I Built a Rail Mounted Turret for Defending the Base! (Scrap Mechanic Survival Ep.28)

Hey everyone back with more Scrap Mechanic Survival! Today we are building a rail system on top of the wall for a spud turret system! This will hopefully allow us to defend the wall quickly and work towards automation in the future!
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[@ericbarrows6606]

Maybe try mounting the spud guns on suspension pieces to have a reduced recoil

[@zealousdoggo]

Yes

[@atmghst7112]

Dats very smort big pp

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

He should slow down the firerate. It not only will fix the recoil, but with a reduced firer8 he wont chew through the ammo quick.

[@samtucker3735]

I was going say but thought it would make the shots to inconsistent lol

[@Psycorde]

@@robertbalazslorincz8218 maybe both. But fire rate is certainly excessive, it's wasteful

[@drive_6665]

kAN "I don't know what happens to my potatos" Also kAN - shots 100 spuds per second

[@brandonzhang760]

dude ive made a triple gatler car to shred thu the bossland. why? idk, but i loaded it with an entire chest full of spuds, within a few minutes of roaming around, i was out of spuds and had to scoot home lol

[@Soniccurtis14]

Drive _ ppap

[@annievinje9776]

My mom will not let me play this game

[@thesmithclan1]

kAN: ok boomer

[@DagoDuck]

20:34 You need at least a crop value of 100 (which include at least) 5 Pineapples or Broccoli to encounter tapebots. (There Is a calculator which shows you the size of the raids depending on the crops you plant)

[@gargarbrazze188]

everyone else: oh no i'm starving kan: i'm starving, eh thats ok

[@noelhernandez4528]

B E E T S

[@OrangeVibezz]

B E E T S

[@ktnwildcat]

You could make a pitch locking system that automatically is enabled when you starts shooting

[@OrangeVibezz]

Am i first but no one cares lol and its a idea and no recomment i like it good!

[@OrangeVibezz]

Zufigi

[@_Ordinace_]

Hi kAN just wanted to inform you that vacuum pumps can fertilize plants and place blocks (not parts)👀 Also the left and right steering of your turret doesn't need engines because they added a "bearing lock" (basically hold posission in trailmakers) feature for steering bearings with the lvl 5 seat and you can have the same effect with putting the steering on lower speed and turning on the bearing lock Also put the guns on suspension to reduce recoil

[@Project_VideoGame]

Hate to be that guy but.. Posission is spelled as position

[@element9224]

I feel like having this be resting on the rail and using the double piston method to move back and forth would work more consistently and possibly reduce lag.

[@tacklessstone0369]

Element92 no. Nonononono pistons cause so much lag

[@BeefIngot]

Maybe a burst gun would be more ammo friendly.

[@element9224]

ツTacklessStone0 more lag than two objects colliding constantly?

[@tacklessstone0369]

Element92 yes. And it doesn’t require so many component kits

[@Redgamingdino4005]

Kan with hammer: good. Kan with spud gun: pro. Kan with spud gun turret: legend

[@nathanhoey5627]

You should make a second cart for kosmo

[@Jerbt]

Nathan Hoey bruh

[@tacklessstone0369]

Episode 29: I make a giant cargo boat to transport vehicles

[@kakomakothebuilder6584]

Ikr

[@Cyberlong]

Episode 30: I repair the ship to destroy all farmbots to make them make me a sándwich

[@j_ordinary4252]

+ to transport pushers to push rocks into the transported refiners

[@plasmabolts4077]

It’s really “i built a combine harvester for super fast rock mining! (Scrap mechanic survival ep.29)”

[@BanyanBirb]

Hey kan, I got an idea on how you could optimize your mining trailer! Remember how your dozer idea didnt work cause the rocks were to have for the little dozer and were getting caught up on the door? I bet making a dozer with a few more wheels, perhaps 6 or 8 in total using real steering would give you enough traction to control the rock on the ground, and heres the kicker: design the trailer without a floor, so all you need to do is push the rocks underneath it into the grinding area, that way they don't get stuck!

[@benswowacct]

My god man, you are a beast! Here I am struggling to make a miner where my rear suspension isnt glitching when traveling and you are making stuff like this. Kudos!

[@VampireQueenAmy]

This could cure my boredom

[@repulbic_steve]

I love blueberries YUM! 😋

[@VampireQueenAmy]

People are delicious

[@VampireQueenAmy]

Do you see how bad that sounds

[@napoleonbonaparte4382]

What happened here

[@jackprice6599]

To reduce the rise the guns are having, try moving the tilt bearings to be inline with the spud gun barrel so the moment of inertia is lower on the bearing (they have less or no leverage) and you could also put them on suspension if it needs more. It will also help your aim.

[@zarnox3071]

For harvesting stone and metal, just have a wall of drills with resource collectors attached directly behind them. The collectors will instantly pick up the rods, then you have two options. First, you can simply place the processing thingy right next to the collectors on the wall to instantly refine the material, or you can move the assembly to processors in a different location using bearings/pistons. The benefit of this system is that there are no loose parts, so you don't need to fiddle with trying to pick up anything using a claw or anything of the sort.

[@ofrenegades3185]

0:33 kAN load from the bottom instead of the top! Drop down on top of a boulder with your encased drilling mechanism!! that way you avoid the lengthy gathering process

[@brycedrew3035]

That doesn't work with uneven terrain though.

[@zsoltpeterdaniel8413]

@@brycedrew3035 or just park above rocks and crush them with a drill wall with suspention so it fiesnt glitch and some rcs on top and refbots next to it

[@zsoltpeterdaniel8413]

For the front u just slap a single sad drill bc 1 can break the big bois

[@sandwichbandit779]

A few things, you could put the spudguns lower, directly in front of the bearings, to turn your rotational recoil into lateral recoil, which would reduce kick, you could put suspension pieces behind the guns to absorb the kick, or you could reduce the fire rate of the guns, not only reducing recoil, but also the waisted ammo

[@flyingmunk8956]

Kan: I don't why I chew through so many potatoes? Me: flashbacks of the chicken walker mech

[@spartans2383]

If the guns were in-line with the bearings that control the up-down movement, recoil would be reduced. It’s the same principle when it comes to the Bore Axis on handguns. The closer the barrel is to the fulcrum (hand holding the pistol/ the bearing controlling your aim), the less recoil you feel. By having your spud guns high above your pivot point, you are giving the recoil a lot of leverage to move your turret.

[@spartans2383]

This could be fixed by lowering the spud guns on your turret. You could also redesign the pivot system to connect behind the drivers seat instead of underneath. Whatever gets the two closer in-line with each other.

[@zarnox3071]

Maybe you could put the spudguns on suspension to dampen the recoil a bit. At the very least, it should mean that, even if the guns themselves wobble, the turret itself shouldn't change direction.

[@mm-rj3vo]

Ball turret style. The seat and turret need to be mounted on TWO bearings for horizontal swivel, one above it, one below it. The gun and seat themselves should have a single vertical swivel joint attached to the rotating horizontal swivel. This will prevent all significant kickback. Maybe place it on an arm system so you can reach it out over the edge of the base, above all the baddies, and shoot towards them, facing your base.

[@darkstone_official_2427]

This turret reminds me of that one minigame in Spyro A Hero's Tail where you had to mount the turret and shoot the monsters attacking that one guys fruit farm. Those games were always so annoying but I'll never get over the power rush I felt when I mounted a dual turret and fired off seemingly infinite rounds at creatures half the turret's size.

[@fallenwallgaming3932]

kAN build your mining machine similar to your auto farm. hollow out the trailer bed so you can park it around the rocks, when you push a button the drills slowly press in from either side, then move back out, then increment over, move in and out, and repeat to the opposite end. put the resource collectors behind the drills to grab the rocks as the drills make them, then when they return to the front the resource processor can process the rocks as you drive home or to find another rock outcropping.

[@ayupworld]

Thanks for these videos, I pick up so many great tips, and it's always entertaining to watch and learn!

[@cheekystego6605]

Tip: add 1 red light in between the other ones to act as almost a red dot laser

[@ssumbody6251]

I have a fun, slightly challenging, and interesting build for you to try out for mining rocks. My idea is this: You have a really wide (long?) car, that extends upwards. You drive over the rocks, and mine downwards. There are collectors and a refinery bot on it. You won’t need to worry about the resources jumping out of the way too much. It might be even better if you keep a few drills and move them with pistons towards where the rocks are. Or just a bunch of drills.

[@RemyKBartels]

I literally called this when you first bought a spud gun

[@ok-ct5tu]

it was kinda obvious

[@chaosakazero]

It wasnt a matter of if but when .

[@AgentWest]

The Mannequin Hand would be a great aimer if the finger was centered! lol As it is now, the best aimer for the saddle is the bolt (turn it's slot the right way and bam!) but i think it's not an lootable/craftable thing in survival. For the seat a traffic cone works pretty well. It _is_ craftable, has 2x2 base, and is 3 tall.

[@TheLightLOD]

For the recoil you could try placing the guns in-line with the vertical aiming bearings (to prevent a turning force), or as others have suggested to use suspension pieces to absorb recoil.

[@Closer2Zero]

For mining you could turn your trailer into something that uses the system of drills on a platform pointed down. You just crush them from the top down. It works pretty fast and you could scoop them up easily

[@just_Ro]

Make a giant box with drills on pistons inside, then weld the box over the rock formations with the drills facing down, completely covering it. Then just press a button to turn on :)

[@kiannardin1084]

You could extend out a line of 10ish blocks from in between the spud guns, and give yourself a front sight so you can see where the guns are aimed without the strict camera follow

[@narwhalking2788]

For mining, I think the sides of the drills do damage like te flat parts of saw blades. I saw a comment about a box so maybe do drills and resource collectors on the sides and a press up top. When you're all done swivel the resource collectors to te refinery bot. You can adapt the size based on what size of rockpile you mine. For the recoi on the spudgun. Try to put pistons and suspension on the back. The pistons will extend based on how far you go forward and the suspension will absorb the blow. You could alternatively put a thicker rail vertically, making it more rigid. You could put rollers on the inside to make the travel smoother. Anyway, I hope you can make your defensive plans work

[@evade_drew5407]

Why didn’t you make it a pun a “rail gun”

[@tdoyr2119]

Railed gun

[@lanerator5128]

He’s derailed some enemies.

[@williamcarroll3627]

I don’t know if it would line up properly, but a tiled glass block in between the spudguns might make aiming easier. It would essentially be a fixed crosshair so you could look around without losing aim

[@Josh-oc7ib]

When it comes to drones and turrets, salty's your man.

[@thecreativitysyndrome]

tip: put pipe pieces in a S shape towards the aiming point on the last turret bearing, and put the seat on a suspension at lowest strengh to absorb the recoil of the guns.

[@lelandbuehler6954]

Your videos are the best. i love watching and learning how things work, very informative

[@franghigli]

Hey kAN, you can place sawblades (or drills) on the side of your wall in order to prevent attacks. Bots are afraid of them.

[@angst_]

You could mount some spud guns that shoot parallel along the wall. And you can fire them like an electric fence. The potatoes shoot along the wall and hit anyone attacking it.

[@steeljawX]

Hey Kan, once crops are nearing fruition (harvesting) you can dump water on them and force them to blossom. Meaning if you planted all of them relatively at the same time, once one plant blossoms, you can start spamming water on your fields and force everything to blossom for harvesting. It's something I found out by accident, but I think it's a tip that can come in handy to a lot of players. This only works on the very last growth segment right before harvest stage. Also, for that water side that's a blind spot for your turret; could you theoretically, because I've been trying to formulate how to and I figure planting the idea in a better mechanic's mind is a better way to get it solved, make an automatic triggered rocket sledge to knock them to the front? Like I mean a literal swinging big A hammer with thrusters on one end that will ragdoll bots into tomorrw. I've tried a horizontal spinning version with just controllers and bearings and....you know what happens when you put those systems under too much load. I'm just wondering if it's a plausible concept to use a mass of Concrete 3 on Metal 3 with a Thruster 5 to send hay and totebots to Yeetus and back. I just am not a good enough player to get the resources needed to build something to that scale to test it out nor do I have the know how of the Scrap Mechanic mechanics nuances to know how to force something like that or similar to that to work.

[@QwertySanchezSA]

perhaps along with the left/right controls, you could use some sensors and some logic to have a third mode where the turrent just "patrols" back and forth from one end to the other so you can focus on just shooting?

[@michsko0464]

Suggestion for the recoil problem: Maybe try adding a bit weight on the front of the turret and maybe make the deöay between shots a smidge longer. Adds the bonus benefit of wasting less spuds

[@tuluppampam]

He could even activate the engine to automatically pitch down

[@zealousdoggo]

Or he could put the guns on suspension like how real life recoil suppression works

[@ermimprettysigmaphonk]

or, he could have a large weight in the back, and when the gun shoots the piston slide forward, maybe have many of piston sliders, or just slap some suspension on there and like every one else.

[@lukasemilio]

kan, did you know that one of those shooty dispensing things you use to plant crops can place blocks?

[@destroyermc2512]

Too bad those things aren’t in creative mode

[@rebooteed_3434]

vacuum pump: no shooty dispensing thing: yes hotel: trivago

[@rafaelrubio9166]

A suggestion, mount the spud guns on a block that has suspension behind to dampen the knockback (similar to the thrusters on a hovercraft)

[@lil_nightmare_XXX]

Instead of aiming through the middle of the spud guns you could rotate them slightly inwards using barings so that by the time they hit an enemy they are in the centre. You need to do adjustments but it works great nonetheless

[@shromp_]

I made a sort of a claw machine for mining using your piston pulsing tutorial, it was super helpful. Thanks! That’s also something you could try for your own mining machine if you want.

[@deryellowcap687]

To get away from the recoil... ... put your up/down pivot point in horizontal line to the spudguns .

[@mrlemurplays952]

Cool vid, bro! I always love your survival series. Keep it up!

[@silvershock2353]

Idea for the turret mix a timer in with the spud gun loop to lower the fire rate it will 1. lower the recoil 2. use less ammo and 3. give you better control while its firing. Just a suggestion but i am 80% sure it will work.

[@blazingdragon7218]

That's not how he builds though 😂

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

Yea. The firerate is basicly level MG42

[@Ryo-sp1ib]

to solve the recoil problem, you can probably adapt a burst fire circuit so it doesn't throw off your aimas burst fire gives time for the sights to settle

[@wenlihuang4295]

Kan, hope you know that water physics actually exists. Some people on KZbin actually made paddling boats, just not very efficient. Would really love to see you build one.

[@omnomgamer8633]

Hi kan if you want to make it more reliable at a range you can make a button that fires a single shot at a time this would reduce the recoil and wont hinder your close range fire rate or your weight

[@nuggetoofs2387]

Ian you should put suspension on the turret so the suspension will tease the recoil not your cart. Like so Ian can see!

[@loeffel4144]

It looks like a good basic design. As you found out already it has some flaws, but you can fix them for sure. You should invest metal for the wall, then the haybots and toadbots have no way to get through.

[@RobiBue]

Actually, place saw blades behind the first layer of wall will keep the haybots and totebots from damaging the wall. The blades don’t even need to turn 😉

[@callumella8812]

@@RobiBue hay bots and toadbots can't attack tier 3 or 2 metal because of the durability

[@feminineoreo280]

Hey kan Because you have a legal 5 seat you can use rotation lock on steering bearings and it would be very good for this turret.

[@masheen_]

Sensor on each end. If enabled turn off button. Then you can manually push other button to go other direction. No need to think to stop at that point

[@spider219]

This Might Be The Coolest Thing Anyone Has Has Ever Done In Scrap Mechanic

[@kingofspades76]

The warehouse mech was quite possibly cooler if you ask me

[@bloodman125]

I think what you need to do to try to reduce the recoil is to lower the actual spud gun cannons to be a little lower so that the force or recoil is more centered towards your center of mass. If you take actual gun physics into mind when using the cannon it makes sense that the recoil is pushing you up but centering the cannons so they are a little lower might help fix the issue. Just an idea.

[@taraithran1386]

For a momet i thought it said railgun

[@derpmaster2732]

Arknautica same

[@benswowacct]

Same, I never clicked on a video so fast thinking "how in the hell did he do it this time!?" in my entire life!

[@kakomakothebuilder6584]

It had not read title twice while pressing I would have though same thing nvh

[@c.a.o.svideos6288]

That would be epic tho

[@occasionalart7597]

Ah yes, "I built a railgun in survival"

[@loik1loik1]

I think instead of using 4 logic gates you can use one timer, then it doesn't use as much potatos. Usually after you finish shooting a bit you waste a few potatoes. I hope it helps.

[@andresanillovega532]

Kan they go whenever you are, you should wait for them in front of the door! nice job!

[@Vell1981]

You need a tier 3 metal layer on the outside of that wall that would help with the damage but great turret system.

[@olivern5722]

A tip kan The "storage" can be a vacuum so if u just make a platform pushing down on the rock so everything gets in small pieces and the vacuum it up with the storage

[@nathanbarraud4349]

For the recoil you should put the pitch bearing at the same level (height) as the spudguns(like on the same line of blocs), like that it will not change your orientation when shooting

[@katoblepas1234]

for that corner maybe you can use some sort of paddle to push the bots from corner to the front of the wall to use the spudgun then

[@nicopad2260]

I think the best thing to do in order to reduce the recoil is to have the spud guns not shoot fast, because as I've seen, fast spud guns clearly do not work well, there might be some s(small immunity time after the enemies are hit) and that causes the spuds to not deal damage sometimes. Having the spuds be manual would be more spud-efficient and easier to aim.

[@jconlPY-m]

You can fix your base automatically with ‘vacuum that spits uhh’ and you just put blocks on the vacuum also a sensor, logic gates.

[@beppyboo]

This turret worked okay, but a solution for both your recoil problem and the high potato usage could be just reducing the rate of fire with a timer. I've noticed that a large portion of your potatoes are wasted by either firing off-target or continuing to fire when the target is already dead. A lower fire rate allows you to more easily react to these events without wasting so many potatoes in the process, and potatoes have such a low time-to-kill that it wouldn't really negatively affect the turret's effectiveness. A lower fire rate would also reduce recoil on the turret without having to make it unnecessarily heavier.

[@ZicoJaed]

Autoturret with sensors on a swivel! i have a few mounted on my base, works quite nice...

[@pizzadog7575]

I.... what? Here we have Kan building turrets and then there is ScrapMan commiting war crimes against Farmbots

[@snackpirate_]

Instead of using an A/D converter for the turret steering you could have attached the seat to a bearing and changed the steering settings to maximum angle(120 degrees left/right iirc)

[@Landogarner83]

Recoil is no problem if you put the bearings for up/down on the same level as the guns. As in have the turret inside a fork.

[@erikpatrone1077]

To patch the turret make it heavier and/or use suspension to absorb the recoil

[@thomasbrina4005]

Kan, I think you need to put two bearings under the spudguns and rotate them towards the cross, idk just rotate those by 15 degrees more or less, like this you can aim a bit better, simply test several angles based on the distance betwin you and the enemy

[@baronlefuq8882]

I'd recommend a burst fire on the turret, it'll keep recoil down and save on spuds

[@radio-active8522]

May be it is not efficient and effective at all but looks great and just imagine that you should walk trough this secured with tourent wall.

[@dylanwhatsamacallit5643]

good idea Kan keep up the great work

[@lem1n574]

You should do wall mounts. Like hikes in the wall with rotating guns, like an armored truck

[@dscrafted]

How about using bearing lock on a level 5 seat instead of an a/d converter and motors? Just saves parts and properly also lag in the long run.

[@benw9166]

KAN you should make the turret seat and turning pieces move where you look

[@xtremefurrycat]

For the mining I really like the trailer you have but keep the refiner on it and have a vehicle that just drops off resource containers on the trailer to be refined and stored. Once it's all done the vehicle loads back on the trailer and drive off

[@zealousdoggo]

Just a suggestion but you could put the spud guns on suspension to act as recoil suppression

[@j_ordinary4252]

This is where we see his monorail practice come in hand

[@worldofoblivion977]

Me: Wow, everyone else is building bases and rockets while kAN is figuring out how to mine rocks kAN: "I built a RAIL-MOUNTED TURRET" Me: O.o Edit: yes, excluding the warehouse mech.

[@EricAndCats]

And a tank and 3 trailers and A truck and a farm and a base and really good videos :D

[@AnthonySBD]

put the guns in front of the rotation point so the kick back goes right into rotation point thus eliminating kickback. or add weight below the rotation axis on the front

[@ArmitageShanksMC]

All the crops you plant AFTER the timer appears don't count towards the raid difficulty that generates when the timer is up. And as long as those plants are harvested BEFORE the new planting deadline, they will never count. Also, if you fertilize pineapples and broccoli, they will mature in 20 hours (minutes) rather than 42. Tapebots usually don't appear until the second wave of a bot raid (ie. you have crops planted over 2 nights)

[@comfypokey]

regarding the trailer for mining you might be better off having it just be a collector on an arm that can swing out from right next to the refiner to right by the drill or something like that? might work out.

[@BrunisPistol]

For farming without using potatoes, durability 6+ blocks are indestructible to everything but big reds, a couple strips of metal 1, concrete 2, or wood 3 on walls makes bots just stand outside until morning then run off. Also, overhead crushers. Crushers are hella OP.

[@DenKonZenith]

The closer to the centerline between the guns the up/down bearings are the less of an issue you'll have with recoil.

[@nessness8719]

It should be possible to use wheels for an intake system, to better grab the rocks, into maybe a chain of wheels to just pipe the rocks into the thing Like a wheel-powered rock vacuum

[@anirudh6642]

reducing fire rate seems like an obvious solution, saves on spuds and reduces recoil. probably won't need that rate unless you have bosses coming at you.

[@byggmesterpro1092]

@kAN Gaming as for the recoil on the gun, you could change out 1 of the electric engine on the pitch and change it out with a controller, then put all of the controller thingies on 36 degrees. That will take some of the kick because as you know controllers are hecka strong, and you spare batteries too.

[@jameshansen1903]

The simplest solution is the best one: move the spud guns lower so the recoil is directly in line with the tilt bearings. Either that or move the tilt bearings up to be directly behind the spud guns.

[@moaiadaljamal4422]

I guess you can make a full line of mountable spud guns facing down the wall with sensors and you should be bulletproof. The only problem you'll have is the tape bots/ bosses but you can easily take them out with the turret/a normal gun.

[@andrewsullivan2110]

You could put the guns on Springs parallel to the barrels to soak up the kick

[@stav-vastal6100]

This is sick !!

[@kevinrhodes6066]

Put the depress/aggression angle in line with the spudguns

[@Victor-of4qn]

Hmm, you can try using suspension for each spudgun. In theory, should absorb the recoil energy by letting the spudgun to move back and then reset itself. :)

[@killerbuzzit347]

Hmmm I feel like it shoots too fast to allow the suspension to recoil. I'm building my own turret tomorrow so I'll test this

[@dodgerunner9573]

Crazy idea. Move base airborne with a lift to lower trucks to ground level in an attempt to stop haybots and other attacking “mobs”

[@toddabbott781]

Just put saw blades all along the wall. Put a bit of weight in the front so it is more balanced.