put yourselves in their shoes and give this guy a break. Nice vid by the way. It would be nice to get a strength test afterwards.
@deaftodd
@deaftodd 5 жыл бұрын
Very very funny! Just buy a longer solid rod to save the trouble.
@Dumass88
@Dumass88 6 жыл бұрын
more videos like this please!
@ianholmen888
@ianholmen888 5 жыл бұрын
That was pretty sketchy. I have seen friction welding and they applied a lot of pressure, and had both items spinning to do so. Also took maybe 5 seconds.
@muhammadshafiq9336
@muhammadshafiq9336 4 жыл бұрын
Good
@phamtrung4059
@phamtrung4059 5 жыл бұрын
Hay quá 👍🏆👏👏👏🤗
@sajeebkassim1980
@sajeebkassim1980 6 жыл бұрын
Very good background music which is that pls thank you
@tylerpestell
@tylerpestell 6 жыл бұрын
Ditch the music! The sound of the machines is so much better with these type videos.
@NSW
@NSW 6 жыл бұрын
Cool video
@tukangngetest4723
@tukangngetest4723 5 жыл бұрын
That iron bonding very well
@9cahayalastproject535
@9cahayalastproject535 4 жыл бұрын
this is an experiment or have often used it as an iron connector sir. how about the strength of the connection, if we bend it.
@DaveRibber
@DaveRibber 6 жыл бұрын
Why do I watch it at 1 am
@romperstomper9375
@romperstomper9375 6 жыл бұрын
That just seems like a lot of extra danger when my welder is on wheels or if I really feel cheeky I'll forge weld it done and done with out the questionable toolings
@navajyotichetia3211
@navajyotichetia3211 6 жыл бұрын
What is the payoff, the brake shoes of the lathe machine or the value of welding like this
@jjames5928
@jjames5928 5 жыл бұрын
Same thing happens when you dont put Oil in your differential, R.I.P Pinion Bearings
@cristianlarenas9674
@cristianlarenas9674 5 жыл бұрын
Y cómo quedó el mandril al final después de soldar los pernos?
@антонмагарн
@антонмагарн 6 жыл бұрын
Он это делает потому что может. Обычной сваркой ровно и по всему сечению и не большого диаметра Не заваришь здесь еще и прочность сварного шва выше
@viktorstarostin7362
@viktorstarostin7362 6 жыл бұрын
Это тот же сварочный процесс!Токарный только угробишь!Для сварки трением ,и высоким давлением есть спец инструмент!А что касаемо ,,классической" сварки(Tig,Mig-Mag,MMA и т.д.),то при наличии навыков,сваришь металл как надо!
@vincenzobarba938
@vincenzobarba938 5 жыл бұрын
Hi great video.I would like to know wich model of lathe do you have?can you give me a link to see this metal lathe?thanks
@its.kenneth.
@its.kenneth. 6 жыл бұрын
Cool man. keep it up
@nicktorres5540
@nicktorres5540 6 жыл бұрын
I’m watching at 1am too 🤔
@todolist1076
@todolist1076 6 жыл бұрын
Nick Torres consult a physician
@loganrynearson2441
@loganrynearson2441 5 жыл бұрын
How come you decided to edit out the portion where you could see the seam disapear?
@KrystoHartge
@KrystoHartge 6 жыл бұрын
It's OK bro you'll get better at it eventually I hope.
@remonvals3005
@remonvals3005 5 жыл бұрын
Video maker: people! We don't need welding machines anymore! We got this plan right here! Welding machine makers: are we a joke to you?
@jayma2733
@jayma2733 5 жыл бұрын
Remon Vals “Are we a joke to you” is getting old and is overused.
@jayma2733
@jayma2733 5 жыл бұрын
Remon Vals Based on the maturity of your response, I can tell that you are far too unintelligent to bother wasting my time with.
@remonvals3005
@remonvals3005 5 жыл бұрын
@@jayma2733 don't come to teach other ppl then. If you have something to say, don't say it. Keep it to yourself. And yes i am kind of unintelligent, so what? I have whole life to go and learn. You can't deny that!!
@jayma2733
@jayma2733 5 жыл бұрын
Remon Vals You are a very strange person. I am not sure why you’re so upset but you should learn to move on.
@mustafamrc2
@mustafamrc2 3 жыл бұрын
What is the machine speed when working?
@plotwist1066
@plotwist1066 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice!
@slsandaofficial
@slsandaofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@Brunoguedes1640
@Brunoguedes1640 5 жыл бұрын
Fiz meu trabalho de conclusao de curso sobre soldagem de fricção no torno mecânico.. tentei demostrar parâmetros para uma soldagem efetiva
@НастяЗу-о7ы
@НастяЗу-о7ы 6 жыл бұрын
Скинь ссылку ГДЕ берёшь такой СПАЙС
@jmarriottc
@jmarriottc 6 жыл бұрын
I need 6 inches of pipe that won't bare any weight...np fam I got you
@Zummeli
@Zummeli 6 жыл бұрын
6 inches of pipe that can't bare any weight?🤔 Fam I gotchu, might be conidered a bit gay tho
@billyjack8119
@billyjack8119 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that A its a good way to screw up a nice set of jaws. B its hard enough to have a set of 3 jaws accurate enough to turn something and flip it around and have no parting line or runout. C why not buy a piece long enough to start with and take care of the machine.
@Themodernsmith
@Themodernsmith 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the benefit of this coompared to normal welding ? This seems like its kinda of a unorthodox method.
@Yeetin_Boomer_Actual
@Yeetin_Boomer_Actual 6 жыл бұрын
What did they do to the drill? This can't be a strong bond.
@tommywood2135
@tommywood2135 6 жыл бұрын
Aydon Grant it would have to at least be 60000 tensile strength to be any sort of useful weld
@waedi73
@waedi73 5 жыл бұрын
Another helloween movie from the genre : how to make it wrong !
@levijones1874
@levijones1874 6 жыл бұрын
Bunch of liberals on here man. Dude that remind me when I was real little and made a lath out of scraps of woods, bolts, and a old plug in the wall power drill. I made fishing lures with it. This was great wish I had a lath like that. Keep it up!!
@alejandroolano9854
@alejandroolano9854 5 жыл бұрын
I'm here for my 💓!!!!
@jegarmendieta3114
@jegarmendieta3114 5 жыл бұрын
Está ingeniosa la idea pero cambia ese mandril del torno
@manuelirizarry1498
@manuelirizarry1498 5 жыл бұрын
Also this video is about a type of welding called Friction Welding or Inertia Friction Welding. If you look on KZbin the process or system is similar @ the this video. He may not have the right machine but he has 3.1 millions views....
@javierdiaz17
@javierdiaz17 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@robertochaconiii3321
@robertochaconiii3321 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool but where’s the bend test 😂
@crimboz2461
@crimboz2461 6 жыл бұрын
bet he doesnt heart this comments.
@augustosiqueira4687
@augustosiqueira4687 5 жыл бұрын
É claro que os dois ferros vão unir se um com o outro , a fricção fez os derreter fazendo com que os dois vire uma só peça .
@cajamanual6713
@cajamanual6713 4 жыл бұрын
Can I get a heart in covid-19 time?
@tazzy3503
@tazzy3503 6 жыл бұрын
Why are those indish dudes never taking care of their machines
@betterstayout0
@betterstayout0 6 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah i was thinking the same. So scary
@fearcase90
@fearcase90 6 жыл бұрын
Cuz they like to the stars of gore sites lul
@rejuvenatingsoul3498
@rejuvenatingsoul3498 6 жыл бұрын
@@flatsurfaces1913 I bet he knows everything better than you, I would be surprised if you even knew where the Chuck of the lathe is.
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon 6 жыл бұрын
Indian*
@robertspikes1376
@robertspikes1376 5 жыл бұрын
probably like my work mates, good hardworking dudes, but they were taught everything wrong. it's quite frustrating trying to correct someone that has been doing it wrong for longer than I have been on the work force
@kvorubin
@kvorubin 6 жыл бұрын
Посмотрел комменты, ребята уже все сказали что я хотел сказать)
@tannert8361
@tannert8361 6 жыл бұрын
Legend has it if I ask nicely I can get a heart... hey heart I want
@TheJuangiron
@TheJuangiron 6 жыл бұрын
Gracias hay tantas cosas que aprender Que la vida se hace corta Para medio aprender los diferentes oficios y técnicas lástima que ya estoy viejo. Y. Durante mis años jóvenes nunca tuve la oportunidad de aprender nada por estar trabajando para darles de comer a los engendros que me recetaron las famosas Hembras de el Homos Erectus .
@tahirkamboh147
@tahirkamboh147 6 жыл бұрын
How your machine stops so fast
@hnorrstrom
@hnorrstrom 6 жыл бұрын
Why are all comments so boring? If he thinks it's cool to show this fine, you don't have to do it with your machines. Sure this is dangerous, and sure it's not the way you should do it but without experiments and testning humans would still be on the stoneage. I think it's intresting to see the raw power of friction.
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