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KarQ ranks EASIEST to HARDEST Heroes in Overwatch 2 (TIER LIST)

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@likenoother6561
@likenoother6561 Жыл бұрын
I think one thing that's not being taken into accountability is survivability as well. Someone like Ana doesn't have a hard gameplan. But Landing sleep darts and having good positioning so you don't get dived can be difficult
@--6880
@--6880 Жыл бұрын
yeah thats more of skill ceiling tho
@noahpoobbailey
@noahpoobbailey Жыл бұрын
@@--6880 Ana has terrible survivability for beginners though, which is what this list is about.
@--6880
@--6880 Жыл бұрын
@@noahpoobbailey yeah, but that's the point, it's for begginers, they don't need to know about survivability - it's about getting value by playing that hero when you're a begginer. kiriko has great survivability for begginers with the TP and cleanse, but they wont get as much value from kiriko as from ana. well at least that's how i think
@HorrorMoviesNGuns
@HorrorMoviesNGuns Жыл бұрын
@@--6880 I’ll say Kiriko is definitely more easier than Ana for beginners. Not only does she require aim to heal her teammates but from the beginners I played with, I even believe that they think Ana can only heal her teammates with her grenade. As for Kiriko, her healing just travels to the teammate as long as they’re in sight, plus her ult is more game changing for beginners since it’s a whole team benefiting off of it while Ana may just nano a Torb just because he looks like a dangerous hero to play against.
@damp2269
@damp2269 Жыл бұрын
@@--6880 counter argument is you get 0 value when you are dead so staying alive is relevant.
@t.j.maverick7830
@t.j.maverick7830 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good list. My only thought is that I've had trouble teaching long-time players Sigma, so I think he would probably be hard for most newbies. His shots move very slow, so aiming is tough. And while his shield is just a button, you have to adjust how far it goes and remember to pull it down or it doesn't offer much help. The rock is also slow and with an strange arc. And his ultimate is pretty easy to screw up, either by failing to anticipate player movement or failing to account for hacks/hooks/other stuns.
@yeahso8225
@yeahso8225 Жыл бұрын
I'm a new player, and it was a bit odd to use Sigma at first but after a game or two I got used to his kit. Still not good at using his ult but I'm not good at using ults for any character. Usually I just waste them or get 1 kill. Any tips for ults?
@gummidoggi
@gummidoggi Жыл бұрын
@@yeahso8225 imo it just comes with time playing the game, ive played since season 5 of overwatch 1 and i still sometimes fumble my ults. but as long as it brings some value its not a bad ult!
@yeahso8225
@yeahso8225 Жыл бұрын
@@gummidoggi Thanks! I'm trying to get better
@Noodle177
@Noodle177 Жыл бұрын
@@yeahso8225 hmmmm.. whenever i use sigma, i like to launch my shield into the air and use the ult. I use the shield to block burst damage, and sleep darts, javelins, hooks, all that stuff. it usually pays off. its definitely a great thing to target supports with it, but if you can get more, definitely go for it. If a zen prematurely uses transcendence, wait it out, you can still do damage. Remember, if a zen isnt caught in the flux, he can still heal his team. You can combo dragonstrike and gravitic flux for confirmed kills (unless they have a bap, just watch his immortality field). you may already know these😅 just letting you know the things i think about when i flux:)
@yeahso8225
@yeahso8225 Жыл бұрын
@@Noodle177 Yo thanks for the great tip!
@ffionjames7350
@ffionjames7350 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, new heroes for people with fps experience and people without are very very different lists
@justanotherasian8908
@justanotherasian8908 Жыл бұрын
Would love a skill ceiling tier list too!
@ronaldwilliams9635
@ronaldwilliams9635 Жыл бұрын
Thats what I thought this was by the thumbnail
@Joe-hl2ts
@Joe-hl2ts Жыл бұрын
tracer genji lucio doomfist probably at the top
@Alargecheese
@Alargecheese Жыл бұрын
@@Joe-hl2ts nah, ball is at the top
@ondakojees
@ondakojees Жыл бұрын
@@Alargecheese Ong
@player80716450
@player80716450 Жыл бұрын
@@Alargecheese only a ball main would think their hero is hard to play 💀
@Aramyx
@Aramyx Жыл бұрын
I'd say Zen should be in medium at least, he was the support that took me the most to make him work when I was a newbie. While his abilities are sort of throw and forget, they are also intuitive, specially now that discord can be LOS'd easier.
@Toadiferous
@Toadiferous Жыл бұрын
Not to mention he gets dived so easily (probably the easiest character to dive in the game) so you have to be way better at game awareness and positioning
@BoomerElite4u
@BoomerElite4u Жыл бұрын
I think he low-balled Ana and Zen NGL.
@snc237
@snc237 Жыл бұрын
@@BoomerElite4u agreed. Zen needs to constantly be paying attention to everything which can be overwhelming to new people. He should be medium. Anna is hard. You have to try to lead your shots if not scoped and if you get dove you need to be able to hit her abilities. She’s hard
@frank8917
@frank8917 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the hard part of Zen are his projectiles
@daringiconoclast6547
@daringiconoclast6547 Жыл бұрын
@@snc237 you only have to lead a shot for sleep darts, hip fire is still hitscan I think
@TypicalCynic_
@TypicalCynic_ Жыл бұрын
I’d personally put Sigma in hard, he’s actually very difficult for new players I’ve noticed. The thing is, new Sigma players often forget about his shield and don’t utilize it enough, so they end up dying and getting no value.
@rythic3638
@rythic3638 Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@MrAnoymousBoss123
@MrAnoymousBoss123 Жыл бұрын
or they let the shield get destroyed, anytime i see a sigma leave their shield out of position i take like 3-4 seconds to just melt into it and someone else usually picks them off
@bonkchoy5544
@bonkchoy5544 Жыл бұрын
@@MrAnoymousBoss123 why does that matter
@MrAnoymousBoss123
@MrAnoymousBoss123 Жыл бұрын
@@bonkchoy5544 i find it fun to see shield go bye bye
@gaugea
@gaugea Жыл бұрын
i think beginners suck at sigma, but hes still somewhat effective. even if you forget about your shield and you only have it half the time that you need it as a result, the fact that he also has suck and rock makes him still pretty effective in low play. obviously this isnt sustainable and theyll end up hardstuck if they dont learn how to use their shield, but while theyre playing with and against noobs, its not too bad.
@epicbrofist6531
@epicbrofist6531 Жыл бұрын
The heroes without much movement options tend to be harder for beginners like Anna or symmetra but overall it's pretty accurate
@claytongreenlee7808
@claytongreenlee7808 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think positioning and decision making with someone like ana is more important often than mechanical skill, no level of aim can save you from dying in most situations if you are in the wrong place, and cant get value if you’re dead. I agree she and other characters should be higher
@SteveFard
@SteveFard Жыл бұрын
sym can just put 3 turrets and place the teleporting and idk just spam your secondary fire, or primary and you'll get a lot of value.
@chickenbob562
@chickenbob562 Жыл бұрын
I agree but you can actually use this to your advantage whenever I'm playing support I'm going Ana only, so nowadays I'm pretty confident with her shooting and hitting abilities so whenever I'm playing duos with my friend and he is a tank, I'm going and bait some enemies for easy team kills whenever I go frontline, I try to keep track off all enemies CD's and then I'm going in a super risky position when I know most CD's are down people will still try to get to you, and most of the time it's not only one person that's when you can initiate a team fight to your advantage without the fight even starting and everyone knows how quick Ana can turn tables in teamfights, so you also have a backup if something goes wrong coordinate this together with your tank and you can get easy as fuck team kills for a smooth push
@murvs6544
@murvs6544 Жыл бұрын
The ult for Echo is really what makes her difficult until you learn everyone. Her cooldowns are pretty impactful and you can easily assassinate tanks. Everything but ult is pretty easy to understand, but master, i wouldn't know yet.
@marziodimastrogiovanni127
@marziodimastrogiovanni127 Жыл бұрын
Low hp and fly make she really hard to play, Also cause you must go in for kill but out to survive
@Chizypuff
@Chizypuff Жыл бұрын
I really think flying and the rapid fire projectiles make her one of the hardest dps already. Very dependent on your technical skill and positioning
@paper2946
@paper2946 Жыл бұрын
I think a case can be made to put brig up a difficulty tier at least. Brig is pretty counter intuitive. She's a melee hero that really doesnt want to close, but wants to play against things that need to. Which is in no way apparent to new players, because her affordances give the impression that shes a frontline brawler and should be in the thick of things. And when their gameplay is already prone to various inconsistencies from lack of experience, they're not likely to understand why they die when they went too deep on the front when they get frequent reinforcement from other new players struggling to kill her there. I've seen a lot of new players gravitate to her because she looks simple, but just die repeatedly from inting and then swap because they see their healing numbers are really low.
@snc237
@snc237 Жыл бұрын
Ya i play with a friend that is new new to OW and I’m trying to help him out. He goes Brig and feels the need to frontline even when the other team has a junkrat. No concept of what counters them as well as what their actual role is. I tell him no you don’t want to be up front but then he goes “well then I’m not doing anything and feel useless”. It’s so hard to explain when to be aggressive and when to let the team fight come to you
@doylealbright8552
@doylealbright8552 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the hard part with her is there are times when you want to play super aggressively, but you have to bide your time and wait for your moment. Takes a lot of game knowledge
@SGhosht
@SGhosht Жыл бұрын
I usually out heal the other healer I’m with when I’m brig , plat- diamond , she has much greater healing potential than given credit for
@snc237
@snc237 Жыл бұрын
@@SGhosht ya I’m master (literally one Division out of GM) and a brig can easily out heal other healers if played correctly and the other team doesn’t try their damndest to focus you
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u Жыл бұрын
A lot of how hard heroes are has to do with how easy it is to hit them. Brig makes herself SUPER easy to hit, especially if you're bad at her shield. By contrast Pharah isn't that hard due to this -- bronze dps have a very hard time killing her especially with a Mercy, they hardly even know to look up. So I agree, Brig has a bit of a knowledge threshold to overcome before you can play her effectively.
@Blade_XV
@Blade_XV Жыл бұрын
Kiriko is considerably easier then ana and baptiste. One thing i think you forgot to take into account with healers is positioning and escapes. With kiriko you can always warp back to your team if your getting dived or out of position, and its much much easier to get farmed by enemy flankers if you are playing ana for example.
@sqoo5
@sqoo5 Жыл бұрын
I thought this too. Less aim, easier escape.
@willkrause7549
@willkrause7549 Жыл бұрын
Maybe so but warping is not always as easy as it would seem and sometimes screws you even more
@Blade_XV
@Blade_XV Жыл бұрын
@@willkrause7549 its not always easy but it is one of the best escapes other then Moira, compared to characters who have little movement its much harder to be where you need to be as a support, And not die repeatedly.
@Avatar_Brandy
@Avatar_Brandy Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Kiriko is as easy to get value out of as like Mercy or Moira. Your healing tracks targets and AOE on cleanse is huge and easy to get the hang of. Her ult is much easier than Valk or Coalescence
@draxielinhangie245
@draxielinhangie245 Жыл бұрын
i play tracer, and i freakinng hate kiriko. when she's 1hp, boom! she's gone. Also, her random hs, so stupid. Its make me scared to dive her. Blizzard nerf her plz
@morechoicer4496
@morechoicer4496 Жыл бұрын
Brig should go into medium or hard I think. I find that my beginner friends don't tend to have the patience or positioning and end up just playing her like Rein and dying.
@AdrianBalogh
@AdrianBalogh Жыл бұрын
I agree, and was going to post something similar. Brig requires an awful lot of positioning to play well due to being a melee-only hero. Yes, throwing healing pack from the back line is easy, but that's Mercy's job. On the other hand, if you charge Brig into battle thinking your shield will save you like Rein, you'll end up dead more often than not. At best, Brig should be Medium, if not Hard tier.
@Abstractor21
@Abstractor21 Жыл бұрын
Yeah brig requires a lot of game sense even more than any hero. Positioning when to boop when to use ult when to use the health packages and the most important part: when to use bash and go straight to a fight (evaluate if it's worth the risk ) People say she is easy but oh god are we in the same game? Every time someone pick her they die ALL THE TIME. Maybe it's easy for a GM that already has a lot of game sense. But for the average players? Brig is medium-hard honestly.
@arvidpetersson2252
@arvidpetersson2252 Жыл бұрын
Her 200 health isn’t helping ether
@p.4lvv
@p.4lvv Жыл бұрын
@@Abstractor21 as a wreaking ball main, brig is literally the only support I can play 😂, I just play aggressive, like dumb fuck aggressive, but not brainless, always move from cover to cover, and never be caught without shield-bash or rocket flail, cuz she’s a pretty decent character for 1v1 ing most character, but not all, but yea, I do also say she’s probably the support that need the most amount of gamesense, I always feels that her game sense is somewhat similiar to a tank, but she doesn’t have the responsibility to take space
@Abstractor21
@Abstractor21 Жыл бұрын
@@p.4lvv yeah I agree
@xickyr1611
@xickyr1611 Жыл бұрын
Something I've learned with Baptiste is, if you simply hold down both his primary and secondary fires simultaneously (left & right mouse buttons for me), by default he will automatically do his "shoot shoot heal" strat.
@yeahso8225
@yeahso8225 Жыл бұрын
When I use Baptiste I prefer fire heal fire, but thanks for the tip!
@Jeremy-ul4ph
@Jeremy-ul4ph Жыл бұрын
You can do that but it feels much less intuitive than actually pressing the buttons when you need , but baptiste does have very high APM so whatever works for you is ok
@padarousou
@padarousou Жыл бұрын
@@yeahso8225 depends how hard ur team is getting hit
@ultru3525
@ultru3525 Жыл бұрын
@@yeahso8225 that is probably better, but new players often have a hard time rapidly cycling between healing and doing damage, and knowing I could literally just hold both buttons simultaneously helped me get used to that play style
@icyman2
@icyman2 Жыл бұрын
For me, both Baptist and Ana are harder to play and heal especially than Kiriko. With Ana it's all about aim, her healing darts and sleeping dart. I think it's the hardest heal to play.
@slobroold8664
@slobroold8664 Жыл бұрын
As a new player id flip Pharah and Widow. It alot easier to hold space and spam into the general direction of the enemy than trying to actually get kills as widow and not get farmed by reaper or genji or any player that is better than you. Also I feel like down here at the bottom nobody really looks up.
@niteblooded
@niteblooded Жыл бұрын
I agree. I started with Pharah because I love her character but she is easy to pick up. A bad Pharah gets way more value than a bad Widow. Rockets are way more forgiving. Even a ground Pharah gets more value than a Widow who can’t hit her shots.
@asoidfhowehjr8248
@asoidfhowehjr8248 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Widow is as much positioning dependent as she is aim dependent. You'll just feed your brains out if you don't have both, regardless of how decent your aim is prior to starting OW.
@niteblooded
@niteblooded Жыл бұрын
@@asoidfhowehjr8248 Absolutely agree
@darthplagueis13
@darthplagueis13 Жыл бұрын
I think I agree with that. Widow can feel really awkward to aim, especially when you come from other fps games and aren't used to sniper rifles having a charge mechanic.
@Meese12
@Meese12 Жыл бұрын
I played post-rework torb a lot in overwatch 1 and with all the new players in 2 he's a dream. Throw the turret somewhere where the other team won't see it until the team fight starts, lob primary fires into their team before engaging, and just overload and rush them to get an easy pick or two. New players have no clue what to do, im effectively a second tank. I love it.
@Jeremy-ul4ph
@Jeremy-ul4ph Жыл бұрын
I like this playstyle too , arguably I find it harder to use his ult
@padarousou
@padarousou Жыл бұрын
I can never get turret down no matter where I put it
@unisexlettuce
@unisexlettuce Жыл бұрын
I've only played a few months and just used Torb a few days ago and he's probably one of my favorite dps out there. Go against new players and you can just take out their tank with Overload lmao
@faithstevens9666
@faithstevens9666 Жыл бұрын
Calling Widow point and click severely downplays how hard she is compared to a lot of other heros. Compare her to Ashe (who's in the same tier), who has Dynamite to help make up for the amount of shots that a "beginner" will miss which builds BOB. Widow is very feast or famine. If they're a brand new player they probably aren't going to be able to land thier shots and Widow doesn't have anything in her kit to make up for beginner aim. Her ult doesn't get any immediate value unlike something like BOB. I think her placement was the only one I really disagreed with specifically because you said "depends on how much fps experience they have" and the list is for beginner difficulty.
@shevek5934
@shevek5934 Жыл бұрын
To be fair a lot of players come to Overwatch new but have played FPS their whole lives, which is a very different experience than Overwatch as your first FPS.
@mangshu21
@mangshu21 Жыл бұрын
if two people focus her and her team cant deal with it and save her widow is throwing.. Looks easy but if you played this game long enough you know it aint easy.. Obviously this isnt true for gm+ but for most people hard focusing her does force her to switch
@hellsstrongest
@hellsstrongest Жыл бұрын
widows gun is also 50 times better than ashes gun
@favlam1408
@favlam1408 Жыл бұрын
@@hellsstrongest debatable. Yes, ash cannot one shot, so ceiling-wise, widow's gun is better. However, flexibility-wise, ash is not restricted by charge time, you can do the jump + shoot from cover better than a scope sniper rifle, and you have a better view from your surrounding.
@legu333
@legu333 Жыл бұрын
Widow and winston in the same difficulty I mean they both start with W anyway. Hell, just put widow into its own easiest category i mean just aim for the head, anyone can do that right? Amazing tier list.
@iciclei7756
@iciclei7756 Жыл бұрын
If you switch pharah and zenyatta places i think the list is pretty accurate. Pharah being called a "hard character" is actually the funniest thing to me.
@RobertLifts
@RobertLifts Жыл бұрын
True, Ana should be in hard too imo.
@brianq2558
@brianq2558 Жыл бұрын
i remember being new to the game and not understanding her flying mechanics, until i played her for a bit, so yeah id say at least medium for pharah
@thenamesmango7235
@thenamesmango7235 Жыл бұрын
I think ana should be harder, just because her cooldowns are excruciatingly long, so if a new player misses a nade or a sleep dart you’re basically a weaker version of mercy, even worse if the new player in question has bad aim
@TheFighter411
@TheFighter411 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I was actually really shocked that KarQ put her in Medium…I thought she’d be in Hard at the very least.
@sydneymcclements3648
@sydneymcclements3648 Жыл бұрын
I normally watch your main channel and didn’t know this one existed until today! I’m loving the casual vibe :) Great video - thank you!!
@kenallsop7502
@kenallsop7502 Жыл бұрын
Generally like this list! Agree with others saying escapes are worth factoring in for supports - might even push Mercy to easy as it can be a little intimidating trying to defend yourself if your team aren't looking out for you (which, at an entry level, they often aren't). I'd also make a case for Pharah in easy - at a low level, you can play mostly ground Pharah the same way you might for low level Lucio, and get lots of value off her generous splash damage and bursty ult.
@JTLam-pf3wb
@JTLam-pf3wb Жыл бұрын
I would say Ana would be at least a hard tier. I remember trying to main her when I first started Overwatch and she was frustrating to use. Her sleep dart is very hard to land and has a casting time. Also, although nanos are easy to land, they need to charge up. This requires a lot of aim. Her nade is probably one of the more easy abilities to use. However, it does have a smaller radius than you’d think.
@benhawk4214
@benhawk4214 Жыл бұрын
In higher level lobbies, she definitely is a lot harder to play, but at least from my experience, you can get away just heal botting your teammates in beginner matches, so that's what makes her easier to start out
@_Libosido
@_Libosido Жыл бұрын
To be fair, huge part of value for beginners is *survivability* - you cant get value at while you are dead. Kiriko is kind of easy hero, because you can play her like Mercy, but she have better ultimate, skill and survivability. Monkey is very ez for beginners too - you do jump on enemies, place barrier, hold attack button for aoe dmg and after barrier is down, jump back for heal, then repeat. Zen and Brig are for beginners nightmares, best choice is Lucio rather than pick them. Ana is very hard in my opinion and you need play the game while for map knowledge and you need to know value of your abilities and when use them in right time.
@tf6026
@tf6026 Жыл бұрын
Echo is kinda hard but in my experience I find her pretty intuitive maybe I’ve just played her a ton but I find her very fluid to play and understand
@Sothas
@Sothas Жыл бұрын
A noob player will get zero benefit to the team playing her
@tf6026
@tf6026 Жыл бұрын
@@Sothas yes but learning her primary sticky bomb beam combo is not tooooo hard to learn and will give u free kills once picked up
@milkchocolate8256
@milkchocolate8256 Жыл бұрын
you should do one based on skill ceiling :)
@jamborambo1102
@jamborambo1102 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that just a normal tier list?
@SLRFLR-cy5ks
@SLRFLR-cy5ks Жыл бұрын
@@jamborambo1102 0:30
@Htiy
@Htiy Жыл бұрын
@@jamborambo1102 I think he means how easy is it to reach the ceiling. Tracer is a good hero but would be an F tier in easy to reach ceiling
@Arhivite
@Arhivite Жыл бұрын
@@Htiy Genji would be really high tier in skill ceiling. It's not hard getting value with him currently, but his value and effort he puts can be greatly optimized. It's impressive watching people like Necros who have pushed the normal limits of playing Genji and developed some kinda robotic fast playstyle. Not every Genji player will play with such playstyle. And as I am familiar with that playstyle I know it takes thousands of hours to get consistent with it.
@zombor8249
@zombor8249 Жыл бұрын
@@Htiy But isn't that this tier list right here kinda?
@danegarcia457
@danegarcia457 Жыл бұрын
Sigma is hard. His primary fire is one of the least intuitive in the game. And bad sigma’s will miss every shot at close range.
@flaquito6296
@flaquito6296 Жыл бұрын
looking at the tier list makes me appreciate blizzards character design and how distinct each character is, youre never confused which character is which where as games like rainbow you pretty much never know who youre up against
@Hoodlet
@Hoodlet Жыл бұрын
I would say pharah is medium difficulty since being in the air gives a lot of survivability for beginners so they stay alive longer
@breadcat3535
@breadcat3535 Жыл бұрын
the thing is most beginners don't even know how to maintain air momentum and stay on the ground instead
@sthepcorms6747
@sthepcorms6747 Жыл бұрын
@@breadcat3535 But that doesn't compare to begginers trying Genji for the first time
@SnailSnail-lo4pm
@SnailSnail-lo4pm Жыл бұрын
@Bread Cat in all fairness it wouldn't be hard to figure out how to stay in the air as a beginner. Jet boost Super jump Jet boost Concussive blast Etc. Obviously it's a higher ceiling but it's not that high of a floor.
@Dapego580
@Dapego580 Жыл бұрын
I would move reinhart to very easy and Sigma, Widow, Ana and Baptiste to hard.
@tiberthescarecrow8649
@tiberthescarecrow8649 Жыл бұрын
Definitely Zen and Ana to hard, with the new 5v5 it's much easier to get backline spammed by heroes like Genji or Tracer.
@Lacke1
@Lacke1 Жыл бұрын
Ana is very popular in lower ranks since she gets lots of value very easily.
@adnanhussain9057
@adnanhussain9057 Жыл бұрын
I just started playing and have like 2hrs on sigma, he isn't that hard tbh. The hardest part is getting the rock to hit if the enemy is far away
@adnanhussain9057
@adnanhussain9057 Жыл бұрын
@@Lacke1 except when they nano the wrong person at the wrong time
@KingXhuntR
@KingXhuntR Жыл бұрын
@@Lacke1 as a tank main, i feel like im babysitting when i have ana, mercy or zen.
@rustypotatoes
@rustypotatoes Жыл бұрын
whenever you said “paper talisman” for kiriko i thought u said “paper towels” which you know same thing 😂
@Don_Quixote1
@Don_Quixote1 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see what you think for the skill ceiling heros.
@alexsvedegard
@alexsvedegard Жыл бұрын
I'd argue Reinhardt is a solid "Hard" tier. To play Rein "properly" you need a lot of game sense, awareness and communication. The way he's played to be put on "Easy" is by no means a good way to play Rein at all. One of the hardest tanks to use in my book. Also Sombra at "very hard"? xD
@justanatheist1583
@justanatheist1583 Жыл бұрын
As a grand master sombra player with 500+ hours on the hero, she's an easy tracer but still very hard, so i agree with karq no this one.
@raydo1998
@raydo1998 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree with the tank aside from hog where I would put on easy : I think new player are not gonna be used to the hook and they will either only use primary or only secondary fire not knowing at what range secondary fire start to be useless
@nigh7fire462
@nigh7fire462 Жыл бұрын
Hook is easy af to land
@raydo1998
@raydo1998 Жыл бұрын
@@nigh7fire462 I find so too but there is this little "leading" that you may have to get used too if they are far and walking sideways, it's not just point and click
@nigh7fire462
@nigh7fire462 Жыл бұрын
@@raydo1998 you have to admit the hit box for the hook is a bit generous
@raydo1998
@raydo1998 Жыл бұрын
@@nigh7fire462 Yeah definitly and I'm still saying Hog is easy for a new player but I just would have put him one tier down
@alotofbaddecisions2046
@alotofbaddecisions2046 Жыл бұрын
As an actual new player (with prior FPS experience though), I disagree with some. Rein and Brig: Hard. Being melee makes these heroes hard, because when to go in, when to pull out is hard to determine. Often you go in and immediately die. Zen: Hard or very hard. One of the toughest supports, just because he is so squishy. Needs crazy good game sense to survive. As a first time player on Zen, I just kept dying and dying, generating 0 value. Dva: Very easy. One of the most intuitive tanks to pick up and play. Her shift ability lets you get out of trouble meaning it's very forgiving to play her. And her Ult is very easy to hit on lower ranks because people panic and run away instead of hiding behind cover. Roadhog: Medium. He is OP now so he seems easy, but chain and shotgun take a bit of practice. A first time player will be trash on hog for a few games. Sojourn: Very easy. Just a very straightforward DPS with an assault rifle. And the slide to escape makes her forgiving to play. Pharah: Easy. It's easy to figure out you are supposed to hit shift, fly up and then spam rockets. The high blast radius makes it very forgiving. Other than that... I'd put Soldier, Junkrat, Lucio, Bastion on Very Easy since a first time player can just pick it and do well on their first game. You underestimate how much Bastion minigun shreds at low ranks because no one expects it or plays around it lol. And Lucio doesn't even need to click any mouse buttons to heal his teammates and be useful lol. Ana is harder than other precise heroes like Ashe and Widow, just because she is squishy and needs to hit those difficult sleep darts to survive. Baptiste is pretty easy and straightforward, left click kills, right click heals. Hanzo is easier than Genji since his arrow is just so spammable and you'll get random headshots.
@j-sun3821
@j-sun3821 Жыл бұрын
I think Bap can even be moved to easy. You got the aoe heal + insta heal no aim shift heal . Lots of value and he has his boots for a sort of escape and get to safer high ground. His gun is hitscan too which is easier to land if you've ever played fps game vs. zen and lucio's weapons.
@KyoHoliday
@KyoHoliday Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a side channel like the Karqives, KarQ! I've been binging all your videos alongside watching OWL lately and you are one of my favourite content creators. Thanks for making such unique and interesting videos for OW! Keep it up always!
@NicoPezzotti712
@NicoPezzotti712 Жыл бұрын
Today i met a guy that could play Doomfist. Not gonna lie, he giga smashed us. Cool hero when you know how to use it effectively.
@gdluacan
@gdluacan Жыл бұрын
thats high skill ceiling
@Sothas
@Sothas Жыл бұрын
He's capable of doing things. I've done things with him. I actually feel pretty confident in my fistability. That doesn't change the fact that he's trash tier right now. Lol
@kattastrophe7240
@kattastrophe7240 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, the first character I ever picked to play was Pharah & I played her pretty much exclusively for a long time. (OW was my first pc fps game so I was new to the game & using a mouse and keyboard.) I think I had a harder time adjusting to playing the ground bound characters early on when I started to explore other picks.
@ClaraBennett
@ClaraBennett Жыл бұрын
I think Lucio belongs in very easy. I think he’s the lowest skill-floor hero in the game. Every other support has to have some idea of where teammates are to get healing value, but Lucio doesn’t. He also has very good survivability in noob lobbies because he can just sort of hop around on the point and occasionally bounce off of a wall and actively heal himself and no one can kill him. Everyone in low-skill lobbies just beelines to the point anyway, so Lucio just goes there and exists with healing on and his teammates will find him. Source: this is how I climbed out of Bronze in Season 5. Mercy’s skill floor is low too, but I think it actually takes more skill to achieve basic survivability as Mercy, compared to Lucio. By default, her GA takes you all the way to your ally, which then puts you in a position where you can’t actually fly off of them again, and when your positioning and awareness is poor, your other movement options are often nonexistent. Oh, and Rez is without doubt the biggest noob-trap ability in the game. Beginner Mercy players spend a lot of time in the spawn room because they missed healing on someone and let them die and then tried to fix it by rezzing and died themselves. Edit: I think Lucio is easier to get baseline value with than Moira too. Sure, her heal spray is very forgiving, but it’s also limited and still doesn’t give great feedback about whether it’s actually landing. New Moira players run out of heal spray very quickly and then are totally useless, and heal orbs are very very easy to waste. If you go full-DPS Moira, that’s probably easier to get started with though.
@snoovian7951
@snoovian7951 Жыл бұрын
shoutout to the person who thought since sombra is finally viable she's an easy no brain champ. sure king, the squishy stealth character is easier than reaper, sure
@Weebfox
@Weebfox Жыл бұрын
For new players to just pick up and get value out of, super solid list. Personally I'd put Junkrat and Reaper in very easy and Sym in easy instead (Maybe raise hog to easy cuz they need to know the combo), but otherwise I agree with pretty much everything. Definitely a good baseline for brand new players to look at when deciding who to start with in order to learn the game
@Frostingale
@Frostingale Жыл бұрын
Junkrat needs a free value tier above very easy. He's disgustingly designed. Free 0 skill kills
@SnailSnail-lo4pm
@SnailSnail-lo4pm Жыл бұрын
Hog doesn't need to know the combo because pulling in opponents with a free half hp heal is enough. They don't die, are self sustaining, and can separate backrow from tanks or tanks from backrow to setup a team kill. It's not even that complicated to do either, just hook someone.
@bobbobby475
@bobbobby475 Жыл бұрын
Zarya is easy
@salvadortapia5558
@salvadortapia5558 Жыл бұрын
Fr that bubble last forever
@sqoo5
@sqoo5 Жыл бұрын
@@salvadortapia5558 .5 second nerf incoming and 1 second longer cooldown.
@king_kai_2937
@king_kai_2937 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Winston is hard to play for most people
@Gladius-clashmini
@Gladius-clashmini Жыл бұрын
Not in gold and below. Just jump in, activate your sheild and hold down primary fire
@Kaiji...
@Kaiji... Жыл бұрын
In Masters +, yes, he will get bullied.
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 Жыл бұрын
Knowing how far you can/should leap in with him (and maximizing his damage in the process) can be tricky sometimes. It's a fine-line difference between feeding and being untouchable.
@zdgfh6019
@zdgfh6019 Жыл бұрын
@@Gladius-clashmini stand in barrier and fire if they walk in you walk out if they walk out you walk in etc free kill on support or a dps out if position
@oxalate9549
@oxalate9549 Жыл бұрын
Sombra being harder than genji is a very hot take
@rhett3185
@rhett3185 Жыл бұрын
Especially in OW2 but I can see his points somewhat. For a new player Sombra is pretty hard, for an experienced player who knows what they’re supposed to be doing? Probably medium to just hard imo
@niteblooded
@niteblooded Жыл бұрын
Ya I definitely don’t agree with it. She is so forgiving right now especially with that 40% damage boost to hacked targets. And she can hack while invisible. I get where he is coming from but new players don’t really need to worry about coordinating with teammates. She is not easy but definitely not the hardest tier IF simply talking skill floor for a new player. Someone with a FPS background can learn to assassinate with her no problem and that’s plenty value early on.
@biomassobtained
@biomassobtained Жыл бұрын
I find it funny that I started the game in Overwatch 1 as Ball and he's still my favorite hero all these years later
@paradoxvr8827
@paradoxvr8827 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video I’ve been playing for about 3 weeks and I’ve been trying to find out which characters I’m good with and help me teammates in some way. This vid helps me realize why I’ve been struggling with certain characters 😅
@madmaxim3965
@madmaxim3965 Жыл бұрын
Best characters for new players, reaper, mercy, dva (when I started in like season 4 this was my go to hero you can fly around and her ultimate is super fun in lower level matches you can not even use her matrix and get by (I didn't use it correctly for so long haha) Reaper might be the easiest character in the game most people know intrinsically or from other games that shotguns are close range and he has an oh crap ability with his wraith mode allowing him to get out of had stops and beginners can just use his teleport to gain ground when coming from spawn Mercy is the go to character for anyone to learn the basics of a support class player you don't have to aim and all the info your UI gives like allies health and the exact health of who your healing or buffing you will learn quickly that you need to be behind your allies when healing, to keep an eye on everyone and to juggle when to heal and when to buff which will help you for more complicated characters and all the things you must think about There's alot of weird choices here imo
@stormRed
@stormRed Жыл бұрын
Wow! I had NO idea you could toggle Mercy's beam... I just might have to do that now.
@ktgdnhla3741
@ktgdnhla3741 Жыл бұрын
it is so much better fr
@celestialenigma3874
@celestialenigma3874 Жыл бұрын
Idk if it changed but in overwatch1 you could put it to where you guardian angel to your beam toggle as well that works really good in conjunction with that if I recall it does it as long as your not looking at another team mate so it makes for easy movement
@sam81832
@sam81832 Жыл бұрын
Ana is hard . Widow maker is hard too.
@rainyskyzz_
@rainyskyzz_ Жыл бұрын
Since you haven't seen a lot of new players playing brig I guess I could be the representative, as I'm a brig main with about 25 hours She is hard not to end up overextending with, when you are new at the game, but if you play a little more passively she is crazy hard to kill, when paired with another support
@darthplagueis13
@darthplagueis13 Жыл бұрын
Yeh, that's kind of the issue with her because the majority of her kit seems to scream at you to get into a brawl in the frontline to keep your passive going and make use of your melee weapon and short ranged attacks, but she's not really robust enough to actually be in the front constantly.
@SleepyTreant
@SleepyTreant Жыл бұрын
I think Mercy needs to be brought up to regular Easy because her mobility and survivability needs to be taken into account when it comes to new players. Staying alive for as long as possible, and then being able to get back into the fight as fast as possible once you die is so important for a Mercy to learn.
@Andymosity
@Andymosity Жыл бұрын
Ashe is def more difficult than medium. She doesn't really have too much bail potential from flanks, landing high value dynamites are actually hard and require good timing and aim, and landing headshot after headshot is just not beginner friendly. She's at least in hard or possibly in very hard. If you don't have an fps background, you're just gonna be useless on her. Like she doesn't belong in mid tier difficulty with the rest of those heroes. No freagn way lol. Good vid tho overall. Lovin the content.
@asoidfhowehjr8248
@asoidfhowehjr8248 Жыл бұрын
What? You press E + Mouse 1 into a group of enemies and you get dynamite value. You also don't really need to head consistent headshots to get value from her like on Widow.
@Andymosity
@Andymosity Жыл бұрын
@@asoidfhowehjr8248 Not really. If you just dynamite whenever, you actually allow the enemy team to easily heal it off and build ult meter. Besides, other characters have abilities that are just as easy to execute. "Just press shift bro". That doesn't make the character easy to use well, does it?
@asoidfhowehjr8248
@asoidfhowehjr8248 Жыл бұрын
@@Andymosity so then was cass hard to play even with flashbang + right click being an easy way to kill someone? Also, the point of dynamite is to mostly charge your own ult. In a strict 1v1 your dynamite is a big asset. Sure, her aim style is different, but I wouldn't say she's harder than soldier or widow at a skill cieling level.
@Andymosity
@Andymosity Жыл бұрын
@@asoidfhowehjr8248 Do you think dynamite is at all easy to even medium difficulty to use in 1v1s? Against good players I feel like its hard as hell to even find the time and space to land it without having taken lethal damage. I just think she requires a lot more brains than most other DPS's. She's my main, and every other DPS feels like easy mode to me. But idk I could be wrong. I'm relatively newer to OW, but high level in a lot of other games. Im not trying to be right here. Mostly trying to learn.
@kiyoshi3414
@kiyoshi3414 Жыл бұрын
sombra in very hard is the funniest joke ive ever seen
@Gabe7Gal
@Gabe7Gal Жыл бұрын
Any backline assassin character is going to be hard for a newbie. They either won't go for the backline and thus get no value, or they will try and just end up getting insta focused by the other team.
@mysticalassassin6168
@mysticalassassin6168 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you realize how hard sombra is. It’s funny cus anytime I play sombra (I have 1000+ hours on her btw) ppl call me brain dead and say I’m not good or Carried. But when anyone switches to sombra, they have absolutely no idea what they’re doing🤣 good players or not.. they don’t understand how technical she is and how consistent your aim has to be with her. Since her dmg has always been pretty inconsistent. Especially her spread on her weapon.
@crannnnnn7590
@crannnnnn7590 Жыл бұрын
I think Echo just got a buff from Bastion being added. Duplicate him and it's a pretty easy team kill if they are anywhere near each other.
@CristianLester
@CristianLester Жыл бұрын
if junkrat is a rat and pharah is a flying junkrat does that mean that pharah is a pigeon? cuz u know pigeons are like flying rats etc
@madamsamsara3210
@madamsamsara3210 Жыл бұрын
The fact you even considered Junkerqueen to be easier then dva just immediately discredits this entire list.
@riorangerz
@riorangerz Жыл бұрын
id put kiriko in medium honestly. i think hard is more thinking abt her skill ceiling, but honestly you can grab a lot of value out of teleporting away out of danger to your teammates or teleporting into a fight from spawn and saving your team with easy hold M1 button. medium difficulty imo but thats just me ^^
@chuchubag
@chuchubag Жыл бұрын
Agree! You could get so much value just by focusing on healing! Unlike Zen, for example, Kiriko doesn't NEED to land her kunais to get value. I would argue that it's even easier to get value with Kiriko than Mercy as the former has better carrying and playmaking potential. But eh, this is just good ole' gold me speaking.
@jeremijasskrabas5955
@jeremijasskrabas5955 Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, Im a new player and a noob pkayer generally and doing kunai kills is very easy, rhe harsest thing about her is her protection suzu
@snc237
@snc237 Жыл бұрын
I think hard is accurate. Here invincibility orb thang is a hard ability to use as it takes a lot of game sense and knowledge. Her knives are very hard to aim for a new player. She’s got good movement and heals but for a new player, theres easier heal bots
@gummidoggi
@gummidoggi Жыл бұрын
My favorite character is the reaper guy. he is very powerfull. special move, honestly is one of the best in the game and so he comes equipped with these two revolvers and only takes about 3 or 4 shots to actually execute a kill so it comes really in handy specially when you come from the side.
@tomioka8405
@tomioka8405 Жыл бұрын
Those are shotguns not revolvers
@gummidoggi
@gummidoggi Жыл бұрын
@@tomioka8405 its a copypasta!
@kaelthas06
@kaelthas06 Жыл бұрын
Only thing I disagree with is Hanzo, Hanzo's gameplay is the same as junkrat's with a bit more precision
@lakupandaakalakupanda1888
@lakupandaakalakupanda1888 Жыл бұрын
DUDE I GOT THE VIDEO IDEA OF THE CENTURY (Chance you already done this in ow1) How to win a mirror matchup 1v1 with every hero in ow2!
@katunu6030
@katunu6030 Жыл бұрын
I do wanna see that skill ceiling video. I kinda know where I can go as a beginner if I try hard enough.
@rachelhughes8487
@rachelhughes8487 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that at the absolute skill floor level Sigma is actually easy instead of medium, because even if you can't aim well, you can still do damage with the hyperspheres' splash damage. There's a lot of nuance to utilizing his shield and kinetic grasp effectively, but even if you have no clue how to use it, they're both still great for protecting yourself from flankers and bad positioning.
@cainsmyth53
@cainsmyth53 Жыл бұрын
I love ball but your right about him his skill ceiling is very high and often you never even see him
@hollowfied702
@hollowfied702 Жыл бұрын
Which is sad because I haven't been able to main him this game, I just can't find my groove with him being the only tank
@Outcastic
@Outcastic Жыл бұрын
torb junk and ashe were extremely difficult for me to learn, i don't know why. projectiles are hard and ashe's scope is nearly impossible to aim for me
@F1ow3rzzk
@F1ow3rzzk Жыл бұрын
Opposite for me torb and junk I do best with
@Sebboebbo
@Sebboebbo Жыл бұрын
Da king is back baby he neva miss
@zephr8786
@zephr8786 Жыл бұрын
as someone who used to play ow1 ages ago as a jr main, i honestly feel like soldier should be a tier below jr. it's only easy to spam a choke when you know where the chokes are and have a team that actually plays together (from playing a fresh account on ow2 after losing access to my original, this is very much not the case for new players) when I'm not feeling like i can get any value out of jr coz I'm missing shots too much, i just switch to soldier and immediately can be just as and generally more useful in almost all cases
@Abstractor21
@Abstractor21 Жыл бұрын
Brig and Lucio are medium-hard. Brig requires shield management (more than rein since you get involved in solo fights more often and you are not as strong as rein), when to go straight to a fight and use bash (even ML7 said he feed a lot with Brigitte he died a lot, is hard to know when to push with her and when to stay behind) and when to boop (don't help/save the enemy please...) and and when to use rally and when to use health packages (spoiler: not for the tanks, most of the time at least). Compared all this to mei or junkrat? No way she is easy. She was easy when she was broken and people still think she is. But she is a Melee character with 200hp. Just saying. With Lucio is easy to heal that's it, that's the only easy part of his kit, he needs a lot of mechanics ... lots of heals every 12 sec (amplification) won't be valuable at all. You'll lose every game. It's hard to win if you are just standing there healing at low speed.
@christianrivera5694
@christianrivera5694 Жыл бұрын
brig can be medium but lucio... come on he can just hang near anyone and have value
@Abstractor21
@Abstractor21 Жыл бұрын
@@christianrivera5694 a trash healing per sec is not value so idk. His strengths comes with amps, when to use it.
@alvinwhite8485
@alvinwhite8485 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the support role, but I do love playing wrecking ball and echo 2 of my favorite heros number 1 being zen, I just love their gameplay style, and overall design, soo im definitely going to continue practicing them more and more.
@kobedaniels3441
@kobedaniels3441 Жыл бұрын
How about a high skill ceiling video? Cause skill ceiling is different from skill floor
@Sideshowleon
@Sideshowleon Жыл бұрын
As a new player I main Junkrat his movment using the mines is so satisying to pull of
@mustysmells817
@mustysmells817 Жыл бұрын
This is a great list if you are taking beginner friendliness quite literally. The list would substantially change if you consider character maximizing and exponential skill gap. Maining certain characters early on is nice until you need to climb past certain ranks. Then you hit an absolute brickwall. For example most characters stay consistent from bronze to diamond, but the skill gap with zen/ana between gold/plat and diamond/master is nearly astronomical. You have to be a dps god with zen, and landing crucial sleeps with nade management is the hardest skill to learn in the game.
@Coolpirate18
@Coolpirate18 Жыл бұрын
thats literally the point of the list tho, no beginner to overwatch is going to be in such high ranks where any of that matters. the point of the video IS to take beginner friendliness literally, its for new players (or their friends getting them into the game) to find a place to start learning the core mechanics of the game without being completely overwhelmed and trashed as an insanely hard character.
@shevek5934
@shevek5934 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't put brig on easy. Most low level brigs just feed on cooldown. Takes some gamesense to survive on that hero. I also wouldn't put Roadhog on very easy, just regular easy. Actually new players don't know you're supposed to combo one-shot with your hook.
@yotsugiononoki5343
@yotsugiononoki5343 Жыл бұрын
Rip my doom mains who spent hundreds of hours on rollouts to become meaningless on the bright side we still have ball
@zc8673
@zc8673 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'd argue that any hero that requires gamesense over mechanical skill is going to be much more difficult. As people like Dr Disrespect proved way back when, even people with huge amounts of fps experience and mechanics still struggle a lot in OW because they just don't have gamesense. So while Brig might be mechanically easier, I'd argue she's actually much more difficult to get decent value from because she's such a gamesense heavy hero. Whereas Zen is super easy to understand because you just throw your orbs onto your team/enemies and then spam your damage orbs.
@dr_yt5496
@dr_yt5496 Жыл бұрын
Karq: Hanzo is hard Bro you wack is typing…..
@TheEmDog10
@TheEmDog10 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY YOU DROP THIS VID I BEEN WAITING. I been playing doom for 3 years okay I’m a veteran
@kiahypen
@kiahypen Жыл бұрын
i'm a support main so i'm legally obligated to put my thoughts lol. i'm viewing this tierlist as a "how hard it is to survive and get value out of each character ?" tier list btw also before i start, i think dva should be in hard :D ana: def not in medium, i would put her in hard. positioning matters for her a lot as she doesn't have movement abilities, so its very easy for her to die. her sleep darts are so slippery and it's hard to get any value out of them on characters other than tanks unless you have good aim. in OW2 though, getting value out of her anti is easier compared to OW1 ( due to barely any shields ). unfortunately though kiriko exists so if you have an enemy kiriko, a lot of anti nade value is kicked out the window. just like every other support ult, timing especially matters for her nano. it's either a hit or miss with it. baptiste: not in medium again, i would put him in easy. it's easy to survive and get value out of all his abilities. you can perfect your usage of his abilities, sure, but compared to ana it's easier to get value out of the abilities brig: she'd go in medium in my opinion. it's very easy to die as brig, good timing and game sense for her really matters and if you have neither then you get no value out of her. kiriko: she has a very high skill ceiling, but i don't think it's that hard to simply play her and get value. i would put her in medium as you need good game sense and decent aim to survive and get value. lucio: i agree with lucio's placement! he has a very high skill ceiling but to just get value and survive as him, all you need is decent movement. mercy: this is going to be an unpopular opinion but in OW2, there's of course way less shields and there was 6v6. now there's no shields for your mercy to just stand behind and people will be targeting her even more due to 5v5. i would put her in easy or low medium. you need to have good game sense, good timing and good positioning to get value out of her without immediately dying. auto super-jump has been much help though. moira: agree lol, she is very beginner friendly. zen: i agree with high easy, or maybe low medium, but there's a catch. once again, like ana, he has no movement abilities and it's very easy to die as him. he is one of the characters with a large damage output though so as long as none of the enemy team actively dives you and tries to counter you, you can get a lot of value from staying in the backline and dishing out damage. you do need to have good positioning though as him so you can be in an area where you can deal damage without immediately dying my opinions probably have a lot of contradictions but yea . thats my thoughts on the support placements . feel free to share if you agree or disagree !
@asoidfhowehjr8248
@asoidfhowehjr8248 Жыл бұрын
The thing is if you're new, every hero will be hard to survive and get value out of I think LOL. I think going with how straightforward the kits are is the right way to look at it. But at the end of the day I think newbies should go for who they think is fun to play, learn how difficult or easy the hero might be, and just run with it. That's how I became a filthy widow OTP in my prime. :P
@KenM_1987
@KenM_1987 Жыл бұрын
I'm a brand new player using Soldier, Mercy, Bastion, and Sigma. Thanks for the vid
@dethbygaming
@dethbygaming Жыл бұрын
Really surprising to me (not a "new" player as I've been playing since release but I don't play very often so "inexperienced" works I think) that most of the heroes I play weren't in the easy categories. My main is Brig, but aside from her I play Junker Queen and Sigma on tank, Echo on DPS, and Kiriko and Baptiste on support. Almost all of my heroes are in Medium, with one Hard and one Very Hard.
@monty6192
@monty6192 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being new to the game and founding out about karq, I would be blessed
@ZackyBonk1023
@ZackyBonk1023 Жыл бұрын
There's no way pharrah is on the same tier as genji kiriko and hanzo 😂😂😂
@SnailSnail-lo4pm
@SnailSnail-lo4pm Жыл бұрын
16:10 it's actually pretty difficult to play zenyatta. Harmony has to be passed around which takes meticulous attention to detail on everyone's condition and you need Los. Discord is pretty easy but only if either you can hit shots or you can tell who on the enemy team is being shot at. Otherwise it's useless. The orbs deal large amounts of damage (especially when boosted by discord) but they require immense skill and proper timing to deal meaningful burst damage against characters like tracer or reaper. Also, zenyatta is extremely vulnerable to getting picked off from speedy characters or snipers, making positioning and knowing how to handle enemies on your own key.
@HelalAndre
@HelalAndre Жыл бұрын
I had no idea that soldier's ult could headshot lol
@thegaminglord2190
@thegaminglord2190 Жыл бұрын
Genji is very hard for new players imo, not because of the skill floor, but because of how much "heat" he gets to himself, he gets his own sensitivity, when to right click or left click, map knowledge for climbing walls, health pack knowledge, when to poke and when to brawl, when to dash in without feeding, and on top of all that he's a hot character, whenever a genj8l is around he gets shot more than anyone on the team that's because of how dangerous he might be, and we didn't talk about blade you he's hardest kit yet, the moment you pop blade it's a 1v5 everyone is gonna ignore thier team and look at you, zen is gonna ult, Lucio? Already in sound barrier, they are ready for you trying to stop you even tho it's really hard to kill with blade due to how short it is and a 200 character will need 2 swings to die if he didn't receive any aid which is not how ow works, so yeah i think genji is one of the hardest. More so than doomfist i believe
@thecombozdude1073
@thecombozdude1073 Жыл бұрын
hes one of the easiest, all new players have flocked to him and reaper due to their insane ults where you just unga bunga
@thegaminglord2190
@thegaminglord2190 Жыл бұрын
@@thecombozdude1073 if your new to genji try him on Dimond or masters , hell try him in plat, you will get demolished, every shot counts , one wrong jump is death, fail to confirm kills and your screwed, sombra and zarya will literally leave the whole game and focus you, cuz normally, genji in those lobby are dangerous, cracked with skill so in order to win we have to disable genji, which brings me back to the same point of genji getting more heat than others, of course in silver and and gold is meh he's allowed to make mistakes, but the higher you go the more skill curve on him is insanely high, unlike sombra that can just go poof, and reaper that can just go poof and tracer that can just go boof, if a genji can't play his cards well he's a dead boi.
@thecombozdude1073
@thecombozdude1073 Жыл бұрын
@@thegaminglord2190 I just said that all new players flocked to him since he is easy to learn the basics of and his ult is unga bunga
@thegaminglord2190
@thegaminglord2190 Жыл бұрын
@@thecombozdude1073 and i said your wong, basics won't get you so far dude, you can't be a good genji, not amazing not crackin, just "good" genji without having at least 50+ hours on him, he's learning curve is huge, your comment is like saying "hey widowmaker is easy, players just go in click heads unga bunga this win" no dude, widow is fuckin hard, head placement , positioning, flicking this tracer, airborne headshots, there is a window that plays respawn simulator, and there is a widow that carry games, genji is the same
@thecombozdude1073
@thecombozdude1073 Жыл бұрын
@@thegaminglord2190 bro... all the new players went to genji because of his kit which is easy to grasp. NOT master but grasp. His ult is unga bunga run and click
@TheJazzhandz
@TheJazzhandz Жыл бұрын
Honestly widowmaker feels a bit harder because honestly imagine a beginner running it in smg and dying or getting dove by a hero and having no get out abilities. Im thinking hard is more accurate
@ThatKirigiriLover
@ThatKirigiriLover Жыл бұрын
I was able to learn how to play Kiriko and Tracer. Took a long time, but it was worth it
@Sayoh
@Sayoh Жыл бұрын
If this is really about getting value for new players learning the game, Genji should be on very hard lol. Most Genjis feed. I would swap Sombra and Genji since Sombra is easier than Genji to get value. Just my opinion, everything else seems on point :).
@BoahsLoL
@BoahsLoL Жыл бұрын
karQ you mention torb is easy based on his turret and overload? Do you not take into account how difficult it is to actually master his primary shot on good players
@crono6874
@crono6874 Жыл бұрын
As a returning player and someone who's playing with a lot of noob friends to the genre your list is pretty accurate, although I really disagree with Ana at medium. Imo Ana is the hardest healer for beginners because they seem to forget she's a healer.
@matejatezak9292
@matejatezak9292 Жыл бұрын
I started playing in November and I feel like Kiriko was much easier to get base value from than Baptiste. I personally also feel like Phara and Echo are not as difficult to get some value out of in the first games because a lot of times you just dont get shot while you are in the air and if you go to practise range for 5 minutes and try out air movement before the game, its usable already. Maybe thats just me tho because my aim is not so good and therefore i didnt go for the hitscan heroes first One thing i saw a lot in the comments and totally agree with is also brig needs to be at medium AT LEAST. In the beginning playing brig was just constantly dying for me because i didnt know when to engage and when to stay back.
@raydo1998
@raydo1998 Жыл бұрын
And for the healers I would put brig down a tier or lucio up a tier because, Lucio has clearly a easier time healing if you just exist and he can also survive easily compared to brig that has to get up close to be effective and I think people can easily feed trying to get their inspire up
@jxsh8691
@jxsh8691 Жыл бұрын
stupidest shit ive ever heard ngl
@raydo1998
@raydo1998 Жыл бұрын
@@jxsh8691 Sorry to say that you don't know the difference between skill floor and skill ceiling
@jxsh8691
@jxsh8691 Жыл бұрын
@@raydo1998 i do and brig has the lowest skill floor in the game
@willow3643
@willow3643 Жыл бұрын
“Just exist” you haven’t played this game since 2018 and are just now coming back huh
@raydo1998
@raydo1998 Жыл бұрын
@@jxsh8691 Tell me in what way it is easier than lucio ? I'm up for debate
@SeniorW00fers
@SeniorW00fers Жыл бұрын
Kirikos healing is much harder than you said it was for beginners. My trash teammates hit me with 1 talisman per burst when trying to heal me because they can’t aim. So i’m getting 20 hp per 2 seconds
@ludwigtheascendant
@ludwigtheascendant Жыл бұрын
I feel attacked :) I’m 100% new and got playing just bc of that kiriko cinematic, got the character and started playing/watchin guides. I have been thinking to bring my sens to 35-30% on controller, just to aim my talismans better Just have patience with us newbies😂😂
@asoidfhowehjr8248
@asoidfhowehjr8248 Жыл бұрын
I don't really think that's how it works. The healing is very forgiving compared to Ana. That newbies don't understand it fully is another thing.
@derpymist6346
@derpymist6346 Жыл бұрын
love these kinds of videos
@drewstream7243
@drewstream7243 Жыл бұрын
I’ve only played since OW2 came out and I’ve mained Pharah and Echo and just got good at Wreckingball for tank. (In that order)Those are my fav so far and quickest I’ve got good at. The movement is what saves me out of a lot of fights. Wreckingball is very fun for me just roll around every fight and slam on large groups of people🤣 I feel pretty decent my dudes are in hard and very hard lol. I’m about to unlock competitive then we’ll see where I’m at
@snc237
@snc237 Жыл бұрын
Good luck. I’m a masters veteran from OW1 and still struggle playing ball (with that said I play people my skill level sooo). Hey if no one is stopping you keep going to town!
@lev7489
@lev7489 Жыл бұрын
Watch this fella get flamed in silver 3 for playing ball
@artimist0315
@artimist0315 Жыл бұрын
I would move anna and sigma up a rank and Ash down a rank. Anna has very long cooldown and no mobility so a noob will generally get dived over and over again, noob don't know how to position safely to get value, and don't know how to use her cool-downs which is a very important part of her kit. Sigma has good survivability and you don't have to manage cool-downs, but his primary fire is very hard to aim and his shield hard to use, you have to remember to pull it back, know where to place it ... I think he is a hard hero. Ash just need to shoot to get decent value and her shots are very not that hard to land, even for noob. The high cadence of unscope is very forgiving and scope is intuitive enough. Like sure you need to know how to aim but unlike a widow, she doesn't punish you for not aiming properly. Her dynamite is harder to use but not necessary to her gameplay at low level, you just throw it somewhere, hope it touches someone, and then go back to shooting. Maybe cassidy is also pretty easy but I am less sure about that due to him having a lower fire rate, making bad aim less forgiving.
@NuggsDD
@NuggsDD Жыл бұрын
my boy doom needs some love :(
@shortfuse9443
@shortfuse9443 Жыл бұрын
Fr #RestoreTheTech
@nicholasthompson7340
@nicholasthompson7340 Жыл бұрын
When I first started playing OW1 I found Genji to be pretty easy. And he was my first Damage Main ( now it Junkrat ).
@gibberish2336
@gibberish2336 Жыл бұрын
can you tell me where you would put ramantra, or just tell me where it would be
@gesufacose9433
@gesufacose9433 Жыл бұрын
actually a tierlist that matters.
@TheJazzhandz
@TheJazzhandz Жыл бұрын
5:27 *angry surefour noises*
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