Kara Swisher Talks AI-Generated Scams, Tech Regulations and Trump's Stance on Banning TikTok

[@El-wv1tf]

The snort at 6:28 after the question about Truth social is wonderfully genuine.

[@jamesclaytonbowman5977]

best moment for sure

[@Jenny_Oblivion]

That was a great moment! I agree!

[@sashakasprzyk5683]

He tried to buy the NFL's Buffalo Bills pro football team back about 2014. He was in the pool of 6 final bidders the NFL chose and was asked to submit financial records to show he could either buy the team or could raise funds for it with solid collateral backing, but instead he submitted a letter with a copy of a Fortune Magazine article listing him as one of the wealthier people in the United States. The NFL turned him down

[@MrCityslickerktm]

LMAO I had to see whether or not that was true... Donald Trump passed out copies of a Forbes list of top-paid entertainers when huddling with Buffalo Bills execs to bolster his bid to buy the team - while refusing to reveal his financials, it surfaced in court Tuesday. “He gave us handouts of the Forbes list of the top-paid entertainers,” Don Cornwell of Morgan Stanley testified.

[@marshalbaek5580]

It's so odd how people either see him as the punk that he is or they believe the fairy tale lie he portrays himself to be.

[@mightyone3737]

@@marshalbaek5580 Do you really think there is much of a middle ground with open fascists? People either think he's the bee's knees, or they they see him for what he is, a buffoon. The NFL is very much all about the money, so when he was just another horse's ass that inherited some money I'm not surprised they didn't take him at his (worthless) word. Still, I bet they'd bend over backwards to help trump buy a team now if they thought it'd get him elected, trump's whole platform is screwing over the poor and helping the rich. The rich aren't especially bright, but they understand that a 'politician' like trump is an investment, if he actually wins they win big, and if he loses they lost money they literally will never miss.

[@robertw1962]

Kind of like all the US banks did.

[@marshalbaek5580]

@@robertw1962 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. And here we are. Now what?

[@Mediaright]

Kara's been around forever and definitely one of the most shrewd and "most feared" journalists covering tech. Definitely one to keep tabs on.

[@MeppyMan]

She has changed though. She’s far too chummy with the rich and famous, and got way more self centred of late. Used to like her but not so much anymore.

[@Mediaright]

@@MeppyManNot really. Maybe she’s a bit more transparent about it now, but as she’s said: she’s not chummy, they just call her because they’re insecure and she’s not really friends with them. She tells them to grow up usually lol.

[@jamesclaytonbowman5977]

would love to see her appointed to a cabinet-level position to help put the yoke on tech company political power/influence, but she'd probably turn it down.

[@MeppyMan]

@@jamesclaytonbowman5977 she’s far to friendly with those running those very corporations.

[@malavika3010]

I've seen Kara speak to a tech CEO at a conference. Barely touched on any hard hitting questions, and easily took his actually baseless answers

[@kasondaleigh]

Excellent interview. I would have enjoyed a longer conversation.

[@ElonsDiamondMine]

I gotchu fam kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5_SqoFpo5KhbLs

[@jerichojeudy]

In France, evening talk shows often have 30 min interviews with the main guest. Just sayin. :)

[@joelTide]

She’s wonderful. If you don’t listen to her podcasts, it’s highly recommended. Pivot is a great listen to start with. Go Kara!

[@Dynnen]

Shes brilliant and her dry wit is fantastic ❤😂

[@dewimatthews6037]

'You only need one piece of yarn' Perfect image!

[@tabularasa]

Love her curiosity and fearlessness. Great guest

[@WaltMossberg]

Kara is great on TV. Buy the Book!

[@andybaldman]

She’s a phony. You of all people know that.

[@amyrashap5713]

It's very good

[@studiocelestedesign]

Impossible not to admire women like Kara Swisher. A kind-hearted person with a fearsomely sharp mind and the best possible Jewish New Yorker accent; we're lucky to have her takes making sense of things, putting on the heat and moving the needle. A great American.

[@mkilptrick]

I love listening to Kara. She is so knowledgeable.

[@dahawk8574]

She said the internet was invented in 1962. 3:18 Only off by about a decade.

[@Mediaright]

@@dahawk8574The roots go back to 62, yes. For all intents and purposes, it’s fine to say 62 for most people.

[@dahawk8574]

@@Mediaright That is as foolish as crediting the US Interstate Highway System to Henry Ford, because he built cars. And then attempting to defend the assertion by saying that Ford's Model T constituted the roots of the Interstate. It fails to fill any intent or purpose. You either don't understand what the internet is... a network of networks, or you're lying. Kara is not stupid. So the question here is why would she tell a blatant lie over a fact so simple.

[@sashakasprzyk5683]

If Trump Senior has 5 kids by 3 wives and is traveling south at 50 mph, and Trump Junior has 5 kids by one wife and is traveling west at 40 mph, how many indictments until the 2 men meet in prison?

[@__mads__]

All of them

[@karinwolf3645]

😆😆😆😆💋💖🌵👵🐺🖖Hahaha!!!!

[@mauricioangulos.2830]

They're both probably traveling to Georgia

[@likebot.]

Let's see, the square of the hypoteneuse is equal to 50mph times 1.33 kids per WHALE! I'm just wondering whose wives they'll be inside.

[@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491]

You. Rock

[@Jessica-kk1cz]

She’s always insightful, pragmatic and quick. Always entertaining

[@Sileonex123]

The very real chuckle stifled when asked of the importance of Truth Social...was fucking amazing

[@Carmen24860]

Why? What’s amazing about sucking back snot

[@melissao.219]

I love Kara! She is a boss

[@EricAllen8494]

❤ her, wish this was a extended interview

[@naylas3908]

Go to Pod Save America, they did a long interview with her a few weeks ago.

[@NewMessage]

2:08 Kristen Wiig character 2:14 Cecily Strong character 2:25 Guest Host Rachael Ray character.

[@zacharydavis4398]

THANK YOU FOR FINALLY BEING ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT VOICES/OUTLETS SPENDING THE TIME TO CREATE AND SHARE THIS CONTENT AWARENESS 🙏🏾… many years late but better late than never as the saying goes

[@christinecamley]

Kara’s book is fabulous!! Love her!!

[@ArielDuffyable]

WHEELS WORK AND WALLS WORK!!!😂😂😂😂 love the callback, Seth

[@kan708]

Good choice for a guest. Insightful, knowledgeable and pithy. More of these type, please. Thank you

[@davidt3956]

We had theories for most of current AI in the 80s and 90s. What's different is the internet. It's cloud computing that allowed the implementation of the theory.

[@ihaveplants5922]

1:44 - "Artificial General Intelligence-the latest version of AI." This is not correct. Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is the objective of machine learning, where an AI system can make critical decisions absolutely on its own, often better than a human. A lot of people thought GPT-3 had glimmers of AGI, but now we know its purpose is simply to generate believable sounding text based on its training data. I think what she means to say is Generative Adversarial Networks (GANs) which provides training data (images or text) to machine learning algorithms. This can be things like DALL-E or Midjourney for images, Sora for video, and ChatGPT for text. Just think it's important in these segments that we start to introduce the proper terminology to educate the public.

[@marshalbaek5580]

And to be clear, based on what you say the objective is for AGI, it does not exist today and there is not enough tech that works today that can state AGI's "objective" will materialize with complete 100% certainty.

[@ballman2010]

Yeah I found this jarring too. It may just be a slip of the tongue, but because it's a relatively hot-button issue, it's going to have some people claiming we already have AGI 😬

[@evan1337]

@@ballman2010Same. I think she meant "Generative AI"

[@ihaveplants5922]

@@ballman2010 I found Israeli philisopher Yuval Noah Harari's AI commentary from his current press-run to be even more egregious. He was on Meyers last week and later Colbert, making Machine Learning to be some kind of bogeyman "digital consciousness that makes decisions that can harm humans." Sort of the "scary AI will control humanity" conversations your dad drones on about. Stephen Colbert called him out on it, saying all the datasets provided to ML models are made by humans, therefore the AI can only predict, create, or find patterns within the human dataset; NOT create entirely original ideas. Harari pushes back by saying algorithms like the Stockfish equivalent for Go play the game unlike any human player. But I feel this comparison is not evidence that refutes Colbert, and actually relies on older machine learning systems versus the GANs and deep learning systems we're obsessed with as a society today. I will be impressed when we find a communicator who can adequately convey these concepts in an exciting way! That person will truly inspire a generation of kids to get into the field, the way Carl Sagan did for astronomy.

[@Demarquis-j2v]

@@evan1337 That makes more sense. Currently AGI doesn't exist, and may never exist. But LLM's can generate new content on demand. Just wait until they get good enough to use your metadata to customize every webpage and banner ad for each individual user.

[@artlewellan2294]

I gagged at Kara's answer to Seth's question about A.I. which led with "cars" as in "self-driving cars." As a transportation system planner, I consider "driverless" car tech a "fraudulent ruse" meant to distract attention from actual solutions to insane traffic. The compromise position on Autonomous Vehicle AV tech is "driver assist" ie, emergency braking, inadvertent lane changes, etc. AV could recognize posted speed limits, ie, one can drive slower than the posted speed limit, but not faster, nor too fast through busy intersections.

[@signalfire6]

I want city streets divvy'ed up into E-W routes and N-S routes; then every third or fourth street, have them be only bicycle, motorcycle and bus routes except cars allowed at low speeds for the people who live on those streets. If some streets were made safer for bikes, more people would use bike commuting. It would be as fast or faster than car traffic and as time went on, more people would adapt to bike/motorbike or bus commuting. (We need more cars like the Twike, a pedal/electric hybrid). If bikes don't have to compete on car roads, bikers would be far safer.

[@BettyofOOO]

Can’t wait to read it!

[@lashendawest7509]

We love kara swisher

[@andybaldman]

No. No we don’t.

[@mshalls7614]

Kara for President !!!!!

[@mk1st]

Well, maybe CPB.

[@victoriamc.groggan3777]

Brilliant lady 🤗🤗🤗💕🍀

[@andrewfrasier4589]

More like this please

[@YUYI2377]

I’ve never screamed harder in my lifeeee ahhhh❤❤❤

[@wesleybush8646]

Why is this on KZbin before Peacock? Step it up NBC.

[@ihaveplants5922]

LOL you expect a lot out of NBC. Those guys haven't even acquired the Peacock domain name, it takes you to an unsecure phishing site.

[@debbiedoodiedandi]

Peacock's posting time is so weird! It's like 3am or 4am for shows. When NBC was on Hulu, shows would appear at 2am

[@wesleybush8646]

@@debbiedoodiedandi They posted this episode 1pm edt. Why?

[@srwapo]

I haven't watched one of these interviews in forever. President of the USA? Who cares? Gotta listen to what Kara Swisher has to say.

[@Yourmission9]

I very much enjoy her Pivot podcast with Scott Galloway

[@nicolegehring1483]

The Truth Social not making money section of this did not age well in only 2 weeks.

[@Studeb]

It's losing money, the ones buying shares will lose everything and say they did it to support their strong man.

[@reddy272]

I really hope she's right, and that TikTok will be banned

[@ucantSQ]

She says AI is the next internet, and everyone just nods and assents. So it'll happen. But it's going to suck.

[@AM-ni3sz]

Good story

[@betaneptune]

Cell phones aren't filthy? At my last job, I heard a lot of men using them in the stalls! Yeah. Progress.

[@vickiep4217]

No regulation? Follow the money.

[@CodyHa420]

they didn't need to donate to Trump.. just needed to say he had large hands and nice real hair, and he would've done a 180 for them.

[@JourneyofOne971]

Legislation might get passed before ASI emerges, but it's already way too late to even inhibit AGI.

[@chuzzbot]

Doesn't know what AGI is.

[@andybaldman]

Exactly

[@VincentPeters-vs2us]

When you mix religion with politics you get a couple of hundred years of entitlement for the few paid from the misery of the test. I am talking UK here. You don't have a Cromwell.

[@jazzstiteler8150]

found sixty bucks in a pay phone

[@WhineNot]

Swisher often comes across as a bitter egoist scold. Humility ain’t her best event, either.

[@Hello-xp5wz]

How stupid. Tech funds both parties. Citizens United slush fund PACs give money to both party.

[@lynnechambers6719]

Don’t like her.

[@TwoTreesStudio]

Yeah I'm sorry she is completely full of crap, everyone knows what a payphone/phone booth is even if they haven't used one. What a ridiculous story to tell for her intro. I hope it will become relevant sometime. Edit: if you have a writer who approved this weird fake intro, fire them, they are not serving you well

[@signalfire6]

She was talking about a child, years ago. My son had a friend over around 1995 - I had to tell him how to 'dial' the phone on the wall because he'd never seen one without buttons.

[@johnricercato740]

Tiresome Kara: completely ruined Succession cast interviews by interposing her own views on every possible occasion and arguing with the interviewees. Clearly a massive egoist of a type only the US seems to indulge.

[@andybaldman]

Bingo.

[@signalfire6]

Yes but she's intelligent. Trump is not.

[@TysonJensen]

haha, Seth, you weren't there when the wheel was invented. But, hey, you had Biden on the show, you could've asked him what it was like.

[@TheRealBlueValhalla]

Chud thud

[@dahawk8574]

3:17 - Internet in 1962?! She just lost all credibility as a "Tech Expert".

[@debbiedoodiedandi]

She's talking about packet switching, which researching started on in the 60s.

[@likebot.]

You're kinda right, but it wasn't completed when it was invented. The internet really wasn't useable until 1969. A lot of people think it was invented in 1994 when Tim Berners-Lee created the World Wide Web for the CERN computers. But the idea to create what would be the internet started in the 1950s

[@dahawk8574]

​@@likebot. Ideas are not the same as inventions. This is why nobody says Leonardo Da Vinci invented the airplane. "The internet really wasn't useable until 1969." Here you too have the wrong decade. The internet is a network of networks. Therefore, you need more than one. You need to connect them together. This did not happen in 1962. Nor did that happen in 1969. Inventing one part does not give you a legitimate claim for inventing the whole.

[@dahawk8574]

@@debbiedoodiedandi She did not say 'packet switching'. She said the Internet. These are two very distinct things. Please see my preceding reply about inventing a part versus inventing the whole. Notice how no one claims to have invented AGI because they created the Perceptron. We are talking about steps that lead to an end result. The Wright Brothers made no claim to being successful in powered flight on the date that the canvas used to cover their wings was invented. Necessary, but FAR from sufficient.

[@likebot.]

@@dahawk8574 I can't disagree with most of that. But the internet was up and running by 1969.

[@andybaldman]

*KARA SWISHER IS TERRIBLE*

[@mariavm9178]

What a brilliant woman.

[@andybaldman]

She’s fake. Don’t believe it.

[@mariavm9178]

@@andybaldman you sound fake too!

[@andybaldman]

@@mariavm9178 Well I'm very much not.

[@mariavm9178]

@@andybaldman insecure for sure! Bye!

[@sarahtiferet9025]

@@andybaldman LOL! Awww how cute another lonely pathetic Troll clearly in need of attention - there you have some - you're welcome ! You know she;s not a fake you don't even care poor baby