Karlsson has multiple reasons to leave the Ottawa Senators

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Күн бұрын

James Gordon joins Tim and Sid to talk about the rumours circling the Senators and all the factors pushing Erik Karlsson out of Ottawa.
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@pyry1948
@pyry1948 6 жыл бұрын
Selling the Sens for a better owner would be a good thing
@jbtrains
@jbtrains 6 жыл бұрын
Pyry unless it’s quebecor buying the team.
@joer8854
@joer8854 6 жыл бұрын
Sensnet
@ethanswampp8040
@ethanswampp8040 6 жыл бұрын
Pyry HELL YEAH!
@coreyhill681
@coreyhill681 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the owner driving other people nuts
@johnnicholas5891
@johnnicholas5891 6 жыл бұрын
If the Sens do get sold I hope they stay put. As a Sabres and Bills fan we know how it feels to have your favorite sports Franchise up for sale and not know what the future holds. Relocation of a major sports Franchise effects more than the fans. Even though I’m a diehard Sabres fan I still do not want to see Sens go.
@coreyhill681
@coreyhill681 2 жыл бұрын
Me either
@lovemeascotsman2241
@lovemeascotsman2241 6 жыл бұрын
He is welcome to come to Tampa.
@nahpoli
@nahpoli 6 жыл бұрын
Eugene is the problem with the Sens!!
@brucegiles9208
@brucegiles9208 6 жыл бұрын
With us being Ottawa Senator fans, we don't know who to believe, of things being said about the Ottawa Senators, Yes Melnyk and Dorian are not that great and cheap of running the Ottawa Senators team and not like to give more money out to the Ottawa Senators, as for Eric Karlsson I would not be surprised, if he decides to go and play for another team, maybe the Tampa Bay Lightning that Eric Karlsson buddy friend plays for, even Craig Anderson wants leave the Ottawa Senators and be traded to another NHL team, but this will be his 5th NHL team that, he will br playing for, if Dorian trades him , I am not surprised if the Ottawa Senators get sold to someone else as a fresh start!
@MrFresco702
@MrFresco702 6 жыл бұрын
Vegas will suit you Erik
@Awolfx
@Awolfx 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson just needs 1 reason to leave. Melnyk.
@alexhill9509
@alexhill9509 6 жыл бұрын
Hold on hold on did he say another lockout potentialy?.... Oh yea the hall of famer bettman is still alive
@Habebandebardown
@Habebandebardown 6 жыл бұрын
If they want they can do like 10 game in Quebec this season?
@jugg2062
@jugg2062 6 жыл бұрын
Why would they do that
@darrylrashotte9731
@darrylrashotte9731 6 жыл бұрын
They should just move them there
@maxhazelwood4695
@maxhazelwood4695 6 жыл бұрын
Quebec is a worse market than Ottawa.
@Habebandebardown
@Habebandebardown 6 жыл бұрын
Max Hazelwood Québec is like Winnipeg but a little bit bigger
@Habebandebardown
@Habebandebardown 6 жыл бұрын
Max Hazelwood and how many times I have to say that market mean NOTHING
@bradbengel917
@bradbengel917 6 жыл бұрын
As a canes fan. I have no idea how the sens get moved before my hometown, Florida or Arizona. They sell it and it will be a huge mistake. My opinion only.
@logantomcik4355
@logantomcik4355 6 жыл бұрын
Ottawa needs to build the stadium in the city of Ottawa, also get a better owner, and get someone who can make a half decent trade to help the team.
@brucegiles9208
@brucegiles9208 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Logan Tomcik 100%, both Melnyk and Dorion have to be let go, but I guess Gary Bettman can't see that happening, I hate both owners, they don't know how to run a NHL team and their scrooges when it comes to not giving the Ottawa Senator players more better contracts and don't know how to make decent NHL trades, I wish there was a way to get new and better owners for the Ottawa Senators that know how to run things properly!
@Naughtism
@Naughtism 6 жыл бұрын
Going to Vancouver
@nagistratos
@nagistratos 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine Karlsson going to San Jose where they didn't want Mike Hoffman...
@drakewhittle566
@drakewhittle566 6 жыл бұрын
Actually happens.
@watcher6935
@watcher6935 6 жыл бұрын
I thought it was bad to be an Oilers fan. I bet Oilers management are so relieved this took pressure off a nightmare season there.
@thinkingjack
@thinkingjack 6 жыл бұрын
This guest reporter is about as believable as my 6 year old son after he broke a lamp
@coreyhill681
@coreyhill681 2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for Karlsson trade, Ottawa Senators wouldn't have Tim Stutzle and others, so you can be very upset but look what Ottawa has right now, Ottawa's rookies and prospects are doing amazingly good and really tearing it up and Tierney is starting to get better , what is better than that
@JOCKElNVICTUS
@JOCKElNVICTUS 6 жыл бұрын
I hope karlsson leaves tbh Really want him to find a good stable team
@quinnhughesiselite2201
@quinnhughesiselite2201 6 жыл бұрын
I just pray and hope Karlsson does not go to Vegas.
@terryorr1706
@terryorr1706 6 жыл бұрын
HughesTheGoat Karlsen to the Pens I can dream can't I LOL
@quinnhughesiselite2201
@quinnhughesiselite2201 6 жыл бұрын
Letang and Karlsson oh my gosh
@YT0091
@YT0091 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's clear the Sens are nose diving as a franchise right now. They couldn't sell out games at some ECF games in 2017 and now their captain has made it pretty clear he doesn't want to play for them.
@Zaghzackio
@Zaghzackio 6 жыл бұрын
They finna trade him to Pittsburg for Phil kessel
@terryorr1706
@terryorr1706 6 жыл бұрын
Zack Young That would be a great trade for Kessel and Letang and they add Ryan
@Stagnant_Gravy
@Stagnant_Gravy 6 жыл бұрын
Zack Young defenseman for forward?
@Zaghzackio
@Zaghzackio 6 жыл бұрын
ThePCCoasterGuy 567 ye
@mkwrockers0099
@mkwrockers0099 6 жыл бұрын
Zack Young He’s worth way more than just Kessel alone.
@David-gz4wb
@David-gz4wb 6 жыл бұрын
Bring Heatley the all star back
@RedRisotto
@RedRisotto 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson leaving = 2018-2019 will be brutal for the Sens. Avalanche end up with Jack Hughes thanks to Sens 2019 first round draft pick. Haha!
@joshualabelle2744
@joshualabelle2744 6 жыл бұрын
RedRisotto I have a feeling the sens won’t be tanking next season tho...
@sachinruparelia
@sachinruparelia 6 жыл бұрын
Sens will make the playoffs
@RedRisotto
@RedRisotto 6 жыл бұрын
A real achievement for the Sens would be if there are still in Ottawa 3 to 4 years from now.
@torontosportsfan1995
@torontosportsfan1995 6 жыл бұрын
That special guest had marbles in his mouth ummm uhh you know snlehdn uhh lol
@aidanmed1020
@aidanmed1020 6 жыл бұрын
Lucas R I think he was fine...
@MegaNuc
@MegaNuc 6 жыл бұрын
Holy S**t! Terrible to watch.
@drewdawg4203
@drewdawg4203 6 жыл бұрын
Uuummmmmm
@BigH0mie89
@BigH0mie89 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao marbles! He took forever to complete a sentence.
@stevocanuck
@stevocanuck 6 жыл бұрын
his mind moving faster than words
@belainegibsson.2082
@belainegibsson.2082 6 жыл бұрын
You can't have Tim without Sid. You can't have Sid without Tim. But when you must go without either of them, Caroline Cameron is a decent stand in.
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan 6 жыл бұрын
Be Laine Gibs, Son. Caroline is a very good replacement.
@ry4nx
@ry4nx 6 жыл бұрын
anything is better than tim and sid
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan 6 жыл бұрын
ry4nx Nah I like them both. Considering American sports media is mostly crap and we never get hockey coverage (unless you have NHL Network which I don’t), I’ll take Tim and Sid over what the US has.
@musicman76enator
@musicman76enator 6 жыл бұрын
Lol I'll bet you have a crush on Caroline. 😉
@edmontonboy99
@edmontonboy99 6 жыл бұрын
I hope he stays in Ottawa
@professorchaosX94
@professorchaosX94 6 жыл бұрын
Rumour in Edmonton is that oilers and sens had a deal worked out for karlson but karlson declined because he didn't want to go to Edmonton like most high profile players (especially defensemen). So I don't think karlson wants out of Ottawa that bad otherwise he'd be gone by now.
@penguingames6804
@penguingames6804 6 жыл бұрын
He’s going to the Panthers
@BillyBoi911
@BillyBoi911 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@snoopdogg7407
@snoopdogg7407 6 жыл бұрын
Nice joke! Lol
@korneliusparker536
@korneliusparker536 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@vegasmobydick
@vegasmobydick 6 жыл бұрын
Yep.....in a trade to acquire Hoffman.
@AdmiralAwsomeful
@AdmiralAwsomeful 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson is going to look great in grey and gold
@darrylrashotte9731
@darrylrashotte9731 6 жыл бұрын
The only people upset that the sens leave Ottawa will be the leafs and habs fans that can't afford home games
@UncleAnaesthesia
@UncleAnaesthesia 6 жыл бұрын
The media wants this so bad, but Ottawa's at the cap floor right now and we're bound to lose Anderson to a trade. So really, the Sens have ~21m to spend before the new season begins. Interesting when you consider losing Ceci, that's another 4 million off the books. For that amount, you can resign major pieces namely Karlsson for what he wants. I would resign him with McJesus money.
@drewdawg4203
@drewdawg4203 6 жыл бұрын
UncleAnaesthesia ahh I forgot about "McJesus". We gotta bring that name back
@seansopata5121
@seansopata5121 6 жыл бұрын
Anderson should be sent packing. He's clearly showing his age, but is too afraid to admit it.
@aramondehasashi3324
@aramondehasashi3324 6 жыл бұрын
Money isn't the problem, its the dumpster fire of drama around the team that will push Karlsson out.
@ThunderHockeyTFL
@ThunderHockeyTFL 6 жыл бұрын
showing his age lol? the guy had his achilles torn in half , recovered from that and last year had his ankle bone removed and play at 50-60% until the end of the year? not showing age just recovering from a surgery getting used to a fake ankle lol
@DrMcVictory
@DrMcVictory 6 жыл бұрын
If Melnyk is going to sell the Sens because of this, sell them to Quebec city pls
@joshualabelle2744
@joshualabelle2744 6 жыл бұрын
DrMcVictory I sure hope not, that would suck for all us sens fans.
@mobilepwr2
@mobilepwr2 6 жыл бұрын
If he has any sense he would try and go to the best available team because if not, he will waste away in Ottawa
@christopherperkins1894
@christopherperkins1894 6 жыл бұрын
Come to Montreal
@buddcarcook4655
@buddcarcook4655 6 жыл бұрын
Smellnik reminds me of the Ballard days in TO. Hope Karleson lands someplace good. I feel bad for sens fans.
@joshualabelle2744
@joshualabelle2744 6 жыл бұрын
I really hope Karlsson stays.
@mic01
@mic01 6 жыл бұрын
they offered him 80 million and still said no, Ottawa is a mess of a franchise time for him to leave.
@garrettpelkofer6409
@garrettpelkofer6409 6 жыл бұрын
If he doesn’t leave this offseason via trade he’s leaving next year via free agenency, it’d be wiser to get something for him
@nick_heretic
@nick_heretic 6 жыл бұрын
As a Pens fan who was pissing himself throughout that OT until well you know... I am sorry.... As a Pens fan who has lived in Las Vegas since 99’ I will have to also apologize when Karlsson is buying a house in Summerlin next month, What’s summerlin? google it, you’d want to leave Ottawa and taxes behind and play for a Team that actually made it to the final, not one that got a goal away
@ronmiller5390
@ronmiller5390 6 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Baum like the capitals
@nick_heretic
@nick_heretic 6 жыл бұрын
Ron Miller not sure what you’re getting at, next time elaborate...the capitals won the cup and beat vegas yes, no where did I mention winning the cup as the standard, I just clearly mocked every one that continues to bring up how many goals away they were from a final... are the caps trying to get Karlsson ? Are they still ? I’m confused is Karlsson stating he Wants to play for the cup champs?
@seansopata5121
@seansopata5121 6 жыл бұрын
Erik puts asses in the seats. Attendance is already down. Move Erik, and you may as well shut the doors
@nathanmandigo3945
@nathanmandigo3945 4 жыл бұрын
this is for those who sorted their comments to newest first
@Luchoveli
@Luchoveli 6 жыл бұрын
Come to Toronto we'll win the cup if we have a #1 defensemen
@jimbo21360
@jimbo21360 6 жыл бұрын
pls go to buffalo it will cure my depression
@musicman76enator
@musicman76enator 6 жыл бұрын
Time to sell the Sens AND send Karlsson to a contender.
@brucegiles9208
@brucegiles9208 6 жыл бұрын
I wish, the Ottawa Senators were sold to new owners and organization and get better players in trades!
@Noper812
@Noper812 6 жыл бұрын
Attendance began to fall as soon as Alfie was gone
@brandynmb9890
@brandynmb9890 3 жыл бұрын
Well this sure aged well
@rsm1161
@rsm1161 6 жыл бұрын
James Neal and huala for karlson please
@stevocanuck
@stevocanuck 6 жыл бұрын
Ottawa isn't a hockey crazy market like the rest of the canadian teams are. Tough times..
@joshualabelle2744
@joshualabelle2744 6 жыл бұрын
Stevo Canuck That is about as untrue a statement as you could possibly say, Ottawa is a great hockey market we have plenty of great fans here. Give us that new arena that is not 30 minutes from downtown Ottawa in lebreton and Trust me, that attendance will skyrocket.
@humanbeing4150
@humanbeing4150 6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Labelle More like 10 minutes. It's not even far from the city I've been there. Suck it up
@buddcarcook4655
@buddcarcook4655 6 жыл бұрын
Stevo Canuck you’re sniffing glue? I grew up there and there are outdoor rinks everywhere and indoor rinks. I grew up before the Sens arrived but when I go back, I see Sens jerseys all over!
@ThunderHockeyTFL
@ThunderHockeyTFL 6 жыл бұрын
ya? try driving there before and after a game in over an hour of traffic living in the east end. it takes me 15-20 minutes no traffic, maybe if you live in nepean or Kanata sure its not far but the arena isn't even in Ottawa lol
@proffeine2383
@proffeine2383 6 жыл бұрын
Is he Mike Milbury in disguise?
@timothyng3226
@timothyng3226 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson if he has to go Ottawa at least has to get a first round pick, another pick preferably a second or a prospect
@annihilationHaven
@annihilationHaven 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson's girlfriend already decided.
@danb215
@danb215 6 жыл бұрын
she's from Ottawa and don't think she would want to leave her family. Especially with what they went through with their kid Axel. If they want kids, they will be trying again sometime soon and doubt she would want to be away from family and Erik if she were to be pregnant. I think she plays a big part in his possibly staying. I hope.
@GhostlordGames
@GhostlordGames 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson to Carolina
@DrMcVictory
@DrMcVictory 6 жыл бұрын
going from the worst owner in the league to the second worst owner in the league, why would Karlsson want to go to Carolina in the first place?
@mulph7738
@mulph7738 6 жыл бұрын
i would leave
@jonas1235
@jonas1235 6 жыл бұрын
they have to be in the playoffs to make a profit
@davidfoster9285
@davidfoster9285 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson to Toronto for Gardner and a truck load of cash.
@langdonalger9219
@langdonalger9219 6 жыл бұрын
Can’t give cash in trades anymore. He’d never get traded to Toronto anyway.
@matthewbielecki8007
@matthewbielecki8007 6 жыл бұрын
if the top df goes an the goalie goes the era of this team will be bad only one playoff picture who will they pick up if they trade top an top goalie nothing can replace those players on this team
@breakaway2x
@breakaway2x 6 жыл бұрын
ah wat the hell....we might as well just add Karlsson to our team too! :) YOLO
@krusader577
@krusader577 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson to Colorado for that first round pick back+ some other b.s.. lol
@krusader577
@krusader577 6 жыл бұрын
If not l dont mind a shot at that first over all pick next season.
@plainbagel9192
@plainbagel9192 6 жыл бұрын
And Quebecor is not in on this??? Because if Bettman won’t give Quebec an expansion now is a good a time as any
@drewdawg4203
@drewdawg4203 6 жыл бұрын
I feel he should leave. He would be really generous if he stayed and he already has been for staying so long
@djsharp98
@djsharp98 6 жыл бұрын
LOL what makes these guys experts....No one truly knows what Karlsson wants.
@chrisnewby5713
@chrisnewby5713 6 жыл бұрын
This franchise will be purchased... only on the condition it will be relocated, can’t even sell out Easter conference final games cmmoonnnn Ottawa
@brucegiles9208
@brucegiles9208 6 жыл бұрын
Awhile back Melnyk the scrooge owner of the Ottawa Senators was complaining and belly aching about not enough seats were getting sold and not enough people coming out to fill those game seats, so now he says " The Ottawa Senators is my team and I am not going sell it!" when someone wanted to buy the Ottawa Senators franchise, also I remember back during the Wintertime, when the Ottawa Senators did an outdoor hockey game on Parliament Hill , Melnyk told the public " That he is thinking of selling the Ottawa Senators!" Then he changed his mind about selling the team! I just don't understand him!
@chrisnewby5713
@chrisnewby5713 6 жыл бұрын
BRUCE GILES something about his rosy cheeks tells me he’s a hard boozer, his actions don’t really say otherwise either, I don’t get him either, entertaining to watch from Edmonton though lol
@darrylrashotte9731
@darrylrashotte9731 6 жыл бұрын
The only people that would be hurt by the sens leaving Ottawa are the leafs and habs fans that can't afford to go to home games
@ThunderHockeyTFL
@ThunderHockeyTFL 6 жыл бұрын
ya and he had a liver transplant a few years ago lol DONTED BY A FAN can you believe it?
@MuIIigan
@MuIIigan 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson still has a year on his contract.....
@BaanthVir
@BaanthVir 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they'd want to move him before his contract is up because Ottawa would get absolutely nothing if they wait till his contract ends. He'd be a unrestricted agent if they did.
@Bdots44
@Bdots44 6 жыл бұрын
Potential lockout coming???
@mjc-ym9xt
@mjc-ym9xt 6 жыл бұрын
Bdots44 2020, the end of the CBA but if Seattle comes in that might not happen
@JakeShaft85
@JakeShaft85 6 жыл бұрын
In spetember 2019 both NHL and NHLPA have the option to opt out of current CBA. Last time was the 12-13 shortened season.
@DonnyDougherty
@DonnyDougherty 6 жыл бұрын
He might go to the Rangers and might very well be their next captain.
@dankmeme8849
@dankmeme8849 6 жыл бұрын
Then traded to Tampa
@iFinlander
@iFinlander 6 жыл бұрын
I hope he leaves
@shanurr
@shanurr 6 жыл бұрын
I hope your dad leaves for milk and never comes back.
@korbendallas7181
@korbendallas7181 6 жыл бұрын
Make it a shart
@XxHarounXx
@XxHarounXx 6 жыл бұрын
iFinlander as do I
@jackstronge454
@jackstronge454 6 жыл бұрын
Pls stay
@aibus320
@aibus320 6 жыл бұрын
EK 65 - Vegas
@jackalhill3400
@jackalhill3400 6 жыл бұрын
Spezza for douchene
@danrg26
@danrg26 6 жыл бұрын
jackal hill spezza is done
@tmoney9539
@tmoney9539 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t fathom how a SCF team can go down the shitter, this fast!!!
@TMBpk
@TMBpk 6 жыл бұрын
Canucks
@LucasSChiefsLightning
@LucasSChiefsLightning 6 жыл бұрын
Shahriyar Doesnt count. They made the playoffs for the next two years and their decline was perfectly natural with the aging core.
@tmoney9539
@tmoney9539 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not even about them not making the playoffs this season it’s past that. It’s all the bad stuff that has happened inside the organization, it just blows my mind.
@AceMatthew25414
@AceMatthew25414 6 жыл бұрын
One goal away... R.I.P
@roxanne1987r
@roxanne1987r 6 жыл бұрын
nooooo
@jimmykimmel7650
@jimmykimmel7650 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson goes to islanders.
@joer8854
@joer8854 6 жыл бұрын
What is it with the Islanders thinking they are getting every high end player that enters free agency?
@beazy293
@beazy293 6 жыл бұрын
If they lose Tavares for nothing you really think they wouldn't go after Karlsson as damage control?
@langdonalger9219
@langdonalger9219 6 жыл бұрын
Sure, if they give Ottawa Barzal in the deal.
@patrickkane93
@patrickkane93 6 жыл бұрын
Spankes Monster You really think if they can't sign Tarave that Karlsson is going to want to play there? No.
@Justme77400
@Justme77400 6 жыл бұрын
From one shaky franchise to another?? Highly doubtful.
@Blinsten
@Blinsten 6 жыл бұрын
Tim and sid aka leafs lover and leafs lover #2
@davidh1284
@davidh1284 6 жыл бұрын
he should leave, if thats whats best for him
@mrwilliamjoel
@mrwilliamjoel 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson to Vegas
@markbuske5026
@markbuske5026 4 жыл бұрын
Of course now we know this is all bullshit. Sid and his buddy have to have something to talk about. Everybody go back to sleep. Nothing to listen to here.
@matthiasb2078
@matthiasb2078 6 жыл бұрын
He is staying. I guarantee it
@mechurchy
@mechurchy 6 жыл бұрын
Matthias Buhrmann hahaha that’s cute
@tyingearl8133
@tyingearl8133 6 жыл бұрын
Right now, Ottawa is a shithole with that whole Hoffman thing, and of course, a small problem with Melnyk
@CO_Yeti
@CO_Yeti 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Pauli99123
@Pauli99123 6 жыл бұрын
Matthias Buhrmann why would he? I think he wants to win the cup someday
@FirstLast-sw1gx
@FirstLast-sw1gx 6 жыл бұрын
Then leaving as a free agent in a year.
@timzhang0519
@timzhang0519 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah to come to the leafs
@mic01
@mic01 6 жыл бұрын
This franchise is a mess...
@sachinruparelia
@sachinruparelia 6 жыл бұрын
He's overrated and had defensive flaws. He can score 3pts and give up 3pts in the same game.
@obionenobi8445
@obionenobi8445 6 жыл бұрын
Ottawa=no stanley cup
@paulmiodowski
@paulmiodowski 6 жыл бұрын
Nylander and Gardiner to Ottawa for this cat
@quinnhughesiselite2201
@quinnhughesiselite2201 6 жыл бұрын
Are you joking?
@danrg26
@danrg26 6 жыл бұрын
Lol its like trading bobby orr for two bags of pucks
@markdewsnap4253
@markdewsnap4253 6 жыл бұрын
TRUDEAU_SUCKS YUP You’d have to add at least marner to make that happen, and a few other picks/prospects
@MrHalo087
@MrHalo087 6 жыл бұрын
TRUDEAU_SUCKS YUP wont happen one of those guys will stay in toronto .
@Goldwing963
@Goldwing963 6 жыл бұрын
TORONTO IS CURSED AND WILL NEVER WIN DOESNT MATTER WHO THEY GET AND THAT IS GREAT TO WATCH
@Mag1c4lyfe
@Mag1c4lyfe 6 жыл бұрын
Karlsson to Toronto
@tyingearl8133
@tyingearl8133 6 жыл бұрын
AcesW I L D yeah bro
@kdubz7680
@kdubz7680 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he wants to go to a winning team 🤣
@humanbeing4150
@humanbeing4150 6 жыл бұрын
K Dubz If we can afford him
@saadsaood7192
@saadsaood7192 6 жыл бұрын
happened today lmao
@JoshMarshain
@JoshMarshain 6 жыл бұрын
André Delhaise today, I can't imagine lightning will strike twice in the same place though, although the idea of JT, Marleau and Karlsson finally getting to lift the cup after all these years does sound nice
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