Karen DMCA's Group That Kicks Her Out || D&D Story

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@kasper7574
@kasper7574 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the proper retaliation wouldve been to report her clearly "illegal" wild animals in a residential area, unregulated...
@Matt-td8xw
@Matt-td8xw 3 жыл бұрын
Its like stealing something and blamming the vicmin for assault lmao
@skepticshy8481
@skepticshy8481 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-td8xw but it would work.
@MikayaAkyo
@MikayaAkyo 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. The proper retaliation would've been to report the initial Game for "stealing intellectual property" as it contained Movie and Book Characters mostly, which none of them probably owned. AND then ruin 'Camel' even more by reporting the illegal wild animals to the authorities.
@bakaichigo
@bakaichigo 3 жыл бұрын
Oh 100% that. I was JUST thinking "Yo, you have witnessed the squalid living conditions - if its unhealthy for a human there is NO WAY they're keeping animals healthily, and some are illegal... Just call in the feds" *_However, Camel has money of some type and is clearly the petty/obsessive/deluded type of power-hoarder, so that action would have been inadvisable if OP isn't able to handle further fall out._* It's possible that was never considered both to expedite "moving on" entirely from Camel and Chihuahua, and also because of fear of further obsessive reprisals. Could have caused stalker behaviors or even worse aggressions, can't blame them in the end. _I_ would have risked it, for the animal's sake, provided they were truly in poor conditions, but that's on me and I'm pretty sure that would have ended with harassment going on later A La #CreepShowArt
@WannaComment2
@WannaComment2 3 жыл бұрын
​@@MikayaAkyo Nah that's not how that works. The reason Camel was able to DMCA their game was because it was (admittedly) a quasi-copy of the original, aka "her", game. For them to DMCA camel in return, they would need to make some case as to how camel infringed on some intellectual property they own, which they can't. You can't DMCA on somebody elses behalf unless you are authorized by them, so only the copyright holders of the movies and books she lifted from could do that, and they certainly won't care.
@clericofchaos1
@clericofchaos1 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of livejournal, never heard of the kind of games he's talking about, and i've never heard of a dmca take down on anything other than youtube or twitch. Still, it's a very unusual set of characters. I feel like this could be turned into a campaign in and of itself. Maybe in call of cthulu. I mean the dirty broken down house in the middle of nowhere, the eccentric wealthy woman with exotic pets, the emotional highs and lows, and the terror of being forced into hiding...yeah, i could see it working.
@gaarathesandslayer
@gaarathesandslayer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh trust me, I've already started drafting up a character concept for this chick for my campaign. Introducing Camelia, spiteful duchess of .
@KamikazeeAliens
@KamikazeeAliens 3 жыл бұрын
@@gaarathesandslayer Duchess of "Bumbfuck Nowhere" or Duchess of "Scrapyard York"
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 3 жыл бұрын
LiveJournal was basically Tumblr before the internet was huge. (not because it wasn't popular but because nobody had any bandwidth.)
@gaarathesandslayer
@gaarathesandslayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@KamikazeeAliens Scarpyard York. Sounds fitting. I'm stealing it. Thanks
@KamikazeeAliens
@KamikazeeAliens 3 жыл бұрын
@@gaarathesandslayer no problem, I'm here all day. You can also try Scraptown York, if it sounds any better.
@Karloss00
@Karloss00 3 жыл бұрын
I mean one way they've could've moved that DMCA was to inform the copyright holders that someone was claiming ownership of those characters; then Camel would've been buried in that desert beneath a mountain of lawsuits.
@Patches2212
@Patches2212 3 жыл бұрын
Technically it was Camel who filed the lawsuit, but since Chihuahua was living with her, I get what you're saying
@rainraven9881
@rainraven9881 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 99% sure the DMCA claim technically had nothing to do with the characters being played. Instead it would've been claiming the game itself - the premise of it, the wording used in the out-of-character info pages, etc. Even if it wasn't, trying to get the copyright holders of the characters involved would've been extremely messy. Not worth the huge risk of dragging the people playing the characters into that kind of legal mess. Especially considering this likely happened during a time that it was way more common for anyone doing fanfiction (or similar things like fan RP) to find lawyers coming after them indiscriminately.
@Draco9909
@Draco9909 3 жыл бұрын
@JustDev but NO everyone wants to make sure that their "inventions" and "products" can't be directly copied or ripped off of, pft DISGUSTING! What you make is public property and if someone else wants to make money off of your ideas and determination without having to put in even the slightest bit of effort, you should let them without a moment of hesitation or consideration. Regardless of how much effort you put into making whatever you made.
@Draco9909
@Draco9909 3 жыл бұрын
@JustDev i know and look at how much obviously stolen or copied stuff is in China right now cause there copyright law is practically non existent. I won't deny that it's a more recent thing and people were just fine without it prior, BUT people who invent or create things for profit want to protect their patent and make sure no one is trying to profit off their hard work. As stupid as it seems it's to make sure that people can't just make your products regardless of what they are without permission and without paying the price for it. Also the first copyright law in the USA was made in May 31 1790 so it's more 230 years old not 100.
@Draco9909
@Draco9909 3 жыл бұрын
@JustDev 1. Okay so Disney wanted to keep the rights to the mouse, not surprising 2. A lot of people believe it or not, both corporations and regular people 3. Then please tell that to the US government cause they're still trying to win that war.
@swiftly2322
@swiftly2322 3 жыл бұрын
TLDR: fanatic RP people are 99.9% overdramatic absolute creeps.
@chronotrigger3919
@chronotrigger3919 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who used to use Wattpad for roleplays (now just writing a book), this is 110% accurate Seriously you would not believe how vain people can get.
@neptunnae
@neptunnae 3 жыл бұрын
Chrono Trigger tumblr is also terrifying, it’s a 50/50 chance of finding someone who will send you gore after the smallest conflict
@chronotrigger3919
@chronotrigger3919 3 жыл бұрын
@@neptunnae just- Internet is full of very petty, and very weird people who expose how people actually function and not the personas the put up in public.
@dizzenios1716
@dizzenios1716 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@dustydudle880
@dustydudle880 3 жыл бұрын
@@chronotrigger3919 I'd say they do it due to the lack of consequences that follow their actions.
@emilianovagnoni3397
@emilianovagnoni3397 3 жыл бұрын
To compensate the "two parts in one video" remember to leave a like folks. Thanks for your great work crit!
@CritCrab
@CritCrab 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D
@alexdraco9926
@alexdraco9926 3 жыл бұрын
I feel it's only right to log in on both my Google accounts and leave not one but two likes
@Tru_goy15
@Tru_goy15 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a plot twist! I was already prepared to wait for part 2, but I guess a good crab is always one step-in-crab-measurements ahead.
@firockfinion3326
@firockfinion3326 3 жыл бұрын
This story... It uncomfortably reminds me of circumstances I've been through before myself... Twice. The first time was certainly more like on OP's side. The second time... I can't help but wonder sometimes if some of my players view me in a similar way that the players in this story view Camel or Chihuahua. I've got a lot to think about.
@Kira110lol
@Kira110lol 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know what to tell you.. .To me personally this reeks of "One sided story". There's a few things that pile up toward my conclusion of OP lying or ... "Not sharing the whole story"... While things that support what he said don't add up at all.
@MinerGameroneinonly
@MinerGameroneinonly 3 жыл бұрын
When the person said Emu is the vile creature, Australia can relate. Australia: *war flashback*
@windy3574
@windy3574 3 жыл бұрын
Oh good, another video-- time to put this on my 'watch later' for when I drive to work tomorrow. Your vids make my 30 minute drives feel much shorter. You've definitely earned my 'Crab of the Year' award nomination ;D
@CritCrab
@CritCrab 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@NobleWolf
@NobleWolf 3 жыл бұрын
This is taking neglet to a whole new level, ambitious people often do this, they like a idea so much they put a lot of effort into it but don't take into the reality of maintaining that idea. I am a fairly new DM and I can say it takes a lot of time and work to make your own world or story for your game and it gets frustrating at times. These people in this story I just heard on this video sound like they have some serious issues with just putting any effort into anything in life.
@wonderstuck-gg
@wonderstuck-gg 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up in a household like he discribed and now like my home to be clean to the best of ability, your right. Anything fun or getting paid for they put work in but fun things their sparatic. If you have mental issues deal with them, happy things don't fix them. Clearly these two saw it as okay when in fact it's terrible. They need help and RP is only making them feel better sometimes numbing a wound that has a bullet still in it as a solution will just lead to to having the hole and void inside you bleed for much longer. Sometimes you need to feel that pain pull out the toxic peice of metal and sow it back up. These two clearly want to lesson the effects but even that is effecting other people.
@NobleWolf
@NobleWolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@wonderstuck-gg Its more complicated then that, These two in this story have no purpose that drives them in life other then just having others do it for them and taking credit. The work part is what they dont want to do but that is whats a important part of life, you work for something and you feel good that you finished it giving that sense of fulfillment. Thats a basic way of looking at it. The fulfillment without the work feels like a void.
@bjaxstriker5245
@bjaxstriker5245 3 жыл бұрын
He actually could have sent a counter-notice against the DMCA. Camel would have to declare a lawsuit against him within 14 days or else livejournal would have to put it back up. I think it’s pretty irresponsible that the site admins don’t know that. Also thank you for putting both parts in one :) .
@theanimerican
@theanimerican 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, livejournal rp drama. How nostalgic. I would like to add, though, that while there was lots of copyright infirngement going on, the bad mods would have grounds for DMCA if they just copy & paste the premise text. From what I remember, pan-fandom crossover games were a dime a dozen there, so just moving games should've been enough. Wonder if there was more to the premise than the usual games, the copyright law was just that bad, or if there was more to the story than just what we got.
@TheUnluckyEverydude
@TheUnluckyEverydude 3 жыл бұрын
3:30 "Damn girl, you live like this?"
@jasonmiller3543
@jasonmiller3543 3 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy these stories and makes me glad that I have (roughly) the same group of players since high school (20 years ago). Two of my best friends, my brother, and one of my friend's future brother-in-law. Also gotta say, loved seeing you pop in on JoCat's video! Nice polymorph!
@mydor2
@mydor2 3 жыл бұрын
IANAL: Technically the site is correct in that they cannot take sides and get in the middle of it, BUT, the DMCA provides a counter notice mechanism to claim something is not infringement. After receiving the counter notice, the site "should" put the content back up (or allow it to be restored by the account holder), then it's up to the claimant to file a suit to prove infringement.
@EvilExcalibur
@EvilExcalibur 3 жыл бұрын
What an absolute pair. They deserve each other
@tinysandwich4686
@tinysandwich4686 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could give you an extra like for sacrificing a second episode for the greater good! Thank you CritCrab!
@WaLKa767
@WaLKa767 3 жыл бұрын
Having dealt with a somewhat similar situation, it's at least nice to know it's not just me that's had to deal with that specific brand of crazy. Thank you for sharing your story.
@Darklight689
@Darklight689 3 жыл бұрын
So my understanding of dmca law is that if someone files a dmca takedown notice, you can file a dmca counter takedown notice and restore your stuff. Then it falls on the claimant to either file a copyright lawsuit or forfeit the rights to their intellectual property. If it turns out the claim was frivolous or malicious, then you can sue to reclaim costs. See Carl Benjamin vs Akilla Hughes
@Lod1989
@Lod1989 3 жыл бұрын
That is a trial from 2017, this seems to be well before that day. Also, fair use comes into play when altering it to fit into a narrative, this was done to exactly match by only changing location which is not enough for fair use. Now if they finished the plots made before hand and moved on, then it could be considered fair use as there is more added on to make it their own.
@rararasputin8608
@rararasputin8608 3 жыл бұрын
User: Rp- Me: Gonna need my Trooper beer for this one.
@Seiaeka
@Seiaeka 3 жыл бұрын
I read your username and now the song is in my head again. XD
@Shaddymaze
@Shaddymaze 3 жыл бұрын
OP: I'll be splitting this into 2 parts CritCrab: I sacrifice myself as tribute! I'll watch this video twice for the 🦀
@crabbycrab2499
@crabbycrab2499 3 жыл бұрын
Alright. An Emu being called the most vile of all birds is a travesty upon Australia. I mean, compared to the Ostrich, it is far superior in almost every fashion.
@kitashi_9971
@kitashi_9971 3 жыл бұрын
They did lose a war to them after all
@GCJACK83
@GCJACK83 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... This is one Karen that's going to rot in a federal prison cell on felony charges. A DMCA takedown request form is a federal legal document, to lie on such a form is perjury. Perjury is a felony punishable by five to ten years in prison or a $10,000.00 fine depending on what the court decides.
@Daelyah
@Daelyah 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting flashbacks to a number of things: one of them being the LARP I used to take part in, years ago. There are too many unsavory details for me to safely recall from that time; all I can say was that friendships were horribly broken, and even a marriage was destroyed. Other thing I remember was the copyright claim that was slapped against MxR Mods, years back, for him reviewing a Skyrim mod that was a collection of other mods; yet the person who did the "mod collection" practically slapped a DMCA against him, claiming that this collection of other people's mods was HER property. While I don't follow MxR as much, anymore (because he unwittingly doxxed someone on Facebook, a few months back, and his more radical fans DEFENDED him for it) I also refuse to touch any mods from the karen who tried to claim a bunch of other modders' works as hers.
@jeffnewton5881
@jeffnewton5881 3 жыл бұрын
And now they’re trying to pass a law that if you get DMCA’d you could face jail time
@xwarockx3959
@xwarockx3959 3 жыл бұрын
Then suddenly, one day, the fire nation attacked
@MikayaAkyo
@MikayaAkyo 3 жыл бұрын
Camel reminds me of the Roleplay Board i'm still a member of. The Admin of it would set ridiculous rules and regulations and be pissy about anything others brought to the game. You weren't allowed to play any character that she didn't like. Eventually she lost interest in the whole thing and the Co-Admins took over mostly, trying to keep the whole thing running, they eventually managed to contact the Head-Admin after a year of the Board dying and managed to convince her to revamp it into including more (The initial setting was a School for Non-Humans where there were Day-classes for the daytime-active species and Night-Classes for the nocturnal ones.) So it was reformed to include the surrounding City and mostly remove focus from the School-setting, degrading the School into just another facility characters could go to. My character back then started out as a Student in the Night-Class as i created her as a Demon initially (well Half-Demon specifically as i took her from another Board that was deactivated previously which was why i looked for a new one) Anyways, the Co-Admins sent out a Mail to all users that contained information and also gave a hook for re-entry. Basically it was to skip in time 2 years since the initial board's setting and detailed how more and more Non-Human species were found and the City kind of became a 'Safe' place for them to be at and also attracted them due to the Anomalies (Portals) that showed up there. Those were kind of existing in order to explain beings from entirely other worlds being there etc. As for me i decided to go ahead with the Story of my character and say that she attendet the School a year before she decided to return home since her father found out where she was and demanded her return and, since the school couldn't allow her to stay due to her being a Minor at that time, had her older sister pick her up. (It's to note she had Amnesia at the time and was under impression that said sister is her Aunt.) Her Re-Entry to the City was due to her wanting to return to School at the Academy and her father, after realizing she actually had fun there, allowing it as long as she didn't live at the School and instead lived with her 'Aunt' instead, which my character agreed to. Also she was changed from being classified as a Demon to being classified as a Hybrid. Co-Admins and me would work out that, since she wanted to conceal her identity as much as possible, she would lie about her heritage and say she's a Demon. (Which was another nod to her previous forum as there she was a Half-Demon that shared a Body with her sister and was under the impression of being the most evil Demon alive) Fast-forward a few months and the Head-Admin would return, smugly trying to get thing 'rolling' again. we later would find out that one of the players would tell her that the Board was active again and thus she returned to reap the praise for... doing nothing. The Co-Admins played it cool and didn't tick her off at all, but secretly we had created a Discord Server and constantly made remarks about how we really just wanted her to leave. Eventually she got caught up in IRL-Business and then, as the Board's activity tanked (due to her) she lost interest again. Lucky for us the Co-Admins, 1 year later, contacted the Board-Host and managed to gain FULL control over the Board as they could proove she hadn't logged in personally for a year and even a private statement from her that she wasn't interested in it anymore currently. We all questioned wether or not that was a nice move, but eventually agreed that 99% of the work wasn't done by her anyways so, why should she retain control? few months ago the now Admins annouced a big change which essentially was cutting ties with the Board-Host for good and launching a privately hosted Board instead which gave them more freedom in design and all.... and since we didn't run on the initial Account anymore, removing any chance that the previous Admin could regain any control.
@wannabehistorian371
@wannabehistorian371 3 жыл бұрын
I was only listening, and was wondering if 20 minutes really went by that quickly lol. But this, this was something alright. I wonder where the game ended up though. And what character everyone was.
@GHOST-in-the-MACHINE
@GHOST-in-the-MACHINE 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day when LiveJournal was still a thing, RPGs could survive for 5+ years. I never RPed on LJ, but on places like ProBoards and InvisionFree (now Jcink). Nowadays, play-by-post RPGs like this are lucky to see 6 months. I imagine the game went on for quite a while but ultimately died, as is the fate of all games. 🤷🏽
@TheViralInfekT
@TheViralInfekT 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that i would have dragged her to court if she could not be reasoned with. In the end she would have to pay everything because she committed a crime in issuing the bogus claim. The DMCA law is not a tool to fulfill one's personal puny grudges.
@redstoneraptor8101
@redstoneraptor8101 3 жыл бұрын
Doin’ me a heckin’ bamboozle with the two parts in one video.
@steel8231
@steel8231 3 жыл бұрын
That's not how DMCA law works, it only applies to copyright holders, Camel didn't own a copyright on the game and by extension didn't have the legal right to file a DMCA takedown. Either OP misunderstood what they were told or Live Journal is even more anti-user than KZbin.
@DBZVelena
@DBZVelena 3 жыл бұрын
or Livejournal support was incompetent.
@Robin93k
@Robin93k 3 жыл бұрын
Compared to Live Journal, KZbin is EXTREMLY Customer friendly~
@steel8231
@steel8231 3 жыл бұрын
@@DBZVelena incompetent support is part of being anti-user.
@aaront7746
@aaront7746 3 жыл бұрын
This dude’s word choice and overly melodramatic tone tells a sub-story all it’s own...
@hellsingmongrel
@hellsingmongrel 3 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty standard writing style for people in this type of rp. It's less like tabletop rpg's and more like telling novel-length stories back and forth through comment posts.
@AlanMillo87
@AlanMillo87 3 жыл бұрын
Camel sounds a lot like Jenova from the Final Fantasy house aka Jennifer Cornet from Tattle-Crime. There are many similarities with the manipulation and the obsession with roleplaying as existing fictional characters.
@jasonrustmann9876
@jasonrustmann9876 3 жыл бұрын
"Handled it as best he could" Nah dowg, i would have sent ASPCA on that dirt hole
@derekdrake8706
@derekdrake8706 3 жыл бұрын
You come into money. How short does the bus have to be to buy a bunch of exotic animals?
@megaman37456
@megaman37456 3 жыл бұрын
When Camel fails to recruit new players as OPs new game thrives: I have no interest in your failures commander, I am here on a mission of my own.
@jasonjarred5198
@jasonjarred5198 3 жыл бұрын
Never build a new relationship / friendship by using a negative foundation (eg complaining about another person, group or thing). It will ALWAYS come back to bite you. It’s tempting to do when you both hate the same thing(s), but leads to an intrinsically negative relationship and bad juju. Always focus on the positive and build on that. Just my thoughts based on this narrative. Love the channel.
@lalumpala
@lalumpala 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna get some flack for this, but, the whole story aside, OP has a writing style that really gets under my skin. The over use of big words (half of the time incorrectly) and overcompensation of "good grammar" are things that I almost exclusively experience from people who want to be viewed as the "nice/good guy" in any story they recount. I'm enjoying the story as a story, but I can't see myself buying everything that OP said happened as truth. Anyway, thanks for another good story time!
@VixDen
@VixDen 2 жыл бұрын
Camels and emus aren't actually illegal. There's a farm that makes a petting zoo out of some of their animals for part of the year. Both camels and emus (not part of the petting zoo) are part of their "farm family" as they call it. I laughed when you said those two animals specifically.
@VixDen
@VixDen 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I guess it was more op through you, but you get what I mean.
@andreiZero1
@andreiZero1 3 жыл бұрын
For this sacrifice you earned my like and subscription.
@vanzero356
@vanzero356 3 жыл бұрын
No gonna lie, once the legal stuff got involved, I immediately hit (X) Doubt.
@Stungunwol
@Stungunwol 3 жыл бұрын
Well it was literally in the video title, so you pressed X before even starting the video?
@vanzero356
@vanzero356 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stungunwol No. The first half of the video didn't touch the legality involvement, but once the actual legality explanation began which detailed the exact details, then I did. Obviously.
@Reyn_Roadstorm
@Reyn_Roadstorm 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on successfully polymorphing Evilus Maximus!!
@victorayorke7123
@victorayorke7123 2 жыл бұрын
Am running a quietly successful homebrew sf play-by-post on discord, and I once was caretaker GM for something like it on a vbulletin forum (wow im old). And one thing I've seen time and time again is that *GM is a verb!* A moderator who isn't active or trusted has no power to affect people whatsoever, and a regular player who stirs positive activity and crafts the plots will have all the authority a GM would normally ask for. If anyone's running a play-by-post and reads this, i actually recommend choosing 2-3 co-GMs by player election. You will rapidly see the creative players elevated, and the That Guys will get themselves retired through self-inflicted drama soon enough.
@storyspren
@storyspren 3 жыл бұрын
It's absurd to think that a tabletop rpg group could even be DMCA'd, what with the culture of sharing so that everyone "steals" ideas and no one's making money without streaming it
@luvondarox
@luvondarox 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your sacrifice, Master Crab!
@TheAdarkerglow
@TheAdarkerglow 3 жыл бұрын
An emu is not the worst bird. Cassowary is the most evil of bird. Also, there's a way to spite Camel. Follow her, and start taking DMCAs against her LJs. Yes, out petty.
@KumiChan2004
@KumiChan2004 9 ай бұрын
Guess back when this story occurred moving to a different site was a good deal harder than it is now.
@fadedgabe791
@fadedgabe791 3 жыл бұрын
I won't tell you personal details just what pertains to the story... here's a huge paragraph about their personal hygiene.
@misamisaa4547
@misamisaa4547 3 жыл бұрын
Video title: DMCA My brain: YMCA!
@breakfaith3031
@breakfaith3031 2 жыл бұрын
Out of respect for you putting both parts in one video I shall hit the like button twice.
@thejoonfumo2214
@thejoonfumo2214 3 жыл бұрын
So I haven't watched this yet but good vid! Edit: Almost done! Hate these people jesus christ but good vid! Edit: Finished! This was awesome! Thanks CritChad very cool!
@stickmanadventures2865
@stickmanadventures2865 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I also have not yet watched it.
@duddledeedo
@duddledeedo 3 жыл бұрын
Heads up: "suffice" rhymes with "ice".
@Slugger1990
@Slugger1990 3 жыл бұрын
yes, this. I winced a little bit.
@danieldenmon5006
@danieldenmon5006 3 жыл бұрын
At least they were brushing their teeth. Or had been. And the dog breed is probably a Xoloitzcuintle.
@devoteeofmediocrity821
@devoteeofmediocrity821 3 жыл бұрын
If I saw a go fund me for the fees for that situation, I’d send him a crisp $50 out of counter-spite .
@MegaGrassman
@MegaGrassman 3 жыл бұрын
We appreciate your sacrifice of view total for the greater good.
@hiddenlineage4296
@hiddenlineage4296 3 жыл бұрын
Dude should have reported her for all the exotic animals she had.
@denexki
@denexki 3 жыл бұрын
Wolf made the right choice to leave both camel and Chihuahua
@Vavalry
@Vavalry 3 жыл бұрын
No offense but I’m thinking this belongs in r/thatreallyhappened cause the amount of detail in this is crazy and I doubt someone could remember ALL of this.
@dariaponomarenko4974
@dariaponomarenko4974 3 жыл бұрын
>both parts Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
@aristobrat4987
@aristobrat4987 3 жыл бұрын
you ever notice how the worst type of people always have ALOT OF EXOTIC PETS , i think thats hilarious. my old roommate was a vicious bitch. she had alot of snakes
@3adgamd3r
@3adgamd3r 3 жыл бұрын
I’d have made multiple games with my copy written work, then counter sued by proxy for her attempting to steal my copyright via abuse of the DMCA
@Ideasthatsparkcuriosity
@Ideasthatsparkcuriosity 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a real one Mr. CritCrab.
@madsmller4355
@madsmller4355 3 жыл бұрын
We are no longer referring to such a spiteful woman as Karen. That is a name suited for the peaceful times of old. We now call her Amber.
@flyboy6392
@flyboy6392 3 жыл бұрын
That is suitable
@jesuschrist2268
@jesuschrist2268 3 жыл бұрын
12:42 ladies and gentleman "oragne man bad" in 2021
@samuelhorsfall3862
@samuelhorsfall3862 3 жыл бұрын
Gaslighting is the term you’re looking for.
@lucykitsune4619
@lucykitsune4619 3 жыл бұрын
If I had a job at that time, I would have sued. Working 40hrs a week at more than 50€/hour after tax, I'm confident I'd be able to afford the legal-process. Also at this point it's not about whether or not I SHOULD do it, it's about carrying on playing this game, while she can see everyone have fun and thrive without her and rob her of every way she has of trying to end that game
@gandalftheantlion
@gandalftheantlion 3 жыл бұрын
Oof the toxicity is strong with this one. Sorry, with both of them...
@AlexWaff
@AlexWaff 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, file the same paperwork against HER original game, considering it's all theft of popular characters. And then watch her explode.
@endstudios9345
@endstudios9345 3 жыл бұрын
I find it ironic that camel spit on mirrors and then acted just as horribly. What she did to her mirror reflected back on her.
@zarteraj
@zarteraj 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to know the story behind emu's being the most evil of all birds.
@jacoborourke454
@jacoborourke454 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know of the Great Emu War?
@BrotherRoga
@BrotherRoga 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacoborourke454 It's not a story the Australians would tell you.
@Deathmageddon
@Deathmageddon 3 жыл бұрын
12:38 Orange man bad lol. Textbook obsession MAGAMAGAMAGA
@silence_dais
@silence_dais 3 жыл бұрын
I always heard such games existed but always thought they were just a myth. Legit I would love to see it archived somewhere as part of internet/role-playing history. Reading it would be too much effort though and I'd lose track of what was happening.
@OrangeyChocolate
@OrangeyChocolate 3 жыл бұрын
What did Camel and Chihuahua even hope to achieve by jealously clinging to an RP board they had lost all investment in? There really are some nasty people in the world who will just try and drag others down for no real reason. Glad that OP and the other players eventually found a way to get shot of those two. They weren’t worth putting up with.
@britishshock
@britishshock 2 жыл бұрын
10:02. 17:32. Reason 862. *TO STAY SINGLE* Women don't care about you, they care about What You Can Do.
@kabla7472
@kabla7472 3 жыл бұрын
OP said the reasons for calling her Camel was clear... But I can't help thinking it wasn't because she owned some, it had to be because of all the spitting on the mirror!
@mokeimusic
@mokeimusic 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, such drama, glad I’m not in high school anymore.
@theclash24
@theclash24 3 жыл бұрын
I forsaw the cringe as soon as he mentioned leaving his state to go to another state for 2 weeks after chatting with someone over the internet. LoL
@zedorian6547
@zedorian6547 3 жыл бұрын
Camel and Chihuahua were just bitter cows that enacting some Suge Knight justice wouldn’t have fixed.
@madmadameminx
@madmadameminx 3 жыл бұрын
You pulled a sneaky on me! Thank you, CC!
@Greekphire
@Greekphire 3 жыл бұрын
OP could have easily retaliated. Camel was harassing the group. OP might of had to sacrifice a few new rooms of games but a clear pattern would get live journal to take action and if she persisted then that opens legal options too.
@misterpleasentbooks3393
@misterpleasentbooks3393 2 жыл бұрын
Op is a jackwagon.
@DarksideChaotix
@DarksideChaotix 3 жыл бұрын
If the camel stalks the forum, then just change the forum and adopt new identity
@CollyFlower192
@CollyFlower192 3 жыл бұрын
Laugh all you want, but when I heard the line "critchad here, sacrificing double the views for the greater good" I immediately tried to like the video again
@davemustang8173
@davemustang8173 3 жыл бұрын
this guy instantly lost all sympathy by using "Trumpian".
@julesfaulk-lewis4904
@julesfaulk-lewis4904 3 жыл бұрын
Emu are legal in the USA there is a lot of emu farms
@sugarfrosted2005
@sugarfrosted2005 Ай бұрын
That's not how the DMCA works? I mean I totally believe that livejournal could have a bizarrely bad policy regarding it. The onus is on the filer to make a legal response in a timely manner if the other party contests it.
@hardcorenacho1020
@hardcorenacho1020 3 жыл бұрын
If you have this much ego and go through this much trouble over a roleplaying game, cant imagine how you’ll act during serious issues
@redd_Jack340
@redd_Jack340 3 жыл бұрын
When you've never had to worry about money or food, RPGs are serious issues I guess
@seisveintiocho-x9e
@seisveintiocho-x9e Ай бұрын
Intellectual property theft does not exist. Intellectual property is not property and therefore cannot be stolen. Intellectual property is a synonym for monopoly. If I have a monopoly on apples and you produce your own apples in your own backyard then you are not guilty of theft but of monopoly infringement. If I have a monopoly on a character and you produce your own version of that character in your own story then you are not guilty of theft but of monopoly infringement. I know the term is confusing, but intellectual property has nothing to do with property law and everything with monopoly law.
@stonferen584
@stonferen584 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think this story seems greatly exagerated? I'm not saying the story didn't happen and I don't doubt someone would abuse copyright in this way but I am saying that OPs description of Camel and Chihuahua and himself seem very exagerated and fake. I'm mean the OP paints himself as an inocent naive angel while Camel is litteraly comicaly bad.
@HOLDENPOPE
@HOLDENPOPE 7 ай бұрын
Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, and the Zodiac Killer existed. Damn-near nothing is comically bad.
@viyhexe131
@viyhexe131 3 жыл бұрын
Getting treated like this from someone you were thinking of starting a relationship with must really sting.
@seldonwright4345
@seldonwright4345 3 жыл бұрын
Camel and chichiwawa will die IRL as lonly cat women
@Twisted_Code
@Twisted_Code 3 жыл бұрын
8:50 then everything changed when the animal nation attacked (Jokes aside, the way it's described, I actually have to wonder if Camel stole Chihuahua's account. Suppose I'd have to ask the person that posted that story if it's a possibility)
@bradleymartinez185
@bradleymartinez185 3 жыл бұрын
All hail the lord critcrab for the double upload
@mattozzie836
@mattozzie836 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget CritChad
@tFxApache
@tFxApache 3 жыл бұрын
Shoulda just threatened to tell the proper authorities about her exotic animals if she didn’t leave you alone. Doesn’t sound like a good situation for the animals anyways, you’d be doing them a favor.
@nCUX1699
@nCUX1699 3 жыл бұрын
I watched three times for both parts in one video. Gooooood
@Faelocke
@Faelocke 3 жыл бұрын
Props to CritChad.
@GrimmDelightsDice
@GrimmDelightsDice 3 жыл бұрын
Also this entire story has a slightly FFVII House/Andy Blake vibe
@redpyre
@redpyre 3 жыл бұрын
The minute I hear this all takes place on LiveJournal: I was there Gandalf. I was there 3000 years ago...
@DBZVelena
@DBZVelena 3 жыл бұрын
I too was there, when the russian army came and stole our land. Leaving us no choice but to migrate to other places. These young-ones don't know how lucky they are that they didn't have to go through that. the confusion, losing track of people you knew, hoping to find them again once new land was found suitable to settle on.
@corrinbielawski8035
@corrinbielawski8035 3 жыл бұрын
And to this day, they still hold the lands we once held so dear. Our posts were killed, and so many precious fandom groups died upon those shores. Truly, twas almost as bad as the Photobucket Betrayal.
@kazineverwind5267
@kazineverwind5267 3 жыл бұрын
Don't cite the Deep Magic to me. I was there when it was written.
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 3 жыл бұрын
*Vietnam flashbacks*
@manegirl93416
@manegirl93416 3 жыл бұрын
*looks at thread* Oddly enough, I get this despite only being part of, like, one big group and we just all moved to DreamWidth fairly easily.
@iododendron3416
@iododendron3416 3 жыл бұрын
'Then suddenly, one day, everything changed.' Did the Fire Nation attack?
@ninjabluefyre3815
@ninjabluefyre3815 3 жыл бұрын
The animator suffered a fatal heart attack.
@Multi476
@Multi476 3 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist: It was the Air Nomads!
@bretsheeley4034
@bretsheeley4034 3 жыл бұрын
Everything will only change on the day the Fire Nation stops attacking.
@lolmanmagee2785
@lolmanmagee2785 3 жыл бұрын
i thought this lol
@angrycup8708
@angrycup8708 3 жыл бұрын
of corse it do
@tatersalad76
@tatersalad76 3 жыл бұрын
CritCrab: *posts both parts in one video* Me: "He's the hero we need, but not the one we deserve."
@BrutusAlbion
@BrutusAlbion 3 жыл бұрын
correction: ''He's the crab we need, but not the one we deserve''
@johnwineman8060
@johnwineman8060 3 жыл бұрын
thats savage
@Crazy21Cal
@Crazy21Cal 3 жыл бұрын
CritChad
@midnightflare9879
@midnightflare9879 3 жыл бұрын
"Carefull, he's a hero!"
@BrutusAlbion
@BrutusAlbion 3 жыл бұрын
@@midnightflare9879 A hero crab! but a crab first, a hero second. Crab is the pinnacle of sea creature evolution. All Crustaceans wish to be like him and many even pretend to be one but there's only one true Crab.
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