I hate it when Toriel is portrayed like that. In the original, her reasons were much more complex. During the pacifist, Tori says that if Asgore really wanted to free the monsters, he would have crossed the barrier with one soul, killed 6 more people there and destroyed the barrier, but instead he hoped that no more humans would fall into the underground like a coward. So Tory doesn’t like Asgore, because he finds himself in a situation where he doesn’t want to leave the underground, but still kills humans.She's no better though. She left her husband and people and ran away from problems. If Asgore tried to do at least something, she gave up immediately.
@canadian_fanatic93653 ай бұрын
She ain’t tryna protect humans. She tryna protect children. Killing kids is a line you shouldn’t cross
@KANGROSE3 ай бұрын
You mean the kids of the enemy’s that killed asgore kid and trapped his entire race underground
@DromusTH3 ай бұрын
Yeah but she was completely fine with Asgore killing people outside the barrier.
@pillock6542 ай бұрын
@@KANGROSE the child shouldn't suffer the sins of the father, that's like executing a newborn because their great-grandparent fought in a war
@ambrose_arts4 ай бұрын
i sorta get the dislike for toriel i guess, but at the same time, she did lose 2 children in one night. one of them being a human child. it makes perfect sense to me why she would be against the killing of human children, considering she was a mother who lost her kids. it makes sense why she would lash out at those around her because of it, she's got some horrible trauma
@canned-confusion79504 ай бұрын
Glitchtale is the worst place to find your opinion on toriel lmaooooo
@Thatguy-kf9yi4 ай бұрын
30:39 I feel the king is still mostly in the wrong. Though her protecting KILLER kids is something else.
@Thatguy-kf9yi4 ай бұрын
Toriel definding a killer kid be like. Toriel "They did nothing wrong fellow monsters, just continue your day like nothing happened everyone :D, yup stay safe guys!"
@mariotheundying4 ай бұрын
Toriel never defended a killer kid at all tho?? she just protected a normal kid, that's it, she never finds out of what we did until we either kill her in geno OR we do a neutral route where we mostly attack people and leave her alive, in which case she'll know what happened, either way, your fault
@intel39834 ай бұрын
toriel hate is crazy
@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau4 ай бұрын
and justified, she's so selfish
@koxbalon4 ай бұрын
@@SprayInk-Kreatïv-Nouveau wdym
@MoRiSeR_3 ай бұрын
Toriel hate because of GLITCHTALE is stupid because GT!Toriel isn’t canonically accurate. While I do think that a lot of Asgore hate by the UNDERTALE community is unjustified I think that Toriel and Asgore are about even with their stupidass decision making in canon UT. I mean Asgore literally killed 6 humans even though he could’ve at least let them live their lives in the underground until their natural death if they weren’t violent. At least until the seventh soul came. Edit: I have no idea why I used the word selfish instead of stupid. Must’ve been tired or something. Also changed „stupid“ to „not canonically accurate“ to not use „stupid“ twice.
@Catsarelazykings2 ай бұрын
@@SprayInk-Kreatïv-NouveauI mean I would leave my husband too if he declared war on MILLION'S of humans and plans to sit on his throne and kill any child who falls into the underground also the fact she lost her children in one day is a lot of stress for her so her husband declaring war on humans doesn't really help with the stress.
@KMAXfr4 ай бұрын
YES I WAS ASKING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG THIS IS FINNA BE A BANGER!!!!!!!!!
@KMAXfr4 ай бұрын
also im first ig 🤷♂
@natsuki_natasha4 ай бұрын
Eyy you're to fast @@KMAXfr
@Cluetube4 ай бұрын
happy as hell about that SOMA mention at the end 1:22:04 because I was thinking the same thing when i watched this shit lmfao. Has such a wild ending Also 1:01:57 😭 "A Gun!" Had me rolling
@itz_discotime14514 ай бұрын
Wonderful video as always. I hope you continue to make banger vids like these.
@LightsLuis-wo1qt4 ай бұрын
I was waiting too, fellow commenters!! ✌️
@natsuki_natasha4 ай бұрын
Same yo
@err0r5224 ай бұрын
A nice comic that a totally forgot about.
@aafx33534 ай бұрын
I recommend you timetale, the comics have finished its first and second chapters but the last pages did not get dubbed. warning : contain past salphys (sans x alphys) relathionship comics made by AllesiaTheHedge, dubbed by Sans Comic TV to the page 127 of chapter 2 with chapter 2 finish in comics with 140 pages. chapter 3 has just begun
@willwatts67332 ай бұрын
Here’s a thought, why don’t we let the humans grow up in the underground and absorb their soul after they die of cancer or something? Then Asgore (or whoever absorbed it) goes to surface and works at a hospice or hospital or something, your bound to find dying people will to give their soul to some horrible monster! A truly peaceful way out.
@SKIIBIIIDIIIIIIIIIIIIIII4 ай бұрын
PLEASE WATCH THE AFTERTALE COMIC DUB NEXT!! ITS A LITTLE OLD BUT INTERESTING TRUST 🙏🙏
@fluffkit2354 ай бұрын
@KANGROSE I get that you hate Toriel and that's fine, but how you describe Asgore as purely as a king that would sacrafice enemy to free his people is not fully right. Asgore does care for his people, but you forget that Asgore is a coward as it was not needed for him to WAIT years for someone to fall down causing More years of depression for monsters as its stated through Asriel and Chara that all it take to get through the barrier is a monster and one human soul. If he truly wanted he could absorb a soul and gone out and killed adults who were bad people, but he didn't because he was a coward to do so he wait for years letting his people become more depressed and then killed childern. Toriel even states that's the reason she hates Asgore the way she dose. In a Pacifist run she says that if Asgore really wanted to free the monsters, he would have crossed the barrier with one soul, killed 6 more people there and destroyed the barrier, but instead he hoped that no more humans would fall into the underground like a coward.
@randomyoutuber26333 ай бұрын
The one part about that that I hate is Toriel not doing it herself. She could probably go down there without any problems.
@alexanderberry16654 ай бұрын
wait why do we hate Toriel again? I forgor edit: oh nvm sorry
@GivoAsmr4 ай бұрын
he explained, asgore did so much for monsterkind, toriel did nothing but leave and is somehow upset about it
@alexanderberry16654 ай бұрын
@@GivoAsmr yeah I reached that part shortly after commenting this, thx for the explanation though!
@AsmodeusUno4 ай бұрын
I mean toriel did it because this mf literally want to start another War! And do you think everybody will be happy if asgore start another war and just start killing every human? If asriel will didnt die and asgore dont blame humans for death of his son and have a little bit patience or kind and a bit of brain he will not lose toriel💀 So hating on Toriel is crazy
@natsuki_natasha4 ай бұрын
Yo chill
@AsmodeusUno4 ай бұрын
@@natsuki_natasha how the fuck I'm gonna chil this is the first time I see someone actaully hate character from undertale after 8 fucking years because someone on glitchtale episode commented Like what the fuck is wrong with you? Who the fuck you are to judge them even if we dont know absolute full story of this! I not gonna talk about Camilla(creator of glitchtale) checking comments of her fans is just bad idea cuz you know she's got big exposed💀
@J.A.K.E51014 ай бұрын
I get what you're saying but i don't think the barrier was ever a factor in her plans, remember she wanted to destroy the exit to the ruins so that no humans could ever leave.
@natsuki_natasha4 ай бұрын
@@J.A.K.E5101 i hate and like toriel, she helped all the human child that falls as a mother but at the same time betrayed her own kind. It's hard to hate and like her 😭
@pleasegoawaydude4 ай бұрын
@@natsuki_natasha Ah, you're a nationalist or race purist or something IRL then?
@romicabudau6074 ай бұрын
Amazing you reacted to this one too! But could you please watch dogs of the past? Its really interesting.
@romicabudau6074 ай бұрын
its actually called dogs of the future past
@GivoAsmr4 ай бұрын
YO MY FAVORITE ONE LETS GO
@gamesboy123able4 ай бұрын
ayo can you please react to The Choice - UNDERTALE All Bosses Animation
@charrii-san74034 ай бұрын
HYYPE IVR BEEN WAITING FOR THIS LETS GOOOO
@Deniolia4 ай бұрын
I think toriel is a bit more sympathetic that you make her out to be. i dont think its that she doesnt get that asgore is doing it for the monsters, but sees chara in each of these humans. i always interpreted it as toriel thinking there HAS to be another solution. ANY other solution that doesnt require human kids. i mean, if you think about it, couldn't you take the kids in, like she does, and raise them, eventually teaching them the neccesary magic to tak down the barrier? sure, she reacts harshly to the deaths. sure, she shouldn't have left monsterkind, but if you take her seeing chara in these humans, then shes seeing her husband killing what she (irrationally) sees as chara, her adopted child. i see her going to the ruins to carry out the plan of raising the humans to be able to destroy the barrier, trying to protect the children, and while it leaves the kingdom without a queen, she wants to get out without bloodshed. of course, this is my personal interpretation, and maybe im defending toriel because i relate strongly to that protective motherly instinct of hers, but im interested to see what you think. im open to debate on the subject, as long as both parties take it lightly and good-spirited. i dont want to argue angrily also this has been SO annoying to type out. my computer's e key isn't working, so im just copy and pasting every instance of the letter e in this entire monologue ive written here.
@AsmodeusUno4 ай бұрын
@@Deniolia I'm actually think about too but say "fuck you" To Toriel when she literally being so sweet in the game is just you know... He just being an asshole to Toriel💀
@J.A.K.E51014 ай бұрын
I get what you're saying but the barrier was never a factor in her plan, remember she wanted to destroy the exit to the ruins so that no human could leave.
@AsmodeusUno4 ай бұрын
@@J.A.K.E5101 its more like a thought, becuse she think about twice before not doing it And she literally always lose child like they her own and I think in that case she literally should became a fucking Horrortale Version of her self because how strong her sanity bruh💀 She is the GOAT Mother I geuss
@Deniolia4 ай бұрын
@J.A.K.E5101 ah, you're right. But she also doesn't NOT care for monsters. I remember I noticed when watching someone else's playthrough, one of the first things she says is that she comes by every day to see if anyone has fallen down. Now, to a new player, this sounds like she's only looking for humans, but if you remember that just before monsters die they enter essentially a coma before turning to dust. This state being referred to as "fallen down." Suddenly, her not specifying humans becomes a lot more important. She's looking to see if any monsters are dying so she can give them a proper ending. Or whatever monsters do for their dead family and friends
@AsmodeusUno4 ай бұрын
@@Deniolia mmmm it is actually the first becuse it's just another theory or smth cuz she is always checking the flowers because of the fallen child💀 If she just do it I think she will not die by one hit and that low damage
@ketsutara28544 ай бұрын
first it started with jessica, and now toriel💀
@Nightout884 ай бұрын
@10:55 well then i aint your homie, toriel is the best on god.
@eliasthememelord4 ай бұрын
🅱️ack with another banger‼️
@blackshadow72144 ай бұрын
i get your toriel hate. my thing is that she could've gone with the any of the kids and prevented them from dying. she could've talked to asgore and stopped him from fighting or literally anything other than just hiding in the ruins. i get that she hates him but if your going to go hide away and not do anything, then you can't just show up acting like you was doing something even though all the kids you was trying to protect died anyways.
@pleasegoawaydude4 ай бұрын
People who hate on Toriel must despise mothers everywhere, I guess.
@KANGROSE4 ай бұрын
you couldnt of heard what i said
@TheTiredestArtist11024 ай бұрын
yurika!
@aboveaveragegaming55034 ай бұрын
UT!mob would be a fun one tbh
@LovelyDolphins-ow4pr4 ай бұрын
YESSSS FINALLY BIG DADDY KING DID IT 😭😭😭😭
@aboveaveragegaming55034 ай бұрын
to be fair to tori asgore's first kill aka when she left he likely out of anger and revenge for his dead kids and 2 wrongs don't make a right also as noted if it was just pragmatic he would have left after 1 and got the rest not waited for 7 to fall she has been completely cut off in the ruins for 6 to fall could be hundreds of years with only the worst thing that she ever experienced of asgore to reflect on only knowing that they had been slaughtered one by one his justifications were unknown and were still just that what he did was awful even if he did those actions for just reasons both sides are hurt and both are wrong neither is really more right or wrong in my opinion
@thefunnydog82794 ай бұрын
You should watch the aftertale comic!!
@latartine21634 ай бұрын
Do undertale yellow pacifist pls
@sandtheunderman2 ай бұрын
20:42 also toriel killing the patience soul canonical:👁️👄👁️
@NoNCannonGenoSans4 ай бұрын
i will explain this, in undertale lore: toriel hates asgore because he killed 6 humans, and why? because he was scared, you can break the barrier with 1 soul, asgore didnt want to break the barrier like that, he wanted to be a god, and toriel didnt like that, thats the reason you dont need 7 souls to break the barrier, with 1 soul you can do it, toriel isnt selfish, asgore is
@genarorios50553 ай бұрын
you only need one human soul to cross the barrier not to break it. that's why Asriel was able to go to a human settlement and return to the underground to die.
@DromusTH3 ай бұрын
No, she was being selfish if it was so easy then she should have done it.