Shortening Comparison - Which One Tastes Best In Buttercream?

I love me some American Buttercream! It is a butter and shortening based frosting. The type of shortening you use in your icing makes a big difference. I have been using Sweetex High Ratio Shortening for years now. But I heard that Walmart makes a shortening comparable to high ratio shortening, so I had to try it out! In this video, I will compare the Walmart shortening against Crisco All Vegetable shortening and Sweetex High Ratio shortening to see which one gives the best result!
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0:00 Intro
2:24 Comparing Prices
5:02 Comparing Consistencies
7:55 Making Icing
12:00 Visual Comparison
13:03 Taste Test
14:31 Conclusion
16:18 Outro
• Shortening Comparison ...

[@KarolynsKakes]

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[@hoovenamy94]

What is the shelf life of all 3?

[@tdg1945]

Just a suggestion.... But I dampen my towel when I put it over the mixer. The dampness captures the sugar dust. 😉

[@KarolynsKakes]

Omg DUH! Why didn’t I think of that?! Thank you!

[@mariaconsuelothomen]

Good idea! Doesn't it make your frosting too gooey?

[@shilocrommett3578]

I have a piece that attaches to my bowl so the sugar doesn't fly everywhere!!

[@lorrainehicks9172]

You always give such great information in such a funny way. So happy to find an ingredient that could help my buttercream half as good as yours. Thank you for sharing and keep on caking 💜

[@caymankatie]

SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS!!! :D

[@Kay-ng2uk]

Thank you for this video!!!! It’s so informative and exactly what I was wondering!!! Love your energy!!!

[@KarolynsKakes]

You're welcome Kay! 😊

[@truthseeker8328]

Thank you for this comparison! Very helpful.

[@krisheathman9053]

I would’ve liked to see you do a blind taste test. I’m sure you’d know the icing with Crisco because of its texture. But the other 2 that seem so similar, that would’ve been an interesting take. Anyone else agree? Keep on keeping on❣️ Love your style and love your kakes. Love the videos too 😊

[@victoriasmith2965]

Yes. Cuz then she mightve thought walmart was better thinning it was her favorite sweetex. I wish she would've!!!!

[@kaybonette]

She did do a taste test comparison. Sweetex was best, Walmart shortening with lard was next and Crisco came in last.

[@DeshawnDirckson]

She said a “blind tasting “ meaning she didn’t know which was what . And I also would’ve liked to see it done that way

[@daramcneil9623]

Wow, you are a gem!! I learn so much from you. So grateful.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Wow, thank you Dara! 😊💜

[@thomaxinedixon9852]

This was extremely helpful. Thank you

[@marygregory4871]

Really enjoyed this 👌 thank you 😊

[@eileenmurphy2019]

I appreciate this so much! So I no longer have a business and have moved with no longer affordable access to Sweetex. I did get a small amount from etsy for a special cake but just couldn't see paying that on a regular basis. So, I went back to. Crisco. It is nice to have a middle of the road option. My preferred icing is SMB but one that also uses mix of butter and shortening. The Hi Ratio just has a more luxurious mouth feel. So I agree with you on that but nice to have options. Thanks again.

[@jesicafrazier9313]

Thank you thank you thank you for this video. I came across it at the most perfect time!

[@KarolynsKakes]

Glad it was helpful!

[@velmamorales5568]

I use the Walmart brand and really like it. The sweetex is harder to get and way too much for me to store. Thank you for doing this video. I often wondered if the walmart brand was comparable.

[@KarolynsKakes]

I’m glad it helped!

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[@soniareyes9099]

Thanks for the share !!! Great video 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💖

[@veronicastephens5408]

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[@KarolynsKakes]

You’re welcome love!! 💜🙏🏼

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[@sophiem.6109]

Thank you, this was very helpful!!

[@KarolynsKakes]

You’re welcome Soph! 😊

[@anitachipoco-jochamowitz8101]

Thank you very much for your video! Very informative and well one. I always use Crisco for my Peruvian Alfajores. Next time I will try the Walmart brand and check the results. I will keep you posted.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Please let me know how it turns out!

[@PatrickHoenig98]

Made frosting today using the Wal Mart brand for the first time and it came out really good. Definitely a different mouth feel than Crisco. Thank you for sharing this and I love your channel.

[@KarolynsKakes]

That's wonderful Patrick! You're welcome! 😊🙌

[@MrsCsmiley00]

Thank you for sharing! Definitely I will try the Walmart brand.

[@peggygraham4817]

In Texas-so we have hot summers. Trying out different buttercream recipes, I tried this with the Walmart Shortening. So pleased with the ease, and result of this recipe. Thank you for your comparison test for us

[@amandakuder6943]

How did the buttercream hold up in the heat? I wanted to make a high ratio one that holds up but want to try the Walmart one for price and ease.

[@michaelvelotti3936]

I’m the newest subscriber. I got to say thank you so much for sharing different kinds of shortening! I didn’t know that high ratio shortening was a thing when you shared another video of how to make your American buttercream. I love to be in kitchen a lot with cooking and baking and taught myself on a lot elements of cooking and baking right through KZbin itself. I don’t have cooking as a career, but basically as a hobby. I’m currently starting to extend my knowledge on frostings. I already know how to pipe and frost cakes as well as filling cakes too along with frosting a crumb coat on cake. I haven’t tried your recipe for your American buttercream but I will try it soon. Since I don’t bake a lot of cakes, I might want to try out the Walmart’s high-ratio shortening for sturdiness in the frosting (and more budget-friendly). But however I will look into all of that soon. Thanks again for the video! It’s very helpful.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Michael! This is wonderful, I'm so glad it was helpful! 🙏

[@kaoribecker3324]

Very helpful thank you!!

[@suzanneb6088]

These videos are so incredibly helpful! I stood in the store watching your shortening comparison before purchasing. Every tip is just spot on fabulous info. Thanks!

[@KarolynsKakes]

Which one did you get?!

[@suzanneb6088]

@@KarolynsKakes Walmart. I'm less than amateur and 2 kiddos birthdays this weekend. All will be delicious. So glad for your review, I would have just grabbed Costco, knowing no difference.

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[@juliesigmund3836]

I'm so happy you made this video! I was making buttercream for a cake a couple years ago and I used crisco. My icing had such a gritty and greasy texture that I thought I was going to gag. I had no idea what happened and thought it was the powdered sugar. I used a different brand of sugar and the same thing happened. I finally gave up and did a little research on what was causing it. I found out it was the shortening. I don't sell cakes and I only make them for friends and family. It's something I enjoy doing most of the time. I bought a small bucket of high ratio shortening and I paid a pretty penny for it. I think I got it off Etsy. 😂 I loved how it made my buttercream so creamy and smooth and held up to warmer temps since I live in NC. I just can't afford to spend the money on a 50lb block of it no more than I use it. I will definitely be trying out the Walmart brand on my next batch of buttercream.

[@KarolynsKakes]

The Walmart brand is actually a pretty good substitute! The Sweetex is still the best, I wish they sold it in smaller sizes. I called the company before and they said they don't have the manufacturing equipment to make smaller sizes, so that stinks!

[@MultiGemgirl]

cool. I will be trying both brands

[@KarolynsKakes]

Let me know how you like it!

[@melissaparker7336]

I am not a professional, but I love to make cakes for friends and family. I have always used the Wilton buttercream method, but I am going to try your recipe this weekend using the Walmart shortening. Thank you! I'm excited to see the difference!

[@KarolynsKakes]

Yay!!! Let me know how it turns out!

[@brendajantjies6156]

Thank u thank u thank I,m learning a lot😘

[@chinetap9599]

Thank you, thank you thank you!! I use crisco for my buttercream and always thought I was doing something wrong, I had a hard time making roses and getting smooth cake look! I gave up frosting cakes 😔 it was too frustrating.. I dont like the taste of all butter frosting.. Your video made me so happy! I will try with the high ratio shortening! 🙂

[@Kimmaline]

It might be worth trying a swiss meringue shortening. I have been an American buttercream girl for 25yrs, but just tried a SMBC I got from Bake My Day Mimo (which she apparently got from another CakeTuber) and I am just blown away. It doesn't actually have you whip the egg whites first, and since it uses pasteurized egg whites in a carton you don't need to heat them snd deal with the double boiler BS. If someone would have told me 5yrs ago I would be singing the praises of something other than American Buttercream, I would have nevwr believed it. But now I get why people all love this simple Swiss Meringue Buttercream. It's pretty dreamy. I also made moew traditional SMBC where I whipped the whites first--it was good, but the simpler recipe was just the best.

[@sndygskylr]

Thank you for all your videos. Walmart brand is my go to because I don’t bake that much. I’m curious about how you make your cakes. I’ll check your videos for availability. Thanks again!

[@rubyc.4311]

Thank you for doing this video. It’s good to see a comparison of these frostings. Here in Canada, I found a small tub of 750 g from a local bakery store warehouse for around $10 which is quite pricy.

[@KarolynsKakes]

It’s ridiculous that the company doesn’t sell it in smaller containers. The markup is insane.

[@shenelleyards8803]

Hi do you mind telling me where in Canada you got it? Really wanna try it before purchasing the 50lb

[@rutumendha]

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[@jenyhomestuff]

Thank you🎉

[@sndygskylr]

Wonderful!

[@christinam7889]

Hi Karolyn. When I first started making cakes I used Crisco. Then, like you, I learned about Sweetex and have never looked back. I'm disappointed that they removed the trans-fat, as I can definitely tell a difference, but it still remains my favorite shortening to use. That said, I do not use my 50lb box fast enough to feel like its safe to keep at room temperature for months so I keep mine in the freezer. Yep. It freezes very well! I divide my 50 lb box in to food safe bread bags and then just flatten them and stack them in the freezer. When I need shortening for my buttercream I just take out a bag and let it sit out overnight and it's good to go. I've been doing this for years and have never had a problem with it going bad.

[@KarolynsKakes]

That is a great tip, thank you for sharing! 🙌😊

[@victoriasmith2965]

Thank you for the tip!!! I def don't need 50 pounds. So I'm going to try to freeze it

[@Rachaelnmmm]

How long does it last in the freezer?

[@christinam7889]

@@Rachaelnmmm I've kept in for as long as 9 months.

[@rachelboothe5075]

Thank you so much for this video about the Walmart Shortening. I love your videos and I had been wondering about the this particular shortening. I am very encouraged by the results you got and I am going to try it. Is it possible to use only shortening with no butter in frosting? I am asking because I am wanting some frosting to practice with on a cake dummy, and since butter is so expensive, I am wanting to save some money since it won't be eaten.

[@KarolynsKakes]

You're welcome Rach! And, yes, all shortening icing is great for practice!

[@cindyboor7876]

Hi Karolyn ! Thanks so much for the video! I too purchased the 2pound contaoner of hi ratio shortening from amazon at that expensive price till I watch a couple videos on u tube and suggested using the walmart brand but not all walmart stores have it in stock. But it is better than crisco as far as being a little stiffer for newbies! I was wonderring if your recipe holds up good in the heat with all that butter? I've been going all shortening in fear of it melting! Just a home baker for family I wished they ssold smaller amounts of sweetex for bakers like us that dont bake that much! I can't tell you how much I enjoy your videos and thank you so much for all you do!

[@KarolynsKakes]

I actually called the company who makes it and they said they don't have the machinery to manufacture it into smaller containers. Which SUCKS! I use more sweetex (3/4 cup) in the Summer in my icing, which helps to stabilize it. In the Winter, I only use 1/2 cup. I have found that it's okay that way. Now, I don't recommend the cake sits in the heat for long and to keep it as cool as possible. If you're making a cake for an outdoor party, you may be better using mostly sweetex in the icing!

[@barbararinker987]

I have learned so much from you in the short time I have been watching your videos. Thank you for your expertise advice. I have been using the Walmart brand for awhile. have a great Sunday. 🥰🙂😊

[@KarolynsKakes]

You’re welcome Barbara! I am late to the party with this Walmart brand, I can’t believe I just heard about it!

[@floursandroses]

I use Sweetex and LOVE it so much! I get mine from the Restaurant Store. I from outside Philly as well so we just drive down to Wilmington, De to get there. Takes us about 25, 30 minutes but worth the drive. I get all mu sugars there, my containers, my mixer, mixing spoons, etc. Love the store so much. If you are a member, you save so much money.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Where near Philly are you? They have Sweetex at PJP Marketplace in Philly! There's a restaurant store near me that has the other supplies, but they don't have the Sweetex.

[@ruthnodecker7759]

I've been using the Walmart brand because I can no longer buy the Sweetex locally. I also have not used Sweetex without the trans fats. I have to say since I started following your recipe, using less shortening and more butter than I was and excluding the additional salt I am getting a much better result with the Walmart brand. If I had a choice I would love to go back to sweetex with trans fats simply for how smooth my icing was then. I realize trans fats are not good for us however so many other things are not either😁😁 Thank you so much for filming this comparison 🥰🥰 as usual I enjoy learning from you!!

[@KarolynsKakes]

Thanks girl! Do you find that the Walmart shortening based icing doesn’t crust as well? I had someone else say that and would love to know.

[@ruthnodecker7759]

@@KarolynsKakes it crusts very well!! I was having issues with my icing cracking with it until I started following your recipe.

[@kaybonette]

Thank you for this video. You quoted the price for the Walmart shortening. It was $4 and change. Here in Florida the same can is $5.18. I have 3 full containers of WM all veg shortening. Guess I have to use it up but I will buy a can of regular shortening to see it it helps me pipe flowers. I have learned a lot from your channel. Thanks so much

[@KarolynsKakes]

I filmed this video a few years ago, I'm sure the price went up since then! The all veg shortening will be somewhat greasier than the other one. 😊

[@theresaverdin7525]

Hi there! I wanted to let you know of a place that i get some of my baking stuff from. It’s Country Kitchen. When i first heard about using shortening in my buttercream I decided to go look at the pricing on there. It worked out great! They do sale Sweetex there and i was able to get a smaller amount so i was able to try it before going all in. I actually just made a buttercream, maybe two weeks ago and my ratio was half butter to same amount of sweetex. I LOVE IT!!! I was totally shocked by the taste after. Wow! Anywho, the pricing on the Sweetex is at $6.95 for 12ox, 4.25ib for $27.95 and then the big box,50lbs, for $225.25. I love learning from you!

[@KarolynsKakes]

That's great to know, thank you so much! I called the company who manufactures Sweetex and asked if they could sell it in smaller amounts. They said that they don't have the equipment to process it. So this is a great option. And it really does make a difference in the taste! It's totally worth the investment.

[@littlelady3895]

Omg Thank You so much for your comparisons. I only bake for family and friends,and not that often anymore as I am disabled so long times in the kitchen isn't something I can do anymore. I am fixing to be making a wedding cake for a friend's daughter in may. I am fixing to start Taste Test Cakes/cupcakes... I seen you video one flavoring just a few of each kind. I am nervous about this cake as I do normal basic flavors all the time. My last wedding cake was a Lemon Cake with fresh Raspberry filling, it was awesome. This new cake is a Lemon Lavender Cake, she wants a white cake n White buttercream frosting.... So it's all extracts for flavors. But I have never worked with Lavender before so I am nervous. Any tips or ideas on combination verities will be greatly appreciated. Also, any idea on which Lavender Extract is best, as I need a clear one and will have to buy online as I live in a tiny Town and my local stores won't have it. TIA y'all ❤️🤟❤️

[@KarolynsKakes]

I've actually never had a request for Lavender flavored anything, so I haven't worked with it and can't recommend anything. I'm sorry I can't help you there!

[@danaedwards4445]

I've been using Walmart brand for years. Never heard of Sweetex. I may order some.

[@sandybernstein9588]

Thank you for this video, I'm not using the crisco. Sandy

[@kristinekerr3688]

Excellent excellent video! Could you do a video for Swiss meringue buttercream using this Walmart shortening or even the Sweetex shortening? I find American buttercream to be too sweet due to the powdered sugar. I prefer the taste of granulated sugar.

[@delfina7583]

Great video. Thank you for taking the time to do it. Now, I know that the Walmart brand is good.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Definitely better than the Crisco! Just make sure you get the right shortening!

[@jasitysoltero9138]

Which shortening would that be.. I used the crisco brand this week and omgosh it was horrid this time around.. just grainy.. not good at all

[@arminaviviansonnie6209]

Thanks U very, very much.

[@evettefernandez2749]

Try using heavy cream; it makes it so rich and creamy😋

[@wonderfulday77]

Thanks so much for doing this! I always follow your recipes although I don’t make enough cakes to buy a huge box of sweetex. I’m getting ready to do another cake and I’m gonna try and find the Walmart brand. Last time I did a cake my Walmart didn’t have it 😕but figure I can order online if it’s not in store

[@KarolynsKakes]

You're welcome Tricia, let me know how you like it!

[@SugarSugarCreek]

The main ingredient in the high ratio shortening is "palm oil" since they changed the formula. Walmart shortening has both animal and vegetable fat so you may need to take that into account for some clients. ;)

[@KarolynsKakes]

Thank you! I can't believe I didn't address that in the video. Oops LOL I appreciate you!

[@normaguerra8363]

I agree with you. I learned the hard way that shortening containing animal fat shouldn’t be used for icing or frosting cakes. My stomach didn’t like it, I started feeling nauseous just after eating the cake. I felt sick for a few days and other members of my family too.

[@danyelgarcia3689]

So we shouldn't use the Walmart Crisco for frosting?

[@dbarnes66]

Thank you for doing this comparison. I would love to purchase Sweetex but it will expire before I use it all so I use all butter. I’ll try to find Walmart’s shortening.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Shortening really helps to stabilize the icing!

[@bernadettebaptiste5561]

I live in Canada 🇨🇦 I can't find the Walmart shortening here but I buy when I cross over to Buffalo its the best shortening for making your buttercream icing.

[@troymcdonald]

Thanks

[@virginiaarceo45]

I always use Walmart shorting!! 😋

[@GabrielaRamirez-ms4ll]

👍🏻 thank you

[@carissarobinson4336]

Always wondered why with Crisco it feels like you have to add more sugar to get a thicker consistency. This video makes so much sense bc more sugar makes it over the top sweet but needed the thickness or sturdiness. Definitely will try great value with this new info.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Yes! The Crisco is thinner and oilier than the other 2 shortenings. Wait til you see the difference in the consistency!

[@mariaconsuelothomen]

I sometimes use the cap to measure the vanilla.

[@GeeDeeBird]

Really would have liked a third party blind taste test to drive your point home.... Thanks for sharing!!

[@marlettaengland1513]

Love this video. I think if you’re piping flowers that the sweetex holds up better. If you’re gonna put time and energy into making a beautiful cake, then it’s worth the money to buy sweetex. Also, you can freeze it in airtight containers.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Good to know it freezes well, thank you!

[@sheilaolson5868]

It’s not worth it when sweetex costs $9 per lb before tax. On average, how much icing do you use for a fully decorated 2 layer cake?

[@myrademarchena758]

I am one of those who also invests in Sweetex but now that everything is out of control expensive I have found a great way to stretch my dollars on that Sweetex. I use half Sweetex and half of this Walmart animal shortening and it tastes exactly the same!!!! Just take your recipe and instead of using 6 oz of either one just use 3 oz of each. Enjoy!!

[@KarolynsKakes]

What a great tip!! Thank you so much!🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@annacarolinaamador6994]

I love the Walmart brand. It blends a beautiful creamy buttercream

[@dbarnes66]

After watching your video, I rushed to Walmart to find their shortening then made a half batch of your buttercream. It was very good to me but then again I’ve never had sweetex.

[@KarolynsKakes]

It's a good substitute, I was surprised! Much smoother than all vegetable shortening. But, yes, the Sweetex is even smoother than that!

[@chammiwickramasinghe3691]

Thank you so much for your lovely videos but I am living in France and can’t find sweetex could you please tell me what to use instead ?

[@Mrsborniiwin]

Hello Karolyn, you teach so well and always make me laugh!! I live in Trenton, NJ and will be driving to Philly on Tuesday. Which PJP Carry’s the Sweetex? The one on Frankfort Ave or Aramigo Ave? Thanks for your help :-).

[@KarolynsKakes]

They both have it! I've been going to Frankford Ave because it's closer to me. It's all the way in the back of the store!

[@loladiamond6084]

Hello just joined loved the video I’m located and Florida and just started back doing cakes on my own how much shortening should I use and how much butter since we have more humid and hot weather here?

[@KarolynsKakes]

Hi Lola! I have family in FLA and I know how insanely humid it is there! When it's hot and humid up here in PA, I will do 2 1/2 sticks of butter and 3/4 cup of the shortening.

[@penny6958]

I tried the walmart brand last year and it was a disaster ! I just got some sweetex in the mail. I am so excited to try it! If anyone is trying the walmart brand I hope they have more success than I did . Maybe it was my recipe ??? Thanks for all your videos. I have learned so much from you !!!!

[@KarolynsKakes]

Was it definitely the shortening and not the all vegetable shortening?

[@penny6958]

@@KarolynsKakes yes but I didnt use your recipe. I used someone else’s and maybe the ratio between the butter and shortening was wrong. It was really greasy. I’m trying out the sweetex tomorrow 😊

[@KarolynsKakes]

@@penny6958 wait til you see the difference!

[@barbaradutra8775]

100% agree that the sweetex is better. I have used the Walmart brand and definitely notice the difference in taste. I only use it in a pinch.

[@KarolynsKakes]

You're right! It's good in a pinch. But once you have Sweetex, it's hard to use anything else!

[@katheystarkey3008]

I have ues sweetex since 1982 l love it i buy it by the 50# block . You cant beat it.

[@KarolynsKakes]

It's THE BEST and totally worth the investment!🎉

[@marthaadams5777]

I use the Great Value shortening as well.

[@KarolynsKakes]

I can't believe I'm just finding out about this!

[@jasitysoltero9138]

Walmart has an all veg shortening? I noticed it also said prepared with animal/ veg fats.. is this the one I should get if I make the purchase at walmart

[@marthaadams5777]

Jasity Soltero, Hi Jasity, You have to get the one that doesn’t say “vegetable.” It should only indicate that it’s shortening.

[@sherryssweetsensationz2623]

Hey Karolyn I’ve used Walmart brand very often. They actually changed the look of the can previously trying to throw us off. It had a pie on the can before. Enjoy 😉

[@KarolynsKakes]

Good to know, thanks girl!

[@lisaday1427]

Love your videos. Thank you so much for them. I just bought my first box 50lb of Sweetex. I live where it is cool most of the year so I generally use all butter but I was curious about this high ratio shortening. I did not realize that there were more than one kind of sweetex and ended up buying just the regular sweetex flex with the palm oil. Will this be okay to use?

[@KarolynsKakes]

Yes! I've used that and it was still really good. 😊

[@lisaday1427]

@@KarolynsKakes Great thanks so much! 😀

[@hectorsavage3127]

So surprised to have come across and watched this video. I am a home baker and have been making and selling cakes for around 15 years; birthday, wedding, etc. About 9 years ago I learned of and tried sweetex high ratio shortening, and ordered it on amazon to make my icing. I was so disappointed with the texture of it that I actually threw it away!! I found it to be extremely gritty. I have used the Walmart brand ever since and love it so I am very surprised at this comparison. Don't know why the difference is so drastic?? I guess just personal preferences. I use swiss meringue buttercream more often now because people seem to prefer it's less sweet taste. Best to you

[@KarolynsKakes]

Wow, I never experienced a gritty taste with the Sweetex. That really stinks! But at least you found an icing that works for you.😊

[@anitabadeau4866]

Just had to tell you my story about sweetex shortening. I purchased the 50lb bag at Amazon. I got out my food saver and bagged the sweetex in 5lb bags and put them in my freezer. I kept 1 bag out to use. Just an idea for someone who wants to try it. I absolutely love the sweetex above all others.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Thank you so much for the tip! And the Sweetex really does trump all the others. I know it's pricey, but it's totally worth it!

[@lamirada90638]

Hello and thank you so much for sharing! I love the results with the Walmart shortening! However I decided to add meringue powder/milk... Have you use meringue powder in your buttercream in the past? I've noticed when I use meringue powder it taste a little grainy not sure if that's the word I should be using but like I can taste the powder.... Only used it because I wanted my buttercream to be more sturdy for flowers... I will leave out the meringue powder in the future but just curious if you've experienced this as well... Without the meringue powder it's creamy beautiful but just wanted something more sturdier 😕

[@KarolynsKakes]

Yeah, meringue powder can taste a little grainy in icing. If it's just for flowers, it may not be that big of a deal. But I wouldn't want to frost a cake with it. I usually just make my regular icing and add less liquid so it's stiffer for flowers.

[@lamirada90638]

@@KarolynsKakes that's a good idea! Thank you very much 🥰

[@Kristen9617]

Hello Karolyn! I typically use Swiss meringue buttercream because it’s less sweeter than American buttercream. I was wondering if You know if can use veggie shortening on Swiss meringue ?

[@bushnannette]

I use the high ratio walmart shortening with butter for my Swiss meringue

[@catritz]

Thanks so much, it was very informative. What a delightful person you are... p s Can you freeze this frosting? p p s By the way, "great value" shortening is not sold in Canada... Go figure. Tried looking for substitutes, no luck.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Awww mannn! That stinks! You can freeze the frosting for a few months, I wouldn't freeze it longer than 3-4 months. Freeze in an airtight container or freezer bag. Thaw overnight in the fridge (still in the bag / container). Then remove from fridge and thaw on countertop (still in the bag / container) until soft. Add to mixing bowl and rewhip the frosting, I also like to add a teeny bit more vanilla flavoring too!

[@liquidrockaquatics3900]

The salt in the butter will make the icing sweeter without needing as much sugar; it’s the same reason that you add salt to cookies as well. Taste buds get overwhelmed and salt helps to break the sugar free from the taste receptors so that you can taste again (or that’s what Alton Brown said years ago in an episode on ice cream)

[@elsieberrios7559]

Where do you purchase your sweetex? Great video!

[@KarolynsKakes]

I get it at a local store, but they also have it online (do a google search for Sweetex high ratio shortening). And on Amazon. Amazon is pricier, but if you have prime, shipping is free. The sites have it a little cheaper, but I believe you have to pay for shipping. So do the comparisons!

[@kiga1787]

What if you prefer to use unsalted butter? What would the measurements be for regular salt? Thanks so much!!

[@KarolynsKakes]

I would do 1/4 tsp salt.

[@beverlyharward9631]

Sweetex is absolutely the best, however, I'll use Crisco before Walmart shortening. I use Amazon for certain products but I refuse to pay their exorbitant marked up prices on many things. Yes, they deliver to doorstep but we still go out. We don't sit at home all the time so of course we stop and shop. As for the people that insanely markup prices on everything from toilet paper to Sweetex to toys etc, they can keep it. I don't need it or want it that badly!!!! Thanks for all your helpful videos.

[@KarolynsKakes]

I feel ya!

[@nikitasingh9025]

Where I am in trinidad there is also a brand called cookeen.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Is that high ratio shortening? What is is made from?

[@tileshasmith1628]

Hi, Karolyn I have a question for you. Have you ever used half and half meaning swiss meringue buttercream, and American buttercream? And does this cut down on the sweetness?

[@KarolynsKakes]

I never have. If I want to cut the sweetness, I add less sugar.

[@gilliandale794]

Hi Karolyn , firstly I am from the UK and love your very informative videos.i am just a beginner baker and I've only ever made buttercream twice up to now. Can you please tell me what shortening agent I would need to use here in the UK to make the buttercream. Am I correct in saying that the shortening you use compared to UK would that be lard ? This comes in blocks,I'm not sure.It seems strange to me using lard to mix with icing sugar? Help please . Thank you from a confused learner baker.xx

[@jillsimmonds7174]

Lard is our equivalent here in UK and yep strange 🤔

[@gilliandale794]

@@jillsimmonds7174 thanks for your reply. I still can't imagine using lard with icing sugar though.It would change the taste and texture don't you think. Thanks again Jill and happy baking.x

[@dminniswhite68]

Check local cake supply stores in your area. All of the ones near me sell hi ratio shortening in smaller amts. They buy the 50 lb box and break it down into 1, 2 and 5 lb containers.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Thank you! 🙌

[@mstassamo2899]

If you were a decorator before Crisco changed its formula to remove Trans Fats in early 2000, you would have seen how Crisco used to be almost exactly like Walmart with animal fats (not the all vegetable). Since the formula change, Crisco just isn't that good anymore, and I'm not sure why bakers still use it in icing. The most likely reason is old recipes being used today which specifically call for Crisco. Excellent video, very informative fir those who use shortening. Personally, I use Alpine and not sweetex, but they are very similar. Maybe you could get ahold of some Alpine and compare that.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Thank you for this review! I will definitely try the Alpine and compare it to the Sweetex 😊🙌

[@daintydina]

Hi. Can you do a tutorial for a half sheet/sheet cake? Thanks

[@KarolynsKakes]

I really don’t make sheet cakes anymore. But if I do make one, I’ll film it!

[@michellecastellano3180]

Hello new to baking. Love your videos. Which butter brand do you use? Thanks.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Thank you Michelle! I usually use the Member's Mark brand that they sell at Sam's Club.

[@michellecastellano3180]

@@KarolynsKakes thank you much.

[@GillHarris-iw3ml]

I’m in the UK and had no idea what shortening is. I’ve managed to buy some Crisco from Amazon UK but can’t get the Sweetex version. I can only find it for £489 for the 50lb box. That’s $605!!!! A bit out of my league 😢. Loving the videos though. Thanks for all the tips x

[@KarolynsKakes]

Whoa!! That's insane. I contacted the manufacturer of the high ratio shortening and they said they can't make it in smaller quantities because they don't have the equipment for it. That really stinks!

[@babigurlgapeach]

Hi karolyn, is there any particular reason you used 1/2 cup shortening in this recipe vs your usual recipe using 3/4 cup shortening? Tfs!

[@KarolynsKakes]

I’ve been using 1/2 cup shortening lately and still have good results. I Feel like in the warmer months, I will most likely use more shortening because it will make the Buttercream more stable. But in the colder months, I don’t really have to worry about the butter melting, so I can use less shortening with pretty much the same result.

[@shelleyjones9854]

Thanks for the great video. I don't bake enough for justify buying the Sweetex. I'm a little confused. In your video, your Great Value container says: "Prepared with animal & vegetable fats". The container I find in my local Walmart (and google search) says: "Prepared with meat fats and vegetable oils". They also have the "all vegetable" version. I'm I missing something? Or do you think they have changed their labeling? Are the one in the same? Don't want to screw up and buy this if it's not right. Thank you so much for all your great videos and guidance!!!

[@KarolynsKakes]

It’s the same thing they must have just changed the label!

[@wideopenzxi]

Thank you that was a lot of help, But Can you freeze Hi Ratio Shortening?

[@KarolynsKakes]

I have heard that people do, but I never have. If you do, you'll want to wrap it up really well in smaller pieces trying to eliminate as much air as possible.

[@wideopenzxi]

Thank you.

[@amyhensal9126]

Thanks for all your quick responses. Any ideas if Sweetex is safe for someone with a peanut allergy. I went to order some online and there is conflicting info on whether it is made in a nutfree facility or not

[@KarolynsKakes]

I've read that the machines they use may come in contact with nuts, but the product itself is nut free. I've had people with nut allergies order my cakes with Sweetex without an issue. But it's definitely something you'd want to make people aware of. Some nut allergies aren't as severe (so they could eat products produced in a facility that has nuts).

[@yummycakes4422]

Hello Karolyn’s thank you for your time to help us Question this high ratio margin is animal fat but not specifying which animal plus many people with health conscious and Religious purpose they refuse me to use high ratio margarine So I use crisco but now crisco is so expensive so I just bought Walmart brand vegetable shortening Don’t know is like crisco or ? If you have use plz let me know or help me out

[@KarolynsKakes]

Crisco and Walmart all vegetable shortening are both vegetable shortening so they are basically the same thing.

[@mjcwatch5843]

I have a question can I use this for a Red Velvet cake because I normally use cream cheese but I’m trying to elevate lol….also how could I make a chocolate version and does this icing firm up.

[@trishrobinson715]

HI I just watched your tutorial on Scooby-Doo fondant "plaque". Very entertaining and informative. What I was wondering is about Copyright laws. I live in FL near Disney World and there is a lot of problems with the reuse of the characters. I was wondering if Scooby-Doo falls into that type of legal mess?

[@KarolynsKakes]

It can if you sell it for a profit. Generally, character cakes can be made as a gift. And you take a risk if you sell it for profit. Some people take the risk, some people don't.

[@shaykashif]

I was wondering if you ever tried using vegetable only shortening as a kosher option if that would work?

[@KarolynsKakes]

The Crisco is an all-vegetable shortening. The Sweetex is soy based. So I believe those 2 options are kosher. The Walmart brand has animal fat, so that isn't.

[@Failureisnotanoptionever]

Thanks for this video! It really helps. I’m new to the bakery world and I just started a cake decorating class. The instructor says to never get the shortening with animal fat in it….but to get the only “all” vegetable shortening or only use sweetex….she also used no butter in her frosting…however your video says to stay far away from “all” vegetable shortening….why do you say this?

[@KarolynsKakes]

Everyone has their personal preferences! I find that the all vegetable shortening is greasier and not as dense.

[@Failureisnotanoptionever]

@@KarolynsKakes that makes sense! Thanks for the info!

[@normaguerra8363]

I liked your video comparing different shortening brands. I liked the idea of using high ratio shortening such as sweetex instead of Crisco brand, but because Sweetex is quite expensive and only comes in 50lbs, I decided to use the Walmart brand. Sadly I wouldn’t recommend it. Everyone at home got sick. Nausea was the symptom that everybody felt for about three days. I know it was the shortening because it happened about two hours later after eating the cake. It was disappointing because the texture of the buttercream was much better than when I use the Crisco brand. After such experience I did my research and I found out that shortening containing animal fat shouldn’t be used for frosting or icing cakes. I will suggest that you don’t suggest people to try it as an alternative.

[@KarolynsKakes]

Oh no I'm sorry to hear that! I've had icing with that in it and didn't have any adverse effects. I've heard other people use it with success as well, so I'm not sure why that happened. Hope you're all feeling better!

[@taesbeatsautismisawesome6673]

Can you use lard?

[@rachel6646]

Can you do a video about how keep from gaining weight with a baking business? 😂 I saw you throw those cake scraps in the sink and I thought wow I would have shoved that in my face! The self control!

[@KarolynsKakes]

Someone else asked me to do a video on that! Let me figure out what I can say and maybe I’ll post that soon 🎂💪🏼

[@barbaracline9504]

I have been chewing mint gum while baking. That helps.... Unless it's something caramel or coffee 🤦‍♀️