KATANA TOGISHI - Japanese Traditional Sword Sharpner part 2

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@kristov29
@kristov29 15 жыл бұрын
In a world of CNC machines which can stamp out ten thousand sword blanks in a day, electric polishing wheels, cost cutting at every turn and "build it to a set price" ruling every aspect of manufature, it issimply amazing to see a true craftsman at work in time honored tradition.
@Kurokubi
@Kurokubi 7 жыл бұрын
The music starting at 2:13 was almost haunting to me for some reason. Simply wonderful.
@TheSkyCries1
@TheSkyCries1 14 жыл бұрын
This man must have a lot of pride in his works, and I respect that. I think the only way that he has the patience to endure the endless hours of grinding away is the thrill of bringing out the potential of the sword he's working on.
@pannyhoze
@pannyhoze 16 жыл бұрын
To end the discussion on the superiority of traditional Japanese Hand-forged blades, Please refer to the book "The Search for Structure" by Cyril Stanley Smith, Professor Emeritus of the School of Metallurgy at MIT. His discussion of the properties of the traditional Japanese sword show that no machine can copy a hand-forged blade. The blade geometry can be replicated but that is about all a machine can do.
@indsigma
@indsigma 16 жыл бұрын
This man is truly a Master Artist !! I love this video. I wish he was in the USA so I could bring my three antique Katanas to him. この人は偽りなく巨匠である!! 私はこのビデオを愛する。 私は彼が米国にいた従って私が彼に私の3に旧式な武士の剣を持って来ることができることを望む。
@ziosin
@ziosin 15 жыл бұрын
I agree. Usually the most beautiful things are the most deadly. the Katana is no exception.
@AccordGTR
@AccordGTR 14 жыл бұрын
@halfassedfart take note how the forging process of the Japanese artisan produces a composite blade that holds its edge and resists breaking. How can you reproduce that with a CNC machine?
@Raikiribokken
@Raikiribokken 16 жыл бұрын
this guy is amazing! I've never seen such determination and perfectionism. Anyone know what he might charge for a sharpening?
@angryasian16
@angryasian16 11 жыл бұрын
does anyone know the name of the song starting at 7:00 ?
@AccordGTR
@AccordGTR 14 жыл бұрын
@halfassedfart The advantage of CNC is only consistency and accuracy in cutting, shaping and forming. How can it replicate the forging system of the Japanese sword maker for strength and durability?
@shadeth90
@shadeth90 7 жыл бұрын
I am trying to make a katana, what angles are the 4 bevels? the two on the edge (on on each side) and the 2 on the spine?
@Crim15
@Crim15 15 жыл бұрын
One of the Sword curses he talked about is that misfortune befalls when you neglect to use the sword when rightfully needed..
@AccordGTR
@AccordGTR 14 жыл бұрын
@halfassedfart No that wouldn't work either cuz you lose the strength when you CNC cut it as you will be cutting it "across the grain". The way the artisan folds the blade several times, forges and shapes the blade at the same time retains the strength of the metal. If you cut it, it will create stress points that may crack upon heavy impact. It's kinda like making carbon fiber panels - you cannot cut or drill on the material or it gets weak, the fastener holes have to be built in.
@tsgillespiejr
@tsgillespiejr 10 жыл бұрын
That part where he was talking about polishing a sword and being someone who would say "that's a great Muramasa," not "that was polished by so-and-so." Those are the words of a true craftsman. Doing what you do to make the best out of what you're crafting. Not to be noticed as the best whatever. But to make whatever the best.
@antmallett6065
@antmallett6065 10 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@RebelWrestler45
@RebelWrestler45 14 жыл бұрын
@AccordGTR Folding steel is only necessary if you have crappy, unhomogenized, impure steel; like tamahagane. First of all, steel doesn't have 'grain' in the same sense that wood does, in that it does not have direction; obviously this differs from damascus or pattern welded steels. CNC machining is done pre heat treat, and does nothing to compromise the integrity of a monosteel or laminated blade. Its great that traditional methods have been preserved, for arts sake; but not for performance.
@firefox8192
@firefox8192 15 жыл бұрын
how often should a sword be sharpened
@boatoflol
@boatoflol 14 жыл бұрын
@TheMasterSlasher Yes, also its now said that the quality wasn't so much worse than the katana, some seem to be even the same or better quality. (Not in the view of Effectiveness but just craftmanship). But a Katana is truly meant to be a piece of art at the same time. So Japanese also put a lot of effort in it, to make it look and feel perfect. Thats one of the big differences.
@charliebowen5071
@charliebowen5071 3 жыл бұрын
The part where he is sharpening the kissaki laterally!!! No pivot point. No angle correction... that is years and years and years of practice.. one stroke at an incorrect angle and the kissaki is blown out! Amazing skill
@pokermon919
@pokermon919 15 жыл бұрын
@kinla123 Yes it will if you don't maintain and keep the blade oiled, this is true with most high carbon steels.
@giraybagci8660
@giraybagci8660 9 жыл бұрын
What is he doing around 7:00 ?I mean when he started applying some sort of paint to the groove. Is that some kind of pencil;if not what is it called?
@6pakki
@6pakki 8 жыл бұрын
I think he is using a special needle, migaki-bo (hardened-steel burnishing needle) and the light just makes it look like paint.
@insanezy
@insanezy 13 жыл бұрын
what kind of stone was that little one he was useing at around 3:00
@viper2788
@viper2788 13 жыл бұрын
@TheMasterSlasher all weapons are beautiful to me ;) of course in the hands of the right person.
@Gunyo
@Gunyo 16 жыл бұрын
Usuki sensei has a three year backlog of customers to go through. It takes about 6-7 days to polish one piece for a customer, so there is a lot of man hours involved.
@RebelWrestler45
@RebelWrestler45 14 жыл бұрын
@SuperSpeedDemon18 The exact opposite is true. The actual edge, the area of the differentially tempered hamon, is the strongest and hardest past of the blade, it is also the least tough, least ductile, and most brittle. You do realize that in the clip of the katana cutting the bullet, the bullet was cast lead. I can cut cast lead with a butter knife; if it had been an AP round with a tungsten carbide penetrator, or even an fmj, the sword would have chipped or shattered, depending on the caliber
@Crim15
@Crim15 15 жыл бұрын
At 9:11, is that Honami?
@pannyhoze
@pannyhoze 16 жыл бұрын
The Katana is only about 600 years old, but it took many, many generations to develop the forging technique and to reach the apogee known as Katana. Written history has little bearing on the passage of technique and design from smith to apprentice ad infinitum.
@darkus13
@darkus13 16 жыл бұрын
I agree, but obviously you aren`t informed about the swordsmiths Muramasa or Masamune, so I won`t continue this discution, but i still have to tell you: scholars in these days couldn`t find out the way the damascus steel was made so they could never make a damscus steel sword as good as the original.
@VicariousReality7
@VicariousReality7 11 жыл бұрын
I wish there were more ceramic shapeners available on the market that are not the size of a VCR tape
@KaijinboSwordSmith
@KaijinboSwordSmith 17 жыл бұрын
i wonder how much he charges to sharpen a sword?
@bertthehost
@bertthehost 14 жыл бұрын
@kristov29 10,000 blades a day? Why dont we make a gun that shoots katana?
@RebelWrestler45
@RebelWrestler45 14 жыл бұрын
@AccordGTR Resists breaking? Traditional tamahagane katanas are known for their brittleness, and lack of ductility. The forging process is not what gives the sword its toughness or hardness; that is done in heat treat and tempering. Non stainless composite blades are archaic at best; with modern high alloy ingot, powdered, and high speed tool steels; traditional tamahagane katanas are inferior in every aspect of blade performance.
@killingmon
@killingmon 9 жыл бұрын
The image quality is terrible. I would have liked it much more if it wasn't shot with a 4mp camera.
@Aresftfun
@Aresftfun 15 жыл бұрын
I understand what he means, sometimes, you can never be acceptable of your own work, because you know it could have gone better.
@fonkyman
@fonkyman 11 жыл бұрын
polishing is like meditating i used to work in a body shop for cars and polishing shit was my favorite thing to do i whish i was a sword sharpener :)
@arpeemac
@arpeemac 11 жыл бұрын
it's called "passion" man. good for you if you have it.
@fonkyman
@fonkyman 11 жыл бұрын
i guess so thanks for the comment man
@Dreez76
@Dreez76 11 жыл бұрын
arpeemac One must have passion what what one does, or it will not be done the best way possible.
@arpeemac
@arpeemac 11 жыл бұрын
^true.
@tsgillespiejr
@tsgillespiejr 10 жыл бұрын
Bro same here I make eye glasses and nowadays there are machines that, for instance, polish the edges of lenses automatically. But I was taught the old-school way, and honestly I could stand at that buffing wheel and make an entire shift outta polishin them bastards!
@pannyhoze
@pannyhoze 16 жыл бұрын
The blades of the Merovingians and Anglo-Saxons were probably of similar quality, but that line of technology stopped 1000 years ago. In Japan, there is an unbroken tradition of 2000 years. The Katana itself, along with the unfathomable discipline of the Samurai, made for weapon technology and technique that was far superior in it's milieu to any other combination dreamed of by humans to kill other humans. The Iron deposits in Japan may have been scanty, but there were many, many good smiths.
@Rimpianto
@Rimpianto 15 жыл бұрын
@kristov29 Trust me, i am a sword maker, i don't use cnc machines but i need to use modern machinery in some processes to cut production time, there's no way to work in that way in europe or in the states. You need to establish your name before you can work completely by hand using a lot of time, or nobody wants to spend a lot of money on your works.
@althesmith
@althesmith 4 жыл бұрын
Many Japanese smiths use power hammers, for example. A big, dumb apprentice that doesn't get tired, doesn't eat and hits the same spot every time has much to recommend it.
@1x93cm
@1x93cm 16 жыл бұрын
the idea of sword fighting in japan wasn't to bang the swords together while fighting- it was 1 cut 1 kill. Not the europeans who banged away at armor or sheilds
@egkg75
@egkg75 15 жыл бұрын
I wish this guy would restore my sword.
@Perkeletricksterservantofrher
@Perkeletricksterservantofrher 2 жыл бұрын
the womman's voice is nails on chalk board like.
@idealkoci
@idealkoci 15 жыл бұрын
@ yea i undestand you but the real one from a master coasts 12000 bucks and the 20000 one is not that is better is that its old and represents histry and fights that have been made from it,, but if you wanna get a real one and feel like a samurai get one for 12000
@gabedamien
@gabedamien 11 жыл бұрын
That is only true until it is polished next. Ideally however a sword is not polished too often because it reduces the life of the sword. One reason why togishi are master craftsmen is because they take away the least amount of steel possible during a polish.
@Patostreamz
@Patostreamz 15 жыл бұрын
im 12 and what is this?
@j.m.4816
@j.m.4816 6 жыл бұрын
why not just use an angle grinder?
@amsd1231
@amsd1231 16 жыл бұрын
i thought katana was only about 1000 years old, and written history of japan has about 600 years more on that.
@charliebowen5071
@charliebowen5071 3 жыл бұрын
It may look like scraping the blade back and forth on a stone..... yet it takes 2 years to Learn how just to sit properly!!
@solid_spec
@solid_spec 15 жыл бұрын
whenever it starts to lose it's edge
@TheAchromaticVagabond
@TheAchromaticVagabond 13 жыл бұрын
@viper2788 rofl not me they can be dangerous even in the case last week i hit my foot and it bleed for lik 24min.
@001Rah
@001Rah 14 жыл бұрын
the tip of my katana looks like that its a custom blade with teeth near the hadle
@WeAreAll1111
@WeAreAll1111 14 жыл бұрын
if i go to somewhere i dont know,i would being an Ak and katana
@charliebowen5071
@charliebowen5071 3 жыл бұрын
To take a 600 year old sword that is owned by someone else that costs thousands and rub it on a brick... you got to have balls of steel!!
@AKAScooter
@AKAScooter 14 жыл бұрын
There is an inherent flaw in these swords. The more you use them, the less beautiful the are, but they need to be used, otherwise what it the point of their existence? Seems like a nasty paradox.
@nickv8334
@nickv8334 8 жыл бұрын
not really. you just use it till it can not be used anymore, than you forge a new one
@MaikNifiko
@MaikNifiko 9 жыл бұрын
Nice, but video quality is horrible...
@darkus13
@darkus13 16 жыл бұрын
Try calling a replica of a Muramasa or a Masamune "exact copies".
@GunOwnerDan
@GunOwnerDan 16 жыл бұрын
The only way you will get my swords is from my cold dead hands(just like my guns!)!
@starshock01
@starshock01 17 жыл бұрын
lol its actually cheaper to do it with a wetstone than pay someone...
@bmw335hdk
@bmw335hdk 16 жыл бұрын
However, no matter how beautifull the art in a sword is, a sword is used for killing.
@1x93cm
@1x93cm 16 жыл бұрын
irregardless- the swords were designed for different fighting styles...can we agree to that much? unless you discount the fact that they both used to hack apart people Instead of flaming me for trolling- you could have posted your knowledge on the subject instead of just saying it's bullshit so that people would be educated instead of saying what I'm saying. Enlighten us please since we obviously are ignorant
@Jason11190
@Jason11190 15 жыл бұрын
I'm an American and I agree with you,so don't be stereotypical please
@hoasjhdfiadsf
@hoasjhdfiadsf 16 жыл бұрын
haha i know
@MrsAnybodykilla
@MrsAnybodykilla 7 жыл бұрын
6:10 - 7:00 I almost could not watch. White knuckled and teeth grit.
@CappedInTheHead
@CappedInTheHead 15 жыл бұрын
every time you kill someone ;)
@bmw335hdk
@bmw335hdk 16 жыл бұрын
not was.. but is.. ;)
@crowofdeath2
@crowofdeath2 17 жыл бұрын
thats not even much considering some of there stones cost $1000 and are about the size of the tip of your finger haha
@AccordGTR
@AccordGTR 14 жыл бұрын
CNC machines to make a sword?? That's the stupidest comment yet. The whole idea of sword-making is one of tradition and artisan-ship. Oh, did anyone notice how this guy sharpens katana with his bare hands and exposed barefeet, millimeters from the razor-sharp blade? I have a couple of friends cut themselves trying to sharpen their knife or sword. Do you know how risky this is? This guy is amazing. Skills like this are past on several generations.
@kcmann4152
@kcmann4152 16 жыл бұрын
about 1500.00 american dollars i called him and talked to him direct.
@Spartan54232
@Spartan54232 16 жыл бұрын
1.00 haaa!
@Gin132456
@Gin132456 15 жыл бұрын
i would rather die by beauty than by a bullet, just sayin if i had to die, that would be the way i would die
@xydane182
@xydane182 16 жыл бұрын
was...
@Shinigami117S
@Shinigami117S 15 жыл бұрын
not sharpening... i prefer polishing.
@TheMasterSlasher
@TheMasterSlasher 15 жыл бұрын
Katanas are beautiful, but so are European swords.
@hoasjhdfiadsf
@hoasjhdfiadsf 16 жыл бұрын
lol I laugh at you
@user-ik5mw3px8n
@user-ik5mw3px8n 16 жыл бұрын
I think Japan went too far int to tradition an d culture rather thatn Warfare. Face it. In a fight a samurai need a sword that cuts and doen`t brake but not a sword that looks shiny. And can anyone tall me how would this sword look like after after a fight? This probably would be like if you take a kitchen knife and attempt to cut nails with it.
@idealkoci
@idealkoci 15 жыл бұрын
the real katana coast 12000 dollars
@wax147
@wax147 13 жыл бұрын
sharpening level: ASIAN
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