EVERY MAJOR CHANGE for Overwatch 1 (2016) vs Overwatch 2 (2024)

[@ciach0_]

Key changes that weren't covered in this video: - Rein has less steerability when charging - Cassidy's Deadeye damage ramps up faster - With Soldier, it's actually the other way around, his falloff is removed in the classic version when he uses visor, along with the spread + helix rockets home to enemies when using visor - Bastion has a ramping up bullet spread in both configurations - RIP-Tire had a longer exit animation

[@monkeytoes1155]

🤓

[@TheMurrmursonbottle]

i never knew soldiers helix rockets also homed in

[@ciach0_]

@@monkeytoes1155 bro what

[@Cbas619]

He didn’t mention Winston’s secondary fire added

[@name_mendokusai]

Also Lucio can kill the enemy if he lands onthem

[@smollmoth6376]

Playing classic Lucio as someone that is fairly competent at modern is so depressing lmao. The wall ride felt so bad lmao.

[@ibraxiv-_-6653]

For me it’s not the wall ride that’s horrible it’s his damage and projectile speed. It feels weird having to lead your shots even in point blank against a widow

[@JovialSkunk]

Lmao. Lmao, even.

[@_narrows]

@@JovialSkunk how do you manage to get a simple phrase so wrong

[@JovialSkunk]

@@_narrows Reread his comment and then reply again

[@Crumpling]

Feels like shit to play but having artillery healing is quite fun

[@stormyseas5193]

The only thing i miss about old bastion is how fun bastions old ult was. Man i wish we could have that back

[@soulshade6079]

So much cooler then the ow2 ult

[@yutro213]

I still remember vividly when I unlocked the "Cute" spray back in Overwatch 1. Not only I single-handedly saved the match for my team (killed both enemy tanks, stopped the payload less than 5m during Overtime) but I also got the POTG too.

[@_narrows]

I'll never get over the fact they replaced one of the few skillful ults and replaced it with Meteor Strike 2™ for absolutely no reason

[@formulangelo_]

I think it's just that his current ult sucks willy they need to either change it or buff it

[@brilliantlysplendid]

The problem with it though was that it could actually kill people and you’re not allowed to do that anymore

[@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII]

I really hope they keep overwatch classic as a permanent game mode. Every now and again you just want that nostalgia hit

[@patricklodge1576]

That nostalgia is terrible maps and horrid gameplay

[@Pyro_1989]

But that nostalgia only hits because it's limited time and once in a lifetime

[@Bad3abdul]

@@Pyro_1989 agreed

[@BackLever22]

Erm no

[@sagaositygamez785]

I'm not even really sure what the benefit of classic would be besides wanting to play tanks with each other, which is what the 6v6 tests would be aimed at developing later Sure, nostalgia and all is involved but there's a difference between oh this was a fun time to play because of x hero existing or not existing vs the game being unplayable because no one is playing support

[@KingKongers]

pretty sure lucio's speed boost when amping was also way higher in classic zen's tranq healing was also 1/3rd of what it is now (100 hp/s compared to 300 hp/s)

[@Daddix0]

200hps not 100hps

[@bigbirdbirdbird]

yeaaa for sure, when i get lucio speed boosted in classic i have to recheck myself to not go ice skating full speed around the map lol

[@velknight9224]

Alot is missing for the Genji comparison, namely: Dash locks you in its animation longer in ow 1. Wider right click weapon spread, Slower fire rate, Slower blade swing but more damage (120 compared to 110 in ow2)

[@fartgod2432]

Unmentioned change: Shotguns are completely RNG as opposed to the current spray patterns

[@LucreDenouncer]

Not _true_ RNG though. The pellets were somewhat evenly--distributed. You never had the them entirely on the left side, for example. But that would've been possible if it was true RNG.

[@fartgod2432]

@@LucreDenouncer thanks for the correction

[@_narrows]

"but we're actually going to skip over all that it's not too important for the average player" i imagine making a video like this is tedious and time consuming, but turning on "show accuracy" and shooting a bot as Tracer a few times is where you draw the line? lol

[@yazan_q]

Rein also didn’t have the ability to steer well during charge

[@renniereen]

ive only seen 2 heroes covered so far but noticed he left out baby d.va's faster firing rate as well

[@canovanthecanman]

I like overwatch classic, but really, it’s super unbalanced and kinda horrible sometimes. It’s either the most fun I’ve had playing overwatch, or literally the most stressed I’ve been. Overwatch players will come to realize that it’s not the OG game they enjoyed, but the state of mind they were in when they got it.

[@destructo3457]

"Most stressed" bro it's a quick play mode why you getting stressed over this 😭

[@icoughed4991]

people love the OG game the problem is this is TOO far back. Some of the best years for me would be like before brigs release. Hopefully in the future they might bring back something like that.

[@beeree14]

U act like people were saying classic was the best ow1 state lmao no one said that. Best of ow1 beats best of ow2 anyday

[@Shipiiiwp]

@@destructo3457 u can still not enjoy or be upset at gameplay even in qp, it isnt like being toxic in qp, thats just dumb but finding something annoying or stressful is very reasaonble, example genji with 8 seccond blade is super tiring to fight and makes the game feel one sided sometimes if u dont have perfect counter

[@NinjaPickle]

​@@icoughed4991They've said this isn't the only rendition of this mode they are doing. They have stated they're going to be jumping to various different eras of Overwatch history, such as Moth Meta and Goats Meta. Still unclear if they mean that they're doing that during these 3 weeks or if it's in the future, but it seems we're staying with Launch for the remainder of this event and in the future they'll be doing other time periods from Overwatch

[@retrolinkx]

13:13: Something that wasn't mentioned for Mei is that her ult was smaller in radius back in OW1, it was 8 meters instead of 10 meters.

[@uchimatan]

Also, her icicles actually have dmg falloff, which was removed mid-2018 only (!), minimum damage is 22.5 at max range (don't know exact distance). Probably the only projectile weapon with damage falloff.

[@IFreakinLovePickless]

​@@uchimatanorisa's primary used to have falloff going into ow2

[@TabletopJunk]

The balance from these days has a lot of issues, but seeing all of the changes over the years, especially when framed as "look how much worse this character used to be", really shows the over abundance of power creep in the games current design. All these limitations and commitments you had to make in the classic version of Overwatch lends itself to an easier to balance game with clearer readability of danger when you'd see enemies commit to a move. You'd know if Rein was out of the fight for a bit if he missed a charge, or when Genji's deflect period would end, or reapers shadow step would. Pharah and Junkrat and Mercy weren't nearly as mobile making you really choose when to use your limited bursts of movement. In the coming years they reallly did away with a lot of limitations across the board, which I'm sure some people prefer, but it makes sense to me why balancing is such a nightmare right now, I feel like the power creep got way out of hand.

[@shyguy9634]

I agree, mobility creep, ease of use creep, and changing core parts of the game like cc and fall off to be too forgiving or too unforgiving were horrible mistakes, imo ow 1 in its release state is more fun than ow2 has been in a while, and its not even nostalgia like people keep saying its just that ow 2 truly is a bad game. I'd rather fight 6 torbs with level three turrets with 5 Winstons and a mercy, then spend another second in trashwatch2

[@tlkfanrwbyfan8716]

Watching hook 1.0 grab someone after doing five 90 degree turns and not break is THE funniest thing to me

[@BuyMyBeard]

One thing you forgot to mention about Genji Ultimate is that if you get interrupted and die during the cast animation, the ult is fully refunded

[@acorn1265]

Yeah but thats for practically everyone though. Tracer goes for Pulse on the Cree, get stunned to headshot combo, dies but she still keeps the ult. Same for Rein. Man I gotta admit. It was funny to see new players who didnt play at launch go "yo wtf I stunned the Rein, why does he still have shatter???"

[@neptuneairslash3867]

Notice how every single one of these ults build faster in classic despite health pools being stupid strong on the live version. btw I like your videos!

[@plumble1784]

Adding to Lucio's clunkiness, he didn't get a small stacking speed boost when jumping off walls like he does now, meaning that most tech like wall skimming is just useless as it gives no speed

[@willwunsche6940]

They need to put Overwatch Classic patches into Arcade. Give them their own little slot and rotate the legacy patch every day. They already have three patches after the current on lined up they could add to the rotation. Getting legacy hero kits in custom games for like Doom Parkour would be awesome too!!!

[@trihard7clap440]

im surprised you didn't mentionned that hanzo's ult could be dmg boosted back in the days, could kill through zen's ult, good old days

[@dopamine9269]

i was wondering if that worked in classic as that was the most unfair thing back in early ow1 legit free teamfights

[@kasm7870]

He could only kill through Zen's ultimate because Transcendence was 200HPS, it is now 300HPS, meaning it could only kill if it could be boosted by Amp Matrix

[@mattphyx]

​@@kasm7870 it could kill through Zen's ult if Zen and his allies were caught in Grav, even without damage boost

[@kasm7870]

@ On its own it couldn't. You would need other people shooting.

[@Jarool21]

​@@dopamine9269I've not had it work, but I haven't tested extensively. Maybe it does, but gives no feedback.

[@xXRandom_UploadsXx-hj2tk]

I’ve missed the armor packs so much as a torb player 😭

[@Spazbo4]

you forgot that dva doesnt get mech recall if her ult doesnt kill anybody

[@setamakoto]

Really? I don’t recall this

[@Bighoodiekid]

so overwatch 1 mei was just objectively stronger in every way but people still complain about her in overwatch 2 ? 😭

[@EndsOnAWin]

People who stuck around for Overwatch 2 were the complainers. A lot of people who played OW in 2016 are probably just playing Fortnite or BO6 instead

[@shiion6711]

That's true I have played since beta and mei is really strong at launch

[@mattphyx]

Which is funny, because at launch Mei was considered to be terrible and a trollpick lmao

[@ghostridernz17]

​@mattphyx its why the game was fun back then. We were all terrible at it compared to today. It was like a year before Mei ever got nerfs or was even noticed lol

[@fritzkraut5833]

Her Beam back then was crazy strong because the slow was massive and the stun practically meant that you're dead in most cases, but for example her current Icicle is way stronger (it does more damage, and doesn't have any fall-off-damage-reduction anymore).

[@Ferndouglas]

He's listing all the limitations like its a bad thing but i really miss all the limitations on these abilities. Theyre all so cracked now

[@ice-dogg]

12:07 hanzo arrow speed was nerfed from 125m/s to 110m/s

[@incomplet1396]

its wild seeing power creep in action, most of these changes were made in 2 years

[@Aregulargameplayer]

Ana was released just a few months into OW launch. Powercreep happened early.

[@piusdoe8984]

??? How does karq show hard facts and then you make up your own.

[@shiion6711]

I like how people are comparing the first version of ow1 with the latest version of ow2 and not comparing the latest version of ow1 :>

[@shyguy9634]

​@@shiion6711I don't like it ;_; ow 1 was literally way better than 2, will probably ever be unless they make this permanent and literally undo their mistakes which people keep cope'ing saying stuff like they can't or sh, bruh make6v6 just give heroes cc back lower their HP stop releasing new heroes and fix your new ones since ow 1s tragic death.... I literally get on ow just to look for something fun anything fun, luckily this mode and the arcade mode they made have kept me from quitting. Ive been playing this game too long....

[@extremelight9258]

I never played Ow1, so I have no nostalgia toward it. I've been enjoying the classic game mode. It feels nice that things actually die without massive health pools, AoE and burst healing and Support immortality cooldowns. The main thing that's missing from the mode is hero lock so players can't spam the same oppressive hero and also some QoL changes for some heroes so they feel better to play like Lucio and Dva.

[@dopamine9269]

those are the same criticisms that were present in 2016 and hero spamming of more than 2 of the same hero doesnt work well and can be easily countered once you know how and if your team has at least 1 healer (which never happened much)

[@shiion6711]

Yeah if they made role lock early ow1 would not have goats

[@dopamine9269]

@@shiion6711 goats was fun just repetitive since it was the undisputed best comp

[@SpeedKing..]

Spoken like a true newgen

[@lobsterfork]

Hitbox on genji deflect is like double in OW1 classic. You missed that.

[@Kris95x]

Honestly, the 5 man resses wasn't an issue back then considering how things died easily.

[@totomen666]

Tss, don't disturb Blizz shills, let them shill and cry in joy of OW2, they are so cute in their self-denial.... and these people wonder why Trump won, lol

[@shiion6711]

Yes now one rez is a big big different if it's a carry or a tank

[@mostunique5941]

You’re telling me that brining back the whole team after they’ve been wiped by pressing one button isn’t an issue?

[@Hyrule409]

@@mostunique5941 DvA Ult: AoE Insta-death ability :D Reaper Ult: AoE almost Insta-death abilty :D Mercy Ult: AoE resurrect ability D:< I literally was never able to wrap my head around this.

[@artimist0315]

Symmetra only had 6 turrets during her first rework (the one with photon barrier as an ability and shield generator as her ultimate)

[@IFreakinLovePickless]

No, she had 6 turrets in this iteration as well. It's just that she could have 3 ready max at the same time. Once she placed 3, she had to wait for the next ones to be available

[@bowii9993]

i wanted to see rip tire speed comparison, it hard to believe it used to be SOO SLOWW

[@ibraxiv-_-6653]

Also Lucio beat drop gave 500 hp instead of 750 but decayed at a lower rate to match the current day beat decay time

[@ibraxiv-_-6653]

Also for widowmaker there’s no animation lock for unscoping your shots so you can unscope and quick scope instantly without suffering too much from the movement penalty of the scope in

[@RatoNoiado]

Tbh they didnt need to go so far back in the game 💀

[@SonicJr]

note for reaper's tp: it could actually be canceled if the enemy hits you with most attacks

[@mattphyx]

Also Blizzard got Sym's TP hp wrong in Classic. Prior to her first rework it used to have regular health only, instead of having shields as part of it and it's overall hp was lower, but as a Sym player I'm def not complaining about that, it makes defending the TP a lot easier lmao

[@billyr2904]

The fact that venom mine did self-damage is kind of stupid.

[@charris1200]

classic is severally unbalanced. Maybe I'm getting old, but I kinda liked how slow the game play was. It is more chill to play.

[@palool6]

I enjoyed how much slower it was as well, I do think its a little *too* clunky, but its miles better than the sheer amount of speed and movement is nowadays.

[@ghostridernz17]

​@@palool6ig you're forgetting lucios speed in this shi is faster than anything we have now? And we didn't have insane speed uptime till juno.

[@palool6]

@@ghostridernz17 his movement speed buff is faster than anything now, but all the other characters (except for maybe Genji's moonjump) have slower/clunkier kits, so the overall movement is still way slower

[@judgement7279]

people wasnt cared about balance and every lose was still fun because you played new interesting game and even loses was a positive experience

[@seananthonybenoit]

My favorite part is how the original characters retained all of their stats almost in the open queue format of ow2, which means everyone else scaling, means tanks didn't. I gotta admit, tanks only having 25% increased HP, but with armor changes and damage falloff, makes a big difference.

[@genuinelyjames4821]

dva was SO weak in ow1, it’s insane!! i’m looking forward to the upcoming versions of classic and hopefully they make a playlist of the classics in the future

[@generictoast7678]

so tanks were actually tanks in overwatch 1 instead of fat dps in ow2

[@Erik-lr5hd]

One thing that wasn’t mentioned but that gives me so many good memories and feelings, was that Widow scope animation isn’t locked when scoping in and out. I swear, it makes the character feels amazing, it was sooo much smoother compared to the modern version, and made very skilled widow able to play even on the payload instead of the back of the map, because you could unscope for a split second, jump, and scope back in, that is sooooo underrated as a mechanic, I would take any other change they gave her to have this scope animation back, like reduce the OHK range even further, remove the venom mine wall hack, even give her 175hp but please give us back that old scope animation, it made the character so much more interactive, with less hp and shorter range it would be much more of a “high risk high reward” type of play style, instead of a laid back clicking heads annoying one. I know that snipers are supposed to be playing at further ranges but this is overwatch come on.

[@NotniwOW2]

Made me realize Widow server admins would not exist today in Classic had Blizzard checked their Math

[@plabcentral630]

Reaper really shouted “IM GONNA TELEPORT BEHIND YOU” in the og. Great stuff.

[@patrickazzarella6729]

another thing about Mei in 2016 is that Blizzard didnt show its dome effect, it only appeared as a ring on the ground leading to some awkard highground deaths because it didnt properly display itself

[@Stefan-cl4og]

My best "realization" moment: in classic, defense, I got ult on symmetra in 12 seconds. Teleporter. Done. Good luck winning enemy team and I literally did nothing.

[@TheGreatPewpyOne]

Teleporter doesn't win games. Lmao unless your opponents are paper bag 5

[@shiion6711]

​@@TheGreatPewpyOne2cp is very strong

[@mattphyx]

​@@TheGreatPewpyOne it allows your teammates to come back to the fight basically instantly after respawning, which puts a lot of pressure on the enemy team to destroy it asap, esp if Sym is played on defense. I also had a few clutch games with her where I put the TP down on the payload/point right before dying after enemy used their ults, allowing my team to immediately turn the fight, esp with Mercy's res ready

[@-L1K-]

This was a fun comparison

[@amonkey98]

Sym teleporter is broken on Numbani. On point 2, the teleporter is actually behind you since the spawn was moved up. And on point 3 the teleporter just doesn’t exist in the spawn room at all, despite the exit point still appearing in the map.

[@Zer0_Soul]

You forgot to mention the cowboy legally changed his name too!

[@CelticB]

I forgot how much better the gameplay felt before all the healing and monility creep. I wish they could have kept that while addressing the awful balance and clunkiness of some heroes

[@DulceneiaMinaj]

Mercy also fucking kills herself everytime she resurrects in classic, don't forget that part They literally had to buff rez to make her invulnerable during the cast or else she just died. Even then she was still likely to get killed considering her limited mobility

[@א.ב-ו9ס]

for turb is called cookies to get you 75 armor

[@TheWaInut]

This mode was cute for a bit but yeah some stuff I'm glad we moved away from. However there are some things I missed.

[@notoriousmike3307]

I think it was a thing where they want people to know just how far they have come. And they came a VERY long way. If rein was this slow in base game hed be dead. No use

[@Ilacnairda]

I haven't seen anyone mention the most important change that I well and truly missed - Tracer can Recall out of a Zarya Grav

[@GodSlayerZancrow]

Reaper can wraith and Mercy can GA to an ally as well.

[@--Glory--]

So much is missing that you didn’t cover here

[@Aregulargameplayer]

People talking bout powercreep when Tanks and Supports are at some of their worst ever in launch but DPS are having a ball lmao

[@Tardis1217]

This is totally feels like blizzard going, "oh you want 6v6? Let me show you how bad you used to have it. Let me show you how AWFUL our game was before we made it better!!!".

[@nicolasleroux5302]

In the final year of OW1, que times for DPS and Support were 5 minutes. In quick play. 5 v 5 supremacy 💪🏻

[@dopamine9269]

yet its so much better than modern overwatch

[@EmpereurListe]

Like Blizzard, youtube creators and everybody say, THIS IS NOT THE 6V6 TEST, IT IS JUST A MOD FOR FUN.

[@snewp_e2139]

@@EmpereurListeexactly, they literally said this in their recent dev post 😭 people just conveniently happen to ignore it

[@GeDUSK]

Are you for real? It’s obvious this game mode is for shits and giggles, anyone that considers this a serious test for 6v6 is out of their minds.

[@zackftw2748]

I’m pretty sure hog does 9 damage per pellet. Multiply that by 25 pellets, then that means he is able to do 225 damage BEFORE headshots. And as a hog main, I love it😂

[@technopat3]

Another thing blizzard missed when Sym TP didn’t always have shield health. Thst was a change in 2017 it used to just have regular health

[@tarango759]

Notice for old torb ult : back then, 1) if u died during ult, turret went back to level 2 and 2) popping ult would fully healed the turret.

[@ItsBigDyls]

I remember hanzo used to keep a charged bow when wall climbing, but they didn’t revert that on classic. It makes your re-pull your bow after wall climbing

[@GodSlayerZancrow]

He didn’t have that on launch. It was a later buff

[@FancyDakota]

When characters actually had an identity instead of being Super Tank, Generic Damage Hero, and Support Heal-Bot. 😐

[@LimeCat_Games]

The first thing I did with Symettra, was used her ulti off the map lol... only og players knows playing with friends this was the most crack up thing to do lol

[@bigzealot]

They should have done 2016 this week and 2017 next weekend etc etc

[@bingoviini]

Not balanced, but more fun and existing Like Ow2 hog is just a bullet sponge that dies to a single support cooldown, but Ow1 hog is a scary bullet sponge with a midrange oneshot. Not balanced but way more fun and unique

[@aaronolson6736]

Ideal changes after looking back to 1.0 would be Bastion's Assault form regains the 200 ammo and infinite duration but does not regain the crit damage (possibly even reverting the damage because mobile) more importantly though is reverting his ultimate to Tank form, maybe drop the bonus armor. Torb turret should get the rockets back during overload, even if less damage/slower fire rate. Give Reaper souls back (maybe just reducing the lifesteal to compensate, now being part of the weapon function) and remove Mei's beam pierce for hinder at least.

[@kejll30]

this video was exacly what I was looking for

[@bynosaurus4024]

i wish they did different eras of ow1 throughout the event, i'd kill to play the game again right when role queue was first introduced

[@Dornvud]

Imagine giving bastion players to choose between two ultimates:0

[@saad1549]

I’m 99% sure torb used to be 200 hp no armor

[@monkeytoes1155]

6:28 those are the same thing bro

[@IFreakinLovePickless]

No?? Jump is mid-air, but mid-air is not always jump

[@setamakoto]

Seagull is the first ever to talk about change for that mercy 5 res ult

[@Purpylek]

That explains why widows are (as always but more) so god damn annoying on classic, legit if I'm playing attack and see 3+ widows on classic I dodge instantly. I am not playing COD just to play snipers. Period.

[@Dooky-mv1by]

i don't understand why they never gave Genji a real buff throughout the games lifetime

[@sonic26000]

Sym's classic turrets also only had 1hp at the time as well, vs 40 hp now

[@是老鼠-j5l]

I remember Lucio’s boop only knock people horizontally back then

[@LoridaMan]

Hot take: they should bring back the Ult percentage ticking down from 100 to 0 instead of immediately becoming 0. Ults feel less consequential than ever with Ult charge being harder to build, and many Ults being able to be fully negated by normal abilities.

[@kingofhenz4139]

Wow the power creep is crazy

[@tasin2776]

Genji's deflect hitbox was a lot lot bigger back then

[@Hippity_Huppity]

Hanzo’s ult used to be able to get damage boosted by mercy, and it outdamages zen ult; so grav dragon was busted

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

why didn't they add back the widowmaker's gyatt expansion?

[@judgement7279]

btw on release mercy's gyatt was also bigger and was nerfed later. It's a pity that not many people know about this

[@ZainePittman]

The changes on Roadhog are reverse for his Ultimate. In the red should be the transformation which cannot be cancelled, and the green should be the channeled, cancelable note.

[@Nuxinus]

10:18 helix rocket was chasing the target even if you dont aim at it

[@sakitoshi]

>junkrat was absolutely terrible take that back! the mine having no fall-off is something i would gladly trade for the double mines he has today.

[@konplayz]

His name is and was McCree, not Cassidy 😂

[@muneebow]

You missed one thing. Reaper used to do 140 damage per shot if all pellets hit. Noe its much less. I think 100 now

[@SirStrikeFreedom]

Mind you, this is launch OW1 and nor peak OW1. So I wish we had that

[@albdre7511]

There are fun little things in Overwatch Classic that aren't mentioned while there are little things in the current Overwatch that are mentioned which makes me feel like karq is a little biased No one asked for the first version of the game but we wanted Overwatch 1 at its peek with the old abilities that we missed, I feel like it's an attempt to convince players that Overwatch 1 was always like this while in less than half a year since the game was released the balance between the characters has been greatly improved

[@AimRobot]

They first thing I noticed different was, movement didnt feel the same and sound effect I cant tell where people are, sounds like everyone is either far away or on top of me.

[@allenhelmuth2214]

Every other character makes sense, but I don't see why Mei drops a soup when reaper kills her no way she has one.

[@Aceries_]

The older a game is, the better skilled its player base on average will be. And game devs have to compensate for it. I've seen the same happen to DBD. Lots of gimmicky or unfair-feeling abilities (Mercy rez, widow insta-tap, etc.) and strats (goats) are no longer available to encourage constant engagement. This feels like looking at a rough draft of a paper I wrote. It has charm and the inspiration is there, but it makes you appreciate all the tweaks and feedback it took to get where modern OW is.

[@ibraxiv-_-6653]

Also torbjorn didn’t have 200 hp 50 armor he only had 200 hp. And there’s also a bug when torb is resurrected he doesn’t get his 50 armor back returning him to the correct hp pool

[@wHiTeSoL1998]

so thats why widowmaker feels so painful now, like i know she can yeet 1/2 of a tank's hp back then but i dont remember it being THAT painful, like i recall playing torb mostly just because the additional armor wont let me get 1-shotted, but for some reason i can get 1-shotted now even with the armor no wonder all these sweaty tryhards are all popping off as widow

[@OzcanGuzelhan]

Finally, DVA isn't overpowered

[@hulkman245]

I barely play McCree in OW2. But in classic I've only played him so far. I almost forgot how OP the flash, fan, roll, fan combo was 😂

[@Tomasz987987]

Oh my dear Symmetra.. how much I loved you..

[@GriseWeisshark]

I'm still disappointed that they changed Bastion's ult probably for the sake of keeping one of his abilities static. The tank mode is more fun and has more skill expression that the artillery ult.

[@alyyftq]

Hey KarQ! I found your videos almost 2 months ago and it helped me learn how to play Overwatch a lot! Could you make an updated video on Counters or Playstyles (Brawl Dive Poke?) thats one thing im really struggling with, finding good options for the situation but I cant find an updated recommendation for what heros to play in what situation (i.e counter new doomfist & winston OR widow post sombra nerf). Thanks in advance!!

[@elitedragoon6484]

I been loving bastion, just for Tank mode ult. I used to rocket jump all the time in ow1 and fall in love with it again. I hope they bring it back as his ult. His ult in the current state with Mortar is just terrible and less fun and interesting. Tank form was way more fun to use, rocket jumping on places easily for verticality and it took a lot of skill to hit the tank shells. It felt balanced and useful at the same time, even if old bastion was terrible.

[@judgement7279]

idk you can call me weird but i liked simplicity, like im enjoying playing mercy much more than in ow2 because of limitations, i have more time to think and skill ceiling is reduced so almost no matter what I do mechanically it will be difficult for me to screw up and this gives some strange feeling of peace

[@loogiemusmaximusoftides8540]

I miss Symettra's Mooninite orbs