The Most BROKEN Metas In Overwatch

[@rexoverwatch]

no hero limits is the natural counter to the sniper meta, because you can just pick 6 reinhardts

[@Letriccat997]

Or 6 wreckingballs

[@mariustan9275]

or 6 winstons

[@anotherchannel8648]

Or 6 Zaryas

[@brandoncole5533]

Or 6 Sombra

[@duszek81]

Or six mercy's

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

In a way i respect GOATS, it needed everyone to succeed, In a team based game it is nice that the most dominent meta required soo much teamwork

[@7gugts3d4ROBOTufyuguhihimpl9]

Yeah i think it was fun

[@temmlygaming5509]

Double sheild also kinda did if one person made a single mistake gameplay wise you would almost instantly cause your fight to be lost

[@bluefaygox23]

@@temmlygaming5509 This is especially true when talking about the Orisa Rein and Orisa Sig comps that were ran back in the day. With Rein Sig you had a little more leeway but any of the Double Shield comps that had Orisa needed to be played “perfectly” in a way. Old Orisa in my opinion had less margin for error, making almost any comp she was in very tight knit and obsessively compulsive. Double Shield was so egregious at times, it felt like if you weren’t running Orisa with Rein or Sigma, you were going to lose. It didn’t matter what the enemy team comp was, if your team wasn’t running Orisa Rein/Sig, Double Shield wasn’t viable. I feel like that era of DS was far worse than GOATS, with GOATS you at least knew we’re all playing the same but you didn’t always have to play DS; the more I think about it Double Shield is wayyyy more PTSD inducing than GOATS ever was… Somehow GOATS is better than the Moth and Double Shield metas.

[@Ecdemaniac]

But it got too a point where it needed too much teamwork, you would mess up 1 single cooldown and lose the entire game over it

[@waterrr6332]

Goats was fine imo, just that it lasted for an entire fucking year

[@zepchir]

Dive was so dominant they added a whole new hero that countered it - Brigitte. She was so overtuned, she had a whole meta (Goats). She was the reason for role lock because she terrorized the whole game for years. And then Double Shield only possible for Sigmas insane Shield HP and Baps Lamp. I am so glad the Overwatch 2 Balance Team actually fixes issues often. Even dropping hot fixes or trying out new stuff. Could you imagine Mauga Meta for two years bc the Team wouldnt know what to do?

[@alexrennison8070]

For a long time since they sorted her out Brig has been a balanced & fun hero though, that’s when I actually picked her up.

[@utk8718]

You forgot the one that started it all, dive. If dive wasnt that strong, brig probably wouldnt even exist

[@azzafromtazza7744]

I think the fact that dive has outlasted most of, if not all the metas listed in the video is a testament to how it’s a very strong comp that requires a fair bit of coordination, but it’s not broken.

[@grumpygoo7951]

@@azzafromtazza7744 dive meta is not the same as dive comp

[@mikesdynasty1]

Brig is hot though so in all this works in our favor ☺️👍

[@lincelink]

Og, I remember that. When Brig was released, she becames my main sup. She could stop ultimates, the annoying tracer, stops res, a charging rein... She was amazing.

[@isaacargesmith8217]

I feel like being was the equivalent of burning your house down because your neighbors saw someone try to break in the night before at your house

[@OfficialFo]

10:10 goats actually got its name from the contenders team that invented it

[@jk-nj6yo]

Thank you for reminding people 🙏

[@zepchir]

this

[@chuyyou]

Yeah, why did he say that 😂.

[@ishtarrs]

@@chuyyou because the team that had the name goats said its stood for GO All Tanks & Supports

[@chicknrnb]

I thought it was called goats because it was all the strongest heroes in one comp

[@ethanpinky4502]

Orisa, Roadhog should’ve at least gotten an honorable mention. The halt and hook combo was so op, especially when halt had a larger pull than Grav

[@NonJohns]

that meta was very interesting reaper doom hog orisa zen ana just a ball huddled up while doom reaper played hit and run

[@Az00069]

True! Another one that was less known about but was also really good was Orissa Winston with Winston diving in on the halt. Worked really well on Junkertown attack with a Bastion & Bap or Anna on or near the payload with Orissa and a Pharmacy in the air backing up Winstons Dive. I promise it worked. It was all about everyone waiting till the Pirate ship rolled into their LOS then Pharah & Winston go in and hit them from different angles! Was a straight steam role most of the time. (Speaking from a Plat-Diamond players pov)

[@fashityrainian]

Pulled Pork meta

[@feelingrizzly1515]

Hanzo's Scatter Arrow was replaced by Storm Arrow before Double Sniper Meta. Storm Arrow was the actual crux of the comp because Winston would get absolutely blown up by Storm Arrow, making Dive unplayable at the time.

[@bowaster57]

It was something like 6×80 damage at the time, arguably even more OP than Scatter Arrow.

[@feelingrizzly1515]

@@bowaster57 it was absolutely more powerful than Scatter Arrow in the hands of a good player. Absurd burst damage with added mobility to create distance from dives when lunge was introduced.

[@Vexity-n4n]

​@@feelingrizzly1515It's 80 damage on release also meant that Mercy damage boost bumped it up to 104 allowing you to one tap a squishy

[@senpaipugs]

i remember wayy back in the early days of overwatch before even hero limits, there was a strat for specifically koth maps where you would play 2x lucio 2x winston and 2x tracer and could hold overtime for what felt like 10+ minutes in some cases

[@Squidaredumb]

6x meis 💀

[@TerminatorZXY]

2:40 - Hackfist could stand up to GOATS but not that consistently, GOATS was still too powerful. Even a ton of nerfs wasn't enough, it still dominated. They finally killed GOATS when roleQ came.

[@theFeedJ]

They also nerfed doomfist and sombra and hackfist fell into obscurity.

[@REENKATT]

@@theFeedJ I had a solo queue match recently where I played doom and one of our dps was sombra. Only the two of us ended the match with 40+ eliminations and we had 3 deaths each

[@aydenfellerhoff3160]

@@REENKATT current doom is a shadow of his former self

[@qwooperdooper5209]

Slight misconception, GOATS does not stand for "Go Only All Tanks and Support." The strategy was named after the team in open contenders that first discovered it. I mean, it can mean that if you want but that's not where the name originated.

[@destroyerofkharazan]

The team that came up with the comp was the one to confirm the "go all tanks and supports" thing tho...

[@qwooperdooper5209]

@@destroyerofkharazan No, they didnt

[@damired]

​​@@destroyerofkharazanthey did not

[@givrally]

That's the perfect example of a backronym.

[@damired]

@@givrally what does your nickname stand for?

[@Staymare]

I remember moth meta had Mercy at a 95% pick rate with a 55% winrate in competitive. The statistics of that basically dictate you are certain to lose if you did not play her. To this day she was statistically the most OP hero OW has ever seen. I think people have memory holed the truly baffling state mercy was in for a couple months because it was more fun to play than double shield, but as far as balance goes it was by far the most broken meta of all time Also GOATS stands for Greatest Of All Time, the tier 2 pro team that first ran the goats comp, not whatever acronym the video said.

[@cristobalgarces1675]

I hated Moth Meta. She was probably her best after her first rework as you could still counter full team rezzes (Zarya Grav, Mei Blizzard, D.Va Bomb). But, she did look really fun to play as at her peak with how fast she was in the air. I'm pretty sure I've seen quickplay matches of her having almost 30 Rezzes.

[@GhostyBoi7737]

Mauga meta was the worst. It was during winter break so not only was it not fixed any time soon, but also everyone was online for the holidays, all playing the broken new character

[@jicklewickle]

BOTH HEARTS PUMPING

[@Tha10n3m3me]

Mauga still dominates lower rank PC lobbies and all rank console lobbies due to his 100% lifesteal. And some players just know when to use it

[@thoryvos3095]

HAHAAA

[@CarlosRodolfo-ss1ld]

@@Tha10n3m3me Nahh mauga is far from being the most dominant tank on console, especially when one of his counters (D.Va) is the actual most dominant tank in the game.

[@omarsali2990]

​@@Tha10n3m3meas a low ranker mauga really doesn't dominate

[@joshuk8112]

Great video, just a little side note - GOATS was only "broken" in very high level / pro level due to the teamplay. I played during OW1 and was in the low ranks and rarely saw the exact Goats COMP. ALSO, in OWL it was more common to have a zen instead of a moira due to the value of discording a tank and focusing them

[@AgentLando]

Yeah, and even then, near the end, GOATS was solved and beat by the Ball triple dps comp

[@chuyyou]

Double shield too.

[@NotOki1]

@@joshuk8112 wasnt it referenced as korean goats since it was the korean scene who really could take advantage of the swap?

[@SkyHammerTPK]

Absolute facts, I personally quite liked GOATS and generally quite a fan of Brig. But the amount of hate GOATS got considering it wasn't a viable comp and practically didn't exist below high diamond really irks me, like there's no way the amount of people that complain/ed about GOATS actually saw it played ever especially to the point where it "ruined the game". Granted that's where I think too many average players listen too often to high level/pro players

[@lincelink]

Yep. Every time I saw them trying it in low elo We just used a Rain or a Pharah and some imagination to stop them

[@NotOki1]

Something small that sadly goes unnoticed is the citing of youtube channels clips. Awesome video :)

[@neya7902]

having played overwatch so long it's so weird to hear "DRAGON STRIKE" and "GRAVITON SURGE"

[@theradiumgirl9298]

Because everyone just calls it "dragons" and "grav"? It's so weird to hear someone call an OW ability by its whole name, like "u l t i m a t e" instead of "ult"

[@thebluecomet3974]

Were forgetting pulled pork. Orisa x Hog. It was painful. Abysmal. Tragic

[@jjyurin]

Some facts about the GOATS meta for those who didn’t play at the time: - The main composition was Rein, Zarya, DVA, Lucio, Zeny, and Brig, but there were alternative versions, with Moira or Ana replacing Zeny, or Sombra replacing DVA. - It heavily relied on team synergy, so outside of the competitive scenario, it was rarely seen (especially in lower ranks). - DPS heroes were frequently buffed in attempts to shift the meta, but nothing could stop this composition. - Almost all OWL matches were mirror matches; if I’m not mistaken, only Chengdu Hunters didn’t use it. This even led to memorable clips, like a team coming out with a different comp, seeing the enemy was running GOATS, and going back to base to switch. - The battles lasted a long time and were quite monotonous, but if one player died, the entire composition would collapse. - This meta was responsible for the 2-2-2 role lock, as only with this change did it cease to exist.

[@cristobalgarces1675]

I still think the Moth Meta was more overpowered than Team Rez Mercy. She was able to earn almost twice as many rezzes than she did in her old kit. She she got nerf after nerf after nerf for the longest time. And you just reminded me about the terrible Pirate Ship meta. My only possible counter for that was Mei where she could ice wall the Bastion up.

[@apinecone2753]

The counter teams for pirate ship were usually hilarious too. I miss those goofy ass metas from OW1. FUCK brig and fuck Valk1.0 tho

[@Shellw2]

I don’t think you realize HOW unbelievably broken Mercy was in her peak. It was hilarious

[@B0n3Z145]

Suprised that you didnt mention sojourns rocky release alongside maugas, she was terrible on release, it was another one of those every peek your dancing with death situations

[@pipipi5118]

Yeah but since she required aim most people didn't realize how broken she was

[@jackmcmorrow9397]

You forgot to mention that double shield only worked because of Baps lamp picking up the slack while the barriers were down.

[@Spockston]

I hate that the byproduct of OW1 balancing is dive being strong, and defensive play being weak.

[@John_President]

Double Lucio, double Tracer, double Winston in the very early days of ow1 was pretty silly too lol

[@InfiniteBeers]

Way back had 2 leavers and still won a 4v6 comp match on Eichen using Pirate ship: Rein, Orisa, Bastion and Mercy. Biggest clutch game I’ve ever played but makes your realise how insane that comp was

[@Jackjackjackjackjackjackjaque]

Nice vid! GOATS evolved over time to be Rein/Zar/Dva Zen/Brig/Lucio over time as people, first the pros, realized tranq is stronger than coal, discord is busted, and you have more damage overall. also before OW2, there was that hog sig meta going around. It was basically double sniper but it was so dominant after they gut orisa and left hog to do his own thing (not their last time lol)\

[@scarpusgaming]

tranq? as in sleep? i think you mean transcendence.

[@Valeria-r5j]

Double shield with bastion, mercy and bap was called a “bunker” team composition and this was devastating. I remember when doomfist and symmetra was in meta in that days only because of full shield ignorance from doomfist and charging your microwave on sym just from the shields, also dive tp can destroy bunker setup pretty unexpected

[@ngelemental2274]

Nothing felt as good as April fools broken Ashe with her tnt that spread to nearby people but was glitched and once it spread to one person it would spread back to the person already on fire and then it would be an insane feedback loop and then you’d team wipe their whole team

[@Kornflaxus]

there was this era, where everyone played hog and the fact if your hog was better or worse than theirs decided the outcome

[@bowaster57]

We used to call that double sniper meta 'Dragonball meta' (Grav = Ball, Dragon = Dragon), for anyone who didn't play/know.

[@BagelBoi4000]

goats doesnt mean go all tanks and supports I swear that was just something people made up. It was named after the team who invented it... GOATS.... as in greatest of all time?

[@redknight100]

yes, it was named after the team. But that same team confirmed what it stands for

[@slimemonster0381]

6:15 “he sits towards the bottom of the tank pack right now” *gulp*

[@hyperray4337]

one more thing about the mauga meta. pros would pick echo, not only for the increased dps to try and burn down mauga, but to also get... TWO maugas. echo would dupe the enemy maug to double the maugas you had

[@SightScyTT]

“Overwatch had always had a lot of trouble with balance” An understatement my friend.

[@ReaperReginald]

Sojourn + Mercy rocked OW2 for the entirety of the betas and lasted until 2023 when they finally changed how the rail gun gains charge from damage calculations to a static increase of charge per hit. But everyone was figuring the game out still so it probably only really affected people who played against a sojourn w/ good aim

[@rage_tv4493]

first time hearing about hack fist my reaction to sombra “perhaps i’ve been to harsh on you”

[@thergaming168]

Hackfist was also called Space jamais, because grave + slam was hilarous!

[@efkrdnz]

I remember one time enemy had 6 Dvas and out team went crazy. It was like impossible to even achieve anything in the game. Worst part was it was a ranked match. So we did 6 reinhardts and it was safe to say it looked like a WW3

[@jamillozgamer1063]

this is a great channel glad you popped up on my reccomended

[@jjdraws]

U decided to go with this thumbnail good choice

[@venomgaming7014]

Overwatch classic: the pirate ship. Bastion on payload, with the team goose guarding bastion in sentry mode.

[@genericasianperson6405]

I remember climbing up to high diamond as a rein zarya two trick back during double sheild and bunker meta which was insane for me considering i used to hang around mid to high gold

[@yoshi12370]

I remember when double shield was starting to get out of hand and people realized that Symmetra was a great counter to it because she could bust shields easily......and a week later they nerfed her hard yet they left Sigma and Orisa untouched for years :^)

[@itsovertoolate]

2:38 what a missed opportunity to call it brafist

[@TIGORRE]

Owl turning into goats mirrors and now owcs having mauga meta mirrors is an interesting pattern

[@Az00069]

Genji was good with the speed boosted Nano too! I think they should give Genji a passive speed boost with his ult to bring it back.

[@Majster4K]

You convinced me with that runescape soundtrack. Subbed with pleasure

[@mrman3372]

your videos are very refreshing. you have a nice way of talking about bad stuff. keep up the good work.

[@TheWatchOverOW]

Hey, I get a lot of comments, but this one means a lot to me. Genuinely, thank you from the bottom of my heart. In my content, this is one of the things that matters to me most.

[@Mocita]

Not a meta, but I always enjoyed doing the old 'Backdoor' play. Have a Symmetra sneak past the enemies to the point, then bait the enemies to "spawn camp" your teammates while you set up your Teleporter. By the time the enemies get back to point it will either be captured or close to being captured, and your team will be turtled up to defend.

[@paco9585]

you forgot when genji got a shuriken dmg buff which made every game a nanoblade horror story

[@paco9585]

or when shields got nerfed and zarya and hog got buffed, so the game felt like a 6v6 battle royale

[@kaiocrap6965]

Even thought they’re gone, I will always remember fondly on how I raged at most of these metas ❤😂.

[@oliver.smedley]

Congrats on 20k 🎉

[@luffynotcringe]

My favorite overwatch youtuber

[@VWGolfGTIMK1]

your alive! i was so worried mr watchover im sorry i missed the stream you caught me pursuing my educational prowess

[@WAHegle91]

If I had as much protection as Bastion in the double shield meta, I wouldn’t be paying so much in child support each month.

[@marshellcraven7801]

Good ol pirate ship hella busted in lower ranks

[@arnabnath3242]

DC double sheild and goats was peak

[@ganondoofd4281]

Pharmacy+shields was a horeendous team comp to fight, usually the second healer was ana so the tsnks wont die, the supports are out of reach and the dps are being boosted/guarded

[@BatmannotBruceWayne1]

Few things Tempo ressing has nothing to do with the Moth meta, Tempo ressing was about usage of the ressurect ult. The hide and seek meta wasn’t a problem competitively, Tempo ressing, which was ressing earlier, closer to 2 people was generally more effective. The rework was supposed to address Mercy’s hide and seek from being a play style at all, and in this it was successful. Also no, goats does not stand for go all tanks and supports, Goats was named after the contenders teams that pioneered it. And that comes from the term goat, which is short of greatest of all time. Goats was not exactly Rein, DVA, Zarya, Brig, Lucio and Moira. Moira especially fell out of favour as people started realising no, you don’t need her insane stats, you’d much rather have Transcendence and discord orb. This also ignores perhaps the greatest strength of goats, its adaptability. Swapping out the zen/Moira for an Ana was a real consideration on certain maps, and they all had different strengths. We also saw teams swap off of the DVA for something like Sombra, and this was how Seoul Dynasty ended up ending NYXLs winstreak during Goats. We also saw teams swap the Rein to Winston on certain maps. This was still all goats, but the deck was adaptable And saying goats fell apart after one member died also just isn’t true. Freauently, as long as exactly Brig, Zarya and Lucio stayed alive, the fight was not lost. Some people do say some positive things about double shield, not many, but it did require huge amounts of teamwork, and you can see that in the clip you showed. Pirate ship was also way before double shield and role queue. Pirate ship was just a bunker comp (which basically always existed in some sense, but especially after the release of orisa) that set up on a payload, as opposed to being set up on defense (although when Sym’s teleport became an ability, it did start to see some play during Goats, as hard bastion bunkers were one of the few things that could actually crack it (and even then it struggled).

[@SleepingVillage]

Go all tank and supports is a backronym. The comp was created by the contenders team named Goats and was named after them

[@TheKittencatter1993]

:D hey I'm the Sombra in that last game 😂😅

[@aerinie6704]

pirate ship isn't necessarily a double ship archetype, it's just what orisa-bastion comps were referred to since long bepfore when it was known as a cheese comp for payload maps. bastion later became a staple in all gamemodes during the second part of the double shield meta when the reaper-moira-lucio core was replaced with bastion-baptiste-zen. like goats, double shield went through several changes as the devs tried to balance it out. the sigma nerf in particular made the meta go from a slower deathball without any consequences to a more methodical defensive ability rotation management game where a misplacing a cooldown by 1s could mean you lose and get wiped by bastion. it was awful

[@darthoak5453]

You in fact can hit 20k subs before the end of October

[@vanvan7383]

This video gave me ptsd in so many ways

[@konradnemeth9789]

Great vid! However, I don't think GOATS stands for what you mentioned. Goats was called goats, because a contenders team called goats was the first one to play it

[@oponentgull186others4]

I’m shocked joats wasn’t mentioned. Or the pocket rail gunner that dominated ow2 for half of its lifespan. Joats caused junker queen to get nerfed into the ground.

[@sethtfp2373]

6:12 I hope this is a joke

[@dabigboylee980]

Anyone else remember in OW1 where there was a week where Zarya Hog was a thing?

[@jt2163]

Only reason mauga was so broken was cause streamers kept saying he felt weak during half season test when he wasn’t

[@hulkman245]

I can't even put into words how much i hated the double shield with bastion and Baptiste. Especially on Volksaya industry second point. Where the bastion could just sit in the corner on point

[@blindAyeKay]

That’s so weird, I played during the scatter arrow days but I don’t remember nano giving a speed boost. Granted I never played Ana then

[@NonJohns]

death blossom + nanoboost was called beyblade because of how fast blossom was. you could even combo with Lucio and mannn no speed cap made reaper go ZOOM

[@raileite5994]

0:47 He actually lost scatter about one year prior to Brig release.

[@AidanMadden-wm6eg]

Teleporting bastion was my fav thing to run in ow1

[@geert574]

'high quality vids' come now this is Stylosa level

[@Sahilow]

lol the last clip is from quote not dafran?

[@Type_blazenil]

Juno brig is going to evolve into a problem, and i cant wait

[@CosmicEncounter7]

Only thing I disagree with was that double shield lasted until the end of OW1. If it was still the meta, it wasn't nearly as oppressive at the end, since Sigma and Orisa's shields only had 3 digit health. Sigma had like 1600 when he first came out, meaning you basically needed a bastion to punch through it, but by the end, there were at least other options. Great video though!

[@sutorikusu]

was looking for this !

[@grizzlymint6792]

You forgot to at least throw the orisa ult to hog hook combo in the honorable or dishonorable mentions, lol.

[@aidenjohnson3116]

I’m surprised I did not see the infamous bastions sig Orisa and bap window

[@bennettcombs7784]

with thirty something heroes it will always be hard to make it perfect

[@Klausplayssplatoon.]

I’m surprised hog orisa pull wasn’t on here

[@DaSmolPotato]

no bc double sheild is the whole reason I don't want 6v6 to come back, like I don't want to go through that hell again spending 20 minutes just shooting sheilds.

[@Fetch-]

5:32 so he was uncounterable you see team play is scarce

[@mangocad189]

It’s not really a meta but Quinston rolled an OWL championship back in the day

[@ccdxdhk1575]

I was a low diamond player during the heart of goats and it was never a major issue. Required too much coordination for most teams

[@jordandonovan1109]

Goats wouldn’t have been that bad of a meta if it just didn’t last as long, overall it was pretty cool to watch, it just got way over played in pros and top rank

[@X8ATT0SA1X23X]

"double shield nearly drove the player count to extinction"....no blizzard did that all on their own

[@TheFinalUncannyGirl]

Mauga was the bane of my existence as a support because I couldn’t focus on anyone else and if I didn’t heal the mauga we lost because the other mauga was getting sucked off by their supports 😭😭😭 I stopped playing for a while

[@kornflaeck6681]

everyone always forgets when the game just launched and you could have 6 bastions sit on payload in ranked

[@cursedchild]

20k before October the end broo let’s gooooo

[@strawberrana]

Pirate Ship was chill

[@Ethia778]

I enjoy our current speed based meta it just feels a lot more fun since everyone is just themselves but faster

[@tenthshadow3764]

Is no one going to talk about Brig when she was first release. She has stun, she was tracer worst nightmare and her ult make her gain a shit tons armor and increase her shield. She can eat a roadhug ult without dying.

[@trbz_8745]

Double shield alone wasn't the problem. Bap Lamp is what made it so unbreakable.

[@axeyouaquestion]

Not mentioning soljourn mercy meta is criminal.

[@zer0_iz_d34d]

Correct me if i’m wrong but wasn’t there an Illari meta when she was first released?

[@drakolord5137]

I never played ow1, but i know that double shielding or pirate ship will not exist if ramattra was implemented (the pre season 13 one)

[@Dr3aMy00]

You forgot to mention moth meta, Mercy rez was instant, and IT GAVE THE RESSED PERSON DAMAGE IMMUNITY for like 1 second

[@M0nk3-m4n]

The no limits game mode. All Torbjorns. Video about that pls

[@M0nk3-m4n]

Thank God I’ve watched the streams, I wouldn’t wanna get in the way of that cat

[@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l]

It sounded like at some point your channel name was going to be Watchtower, but then you just thought: nah, too lazy I'll just reverse the name and ignore that quote from the Facebook movie and throw in a "The".