Karen Read's Dog Bite Expert & Chloe Driver Sentencing Recap

[@CourtTV]

00:00 Closing Arguments with Vinnie Politan 01:54 Karen Read's Dog Bite Expert 16:43 Chloe Driver Sentencing Recap Watch #ClosingArguments with #VinniePolitan Weekdays at 8p/7c ONLY on Court TV. www.courttv.com/trials/closing-arguments-with-vinnie-politan/?

[@idaserrano9319]

Definitely not a tail light

[@yvettemoreel4237]

They got rid of a family dog after six years?? BS they are hiding the truth.

[@hollytalbott7291]

Then why would they wait four months after John died to rehome the dog?

[@ajahnchahrules]

@@hollytalbott7291Because it took 4 months for them to grow a brain.

[@hollytalbott7291]

Edit: Court TV did not go into any kind of depth on the Karen Read case, I just watched a different video on this, and I’m actually very impressed with the dog bite expert, as she has a lot of experience (E.R. doctor, EMT). Those injuries don’t look like any dog bites I’ve seen, maybe scratches from an dog or another animal.

[@fionafinch348]

I guess they didn't test the bite marks for dog saliva.

[@trish818]

No they didn't test them for any evidence.

[@mariee.5912]

They tested the clothes, not the body.

[@carlabraenne3469]

Why does he know the scream of a seven year old girl???? I think HE needs to be investigated and behind bars.

[@margilynn7157]

LOL, the dog is in Vermont! Well, go get a bite impression, and mystery solved.

[@kc-wk1kz]

(Unless it was another animal in the neighborhood at that time.)

[@trish818]

Unfortunately bite impression technology has been deemed as scientifically unreliable.

[@idaserrano9319]

Also if an argument happens a dog will defend the owner

[@essentiallyangelyn4420]

Post-partum depression is real. Leave it to a man to say he feels nothing for Chloe. Clueless.

[@theempath508]

She was 13 mos. old! Even if she DID have clinical PPD I don’t think a young woman like that should be acquitted and allowed to have another baby.

[@essentiallyangelyn4420]

@ I didn’t say acquit her. I merely pointed out that it’s real. And just for future discussions, I found this… Postpartum depression can last for months or even years if left untreated, with some studies showing that a significant percentage of women may still experience symptoms up to three years after giving birth; prompt assessment and treatment are highly recommended to manage the condition effectively.

[@mariee.5912]

My thoughts, too. I am not saying that Chloe has PD, but she could have.

[@OzDrDjObstruido]

I don't understand why the courts allow or use expert testimony. The opinion of every expert is decided by who is paying the bill in every instance. Therefore it is a waste of everyones time.

[@icedcelery9548]

Those scratches and bite marks are definitely a police dogs.

[@Liv-lq9jg]

There was no police dog in this case. Chloe was just a house pet but indeed a German shepherd and I believe they are from her.

[@ryanblow5260]

lol is that YOUR OPINION?? Guess you’ve NEVER owned a police dog?? They don’t just attack anyone!

[@idaserrano9319]

My daughter has been bitten they look to much like dog bite

[@leannemo7382]

Didn’t the expert think they were animal scratches? I was bitten on the leg by a dog, and the puncture & drag marks look different.

[@momsphone3812]

I am 51. I have had many dogs of several breeds. These are not dog bites. They actually look like scratches and grabbing from long nails.

[@trish818]

I had a dog bite on my arm and it looked exactly like this!

[@mariee.5912]

It might be, but all the marks are in patern of 2. What animal scratches like that

[@RosarioTayoReed]

The city is wasting millions in taxes on this litigation when they clearly have the wrong person/person's on the dock, the cops in the house are the real defendants in this case.

[@sharonharrison3611]

The defense made all the crap up and she's GUILTY!!!

[@kc-wk1kz]

The defense can't make up physics. And physics shows John was not hit by a vehicle. The defense can't make up animal bites/scratches. i will say though that i don't agree with the giant conspiracy theory. But that theory not being correct does not mean that Karen hit John. That conspiracy theory being incorrect does not prove John was hit by a vehicle, nor that Karen hit him. It could have been something that involved only John + one or two other people, or ??

[@trish818]

?? Made up the injuries? Physics didn't lie and the defense had nothing to do with the physics experts. Pull your head out of sand.

[@idaserrano9319]

Exactly why get rid of the dog they to me are full of lies they are working together

[@hollytalbott7291]

Why would they wait four months to rehome the dog if they had something to hide.

[@sharonharrison3611]

That is NOT a dog bite! It IS ROAD RASH! FROM A PERSON BEING ROLLED BY A VEHICLE!!

[@jamc666]

no amount of caps will make this true...

[@lesiam2054]

Yeah, ms. Albert is a big liar! I would never "rehome/ get rid of" my dog. Shame on her!!!!

[@coreythompsonTheOneandOnly]

I randomly pressed the wrong button and this popped up, i think you did great work Court Tv

[@dogswithjobs2531]

Remember, a dog trained in law enforcement apprehension, or in personal protection will have totally different bite marks/pattern from what is being portrayed. None of those bite marks would be fatal. 🐾🇺🇸🐕‍🦺

[@idaserrano9319]

I don’t think they should take it out because it’s valid instead of trying to just take away things that clear up something to get her locked up

[@polls2694]

This is clearly dog bites to me but why in the world dont they have a veterinarian look at it?

[@amyriddell3092]

Vets don’t treat humans

[@bornfree0507]

She wanted out because she didn’t sign up for sharing her husband. She didn’t want him raising her child.

[@soft_machine_]

He had also been manipulating her since she was a 16 yo girl

[@John-tj4up]

Are you claiming she didn't know she was in a cult? Puleeeze.

[@bellestar777]

Vinny, you’re starting to get on my nerves I haven’t seen or heard anyone except the media and cops call him a hero. That Ceo is responsible for millions of deaths due to denial letters. So watch how you phrase things it’s honestly annoying

[@joannamccaffrey2992]

That's absolutely gravel burning

[@trish818]

That looks nothing like road rash

[@margilynn7157]

I own a German Shepherd and he has a big bite, like shown in the middle of this arm. It's obvious those marks were deep, noting the deeper color of the blood of the wounds, size and shape of the bite marks. The prosecution is lying their ass off, and that's why they want this witness ousted. The evidence is very good and they know it.

[@marinamcallister572]

You killed yer baby over that CREEP

[@YogiOnline]

This man had a cult following? How?

[@stevenprice6957]

No he didn’t. His killer had now. No idea why. She killed a man slowly. It’s Americans being stupid.

[@stevenprice6957]

Those are 100% not dog bites or scratches. The amount S canine DNA from a dog with be huge. They have saturated mouths. They don’t even look like dog bites. Where the heck is the bottom jaw ? No hair on his clothes from a dog and this dog is supposed to gave attacked him. Get a grip. It’s nothing more than a defence that is trying to defend. There is more chance that big foot did those marks.

[@JeffBegbie]

John's clothes were tested, but they lost the swabs. Apparently, pig DNA was on the clothing if you watched the trial.

[@stevenprice6957]

@@JeffBegbieLol. Who told you that? Karen read haha. That’s comedy. Pig dna. Yea John has pizza for lunch with his nephew Patrick. Do you know this case at all ?

[@chadgreen5194]

Noway those are dog bites or claws. There would be alot of scratch lines lighter in blood continuing on from the initial wound. Not to mention No marks anywhere else like this on the body.

[@Ji5-24]

As to the dog bites: 1. The ME determined JO’s arm injuries as abrasions not dog bites and scratches (common injuries that would easily be determined) and the pattern appears possibly the same as the ridges of KR’s SUV taillight. 2. There were no; puncture wounds, bites, circular deep holes from canine teeth, bruising, crushed bones and no distinctive dental arch that is common in dog bites, and no abrasions or lower teeth marks to the underside of JO’s arm (so was it a dog that wears lower dentures but just didn’t have the lower dentures in that day). 3. The laboratory found no “non-human” or “canine” DNA (so was it a dog that has no saliva), nor was it reported that any animal hair was found yet his sweater would be a magnet for dog hair (so was it a bald dog that has no fur), and JO’s clothes were not ripped to shreds (so was it a dog that attacks but is careful not to damage clothes), if JO had in fact been attacked by a dog, let alone a large dog as alleged.

[@Shangori]

1. If the ME was a trained expert on dog bites for over 50 years, you might have a point. Not here, tho. 2. There were, actually. On his elbow. This came back in the trial as well and the puncture marks went through the clothing, which had those punctures as well 3. Doesn't mean much. Plus, if you're right about the clothes not being ripped to shreds, that ALSO makes it less likely for glass, the road or metal to have made the abrasions as well. You can't have it both ways. Either those abrasions are important, impactful and show what he died from, or they are irrelevant to the way he died. Make up your mind on that one, please.

[@Ji5-24]

@@Shangori Disagree with you and not going to bother myself to get into a debate. Think what you like. FKR'ers can never look at anything objectively and are so tedious to deal with. I really couldn't care less what you think or don't think. Cya 👋

[@trish818]

Except the ME did not say that at all. Dr Russell is an expert in emergency medicine, ME and dig bites. There WAS in fact puncture wounds AND damage to the hoodie as evidenced in the trial and this hearing. It's like you didn't even watch it at all.

[@Ji5-24]

@@Shangori Disagree. FKR’ers always spin it to whatever suits their narrative. Russell is not trained in dog bites, it was her interest. There are actual dog bite experts and she’s not one of them. The CW will produce one at the retrial that is going to blow Dr. R’s opinion out of the park. She’s wrong. Hence she’s changed it to suit the defense narrative. Wait until Hank finishes his cross! End of. Saying no more because you people never listen and are a waste of time imo.

[@Ji5-24]

@@trish818 Disagree. FKR’ers always spin it to whatever suits their narrative. The ME did described it like that as per the autopsy report, and as reported publicly. End of. Saying no more because you people never listen and are a waste of time imo.

[@icedcelery9548]

They need to make sure that a jury is selected unbiased . because I don't trust the judge or the cops in this case.

[@stevenprice6957]

I don’t trust the jury.

[@MariaOSullivan42]

Obvious dog bites and scratches! 4 cuts line up with dogs claws

[@stevenprice6957]

😅😅. Where’s the DNA? Wear gloves. Did he clean up his evidence. Lol

[@CJ86738]

Give me a break, she is so apparently remorseful. How many defendants do this ?? Let’s get a real , that was a low blow by the prosecutor she already got a guaranteed life sentence.

[@MrTraceuser]

She hit him. He lay there, but the dog came along and maybe tried to save him by biting him to try to wake him up. After all, he was a police dog, maybe trying to save a policeman. Those scratches would not kill anyone.

[@gregbarbeau6191]

Your comment is pure ungrounded speculation!

[@leannemo7382]

Or a coyote from the woods? But no canine or animal DNA was found in the wounds.

[@kc-wk1kz]

Yes animal bites/scratches. How could a car hit someone so hard they fly 30' but that tiny bit of damage to the arm from being hit by a vehicle? Impossible. The big conspiracy theory is wrong too imo. But John wasn't hit by a vehicle.

[@DN-kz7xl]

What happened to the dog and the cellphones of two officers?

[@John-tj4up]

Nothing happened.

[@kitoleummuelotik2411]

​@@John-tj4upmhhhmmmmm

[@jokatech]

The Karen read trial is one of the best in many years.

[@CatConsten]

Her lawyers were that's for sure.

[@vitalucas9452]

Can you imagine her financial ruin now? Must have lost her job, life savings, and house on top of all of the strain. And still going in the hole.

[@stevenprice6957]

Simple hit and run. Not sure how we got this far. Conspiracy sells.

[@roythomasVA]

Karen hitJO

[@KatieF-s3z]

Great Video summarizing everything!!!❤️💕🎉

[@LittleMissStamper]

It truly baffles me how any sane D.A would even bring charges to Karen Reid honestly. When you look at the things they want people to believe.... like they didn't wake up and rehoming their dog and the destroyed cell phones and sim cards. The list goes on and on. Its impossible to CONVICT beyond a reasonable doubt. So they shouldnt even be bringing charges

[@lcan7390]

She looks like she’s having fun in court Karen Reid guilty

[@gregbarbeau6191]

Your comment is totally without Merritt!

[@stevenprice6957]

@@gregbarbeau6191so is yours.

[@stevenprice6957]

She’s a psychopath. Enjoying the show.

[@hollytalbott7291]

Merit

[@Ji5-24]

Yes she thinks she's some sort of celebrity, when in fact she is an accused murderer. She's so vile.

[@rinaerasmus8803]

You get platform shoes and then you get the super extended platforms on the cult-leader's shoes. OMW !!!! He clearly wants to stand out, or up, whatever 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Little Napoleon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nelsona8285]

Vinnie, your legal expert that says there was no reason to get rid of the dog is a joke. The dog was in a dog fight months later where the other dog's owner was bit. If your dog bites someone and your home owner's insurance pays out, the insurance company says "get rid of the dog or we will drop your home owner insurance". The Defense knows that is the reason the Albert's no longer have the dog. Common Sense is no longer common in this country. Even our "legal experts" have decided to ignore common sense when it isn't good for ratings.

[@adriannebrown6844]

Those are dog bites. You can see the teeth marks on his arms.

[@kc-wk1kz]

Nervy of the prosecution to try to ban expert witness regarding evidence that the prosecution doesn't like. Seems unconstitutional to me as well. ''Block evidence'' smh.

[@hollytalbott7291]

Edit: Court TV did not go into it, but I watched another channel and the dog bite expert has a lot of experience with dog bites (ER doctor, EMT, etc). Because she has never testified before this case.

[@kc-wk1kz]

Yes you're right, she does have a lot of experience. And that other truly expert witness gave specific details about the factual physics that John was not hit by a vehicle. + It's pretty clear to most everyone that those are animal bites and/or scratches. It's also very good and important to have experts like those two explain so well and in such great detail.

[@John-tj4up]

​@hollytalbott7291 she's never been an expert.

[@margilynn7157]

You cannot continue to sleep when a German Shepherd starts barking. It's loud as hell, and doesn't stop until the noise is gone.

[@hollytalbott7291]

I think they didn’t wake up because there was a lot of alcohol consumed that night.

[@mac7659]

Why didnt also the neighbors wake up?

[@jrap8374]

Oh stop it! Those are dog bites and scratches.

[@stevenprice6957]

Haha. Hilarious. Is this a magic dog that leaves no hair or DNA. Lol. Stop it.

[@ryanblow5260]

Guess you’ve never owned a dog, let alone be bit by one

[@sweetiepie3359]

Why do some people stay in jail when convicted of murder and others don't have to. Bail?

[@hollytalbott7291]

Do you mean charged with murder? Often bail is given if they are deemed to not be a flight risk.

[@stevenprice6957]

Because if you are female you are likely to be treated kinder

[@hollyrochford]

Internet image search of injuries from dog attacks looks so much like that its nuts

[@monicasanfillipo3313]

My dog barks when he hears a leaf blowing in the yard 😩

[@idaserrano9319]

Thanks Vinnie

[@John-tj4up]

Vinnie is a disgrace.

[@vickialexander1528]

If this is dog bites or scratches...that is not what killed him.

[@markwilson5841]

Well if it is a dog bite/scratch where is the DNA test results to prove it. The dogs DNA would be in the dog bite/scratches. Court rooms are becoming drama rooms for views.

[@yvettemoreel4237]

If this had happened with Karen, the dog would have been barking. I have dogs, and I know they don't stay quiet they let you know something is happening. Dogs don't sleep through that. BS

[@marinamcallister572]

Dog was prob dead

[@stevenprice6957]

Karen did it. She barked like a lunatic all night.

[@hollytalbott7291]

Every dog is different.

[@yvonneballesteros2600]

I keep on saying she had Post Partam depression, I saw it with my sister, but not to that extreme.

[@unapologeticallyauthentic]

15:12 That's horrible I would not admit that in public! Court order to remove a dog's voice box? Tf?

[@msgambate88]

the dog bite lady reached out to Karen's team not the other way around. She has never testified as a dog bite expert before. The conspiracy defence is ludicrous...

[@jokatech]

What blows my mind is how with the same level of emotion everyone is " torn to pieces" over the murder of the baby and equally torn to pieces at not having the legal leeway to do exactly what the baby's mother did.

[@mariee.5912]

I love this female panelist.

[@Uncaged_cricket]

SPIRITUALLY ABUSED!

[@MistyMontenegro]

Vinnie, what was all of that when you’re off the camera lol

[@anthonp614]

Chloe the German Shepherd didnt kill OJO.... the McAlberts DID!!!! Those injuries ARE NOT from a taillight! OJO was went into 34 Fairview got into a fight with 2 or more people in the house and Chloe ATTACKED OJO and they carried or dragged OJO and put him on the lawn!

[@IMO4SHO]

A T-Rex maybe...a dog?? Not. I'd think more of a raccoon or even a bear....but as a breeder of English Cocker Spaniels, this is not a dog bite. Animal, yes...possibly.

[@MariaOSullivan42]

You need to Google dog bites

[@lesiam2054]

Agreed!!!! ​@@MariaOSullivan42

[@michellel2773]

Have you seen many German Shepherds?

[@vitalucas9452]

A Raccoon!? Holy Cow!

[@IMO4SHO]

@MariaOSullivan42 Hey....it's only my opinion

[@Ji5-24]

Coincidentally, a person named Marie Russell has been named as a defendant in a medical malpractice and negligence lawsuit filed by Daniel Cisneros in the United States District Court, Eastern District of California, 08.22.23 (Cisneros v. Muniz). Dr Russell is named Marie Russell (same spellings) and is from California.

[@hopalongchas]

Neither one of my dogs would bark at lights!!!

[@dianecharest8365]

I believe that the middle marks are from dog teeth, and the other marks look like scratch marks from same dogs claws. Chloe to be exact.

[@SirBobMarley1]

The photo need to know when it was taken , who was the photo taken by medical doctor, prior to examination the wounds facts & not opinions needs to be address on the evidence been provided.

[@andrewpelletier8032]

Whether they are dogs bites or not John was never hit by a vehicle injuries prove it i believe at this point Karen is fighting for all our civil rights and she will never get a fair trial as long as its the same judge 😢

[@dianecharest8365]

Nobody said that Chloe killed John O'Keefe.

[@stevecarty5738]

Is it not possible to get DNA from the dog, and relate it to the bite marks on the arm?

[@ryanblow5260]

So sad this lady is just out for the money!! Why do you think she REACHED OUT TO THE DEFENSE??

[@tinkerbell7978]

She doing it for FREE.

[@AndresZamudio-vt7yn]

I not expert but that is no bite dog I was bite for a dog I now how luck's like trust me!!!

[@John-tj4up]

Who cares if it's post partum depression? Many women deal with that She murdered her kid.

[@leannemo7382]

Couldn’t Karen have hit him as she left in a huff, and as John died in the snowy treed area, some coyotes (or raccoons, etc.) from the woods could have been trying to scavenge him?

[@maanmohammad8459]

The "extraterrestrial dog"😂😂😂

[@mariee.5912]

Has anyone tested to see if OJO's death was accidental? He could have fallen hitting his head, and a wild animal scratched him, or he got scratched with. bushes. They never photograph the snow to see if JO moved after being hurt.

[@vickialexander1528]

Why type of dog did the people own at the party?

[@monicasanfillipo3313]

I put money on it they was awake they was just staring out of their window and everything going on! Getting their story straight!

[@msgambate88]

no dog DNA found on body or clothing

[@gmpick9793]

Audio is terrible with these guests.

[@teebee9232]

The dog has crossed the rainbow bridge. 😢

[@Energymc2]

A dog attacked John after he was knocked down. Imo

[@kitoleummuelotik2411]

Can we have these guys on instead of Cottage cheese Kevin and the McAlberts lawyer during Reads 2025 trial? Please? Much more intelligent, unbiased, and respectable than the others. Especially cottage cheese Kevin who has absolutely NO experience in the law.

[@alicethetroll]

It is not dog bite marks - it looks like someone gouged his arm with their fingernails during a hissy fit...

[@RyanJansen-mf7wu]

Ironically enough... I still at least haven't heard of any concept to support Chloe's alleged resentment of Benyamin's other two wives... other than the unfortunate killing of Hannah taking place itself. That said, nothing mentioned of an incident of one of the other two wives happening to wake up with their tires slashed or any form of combative resentment taking place for that matter. Meanwhile, it really wouldn't be a surprise if the defendant had formed a relationship with an alleged abuser if she was indeed raped as a child (the law of attratction falling in.line so to speak...). Moreover, at least one witness claimed to have personally seen Chloe actually in the midst of making an actual escape attempt from Benyamin and his cult (it might've even been mentioned that the defendant had backed out of this group on multiple occasions, if I recall correctly...). And lastly, Benyamin at least sounds as if he could be "authoritatively capable" enough to turn his other two wives against Chloe.

[@RyanJansen-mf7wu]

And I least would've guessed anyways, that there would've been some form of undeniable physical evidence that John O'Keefe passed away as a result of being ran over by a vehicle. That said, whether it was the plow and/or the landing that primarily killed him after allegedly being hit by an SUV (I believe...), then wouldn't there be some distinct bruising or detectable tenderness of some form that is perhaps.... to help reaffirm that he was killed in such a way?

[@mamadukez55]

omg the dog killed john give me a break shes such a karen

[@angelharte764]

I was bit by our family dog. As a child and 50 years later I have scars still.. I remember what it looked like.The image's look like dog bite. Oh and my dog was a Fox tierrer.

[@theempath508]

She would likely immediately have another baby if released.

[@John-tj4up]

Nurmi tried to get Jodi Arias off.

[@amyriddell3092]

Chloe was a police dog!

[@rosiew777]

Oh Vinny. You sweet summer child 😩🙇‍♀️🫡

[@brianmanuel1202]

Did that....the dog ate my bf deal ever work out?? 😐 😅

[@rebeccamireles31]

I still think he got busted over the head with something by Karen Reed and the dog tried to get John O'Keefe out of the arms or get O'Keefe Away from somebody and fighting for his partners life thats what im thinking Karen walks away without a mark she moves the body

[@rebeccamireles31]

I think the girls moved that body together all together moving that body because of the fact that it was a big deal that other things here on other levels of insecurities here its not just that its odd because of weird things to even go after someone with suspicious names its not just that why their literally losing it or worse lies over net host or liars or illegally post online

[@rfss1715]

Karen Read accidentally backed into her boyfriend, that’s what it looks like. Was she over .08? Sounds like it. Was any of this deliberate I highly doubt that. Were others involved I don’t think so.

[@yvettemoreel4237]

Clearly the dog did this not karen OMG

[@stevenprice6957]

😱😱😱. Magic dogs without DNA aren’t real.

[@vasilikikayafas8436]

I think this Mr. Nema needs glasses. Def doesn’t have a dog. He said she worked on cases with police dogs. What do police dogs look like? A GERMAN SHEPHERD! I have one. That is a dog bite and dog scratches. Dumb a** 🙄. Prosecutor could bring in their own expert if they want. The jury has the right to see all injuries on him!

[@hollytalbott7291]

@@vasilikikayafas8436 They are not trying to exclude the injury on the arm, just the dog bite expert; with that being said, I watched a different channel and the expert has a lot of experience with dog bites (EMT, ER doctor, etc.)

[@vasilikikayafas8436]

@ I do agree, but I’m just wondering why they want to exclude the expert as opposed to getting their own. She has experience with patients that have had dog bites so I don’t see the need to exclude her.

[@mamadukez55]

drinking and heavy sleepers i agree im the same way the dog didnt that the car did

[@tirdadderakhshani1940]

COURT TV needs to recuse itself from covering the Karen Read trial. Your coverage has been ill-informed, biased, blind and frankly pathetic. Is DA Morrissey issuing your paychecks?