Karl Ravech on WHAT WENT WRONG for Yankees + Juan Soto’s $700M free agency?! | Get Up

[@GHOST91141]

Those Yankees fans that were holding up the Freddie Please Stop signs had my rolling laughing 😂

[@angel-f1i7s]

get rid of Boone

[@craigwheeler4760]

His last name was Cougar... To the Yankees He's Freddie Cougar!

[@cliveandries2345]

Come on Freddy enough already 😅😅 killed me too

[@stefankelly5391]

Freeman is the definition of, good things happen to good people!! Couldn't happen to a better guy

[@Udansha]

Absolutely

[@TeamTimeRiders]

Freeman was lights out. What a pickup by the dodgers of a guy who many said was at the end of his career.

[@stefankelly5391]

@TeamTimeRiders and Mike "moron" Francesca said, " Freeman would be a non-factor, if he plays at all" 🤣🤣 so happy for him, what a series!!!

[@landon4351]

The jays could have had freeman cole and ohtani but their gm is a moron

[@vince11harris]

As a Braves fan, I really miss Freddie but I’m glad that he won a World Series again 💯

[@Revenant36]

Lmao RIP to the team who pays Soto 700-800 million

[@Qrischun]

Might be the dodgers tbh

[@user-rv3fh8xi1p]

He’s overrated and has terrible defense, slow and a weak arm

[@philb.1502]

Soto plays every game, is a very high on base % guy, has power, and drives in runs. He's a very good postseason player. He fields his position well enough, and he's 26 years old. His market value will be in the 600 million range.

[@kylebaddog5084]

No one

[@gijerz90]

700 sounds about right for Uncle Steve

[@prestongrissom9287]

$800 million for a hitter. It really is true that cost does not equal value

[@20marzboy]

Dude can't field and is an ego maniac but apparently worth this much, it's crazy I don't see it he also didn't do much in the world series

[@dwaynehoward240]

Yet he helped the nats win a ring already, then send the tables to the would series with a 3 run homer. You sound dumb asf​@@20marzboy

[@jamesdebord7519]

It’s not just for playing baseball. It’s the marketing and revenue that these players bring.

[@tootspogsforever5590]

​@jamesdebord7519 not Soto!!😃

[@20marzboy]

@@jamesdebord7519 I do agree he sold jerseys in new York as a 1 year contract, but play is more of the money than anything

[@brandonstokes3393]

Soto isn’t worth near $700M. Ohtani is worth $700M because he a great hitter, base runner, and pitcher. Plus brings an entire country as an audience.

[@henrytorres1291]

Do you have Ohtani stats during World series?

[@salravioli]

@@henrytorres1291 he was injured. But he pays for himself in advertising alone.

[@Locochon1]

​@@henrytorres1291Low IQ comment

[@stefankelly5391]

@@henrytorres1291 yeah, the only difference is the Dodgers are world champions!!! And Ohtani was hurt!? Kind of a silly comparison, don't ya think??

[@chiapets2594]

They both aren't worth that much

[@Callesol-m4j]

Teoscar should be in this conversation, he was great for LA.

[@Laabby17]

Soto is not getting 700 million he’s not worth that

[@chikushodiz91]

His play this year will make him that wtf are you talking about he is entering his Peak phase 😂😂😂😂😂

[@gringobronx7670]

I agree he's not a 40HR with 30 SB guy every year he's good but not at that price

[@theoneaboveall6768]

@@gringobronx7670 someone will pay him that dont worry

[@rainbowhouse3427]

He’s a great hitter, but that’s pretty much it. I’d rather spend that money on developing players if I’m the GM. I’d pay Juan a short deal like 300 million in 5 years at max, but not long term.

[@selleos]

I get it, he's good all year but when it comes down to the playoffs, whats he done to elevate his teams in those playoff series. SDG he didn't do much in the post season. Washington seems like that was years ago. Oh wait, it was 6 years ago!

[@Kev3981]

Soto isn’t going to get 700 or 800 million. It’s going to be 500-600. Also Ohtani’s contract isn’t the “blueprint”. The only reason why he was able to do that is because he makes so much off on endorsements. You can’t expect Soto to do that smh.

[@EE-bg1de]

15 years, 600 million, 40 per season.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@EE-bg1de 15yrs 500-550 max ...

[@sw33t1337]

reports of ohtani making over 100million in endorsements this year with 2nd highest being 2mil (it wasn't soto) 😂😂 they not like him

[@keenannorris3309]

Lol. I'll take the opinion of the baseball journalist who's in contact with all the GMs and owners over yours. Soto is going to top Ohtani's deal.

[@ArizonaSquatch]

The only reason why Ohtani's contract is that way, is because of the betting scandal. The FBI has said that an unnamed SoCal MLB active superstar is/was betting on baseball. The bookie and interpreter both rolled over and gave info. MLB had covered this up and it's going to come out soon enough.

[@louisnazario7689]

On the biggest stage, Dave Roberts has defeated the Yankees twice (2004 ALCS, 2024 WS).

[@Hastur805]

LA Dodgers, baby! 2024 World Champions!!!

[@MatrixDeception722]

These talking heads are nuts. Soto is not getting 700 or 800 😂

[@jhosoi808]

😂😂😂 he is not worth that- he can’t catch in RF

[@jjTaiiwan]

Exactly lol. He’s getting 325. Yankees are so bad at business they might give him 700.

[@MatrixDeception722]

@@jjTaiiwan If you think the Yankees will be the top bidder then you haven’t been paying attention to Hal Steinbrenner. He is not his father. He isn’t a fan of baseball. He is all business and profit above winning. That’s his motivation. George was a win at all cost type of guy but not Hal. The only reason Judge is a Yankee is because he wanted to be a Yankee and decided to stay even though the Giants offered more money. Soto won’t do that. Soto is going to the highest bidder and that will be the New York Mets. That’s my prediction and at a price of 500 million plus they can have him. No one is worth that amount of money.

[@ishottheserf6715]

450

[@BrokeBoi-dk7fl]

Exactly .. Great hitter but average fielder all i can think is $450m-500m at max the team who pay him more than that are just lost their mind. Ohtani get that mega deal is because not only he's great as baseball player but also he's very marketable can't say the same about soto

[@mannytvz]

This isn’t like every other loss Aaron. This one hurt.

[@DannyP-dm1pw]

How does it hurt you? You didn't play. Fans are wild. Bro we grown men. It's not like we 12 years old anymore and believe that we had a part in the outcome. Snap out of it.

[@LabSkaterPussies]

@@DannyP-dm1pw wtf are you talking about. Your team loses in the World Series and it doesn't hurt?

[@chiapets2594]

It is

[@chiapets2594]

​@DannyP-dm1pw dude go somewhere

[@alexrobushi7043]

@@DannyP-dm1pw that’s what happens when you are a loyal sports fan. Just say you don’t watch sports and that’s it. You probably never played any sports growing up

[@good_to_be_gold8]

I know errors are part of the game. However, That's a ball you catch in your sleep.

[@MrNaturalSez]

He's not a CF. He's a DH stuck in CF.

[@high-defRJ]

When Ravech mentioned Soto will be pursued by all 30 teams, I thought of how teams like A's, Angels, Rockies, Marlins, and White Sox would be pursuing and building their team around Juan Soto.

[@eroldcroft3045]

Angels

[@genzislady3820]

Would be Funny to see Juan Sotto playing 3 years in Sacramento.

[@rainbowhouse3427]

I mean he can reunite with his old teammate Rendon and collect paycheck 😂 I mean the Angels is not a terrible destination if he wants to go to Cali again. Marlins is not terrible too nice weather etc. I wanna say Rays but those D heads doesn’t spend money 😂

[@nrox1051]

Angels owner is dumb enough to sign him.Also the Giants has a lot of money.

[@eroldcroft3045]

@nrox1051 giants is another route. I can see that

[@ginolorenzo9851]

I just hope It wasnt fixed I mean Cole was suppose to cover first base Instead of standing still. like I said I hope not

[@randolphdefreese7874]

Anyone who pays him 700 million dollars is an idiot. How is he worth more than Ohtani?he had the year he had because of Yankee stadium and that short porch.

[@marshalniel]

LOL, the Dodgers definitely didnt need another DH, because they already had one, and his name was Ohtani

[@99cent_99]

Ohtani pitching again no

[@marshalniel]

@99cent_99 Pitching and DH ing

[@Roxas-ph3te]

​​@@99cent_99 He'll play a lot more games at DH than Pitcher. They don't want him getting injured before the playoffs

[@Tony-q8r]

I didn't know ? Soto was also a top 5 elite pitcher too, while being a 50/50 MVP triple crown winning hitter and at the same time will defer his money like Ohtani!!

[@zachbishop5421]

Exactly lol ohtani Is a unicorn whos 6'4 250lbs and still goes 50/50 and has an mvp year without playing the field and on top of that when he's healthy he can go out there and be a top starter in the league plus he brings an entire country of extremely dedicated baseball fans who only have like 6 guys in the mlb to the dodgers with him 😂 soto should get maybe 450-500 without deferring the whole contract but will probably get way more and be the next guy to bankrupt a team like arod did to the rangers lol

[@melvin7804]

FIRE BOONE!!!

[@Jtownprice]

And Cashman... Hell SELL THE YANKEES HAL!!! Ain't NOWHERE AS GOOD AS YOUR DADDY!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡

[@Scotto6977]

The lack of fundamentals have been plaguing the Yankees for years now

[@LoveSportsTv83]

Yankees were lazy in those moments because they didn’t run to the ball and give that energy like the LA Dodgers players were giving. Dodgers just have better athletes.

[@johnfernandez2060]

Resign Teo, we don’t want Soto!!

[@johnsepulvedacruz6428]

Soto is not getting 700 m or 800 m bro. The franchise would be dumb af. Shohei gets it because hes the only 2 way player in history. Soto is great but not worth all that. Plus shohei literally paid his intire salary this year. Hes worth way more than soto and it aint close.

[@BrokeBoi-dk7fl]

I mean he's great hitter but average fielder i don't think he's worth the same contract like Ohtani .. Before some dumb people bring Ohtani WS stats, all you need to know that Ohtani worth that much not just because he's great at pitching, base running and hitting but also he is very marketable player right now, when you sign him you basically sign all japan and probably asian market too with him can't say the same about soto

[@joshdude1975]

The Dodgers are that good. Won in 5 even with Ohtani disappearing, imagine when he shows up? They’re the favorites for years to come

[@sergiolopez-s6s]

I don't want Soto with the Dodgers, stay in New York. Maybe the mets are the team since they are the Yankees big brother

[@alexrobushi7043]

Mets? Those losers haven’t won in 40 years

[@LuckyNeuron-ys8sy]

Soto the giants

[@SabbatarianCalvinist]

Yordan >>>>>>>> Judge. Don’t ever compare that choker to one of the best proven performers in the postseason.

[@mango2538]

i hear yordan was in cancun all this postseason. sit down

[@ishottheserf6715]

@@mango2538yordan in the postseason is statistically better than judge. 2022 yordan Alvarez was tough

[@chaleeyang]

The dodgers will be even better next year with all the injured players returning sheesh! They should win it again next year and many years to come…

[@Revenant36]

Soto doesn’t play defense well enough to make the dodgers roster.

[@alexrobushi7043]

Lmaoooooooooo acting like you’re too good for the guy who’s 3rd in mvp voting this year. Comical

[@LuckyNeuron-ys8sy]

@@alexrobushi7043well they just beat him in the World Series so. Teo isn’t as good offensively but can field better than that liability known as Soto can

[@Peter-z3b6t]

Ohtani building his case as the GOAT. Not as active in the playoffs, but his regular season heroics gave them Home field advantage in every playoff series.

[@alfonso704]

Damn did anyone notice Verdugo literally giving up on that last bat???

[@Angelina-2379]

Let Juan Soto go 700 million for one player that's too much for that price the Yankees can sign two good hitters and a good pitcher. I love what Soto did for the Yankees But 700 million I don't think it's worth it

[@WarrioroftheWest7]

400-500 million would be more reasonable

[@TripSoul10]

The Capobianco curse has started for the Yankees.

[@RonnieHuntJr-er2ro]

Glad LA brought it back home to the West Coast!!! W's up!!!!

[@bbott137]

Dont worry, Dodgers will pay him 1 mill a year for 800 years.

[@willwhite2271]

Yankees have been doing this all year but they were winning to hide the flaws. NOT AGAINST US💙♿️

[@DannyP-dm1pw]

US ? LOL Did you play? Again, fans are comical. Like you choosing a team has the outcome set. Too many emotional lesbians in sports. We don't change the course of game. Let that feminine energy die

[@dustinsirois4788]

Dude I agree with what this dude is saying. This was always going to be the worst the Dodgers are going to be. They got Ohtani and Glassnow back pitching next year. They got the other Japanese pitcher a full year in and healthy next year and I would imagine with all the Japanese and Asian money coming in due to Ohtani and and their pitcher they are all in on any and every single free agent.

[@9Volt-bp4ux]

When the yankees were up 5-0 they had a runner on first with no outs and bottom of the line up. They shoulda moved the runner over with a bunt. Next hitter hit and single. Woulda scored at 6-0 and kept the momentum. Next inning it was 5-5. They never kept momentum.

[@dre32pitt]

Not Greeny's year with the Yanks going down like this and the Jets being the Jets

[@MrNaturalSez]

"That's a shame." --Jerry Seinfeld

[@samallardyce2522]

juan soto .. welcome to the blue jays 🤩

[@craigwheeler4760]

Who here has the data? I want to know if 5 unearned runs in a single inning is a playoff record. I think it must be close.

[@NathanMoist]

The Wild Card and Divisional rounds were more exciting than the AL/NLCS and World Series.

[@Ntsej_Muag]

I smell jealousy coming from you. You mad your team didn't make it to the WS? 😂😂😂😂. Cry some more.

[@terencew7716]

Congratulations to the Dodgers!! Juan Soto will be back with the NY Yankees!!

[@MrNaturalSez]

They couldn't win with him on a bargain contract and they won't win with him on a BLOATED contract.

[@senorlovato1388]

Good obviously Dodgers don't need him..

[@kilbourn]

Let's not ignore how lazy Rizzo was fielding that ground ball. I feel like that is being overlooked.

[@pski2515]

Everyone blaming cole but rizzo should have ran that out, had plenty of time.

[@DannyP-dm1pw]

Anthony Rizzo type of dude that uses scissors to open a bag of chips

[@ishottheserf6715]

He’s washed

[@DannyP-dm1pw]

@@ishottheserf6715 He still got more money then me and nailed more ladies than all of us combined. He can retire now

[@Springbok314]

The EE needs to have this tattooed on every player’s forearm: “This is a simple game! You throw the ball! You hit the ball! You catch the ball!”

[@craigwheeler4760]

What went wrong: You kept forgetting to play defense with 2 outs!!! AND DO NOT pitch to Freddie Freeman!

[@jag5014]

And to think the Braves wouldn't give Freeman a 6 year $160M deal.

[@neelshah6528]

Soto is not getting $700m lmao, even Ohtani wouldn’t have got that much if he wasn’t also a pitcher. It’s a contract for an mvp+ace pitcher

[@every1readthis]

You can't make this up, Jomboy confirmed everyone's suspicions. The 5th inning debacled commenced almost immediately after Fat Joe was flashed on the JUMBOTRON at Yankees stadium. Sucks to be FAT JOE'd.

[@dangerzone9747]

Freddie Freeman is the national Pride of Cambodia

[@mec8690]

Ohtani is not only one of the best players in baseball but also one of the smartest. Leaves the lowly Angels for the Dodgers, then defers 97% of his salary, which the Dodgers will use to get Juan Soto (or similar), then wins a World Series in his first season with the Dodgers. Savvy!

[@jayotangs3067]

Personally I think Soto is worth 450-500max (given how he performed this postseason). Otani is worth 700m because he has multi mvps, championships, record breaking stats, he’s great playing two-way and most importantly The Dodgers know they can recoup a big portion of that Money back from Merch Sales. Otani’s Jerseys sales to Japanese followers alone was massive, not including his other Merchs.

[@King_Koolkaine]

$700M-$800M for a guy with no MVPs and no Gold Gloves?! I don’t think so 😂

[@levilively8643]

Jazz should've picked that ball from Volpe on the throw to third. You're a pro infielder. You absolutely should be able to pick that.

[@josephsong8911]

That better be 700mil over 15-20 years or else he might get laughed out of every front office in the league.

[@byhooksorbycrooks7650]

I’m an Orioles fan. Almost feel bad for the Yankees because of how heartbreaking the loss has to be. Almost. 😅

[@JonezBBQ]

My boy isn’t even close to being worth 700M. Please for the love of God do not pay him.

[@213beerow5]

No team is paying soto 700 to hit the ball, Shohei is pitching too is the excuse for his contract. Dodgers probably will offer him 450-500 , Yankees aint paying that they are cheap but maybe

[@dsanchez9703]

Hell Yeaaaaaa!

[@Heathcoatman]

What went wrong for the Yankees? They played a superior team and lost. Yankee fans posing as analysts crack me up expecting to always win.

[@RogerDawson-ko5ns]

Soto to the SERIOUS front office-ownership in Detroit! Book it!

[@eliassamson-ku9sm]

Think the AVV will be higher than Ohtani contract, but the total value of the contract will prob be 450-550 million range. I would say 500m over 10 years.

[@kevstervegas]

Soto $350-450 range is his real value, nationals offered it he didn’t want it. He brings no added value like Ohtani, any team foolish enough to sighing him for $700 deserves financial headaches

[@RAINMAKEEER]

Blame the fans. Cheered when Ohtani was injured, heckled Freeman during the Moment of Silence for Cancer and those jackasses who went for Mookie's gloves. Now how many errors on the 5th inning? Coincidence?

[@EE-bg1de]

15 years 600 Mil. 40 per season sounds about right.

[@ishottheserf6715]

15 years a little much

[@Justme0528]

That slide to 3rd, had it been the Yankees would have been runner interference. Bottom line is the errors is what beat the Yankees. Up 5-0 and blew it with the errors. Such a shame! Great baseball game ruined by stupid errors... Juan will get 500-550 10+ year type of deal, will be a Yankee and run it back. The Yankees HAS to put work in this off season if ever to beat this stacked Dodgers team. They got the 3 MVPs and multiple all stars and solid pitching. Its a flawless super team and the only way to go is to match it. Bring out your pocketbook Yankees front office! 1st things 1st, get Juan locked in long term. 2nd, drop Rizzo and release Tommy PLEASE 🙏 Try to get Torres on at least a small year deal and trade him if you have to but dont let him walk for nothing! 3rd and most important! Pitching pitching and pitching! Need a reliable bullpen to put behind cole! Teams just tee off against these pitchers you currently have! Keep Luke though! Dodgers paid in advance for this ring but run it back New York! LA got by easy with a weakened Mets team and injured Braves team but well see what the new year holds! Hold your heads up! This is only the beginning to a bright future for the Yankees!

[@markmurphy558]

What a sore loser, typical for a chump Yankees fan. Denigrating the team that embarrassed you is real classy.

[@shootingkites]

There goes the argument that Judge is more valuable than Ohtani this year because Judge plays in the outfield.

[@gguzman.24]

Can’t beat em, join em. Soto will BLEED BLUE.

[@Thanh-ph3mm]

im still shocked at how the 5th inning played out

[@nando7187]

😂😂😂 how bout just about every single thing 😂😂😂

[@coachafella]

Breaking News! Freddie just hit another HR!

[@yamamancha]

Juan Soto has an estimated $3-$5 million in annual endorsements. Shohei Ohtani is estimated at $100 million/year. All factors considered, Ohtani is underpaid. Soto, however, will never provide the value to make such a contract profitable.

[@Billy-ml1si]

What went wrong for the Yankees they went out on the field 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kota475]

Well, if the Yankees want to pay, they're free to do as they please, but considering Ohtani's influence and ability to draw crowds, I feel sorry for the team.

[@Steven-lg3zk]

So a 3 hour show only spent 7 minutes talking about the world series, and 2 of those minutes were highlights of game 5. At least they talked about the Dodgers, unlike First Take that spent the whole segement talking about the Yankees & Soto's free agency. ESPN is trash; I bet if the Yankees won SAS would have talked about the WS everyday. First Things First on FS1 spent a few days talking about the world series and covered both teams

[@Babumoshaaai]

Ohtani got paid $2 million this year, the remaining $68 million will be paid in 2034. Even if the Dodgers leave that $68 million into a low fee index fund there’s a decent chance it will double in ten years. And Ohtani will get his last $68 million in 2043. By that time with inflation it will be worth more like $18 million in 2024 money. Basketball players will probably make $150 mil a year by that time. So I don’t know why every sport contract these days are being compared to Ohtani’s. It’s one of the cheapest contract.

[@kevin-sx1iw]

Almost always the highest payroll of any MLB team, yet haven't won a WS since 09. Money well spent.

[@ishottheserf6715]

Highest really is dodgers but ya Yankees gotta fire Boone and start over

[@lestermitchell7108]

Dave Roberts, a phenomenal job using all his resources to win the World Series. Congratulations to him and the World Champions LA Dodgers 👏👏👏

[@IMadeMyYoutubeNameAge17]

This Dragonball Z ass music 😭

[@sebastianliu2009]

Soto is NOT $700 or $800 MILLION GOOD. Good luck to the team that gets him!!

[@Aih1616]

Soto’s great but I do question his defensive side of the game though. WS he costed at least r runs due to his poor defense. Didn’t compensated with his bat.

[@derreckpressley1165]

If an owner pays 800 million for Juan Soto they are wasting their money. He's a good player and he may even get better, but he's not worth that kind of payday. People don't realize that the Dodgers paid 700 million for Shohei because they were getting two free agents in one, plus (and this is the real reason) Ohtani pays for himself because now there are 120 million Japanese citizens wearing Dodger blue, buying merchandise, buy tickets to games. Ohtani is Michael Jordan in is prime in Japan and all their money is going to the Dodgers now; which is why they could also sign Shohei's friend Yamamoto to come over and pitch for 325 million. This increased revenue stream allowed the Dodgers to do this, Juan will only bring his considerable skills, but no new source of revenue for the team that pays 800 million. It will be the Texas Rangers and Alex Rodriguez situation all over again, they spent 252 million and he won a league MVP, but they couldn't afford to put any kind of team around him so they continued to finish in last place for their division until they traded him.

[@Seopy]

oh my god. the couch GM's are funny.

[@saralshrestha8249]

If any team pays Soto 700-800m like that guy says, they deserve the mediocrity that comes with it. Unless it's some crazy deferral like Ohtani's, but I don't think most players would agree to that deal.

[@ShadowFalcon19]

The Yankees revealed themselves as Never Trumper Rinos and threw the series to the Dodgers

[@bmorebob6624]

Judge also should have had that double. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jameskwon7617]

I don't under $700M to $800M for Soto. I thought Shohei's number came from the fact that he could pitch and hit, so 2 $300+M players in one person. Soto doesn't pitch. Is he really worth $700-800M?

[@johnpestano22]

i agree the dodgers are a complete team they are not built around 1-3 guys they have contributors everywhere the Yankees don't and that's the difference. the poor play fundamentals you're suppsoe to know coming into the pros and they failed. that 5th inning shouldn't have happened you're up 5-0 you should win that game.

[@dbg4154]

bronx bomber was more like a bronx diffuser.

[@coltaine503]

Is it me or do these two sound alike? Had to look at the screen to confirm who was talking.

[@user-dp5go8hr6w]

Judge should have caught that ball hit by Hernandez too

[@matthewr2906]

Soto isn’t getting 700 million. Boras doesn’t take deferred money like Ohtani did. That alone is enough reason. Soto also is not gonna be bringing in the kind of money Ohtani is that justifies that number.

[@johnofmalta]

The Yankees played the 5th inning like drunks. - John Sterling

[@Deedlit007]

I don't see how a team would pay him more than Otani, and Otani is a pitcher. But then again, lots of QB's getting more than Mahomes and some haven't even won a handful of playoffs games or been to Superbowl

[@wuxin5847]

he will go to the team who pays him the most - so how is that not possible for him to get that big contract - it has nothing to do with who you thinking he is worth or not - do you understand how free agency works - amazing how stupid the people in this comment section are -

[@stansmith-g6t]

Its Dodger's time and nothing can anything about it.

[@billsmith3182]

Keep Soto in New York so he can continue to look great hitting the ball over a 100 foot fence...Ridiculous

[@ecliqxse9591]

There’s no way Soto going to get more than Shohei Ohtani $$$$

[@user-hz4le7sq5r]

i know cole is getting heat for that poor coverage at first but if that play breaks down Rizzo has to run man c'mon its no him just the same he was literally closer to the bag

[@k.w.4068]

I hope the Yankees didn’t purposely throw this game, up 5 and lose due to errors back to back to back just seems like something purposely planned.

[@tima.478]

If I was a GM I wouldn't give Soto a ride...why would you???