The Problem With “It’s All Been Done Before” In Fashion [RANT?]

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Karolina Żebrowska

Karolina Żebrowska

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3 жыл бұрын
sorry the audio is a bit too crispy today! anyway what are your thoughts? is modern fashion boring or should it just be viewed in a different way than historical fashions? 👀
@Asia-zd1rg
@Asia-zd1rg 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly like it. Mostly cuz I always liked to dress past-like, so it's much better that people will not look at me weird for liking something like that anymore
@death-by-obsession
@death-by-obsession 3 жыл бұрын
✨ c r i s p y ✨
@bisexualantigone
@bisexualantigone 3 жыл бұрын
Different but I feel everyone has a take on an outfit or trend even if it's highly similar!!
@nailguncrouch1017
@nailguncrouch1017 3 жыл бұрын
It is difficult to view something objectively while experiencing it. So comparing modern to historical fashion may not be practical. That being said, no I don't care for modern fashion. It is not environmentally friendly.
@sitadevimuthkhod3034
@sitadevimuthkhod3034 3 жыл бұрын
I hope modern fashion becomes more environment-friendly. And yes, I lovee vintage. It's automatically visually feminine IMO
@blimibarker4089
@blimibarker4089 3 жыл бұрын
In other words, "It's all been done before" has already been done before.
@mobi4482
@mobi4482 3 жыл бұрын
Time truly is a circle
@payt00n
@payt00n 3 жыл бұрын
And that's my senior qoute now
@tzarina-alexandra9211
@tzarina-alexandra9211 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@ruben1475
@ruben1475 3 жыл бұрын
- The Book of Ecclesiastes (traditionally ascribed to Solomon) 970-931 BC
@frauwunder5097
@frauwunder5097 3 жыл бұрын
All the Teenagers saying they are wearing clothes from the late 90/early 2000 and I'm "nope! That's from the 70s!" Had the same outfits when I was 15 and at that time my mother complained that there is nothing new in fashion and she wore the same stuff when she was young ..... 🤷😩
@elizabethashley42
@elizabethashley42 3 жыл бұрын
"Then you're getting naked, and that's not fashion, that's just nature" - Meme Mom 2021
@barnes-md7mf
@barnes-md7mf 3 жыл бұрын
Its been done before, Adam and Eve did it first 😆
@bookmouse2719
@bookmouse2719 3 жыл бұрын
Iconic
@bookmouse2719
@bookmouse2719 3 жыл бұрын
@@barnes-md7mf While she was ranting, I was thinking, 'fig leaf'.
@lynnjohnson9727
@lynnjohnson9727 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 3 жыл бұрын
@@lord_xylozdoomsday959 That was Cain
@matstan3515
@matstan3515 3 жыл бұрын
The title should have been: *Immortal unsatisfied time traveler rants about modern fashion*
@orangentage
@orangentage 3 жыл бұрын
underrated comment!
@FlagCutie
@FlagCutie 3 жыл бұрын
That's it, time to bust out the metallic fabrics and psychedelic styles from the Zenon and Back to the Future movies! lol
@Hana_H
@Hana_H 3 жыл бұрын
That’s it. You’ve broken this channel down to its most basic fundaments
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 жыл бұрын
there is no modern fashion, she is speaking from ignorance look at any runway show, it's 100% vintage stuff vintage IS the fashion now
@oliviaknight1123
@oliviaknight1123 3 жыл бұрын
@@seabreeze4559 therefore she is correct, it's a good thing we all agree 😊
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 3 жыл бұрын
Karolina would know since she's been around for at least a thousand years.
@carlyjoyce2871
@carlyjoyce2871 3 жыл бұрын
When the world started, there was only Karolina and John Maclean
@Hana_H
@Hana_H 3 жыл бұрын
And also Queen Elizabeth
@carlyjoyce2871
@carlyjoyce2871 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hana_H The 3 witches that created life as we know it
@zappababe8577
@zappababe8577 3 жыл бұрын
Well, she looks good for 1021 years old!
@ns.kha29
@ns.kha29 3 жыл бұрын
Yet manages to look 26
@pj_naylor
@pj_naylor 3 жыл бұрын
Mens fashion is definitely boring these days.
@cuthbertallgood7781
@cuthbertallgood7781 3 жыл бұрын
What men's fashion? It's not just boring, it's non-existent. It's truly bizarre how men's fashion has literally normalized Casual Slob into the only acceptable look. They used to say that men's suits were a perpetual style, but the suit is almost dead. Men's fashion is so dead that even tucking in a shirt looks like overstuffed foppery (to use the old-fashioned word).
@junehoneycrisp
@junehoneycrisp 3 жыл бұрын
Men who do dress fashionably are labelled "feminine" which I will never understand
@WayToVibe
@WayToVibe 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say "What men's fashion?" but others beat me to it. I've never understood why if artists can create so many unique and amazing clothing for men to wear when drawing fiction/fantasy, why they don't fashion designers get together with them to bring interesting men's fashion to life.
@vencelistce9385
@vencelistce9385 3 жыл бұрын
As a ftm I definitely prefer menswear to women's fashion(which is inherently oppressive)
@greygryphon6881
@greygryphon6881 3 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend tried to get into sewing, because he wanted to learn to sew his own clothes, but there are almost no patterns for men, and he just kind of....gave up
@Tarikkb
@Tarikkb 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie as an art student , especially after taking art history and etc you realize how just about everything has been done and finding something actually original is extremely difficult
@marcelloa9785
@marcelloa9785 3 жыл бұрын
Yeaaz i thought the same thing, it's just recycling all over the year
@stavroulathebest
@stavroulathebest 3 жыл бұрын
The only way i see that fashion designers could come up with new concepts would be only if you literally wore abstract shapes of clothes that change drastically the way your body looks but most people are not willing to wear something that might be very wild or uncomfortable/incovenient
@RyfkahChan
@RyfkahChan 3 жыл бұрын
@@stavroulathebest i have some dusty memories of pictures from bauhaus parties in the 1920s that looked pretty much like that and i think it's also been done in the theater styles of brecht. the concepts people came up with for theatre and ballet costumes in the 1920s were incredible, lots of geometrical shapes (not like nowadays were i feel like half the time the costumes are normal contemporary, simplistic period pieces or people being naked, but maybe that's just the theatere culture around here)
@andhanwib
@andhanwib 3 жыл бұрын
And as a graphic designer who has only worked for 1 year, I have been fully resigned to the void of recycling ideas. Anything to meet the deadline.
@YedidahMVO
@YedidahMVO 3 жыл бұрын
As a graphic design student...yes, same 💔
@JSMatteson
@JSMatteson 3 жыл бұрын
“Art is never finished, only abandoned.” - Leonardo
@aylacrissman3443
@aylacrissman3443 3 жыл бұрын
Which Leonardo? Because, without a last name or description, I’m picturing a giant teen turtle saying this as he fights a dude over NYC as he fights to save some piece of art from the guy trying to steal it. And ninjas. Lots of ninjas helping steal it.
@araamahasla555
@araamahasla555 3 жыл бұрын
- Also Sayori from Doki-Doki Literature Club (before she fucking hangs herself).
@JSMatteson
@JSMatteson 3 жыл бұрын
Are the silhouettes discussed in the video examples of archetypes in Western culture that are “never finished, only abandoned?”
@R3FL3CTI0NS.
@R3FL3CTI0NS. 3 жыл бұрын
Da Vinci, children. Leonardo Da Vinci. He never finished his art lol. His own students said he didn't.
@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141
@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141 3 жыл бұрын
I mostly feel like everyone is too focused on originality on the whole. Like....have a lot of things been done? Yes. But have they all been done by YOU? Fuck no. It doesn't matter that it's been done before, because ideas aren't one-use, they're recyclable. We can go back in time and pick apart every modern trend and track it backwards until we see than nothing is original, but someone tell me exactly why WE in the 21st century cannot enjoy them now. It really doesn't matter If a piece of art isn't 100% completely original, as long as it isnt a complete carbon copy, references and interpretation and just....doing it because YOU want to, and you enjoy it is completely valid. Especially now almost every different person has their own style instead of a single dominant style, it just comes down to our own aesthetic and taste. You do you, even if someone has already done it, because yo haven't.
@raraavis7782
@raraavis7782 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it odd, how fashion used to be all about fitting in and wearing 'the newest fashion/styles', whereas now (when this is actually achievable for more people than ever), we yearn for individuality and 'expressing our personality' through our clothes? People just always want, what they can't have. Or what only a few can have, anyways. Wearing the current trends used to be a sign of wealth and status. Now that 'fast fashion' has made trendy clothes available to the masses...people who want to 'stand out' have to wear either the absolute newest trends for only a very short time or somehow deviate from current trends altogether and go minimalist or wear vintage or whatever. Edit: in case, that somehow sounds like a critic of what you wrote - it's not. I wholeheartedly agree with what you said. These were just some random thoughts, that came into my mind.
@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141
@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141 3 жыл бұрын
@@raraavis7782 oh, no, I totally agree with you, and there's definitely a certain "the grass is always greener" mentality when it comes to....basically everything, but especially fashion and the way we present ourselves. At the end if the day, it should really all be about personal expression and taste. I for one have extremely outlandish and.....kinda terrible taste. But I wear strange shit I pick up from craft shops and charity sales because it makes me feel like a million quid. The only standards I look to reach are "do I feel fabulous in this" and I just kinda go for it. Bot everyone wants to stand out, and of the people who do, fewer still want to stand out for their fashion, so I sincerely believe there will always be a way for almost anyone to stand out, because what matters is that they wear exactly what they want to Express themselves just right. Anyway, this Is a whole waffle over nothing....tldr, standards and trends are stupid, do your own thing, and if your own thing happens to be exactly the same as someone else....who cares.
@user-mv9tt4st9k
@user-mv9tt4st9k 3 жыл бұрын
This. Yes. I like it.
@reillys.1788
@reillys.1788 3 жыл бұрын
I really like your way of thinking about this!! It's refreshing. I suddenly feel inspired to go out and wear some wacky stuff just cause :)
@raraavis7782
@raraavis7782 3 жыл бұрын
@@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141 I feel you with the love for weird and possibly 'ugly' pieces of clothing. I got a couple of those, too. Sometimes it's weird 'granny' stuff, sometimes it's t-shirts from the girl's department, with 'My Little Pony' motives on them. I don't care. If I love it, it's going home with me. Even, if I have to cut off the arms, to fit into it 😄
@therealpoppinfresh
@therealpoppinfresh 3 жыл бұрын
My hope is that someday there are no "fashion trends" and that we all just wear whatever we want, regardless of the era.
@catsaresuperior43
@catsaresuperior43 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@meiysko
@meiysko 3 жыл бұрын
i feel like it will never happen, unfortunately (unless we get bored of everything)
@NoName-dx1no
@NoName-dx1no 3 жыл бұрын
@@meiysko I mean it could be possible trend cycles are getting shorter and shorter there would have to be a point where people would just give up and do whatever they want
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 жыл бұрын
that's now, there's no youth culture anymore thanks to internet copcats and subcultures
@miaomiaou_
@miaomiaou_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@seabreeze4559 exactly, everything is a subculture nowadays. What’s ironic is that wearing (or even just mimicking) a subculture’s style is extremely trendy. Anyone can wear whatever they want as long as they’re bold enough to wear it.
@MaxxSuri76
@MaxxSuri76 3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me but your make up looks particularly marvelous today. And your cat looks done with life
@mrmr4622
@mrmr4622 3 жыл бұрын
That's how most cats look 😅
@saragarofano6471
@saragarofano6471 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes priorities 😂
@mamamoyt
@mamamoyt 3 жыл бұрын
i wasn't expecting literal butts when you said, "but". 😭 glad to have you back, Filemon, we missed you! oh and you too, Meme Mother.
@multistan9650
@multistan9650 3 жыл бұрын
Lol that emoji looks kinda like jk cause it’s blurry
@jgr7487
@jgr7487 3 жыл бұрын
I was. it's almost a meme already in some KZbin cyrcles.
@MARTINREN1231
@MARTINREN1231 3 жыл бұрын
"constantly worrying about fashion is exhausting" *me, looking at my wardrobe that hasn't been updated for 10 years* :i guess im not stressing about it too much.
@SuspiciousTumbleweed
@SuspiciousTumbleweed 3 жыл бұрын
i get so annoyed at those fashion reality shows where they say something isnt "a new innovation" or that "ive seen this before". I sit there and yell at my screen like DUDE theres only so much we can do on the human form unless we start growing more heads or arms or something...
@hansc8433
@hansc8433 3 жыл бұрын
Fashion today has zero to do with being fashionable, but everything to do with revenue. It would indeed be good if people would start jumping off the bandwagon and start taking it slow again. Not only for fashion’s sake, but also for our own sake and well-being. And what about the environment?
@mrmr4622
@mrmr4622 3 жыл бұрын
Its also about being comfortable, as good as everyone looked in the 20s for example, I'd much rather wear some jeans, a t-shirt and sneakers than a full on suit, shoes and a hat.
@NoName-dx1no
@NoName-dx1no 3 жыл бұрын
I think people should dress for either comfort, longevity, what matches well with their body, and especially what makes them happy and feel true to themselves, I think people shouldn’t buy clothes just because everyone is wearing it but because they genuinely like it and can see themselves wearing it in the future or goes with the rest of their wardrobe
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 жыл бұрын
manufacturing matches consumption patterns, that's why men's fashion is slow to change meanwhile, women buy new dresses or new fabric to make them (Still consumption!) or new 'hauls' of old clothes - all "fast" CONSUMPTION PATTERNS....
@ladyjunon6305
@ladyjunon6305 3 жыл бұрын
@@seabreeze4559 While menswear is slow to change, something tells me that it's about to go through the same evolution that womenswear went through in the last 100 years, but in the timespan of 20 years.
@tink6225
@tink6225 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrmr4622 id say it was way more comfortable back then than now because they were used to it and also used better/natural materials
@QueenShireen
@QueenShireen 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest reason for the 'seen it' feeling is that we see a lot on the internet, on purpose or not.
@savannahcarlon7033
@savannahcarlon7033 3 жыл бұрын
"You can't go more minimalistic with a tank top, because then you're just naked and that's not fashion, that's just naked"
@LillibitOfHere
@LillibitOfHere 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a larger portion of the population start making their own clothing. Even if everyone is using the same patterns, the fabric and construction choices would make every place unique.
@hamsterpouches
@hamsterpouches 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh... And tbf this has sort-of started happening thanks to Etsy, that we're buying clothes from individuals not companies selling millions of copies...
@mimipeahes5848
@mimipeahes5848 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people here aren’t considering something that’s relatively new to fashion: Sneakers. It’s true to that sneakers have their own trends and revivals, but I have seen some sneakers that don’t look like anything from the past, stylistically and technologically as well.
@petrichorbones
@petrichorbones 3 жыл бұрын
true some of those things look like sci fi spaceships and cost like 600$ lol what if we made fashion to match outlandish spacey sneakers maybe that would be interesting
@nicolettalampa9650
@nicolettalampa9650 3 жыл бұрын
That tired jump off of the trend train is exactly what got me to find my own style and I think that's also why I went towards vintage. I was tired of not being able to keep up with trends and I was tired of having clothes that I'd feel uncomfortable wearing after the few months in which they were "cool"
@puggirl415
@puggirl415 2 жыл бұрын
True! I chose men's and women's overalls and coveralls as my menopause outfit/uniform 12 years ago. I wore them almost exclusively in the early 80's and loved them. Now I'm looking in the direction of making full Mexican skirts and tops a la Frida as one of my older age looks. Maybe with a bit of Iris Apfel with lots of bracelets and necklace statement pieces. I decide. I pick and choose. That's how you develop style. Also by not giving too many phucs what other people are wearing or what they think of your choices.
@evelyneca7454
@evelyneca7454 3 жыл бұрын
People: why are people today wearing outfits from the 70's and 80's and 90's??? Why is Y2K making a comeback?? Me: thriftshops are hugely popular among poor young adults and are mainly filled with fashion from those decades. Fast fashion Brands are trying to emulate that because young adults in their early 20's are their main target audience. Also, nostalgia media now widely available on streaming services made by adults who grew up in those decades and who are now leading forces in the entertainment industry, eg Stranger Things (or media from that time now available on streaming services eg Friends) have a huge cultural impact and culture always impacts fashion.
@HankaAAR
@HankaAAR 3 жыл бұрын
"thriftshops are hugely popular among poor young adults and are mainly filled with fashion from those decades" - That's definitely not it. Anything actually vintage i.e. from the 90s or earlier will be among the expensive stuff at the thrift store. Contemporary fashion is widely available and much cheaper there. People aren't too to poor to buy modern clothes, they just want to look like the people in Stranger Things, like you suggested.
@evelyneca7454
@evelyneca7454 3 жыл бұрын
@@HankaAAR I don't know where you live but where I live (Europe) there is no price difference per era. It's just stuff on racks and it all costs about the same per shop. There is only a cost difference in wether its pants or a top or a dress ect. I shop almost exclusively in thriftshops, Think Twice, Episode, Melting Pot Kilo ect. Big thriftshop chains in Europe that import from specifically the era's I mentioned from scandanavian country's and Asia, (mainly japan). I'm speaking from my own experience as a young adult and a poor student with no job. I saw and lived through the popularity rise of thriftshops among students in city's.
@annabeinglazy5580
@annabeinglazy5580 3 жыл бұрын
@@HankaAAR that highly depends on where you shop. I Shop in charity shops and Most of the stuff they have is y2k. Then 90s. With 80s there have popped Up specialised Vintage Shops, but you still find that stuff in charity shops as Part of donations. While it's Not specifically Sold as Vintage, i think the OP makes a good Point that lots of poor Young adults, especially the ones in Student cities with a good education but No Money, tend to Go for charity shops and instagran can easily Turn that into aspirational, especially with climate Change in the equation. Fast Fashion wanting to jump onto the Bandwagon makes sense. But also people wanting to look the Part but still having easy access to clothes
@rubenaalexander5007
@rubenaalexander5007 3 жыл бұрын
But tik tok kids aren't young adults
@evelyneca7454
@evelyneca7454 3 жыл бұрын
@@rubenaalexander5007 I'm not sure what you mean with this? I'm not on tiktok so I don't know how they dress or what they're into. However there are several statistics out there on the ages of tiktok's users but roughly they say the same thing. About 40% of TikTok users are aged between 16 and 24. If that is accurate then a lot of them are indeed young adults. 18 to 24 is also the target audience for fast fashion brands.
@obsessedwithart231
@obsessedwithart231 3 жыл бұрын
I’m an artist and have recently started drawing self portraits, of myself being inserted into different historical eras. You are a great inspiration to me
@sweetsandcharades8383
@sweetsandcharades8383 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds really cool!
@YedidahMVO
@YedidahMVO 3 жыл бұрын
Mind if I steal that idea? 👀
@obsessedwithart231
@obsessedwithart231 3 жыл бұрын
@@YedidahMVO Yeah of course!
@The_Super_NOVA
@The_Super_NOVA 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about average life expectancy in relation to these fashion cycles. Back when people didn't live nearly as long, fashion cycles were MUCH longer. Now that people live much longer, fashion cycles spin in the blink of an eye. Weird
@deconibe
@deconibe 3 жыл бұрын
Researching and making a historical costume is actually a part of my fashion education. It learns us reference and take little nuances to incorporate into our collection. And honestly history is full of amazing styles
@dandeliondew
@dandeliondew 3 жыл бұрын
i really liked the point about how minimalistic modern fashion is, and how by necessity it will inevitable recycle- but mostly recycle what is also minimalistic and fitting our modern tastes (so taking 90s jeans again but not 50s petticoats). that's why i'm purposely sewing historical- screw modern taste! go wild, add trimmings, flounces here and there.
@nekochadechu
@nekochadechu 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still wearing the same clothes i bought 5years ago i was surprised to see how my sisters style changed so much during that span while the only clothes i bought since then were the result of my impulsive brain on cottagecore sites at 3am
@butwhy8338
@butwhy8338 3 жыл бұрын
i think modern fashion is cool, because we’ve entered this era of a partial elimination of mainstream fashion as it has become much more socially acceptable to have your own look,,, but historical fashion STAYS winning and (i think) is a lot more interesting. current fashions are just a combination of old fashion and trying to be sexy, though i do think new fashions will evolve. maybe the fact that we’re living while modern fashion is mainstream makes it seem less important to us?? idk!! (p.s., great video!! i really like your rants which tend to be thoughtful and very respectful lmao)
@redcoatgaming4141
@redcoatgaming4141 3 жыл бұрын
A brief moment of peace from my work as it figuratively catches fire due to a party of people wanting 21 large hotdogs
@DoraG99
@DoraG99 3 жыл бұрын
"that's not fashion, that's just nature" is the best way i've ever heard to describe nudity
@Katharina-rp7iq
@Katharina-rp7iq 3 жыл бұрын
There are only so many shapes a sleeve can have, really...you just try to combine it with different things.
@SugiyamaHiromin
@SugiyamaHiromin 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, you can give one sleeve 10 different names but in the end it will still be the same shape.
@HankaAAR
@HankaAAR 3 жыл бұрын
You sure about that? My pattern drafting book with a dozen pages of sleeves says differently lol
@Nikki-db3cq
@Nikki-db3cq 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't finished the video but still saying this😅 I've noticed that a lot of the "trendy" clothes worn nowadays are, if not completely, inspired and taken from older styles and I haven't honestly seen much new stuff that hasn't already existed in the past, except for maybe crocs.
@gwenyverreking5565
@gwenyverreking5565 3 жыл бұрын
I love your profile picture 😂
@hannalowenherz4839
@hannalowenherz4839 3 жыл бұрын
Imma going to Ruin crocs for you. (cant believe I said that) are you familiar with Traditional wooden shoes from netherlands? Called clogs? 🙈
@Nikki-db3cq
@Nikki-db3cq 3 жыл бұрын
I am! But there is a big difference between crocs and clogs, no?
@tzarina-alexandra9211
@tzarina-alexandra9211 3 жыл бұрын
@@hannalowenherz4839 for some reason that first part made me laugh ))))))
@hamsterpouches
@hamsterpouches 3 жыл бұрын
Pahaha here we all are moaning that there's nothing new and sophisticated - and crocs of all things are like, ahem?
@analuciaurenabaena7222
@analuciaurenabaena7222 3 жыл бұрын
Also, your background is amazing, I love the cozy feeling, as if I had a lovely older sister that talks to me about fashion history ❤️
@HattieMcDanielonaMoon
@HattieMcDanielonaMoon 3 жыл бұрын
YESSS
@milva5732
@milva5732 3 жыл бұрын
YESSS
@Starsword333
@Starsword333 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the background is fine. It is out-of-focus just the right amount, and there is nothing distracting or jarring that is visible. It's just the inside of your house. It's a fine background.
@wingedyera
@wingedyera 3 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree... and I actually have that lovely older sister
@EnrickFall
@EnrickFall 3 жыл бұрын
UNDERRATED COMMENT!! Karolina's bedroom gives me such a cozy vintage feeling it's perfect!
@InvincibleAirman
@InvincibleAirman 3 жыл бұрын
The New Look by Dior resembles early 1900s European fashion, because that's when Dior was a child and he spent his childhood surrounded by upper class women whose style he adored and wanted to return to when he was older. At least that's what I read in a book.
@katinkaraab1964
@katinkaraab1964 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly humans want to be innovativ, but at the end of the day we're like the people of 5000 years ago but with Wi-Fi.
@Wackymushrooms
@Wackymushrooms 3 жыл бұрын
*When you live for more than 500 years and all you see is a bunch of wars, pandemics, and fashion repeating itself:* THIS IS OURAGEOUS THIS IS UNFAIR
@423adriana
@423adriana 2 жыл бұрын
*1000
@tishie42
@tishie42 3 жыл бұрын
I personally enjoy seeing new takes on fashions. I was a teenager in the 90s and now I'm 42 and my clothes are back just in time for my midlife crisis. I still have and wear clothes from high school, so I'm the pinnacle of 90s vintage fashion rn! 😂😜But seriously, even if it is all recycled, it comes with new fabrics(for good or bad) new color palettes, fun with hair and makeup, and more choices of things to wear for everyone. If one eschews being spot on trend and simply focuses on their own comfort and fashion sense, then all these recycled short cycles give everyone so many more choices. I jumped out of the fashion boat in the 90s and stayed there. I liked it, my pants covered my ass, my tops weren't spaghetti straps and my black shirts with ironic sayings never really died, or band t-shirts. Work attire is where I have had less changes. Due to classic, classy pieces that are practical and presentable are always in style. Tailored slacks and crisp white shirts, sheath dresses with cardigans, black pumps, the all important great watch, no matter the Era that inspired those, they are ever present. Unlike weird fast fashion takes on runway looks that are only appropriate for tiktok... That's just my experience living in the southwest of Arizona in the USA where we are not exactly fashion plates. We still have super nice to look at cowboys/girls/hands who haven't changed their practical fashion for---well, ever. As usual, some of these fashions are mainly for the upper echelons to parade around in since they've really nothing else to do. Poor things. No matter what though, I have to view them different, because to me, they are. I can't use a modern lens on history, and I can't use my 90s brain on fashion now. I have to view it in context and look at what was/is going on at the times.
@zuzka9680
@zuzka9680 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, the same I. I am the same aged as you and have similar expearience. I wear my 'old' clothes (which still look better as bad tailored and made from worse fabris new ones) from my late twenties and early thirties. Cotton or linen shirts, linen trousers, wide jeans (I hate that modern skinny legs style) and classic dresses. I combine it of course with some new clothes but I try to buy natural fabrics and patters which suit to me no matter what style is fancy at the time.
@tishie42
@tishie42 3 жыл бұрын
@@zuzka9680 yes! I sew most of my own clothes now for fit and fabric. Where I live it's so hot all year round that linen is my absolute favorite and cotton flannel is the warmest I need for winter.
@sweet_salad
@sweet_salad 3 жыл бұрын
*“Thats not fashion that’s just nature.”* - Karolina Żebrowska 2021
@newdudeinyoutube9431
@newdudeinyoutube9431 3 жыл бұрын
"No matter how innovative and cool an idea is, It´s an empty idea if it cannot be directly translated to mainstream fashion" - Karolina Zebrowska . That´s the key idea of the video
@Ghostofflowers
@Ghostofflowers 3 жыл бұрын
You talked about this but honestly even within some of the bigger companies and more specific fashion designers, the issue personally is that none of them push forward for some of the details of fashion. It's often still plain patterns or just one colour and it's usually just the same fabric but like in waves or just in big folds which is a bit better but I think what we all love about more historical fashion is those tiny details, the sleeves, the shape, the little patterns or frills that are added. Even say, a simple black Edwardian dress, there's usually just some details of it that make it so interesting to study because there's always added elements of pintucks or slight frills or a specific sleeve shape. Of course later on for the 20th century, it's definitely more so the specifics of silhouette, makeup and hair that really engage the difference but that's still in details. But in a way, our current fashion sort of allows for people to chose their style?? As in, we lack really stable trends and don't value it ad much today so in a way it does let some go for more diverse styles (although you'll probably still get stared at).
@seventeencarattrash
@seventeencarattrash 3 жыл бұрын
I am living for your rant videos. Meme mom never disappoints
@canned_can_chan4590
@canned_can_chan4590 3 жыл бұрын
In college i started discovering my own style and i think its also important so i dont just get dragged by fast changing trends. I used to think i HAVE to have a pair of jeans, but turns out i like skirts and other materials better. I think my style is either office lady on a day off or a girly flowery lady or just gothic lolita
@Lill2895
@Lill2895 3 жыл бұрын
At this point it seems that most people have turned to just bringing back fashion from the last 40 to 50 years. Especially since buying vintage or second hand materials and clothing is now considered "cool." Even hairstyles have come back but cut or colored more neatly/skillfully. Let's not forget that a lot of fashion designers and fast fashion companies crank out designs and ideas either appropriated from or inspired by different cultures, countries, and traditions. I like that people are taking the best parts of different fashion eras and putting it together.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but there's also rich kids refusing to do anything new and just 'slumming it' so they aren't publicly marked as rich and attacked when the economy is bad classism isn't fashion charity shops have been gentrified to the point the poor can't afford them
@UtamagUta
@UtamagUta 3 жыл бұрын
It also makes us feel REALLY old as my childhood clothes (bowl style haircuts, jeans everything, neon colors, 1997 in general) returned to fashion. Kids are literally wearing same parachute fabric lounge clothes that i dumped while cleaning my attic 🤦‍♀️
@alisonjane7068
@alisonjane7068 3 жыл бұрын
as someone who's kinda interested in fashion but is also lazy (when it comes to finding clothes) and poor, i've all but given up. finding jeans that fit / flatter me is hard enough without worrying about which styles are in / out.
@mamamommy42
@mamamommy42 3 жыл бұрын
my favorite line is "that's not fashion it's just nature" because it makes me think about the current fashion trends that revolve around the unclothed body's shape. I'm hoping i live long enough to see our current "slim thicc" body trend recreated in fashion in the future, using padding to achieve the stylish shape. nothing would make me happier than padding normalized in the mainstream again
@GuilhermePalacio
@GuilhermePalacio 3 жыл бұрын
History is a cicle. Things come and go all the time. It's like rewatching your favorite teen show after years since its end. It's like feeling that nice emotion, rediscovering a nice thing again and again.
@weronika7596
@weronika7596 3 жыл бұрын
You know, after watching Next in Fashion I do think we can still make new things- looking at for example Minju Kims Stuff there are a LOT of clothes I've never seen quite like that before. It's a shame Designer clothes are so expensive T_T
@AlexSanchez-no4lw
@AlexSanchez-no4lw 3 жыл бұрын
honestly you see a lot of interesting out-there design concepts from fashion students' graduate collections, especially from Asian fashion colleges. as for designer clothes... clothes have always historically been expensive. i would gather designer clothes nowadays are not any more unreachable to working-class people than jacquard silk was three centuries ago.
@Meg_A_Byte
@Meg_A_Byte 3 жыл бұрын
The sentence from 9:45 was the most interesting and striking of the whole video. But whatever might people say, we're still getting truly new styles every few years or decades, mostly thanks to technology. They are just not widely spread due to high cost or other reasons.
@LK-xk4nh
@LK-xk4nh 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly as time goes on i feel like a lot of people have stopped caring about fashion trends and microtrends and instead have begun looking towards creating and honing their own style. this is helpful cause it makes it so u dont overspend on clothing and don't throw out clothing. u really do this over time too, swapping out stuff over years instead of throwing ur clothes away every month. Its kind of refreshing to see :)
@louisedolloff836
@louisedolloff836 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if anything from the 1100's, 1200's had ever been recycled in more current fashion.... and then I remembered bell sleeves from the '70's and hanging in my closet now... 😆
@monimo2
@monimo2 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to imagine fashion becoming more interesting without a huge cultural shift in the way/amount we work. Americans work way too many hours and therefore don't have time to wear/be interested in complicated fashion garments. Maybe even more influential is the American cultural push towards a comfort/casual lifestyles. Our regular clothes are leggings/jeans and t-shirts is a big reflection of comfort & conformity over fashion/being interesting.
@ipsharoy7398
@ipsharoy7398 3 жыл бұрын
Meme mom back with onion rings in her ears. Cool
@roxannlegg750
@roxannlegg750 3 жыл бұрын
I cant watch a single costume drama anymore without checking out seam lines, design lines, fabric choices and what ppl would have REALISTICALLY wore. WHY oh WHY cant I just enjoy a good story anymore!!
@didimaggie7526
@didimaggie7526 3 жыл бұрын
I am loving these rants, you can tell how much work has been put into them!
@eugenie7561
@eugenie7561 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I'm so happy that old fashion trends come back to life! I'm glad to wear 80's fashion cause I freaking like it but I wasn't born yet to enjoy it! And we can wear corset or silk dress or big puffy sleeves or all at once, and isn't it amazing? We can now mash up whatever we want to create our own style, and it's not even *that* weird.
@festivalkyrie
@festivalkyrie 3 жыл бұрын
You have a great makeup!!!! 🖤 Is it me, or wearing vintage/pre vintage clothing feels so much better? Maybe it's the silhouettes, but I feel and look more put together and confident by matching clothing, instead of modern ones 😅🤣
@CherryWisienka
@CherryWisienka 3 жыл бұрын
waiting for the time galaxy leggings will be fashionable again 😩
@oddvloggers
@oddvloggers 3 жыл бұрын
The oldest kids of generation alpha will be teenagers in three years so that's when I think they're coming back. With the speed we've gone from y2k revival to mid 00s emo revival it might not even be that long.
@suemccashland
@suemccashland 3 жыл бұрын
noooo i hope they never come back in fashion so i can have ALL OF THEM
@Marielusi
@Marielusi 3 жыл бұрын
I always feel these days a new fashion trend doesn't really have a huge impact anymore as a few hundred years back. Because today you actually can wear everything. I often try 1920-30s male style outfits, but there might be a girl next to me at the bus stop wearing shorts and a crop top. So if puffed sleeves get in style again it doesn't mean you'll see every woman wearing them. And I kind of like that. The pressure is off having to follow the dress code of your time in order to not stand out and be looked at funny. (But I'm always for looking decend and respectful 😅)
@brianmccarthy5557
@brianmccarthy5557 3 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed that you could get me interested in something I normally could care less about. Maybe it's your clever editing and presentation, or that I'm interested in history, or that you are simultaneously intelligent, enthusiastic, well reasoned and funny while discussing this; or more likely all of the above that keeps my attention. Excellent work and fun! Thanks.
@hannahbee647
@hannahbee647 3 жыл бұрын
when she said "did you know that? MmMmm? mmmMMm? Mhhmmm" I felt that
@vivien5977
@vivien5977 3 жыл бұрын
Honest, if I see a drama I'm shutting my brain off. It's nice when things are accurate but I'm not going to pull my mood down by expecting it.
@malachyte_art
@malachyte_art 3 жыл бұрын
I barely understand how fashion functions in our cultures, but I sure love hearing you talk about it!
@crowfaerymori
@crowfaerymori 3 жыл бұрын
I loved when you told the fly off! The main styles I like are 50s inspired, Steampunk and cottagecore, so I'm clearly a big fan of borrowing from the past.
@analuciaurenabaena7222
@analuciaurenabaena7222 3 жыл бұрын
YES, TELL THEM!
@LucasKellis
@LucasKellis 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, been going through some wicked bronchitis, and binging meme mom vids has been quite a welcome remedy once my brain is done with reading.
@WayToVibe
@WayToVibe 3 жыл бұрын
This is why you just buy well-made pieces that look amazing on you, maybe with a bit of tailoring. Tailoring is surprisingly cheap, with most hem/cuff shortening running $8-10 in my city. Steering away from polyester (which looks like the plastic that it is after a few washes) and other synthetic fabrics is going to make you pay more money. However, your linen shirt that costs $60 is going to last you for 30 years because linen is durable, breathable, and comfortable. Polyester tends to tap out (literally frays apart and dry rots) within 10 years. Paying $2 a year to own quality is worth it.
@NamiNuitsuki
@NamiNuitsuki 3 жыл бұрын
That's assuming you own that one shirt and only that one shirt which most people don't do. You need something casual and something formal and most people want more than one shirt so they can wear something else sometimes. All this to say that it is MUCH more expensive than $2 a year for good clothes, that's not even factoring in pants and shoes. Sure, a $60 shirt made of good material is more likely to last long but be real, who realistically has $60 to burn on clothes?
@mazayashah213
@mazayashah213 3 жыл бұрын
And the sad thing I learned after mold attacked my room is that the mold will eat my linen and cotton stuff. I really only have linen if it's thrift store or hand me down
@zuzka9680
@zuzka9680 3 жыл бұрын
@amandaria I sooo agree with you. As a student I haven`t much money so I used to buy my clothes in second hand shops. Then I graduate, went to job had money to buy in the ordinary way. Nowdays I just don`t enjoy to buy new clothes. Because they are so fast that they are gone bad after washing twice. And the synthethic fabrics don`t feel good on my skin (with some small exceptions like hoodies or sportswear leggings or bras / T-shirts on the other side I prefer cotton again). I tend to wear my 'old' clothes from my late twenties und early thirties because they feel better, are better tailored and don't waste so quickly as the new fashion. I like to buy second hand clothes again to replace some pieces which finaly gone bad and to have some new things in my wardrobe
@stratospherica
@stratospherica 3 жыл бұрын
​@@NamiNuitsuki Yep. $60 isn't cheap when you don't have $60. Like, I'm working on buying well-made pieces that fit me well and can be worn several different ways, but it's a very slow process to build an entire wardrobe out of those pieces. It's not the end of the world if you buy cheap stuff, especially if it's just to tide you over until you can get stuff that will last, as long as you take care of what you have.
@WayToVibe
@WayToVibe 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazayashah213 There are many, many ways to destroy clothing. Mold is just one of them. I've seen polyester get eaten by mold. Which is weird, considering it's literally plastic.
@EH23831
@EH23831 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I didn’t think about the simplicity factor- I wonder if that’s why colour seems to cycle so much... each season there’s a new colour palette
@DaBayleef
@DaBayleef 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to dress like a sim, or a cartoon character. Who cares about fashion just give me the ability to wear the same thing I love everyday that won't destroy itself super fast because of it.
@jio5680
@jio5680 3 жыл бұрын
After trying for a few months to find basic jeans among all new trends I turned to hating trends even more. All I want is to build myself a capsule wardrobe with quality things that I like and that suit me. And then I'll watch my trends-obsessed best friend try to follow the trends.
@elizabetha3936
@elizabetha3936 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting your lovely self queen, the world is making my heart hurt today.
@kbarry9743
@kbarry9743 3 жыл бұрын
Main stream fashion is seriously repetitive. That's why I love thrift shops. I've always had the same general outdoorsy style and I always will but shopping second hand gives you the opportunity to experiment for an affordable price and you don't have to feel bad about it cuz you're not contributing to fast fashion. And then when you're finished with a piece and none of your friends want it, you get to donate it right back for someone else to discover and enjoy☺️ I hope more people keep going for second hand shopping rather than the mainstream fashion companies that don't even make quality products. It's financially smarter overall and much more admirable 🌻
@smolcharlie1736
@smolcharlie1736 3 жыл бұрын
Something I find really interesting about historical fashion is how much the garment itself would be altered to suit changing tastes. Fabric was very expensive, and it makes a lot of sense to re-use it and merely update the silhouette or trim of a piece of clothing. There are quite a few 18th century gowns where the fabric might have been woven in the 1730s, the gown made up in the 1750s, and then altered in the 1780s. It must have been irritating for quite a few thrifty women when diaphanous muslins replaced heavy silk brocade, meaning that a dress really had reached the end of its life. My absolute favourite example is a dress from the 1890s that was re-cut in the 1950s when long skirts finally came back into fashion again.
@gauravyamohan2479
@gauravyamohan2479 3 жыл бұрын
1:07 "surprisingly i'm not a fan of oversimplifying things" she says with multiple rant videos on her channel and going into detail with her research on every single topic just to make sure that she's as accurate as possible for an audience on youtube that probably won't even notice the difference. girl give yourself some credit
@alonespirit9923
@alonespirit9923 3 жыл бұрын
Though quite how to define exactly where the thought fits in the theme of the rant, there are only so many things which can be done with clothes and still produce something it is comfortable and practical to live and function in. (as for me with my health the mess it is, comfort comes first with practicality & at least looking like I care how I look tied for second)
@magnusandreaslumperdean5355
@magnusandreaslumperdean5355 3 жыл бұрын
The intervals of the “recycled inspiration cycle” have really become quite small. At least where I live, the decade from where looks and styles are pulled from nearly changes every two years. It went from the 70s ski-jackets/sport clothes colours and silhouettes being the thing to a minimalist version of the 2000s fashion (kind off where we are now). Personally, I find trying to be in fashion both stressful and pointless sometimes. Especially as with the last two “cycles”, I really did not like what came back in fashion. The silhouettes and colours just didn’t do it for me… Also, finding your own style with your own inspirations can really be a big struggle. Especially when what you like from previous eras can be so different from each other. You tell me how I should combine mid-1800s, medieval, bohemian, academia and traditional Japanese in one style??? As I’ve learned from watching our immortal fashion queen, one of the big things that changes with fashion is silhouette. So I don’t know if its any help to anyone, but I started my style exploration with first choosing a silhouette that I liked and felt comfortable wearing (something between mid-1800s and 1920s explorer). And now I’m working in the aesthetics that I like (bohemian, academia, medieval or fantastical decor/embroidery and Japanese woodblock prints).
@notallergictochocolate
@notallergictochocolate 3 жыл бұрын
I just think different fashion styles and subcultures are becoming more and more popular these years and fashion is just gonna end up taking inspiration from them all, and people are just gonna wear whatever
@JaJani101
@JaJani101 3 жыл бұрын
That was the best video ending I've seen from this channel so far
@MFrederickM
@MFrederickM 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me think about how in the 90s, there was a distinctly 1960s inspiration to fashion. Early 2000s saw more 1970s inspirations, etc... (at least how it was in America at the time)
@Wingers55
@Wingers55 3 жыл бұрын
The mark fisher hauntology energy in this vid is A S T R O N O M I C A L
@Nina-sq7fy
@Nina-sq7fy 3 жыл бұрын
So that's why I don't like modern "retro" - they have different hairstyles, make-up and shoes. That explains so much. I always felt like modern fashion felt "fake", like something was just off, and now I know what. Thanks.
@junehoneycrisp
@junehoneycrisp 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS I'm sick of boomers saying "you young people are not creative enough"
@nalataamethyst2258
@nalataamethyst2258 3 жыл бұрын
The recycling trend is getting shorter and shorter in time... Like, 2-3 years ago it was 70's, last year 80's-90's and this year, I feel like 2000's fashion are slowly coming back - which is super weird because I wore these clothes as a young kid and now, 20 years later, they're coming back
@KelKelray25
@KelKelray25 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not fashion that’s just nature 😂😂 this is one of my favorites, I laughed a lot idk if it’s bc of the bad day I’m having or if it’s just Karolina being her awesome self
@ErenaaLamb
@ErenaaLamb 3 жыл бұрын
H&M literally was in the early 2000s gothic area trend, now currently its back to school in the 90s. I like that they pick up the clothes I grew up with but they don't do anything new with it.
@delphinidin
@delphinidin 2 жыл бұрын
I think personally the reason I feel like there's nothing new in fashion is because I run a fashion blog, so I've gotten kind of overexposed to fashion. So a lot of things that seem new and fresh to other people are old hat to me. It's the same reason film critics are always trashing perfectly good popular films and drooling over crazy art-house pictures: they've been overexposed to films, so a lot of things that the average movie-goer would like, critics feel is old hat.
@matildarose
@matildarose 3 жыл бұрын
Thissss. And really, outside of fast fashion (which is another bag), the context, culture, materials, presentation, etc will always be different, like you touched on with the two photos from 94 and recent.
@JUMALATION1
@JUMALATION1 3 жыл бұрын
When that fly flew past you, a fly landed on me here on the other side of the screen and I thought it had teleported to me for a brief second :D
@Hana_H
@Hana_H 3 жыл бұрын
*there are no accidents*
@Genericperson658
@Genericperson658 3 жыл бұрын
I have thought about this too and from my humble understanding this is so because the industrial revolution we’re experiencing now has very little to do with factories producing clothes or their raw materials (which is now an already established trade - stitched clothes) instead now the focus is on the tech industry. So it doesn’t matter what you dress like as long as you’re “comfortable” in what you wear, working for some startup somewhere 9-5 … also most people just don’t have the time! Its the age of technology, not cotton mills or clothing. Clothing has become something that anyone can experiment with. Like any style at anytime by anyone! Elites can dress like normal people and vice versa. Not the worst thing to happen tbh.
@Katie-hw7is
@Katie-hw7is 3 жыл бұрын
“That’s not fashion, that’s just nature”
@roos-marijn
@roos-marijn 3 жыл бұрын
I think with technology we’re now starting to get more innovative silhouettes that just weren’t possible before, like Iris van Herpen. Of course like you mentioned, new fabrics and prints are also on the rise but indeed much less easily recognisable.
@slowdancers
@slowdancers 3 жыл бұрын
modern fashion is so exhausting, I can't wait to have my own space one day and wear all my "grandma clothes", as my parents call it, and be so out of loop with current fashion trends that people around will start to catch on and dump fast fashion ;D ((a girl can dream, okay))
@v0id_b0i_89
@v0id_b0i_89 3 жыл бұрын
Most core concepts have been done before but they can be combined in an infinite number of variations and affected by variables that are in constant flux, so in a way everything is new.
@phebazoid
@phebazoid 3 жыл бұрын
The only novelty that I've noticed through this fast fashion craze is definitely that funky dress by ' House of Sunny ' but the fact that within about a year, people are now calling it "outdated" and some have even found them in thrift stores :///
@NatureSmarter
@NatureSmarter 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an interesting lecture as always, professor Żebrowska!
@Victoria-dh9vb
@Victoria-dh9vb 3 жыл бұрын
.... Girl, I'm already there. I haven't bought any new clothing (other than socks and underwear) in years. I have an unusual proportions, most trends aren't going to hang properly on me anyway, so I don't see the point in wasting the time and money when I know the things I already own fit fine.
@paranoidpeace
@paranoidpeace 3 жыл бұрын
My essay to get into FIT was about this. I didn't get in I think they were offend or I hope they were. Now that I've started my own brand I'm having to fight with where and how I take inspiration so that my work doesn't look periodical. When you said big fashion houses having to recycle the founders signature piece, one brand popped right into my mind.
@april5897
@april5897 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh those 1916 dresses are gorgeous! I had never seen those style of dresses before!! thank you so much for giving me a new little niche of fashion history to explore!!!
@LaRocheSews
@LaRocheSews 3 жыл бұрын
The way Karolina ends her videos makes me so happy and I don't know why-
@multistan9650
@multistan9650 3 жыл бұрын
Hey girl haven’t seen you in a while Also we stan a queen stating her opinion!
@adagallagher1591
@adagallagher1591 2 жыл бұрын
I Couldn’t agree more! While we don’t change the way we shop that’s how it is going to be. We need to rethink fashion and how disposable fashion items are.
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