Katherine de Kleer: Planets, Moons, Asteroids & Life in Our Solar System | Lex Fridman Podcast

[@lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Fundrise: fundrise.com/lex - Blinkist: blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free - Magic Spoon: magicspoon.com/lex and use code LEX to get $5 off 1:27 - Pluto 6:35 - Kuiper belt 10:32 - How to study planets and moons 14:15 - Volcanoes on Io - moon of Jupiter 26:46 - Is there life in the oceans of Europa? 36:07 - How unlikely is life on Earth? 46:36 - Life on Venus 48:50 - Mars 55:37 - What is interesting about Earth as a planet? 1:06:15 - Weather patterns 1:11:25 - Asteroids 1:20:27 - Will an asteroid hit Earth soon? 1:29:10 - Oumuamua 1:44:20 - Book recommendations 1:50:58 - Advice for young people

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do sober october!

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Thanks

[@petermonis4616]

@Lex Fridman Hey Lex, please, try to get on this podcast Randall Carlson, thanks, love from Slovakia.

[@mgenthbjpafa6413]

Cosmology, astronomy is very much my field. So the Bias.

[@mgenthbjpafa6413]

Anechoic chamber is to go or both to sell summer night dream's? Both are OK. Well done.

[@wasimshaikh1665]

She has very organized thought process. Lex is jumping topics but she manages to get the question, process data and give very comprehensive answers. Also like her way of articulation. Spot on.

[@nortonantho]

He uploaded at 2:43AM PST. Probably means he crunched all night to get this out. Thanks Lex.

[@lexfridman]

4:43AM in Austin. And yes.

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Your pain, our gain. It's very much appreciated. Thanks Lex.

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@@lexfridman Your dedication does not go unnoticed - thank you for the consistent and great content!

[@korokshiding]

Just love how Katherine navigated Lex's various thought experiments!

[@leedsdrumacademy]

If by "navigate" you mean "quietly wait for him to stop talking", yep she nailed it!

[@davidregi7571]

@@parrogakaparadise9477 what do you mean?

[@HkFinn83]

He had a bad day. I think he’s been fasting for days. It messes with your sleep and concentration and everything. I don’t think he skipped the research and prep just because she’s a woman, wtf

[@Aroy1987]

I warms my heart to see these wonderful nerds speak on such things with a passion I have not seen in a while. Thank you Lex and Katherine.

[@jimmybaker6639]

There's something about listening to people talk about things that they're passionate about. It's... Contagious... Almost magical. Thanks for posting this episode, Lex. Much love

[@VanessaMoonveil]

I love the final "advice for the youth" questions. Most guests have amazing things to share, and these pearls of wisdom are priceless.

[@dutchvonderlinde1693]

finally a science podcast again

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THIS!!!

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Yes please!

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I want a million dollars

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@@Eaon69 Then will you be happy??

[@hardcorehobbies3809]

Holy Crap Lex interviews are incredible! The best intellectual conversations on any media period. That also goes to all of your guests. Amazing and thank you both!!!!

[@tekmentor]

Lex, please bring her again in the Podcast such a great interview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@VanessaMoonveil]

She is so adorable and awesome and inspiring at the same time. I already found volcanoes amazing but i'm definitely spending the night researching Io and other moons

[@arnaud_voltaire]

All the space related episodes have been my favourites so far!

[@miaodu1695]

Finally a scientist! Please bring the scientists back on the show. PLEASE.

[@saucenflow]

ikr we need more Ryan Hall

[@itschadwarden]

@@saucenflow a wizard

[@oneone8318]

Yeah the ex North Korean Tinfoil hat conspiracy lady was a bit too much for me.

[@oneone8318]

@@Rickswars I don´t care, i just don´t want to see interviews with crazy people who babble nonsense conspiracies with 0 proof and make things up as they go and call everyone evil. At least these scientist speak about things they know about and don´t just make shit up while talking. Also i like their intellect and the wise answers and dialogues they can provide.

[@cridr]

he did not followed your comment :) he should ...

[@asphaltpilgrim]

Hahaha! I love how Katherine was prepared to go through some of Lex's little hypotheticals. :)

[@chriskennedy2846]

Is Pluto a planet or not? If no - is plutonium still an element? Is Plato still a philosopher? Will Play-doh still be considered a toy?

[@samig9032]

There’s a few pop-sci questions that these academics get asked so often, I bet she’s answered that Pluto question 1000 times.

[@EllipsesMusicc]

They aren't little

[@chriskennedy2846]

@@JohnSmith25115 Maybe you are on to something with the dog analogy? Maybe that's why the planet has been able to stay in orbit way out there for all this time. Invisible fence?

[@Dulkancellin]

@@chriskennedy2846 o la

[@dakotahanson6928]

Man keep this shit up! This is my go to podcast to really learn new things. Idk what it is but this is the place that keeps me engaged even though its just pure information. Never get bored on this podcast.

[@Chris.4345]

12:20 Her taking about watching the activities of other celestial bodies, the clouds and volcanoes on Titan and Io, was so incredibly poetic.

[@mstreech]

I love this episode. I can listen to her talk all day. She’s incredible.

[@SlickDiecast]

This podcast felt like it was only 10 minutes long! What a great conversation.

[@gkiourtis]

Lex, thank you so much for projecting so much love to the world! Keep up the amazing work brother, and keep me always thirsting for more knowledge!

[@angrynotwhiteman]

Hey Lex. Konstantin Batygin,a Russian-American astronomer whose research involves the search for Planet 9, would be a great guest. He is also from Caltech.

[@NomenNescio99]

KB is totally awesome, I've learned a ton from watching his online lectures. And yes - he would be a great guest on the podcast!

[@idlevandal69]

Great suggestion!

[@kinnaribhalerao8112]

Yes Konstantin is amazing!!

[@thirtytwo6289]

Space shit is cool

[@donpaco6536]

Oh erlauchter Deutscher Kaiser und König von Preußen, kehren Sie wieder. Deutschland braucht Sie!

[@CreamyBone]

Just want to give Lex props on how neat and elegant he runs the mic cables on the booms in every episode 😊👍

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You are an absolute weapon, very inspiring work ethic with great guests!

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Love your sessions, such a diversity of topics and thinkers. A university of curiosity in a podcast, gives me hope for our world. Are you going to have Michael on again when he moves down there ? Love the interplay between you two.

[@mattm6178]

we think very similar :d

[@melkenhoning158]

Late night upload for a late night of working. Perfect!

[@lexfridman]

Work harder! Good luck.

[@marlonscloud]

*smarter : )

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@@marlonscloud Depends what you're working with

[@santidoesdata5128]

Love to see a new episode while eating breakfast here in Spain. Appreciate all your work immensely, sending love from Spain, Lex!🤍

[@richevangelista3069]

Lex, thanks for crushing through the night to get this out. You inspire me and many others to give 200% every moment of the day, but you also inspire me to stop and look around. Especially UP! Great podcast.

[@daireb123]

The last 20 mins of this felt like watching a date, get her digits Lex!

[@mikegentile13]

that's what i was thinking. were they flirting?

[@columbasaint465]

@@mikegentile13 16:46 Hair touching. Lex has just responded to Kathrine's favourite topic. Key moment.

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@@canobenitez Lmao

[@timbebimbe]

Initially I was only listening to it via Spotify and I started to get the impression very soon by listening only. Had to recheck by watching it here on u tube. Chemistry! 😘

[@ArturoMurilloMx]

@@airballsonly agree

[@filipburcevski9566]

Amazing. I could listen her speak for hours. Hope there will be part 2

[@edibleapeman2]

Haven't tuned-in in a while. This is the sort of interview I could listen to for days. Thank you for having her on, and I hope you have a pleasant rest of your week!

[@Buddhafan]

you should definitely ask this one out to dinner if you get the opportunity

[@kess1440]

I demand a revaluation of my 1st grade science project...me leaving out pluto was foward thinking

[@bakerc1981]

The first Lex Fridman Podcast i've listen to in full. Thank you for having Ms. De Kleer on.

[@vladimir7838]

Prof. Katherine R. de Kleer is amazing (35 publications), amazing conversation! Loved this epp!

[@swongstandard8011]

Number publications is irrelevant.

[@user-pz1iq3fl2e]

one of the best episodes so far. Would love to see her back on the show again for round 2.

[@sortof3337]

1:41 proves lex is just a little kid pretending to be a robot. hehe Love you Lex you are awesome!! I haven't missed a single podcast and I think it has been a great learning experience for me. I haven't had a male role model in my life and your kindness and positivity makes me think of you as a wise big brother. Keep doing what you are doing. :D

[@Krim707]

“A brilliant child” - tim dillon

[@TheGstein]

Lex, you seem a little off with the questions lately, was cracking me up a lot this episode. Maybe I expect too much with you having to learn all these fields so intricately but in my head you are a genius! Thanks for the content.

[@CALIJOE13]

I was thinking the same. I had fast forward a few times because I knew the question was going no where

[@AreadLeano]

I love the topics you guys get into and somehow this episode is the cutest so far :)

[@KillerChagnon]

@@cryptofriend.6061 can’t believe he just gives his number to people

[@donbroni]

Love her ideas on on questions and techniques, it ties together the value of how we think and the importance of how we craft what we think

[@MrSmurfhawk]

Outline as percentages: 1 % - Introduction 4 % - Pluto 3 % - Kuiper belt 3 % - How to study planets and moons 11 % - Volcanoes on Io - moon of Jupiter 8 % - Is there life in the oceans of Europa? 9 % - How unlikely is life on Earth? 2 % - Life on Venus 6 % - Mars 9 % - What is interesting about Earth as a planet? 4 % - Weather patterns 8 % - Asteroids 7 % - Will an asteroid hit Earth soon? 13 % - Oumuamua 6 % - Book recommendations 5 % - Advice for young people (Rounding may create totals greater than 100%)

[@QualityQman]

5% pleasure

[@mattyjmar10]

18:56 Wow, fantastic understanding. From knowing nothing about this to listening to this concise explanation, I feel like I have a solid baseline understanding. This is why I love watching scientists on Lex!

[@mattyjmar10]

@@user-fq8tq7sn3q Thank you Mr. Friedman. I want to ask - what kind of oil are you fried in? Canola? Palm? Safflower?

[@wiseleyb]

She's fantastic - what an awesome interview... thanks Lex!

[@dukefl]

Best podcast around....I love how humble lex is while knowing he is a genius in his own right.

[@MrFelixify]

this is more and more becoming my favorite podcast. Keep it up Lex.

[@adityask277]

I never knew who Katherine was, but this was one of my favorite lex episodes

[@RG-bz3tl]

Normally I love your podcasts Lex, and obviously enjoyed this one. But for some reason, I found the questions very basic, rambly, and you almost seemed very distracted by something. Normally you ask guests fairly challenging questions, but your questions in this episode sounded like questions you'd ask a high school teacher, not a professor. Probably just me. Anyway, love what you do Lex, thank you so much.

[@6ixpool520]

Yeah, totally. I think Lex is actually out of his depth here. His understanding of the topic seems pretty superficial now that you mention it

[@tandlast]

@@sunflower-oo1ff I disagree she doesn't support Elon Musk's vision to colonize Mars. I think they fundamentally disagree on a lot and would not do well in a relationship.

[@tmjmccormack]

100% accurate comment was uneasy and not typically that way

[@dahleno2014]

@@tandlast Bruh disagreeing on Mars colonization (or something to that effect) isn’t something that makes a relationship difficult. I’m not saying they should be... but what you’re saying is not accurate.

[@tandlast]

@@dahleno2014 I obviously disagree with this rubbish of a comment

[@TalkThisOut]

Lexi setting up the dream team! And always keeping amazing guests! Let's GOO!!!

[@craigdowson9893]

Lex you are a wonderful human being my friend thank u for all the hard work u put into these podcasts. I know there's so much behind the scenes what goes into everything you do while balancing your personal life to. I have learned so much from you and your guest's. Please keep going keep doing what u doing your passion for life and subjects with in it is inspiring. I hope I can make half the impact u have on our fellow human beings 🙏. We here and we listening.... thank you!!!....

[@robroy0007]

Man I watch and listen to yours ,JRE,Hubberman religiously! Awesome to have such great conversations with brilliant people who are still curious and really committed to exploring life 🤟 rock on Russkie

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Thanks for the constant free mind-expanding content!

[@englishiguana4304]

Also, just want to say again… Lex, you are the freaking man! This is probably my favorite podcast of all time if I had to choose one.

[@nehasinha]

Thank you Lex! Love seeing female scientists on your podcast ❤️

[@ashish_sunny]

Well said.

[@colinb8332]

@@eDiZzON to you it may not. To young girls to stumble upon it, it may make a total difference

[@miguelbinha]

@@colinb8332 we are way beyond the point where that could be a catalyst or accelerator. Women are doing what they want, aspiring and arriving at where they desire. Even in Kaddafi's Lybia, women were doctors and, if I remember correctly fighter pilots. Saying that women still need to be encouraged or empowered to achieve their true potential is a political affaire.

[@nehasinha]

I made no universal claims about how other women feel, or about this shaping any social narratives and inspiring young women. I was simply showing my love for Lex and positive feelings for seeing female scientists on Lex’s podcast. I didn’t expect controversies around my simple, personal statement, but I hope you all are loved and have a beautiful day! ❤️

[@seanfrancishenry]

Entertaining and enlightening! I’m excited to learn more about the planets and their moons in our solar system.

[@bruces317]

IN the last couple of shows at least, Lex seems to me to be spending a lot of time on personal speculations rather than having an conversation with the guest about the guest's areas of interest and expertise..

[@jamieg2427]

agreed. i wish he would begin the question then instead of his speculation, he'd let the guest discuss their thoughts!

[@cam1696]

I was thinking the same thing. He also doesn't seem to follow where the conversation wants to naturally go, but instead keeps derailing. It was particularly noticeable in this episode.

[@danzephyr2797]

Another gem Lex. Katherines passion is infectious, I love her.

[@JRichardson711]

This lady is amazing, phenomenal, stellar and planetary

[@jamieg2427]

she's not galactic though. definitely not universal.

[@crocop6873]

Definitely hot 🥵 especially her talking about volcanism 😰

[@dmor6696]

i hope the future scientists will be more open to new ideas and test, always, the old as they do with the new ones this was the best Podcast so far thanks both of you

[@stvbrsn]

I don’t know which one is more adorable. A lot of comments here about these two getting together, but in all seriousness... yes.

[@mikecare3116]

I ship it

[@Ahmed-px2rd]

I think Lex's "hypothetical" analyses are actually very practical. I think it's on a scale that humans as a species haven't yet learned to prioritize, but the trajectory makes perfect sense and the fact that we will never be able to perceive our pace truly and predict the timing of arrival of these "hypothetical" problems and logistics gives so much justice to this type of thinking. Practicality is a limitation we give ourselves perpetually. Much respect to Lex for voicing out his opinion the way he does, to speak out for those of us who feel the same way. Amazing guest on this one. Keep it up Lex. Love and peace from earth

[@Ahmed-px2rd]

The concept of ideas as evolutionary conscientious entities is especially interesting, and I think very very very relevant AND plausible

[@movingshadow702808]

I think lex likes her as more than a guest 😝

[@nathanliszewski1824]

Could listen to this woman talk about space all day! Very good speaker.

[@blankspace0000]

Thank you for these podcasts Lex. Been helping me stay sane during the insane heatwave up here in the pnw

[@bullitt68390]

42 minutes in Lex talking about trees blew my mind . Love this podcast.

[@VGV0]

I think it's time someone interview Lex. It's great hearing about his guests but I'd like to hear what he's thinking , in detail on certain things.

[@Dominic416_]

He been on joe Rohan like 5 times

[@k.c4411]

Lex is so funny!!! I chuckled at certain moments!! He’s so amazing that he always tries to make a people smile even during serious topics! Love watching/listening to his podcasts!!

[@sagatparkes]

I already listened to this on apple podcasts, but rewatching becuase I wanted to see her face during her silent responses.

[@drutalero2962]

Lex, PLEAAASEEEEE interview Dr. Becky. She's an astronomer who focuses on supermassive black holes and educates astronomy on KZbin. She would be AMAZING on here.

[@rochellecurtis4850]

When are the podcasts with the Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky translators happening?

[@peterplotts3]

I would very much like to see that.

[@jwd888]

Congrats on the MILLION Lex, just a humble stoner who enjoys the conversations you have, keep them coming.

[@austincagan3258]

Just pulled an all nighter putting out new Music now I’m learning about the solar system 😂 nice vid 👍🏻

[@susanmurphy246]

Glad to see your interviews recently include so many outstanding women!!

[@laertesdd]

I agree. Also, you're sexist.

[@c.twitch8351]

This is one of my favourite episodes.

[@johnkammerer2198]

Lex, thank u so much 4 all u do - u r totally gonna get 2 a conversation with Vlady :) rock on brother! ~j in Utah, USA

[@JackMott]

Joe Rogan: Tell me that DMT is a good idea, tell me it is important. Lex: Tell me that there are aliens. Tell me, lie to me, cmon!!!!

[@Milo19970]

Aliens are real but probably way too far away for us to ever come in contact with them.

[@seanfitzgerald4207]

Thanks Lex! what a nice surprise to start the work week with an early am Lex Fridman podcast. You rock my brother

[@TheGeorgee]

Lex uploading this at 4:43AM. Meanwhile, here I am, waking up at noon.

[@nickm7529]

Noon for the next day though, right? So you're actually getting up really really early.

[@TheGeorgee]

@@nickm7529 Noon for the May 17th. But you are right tho, it's 5 o'clock somewhere :D

[@steratorefriends6596]

Are you taking sitar lessons?

[@THIS---GUY]

Lex is an insomniac so I'm sure he wakes up late se days too after going to bed when the sun rises

[@DoubleGee_1]

So fascinating! I love Katherine's enthusiasm and could listen to her talk all day.

[@andyatmosphere]

Awesome cast once again Lex!! Keep it going!!

[@Defiantclient]

So excited about the OUTLINE in your video description. Definitely tabbing this to listen to later!

[@pepperjack6749]

Man! Lex came into this one armed with a blunt!

[@halemarine5991]

First off I enjoy your podcasts. This one included to much perching your view points rather than challenging the guest. Thank you for this channel.

[@tribe5853]

One of Lex's best podcasts. Great interview!

[@englishiguana4304]

Such an interesting guest. Great vibes as always on this podcast. Thank you Lex and Katherine!

[@Rynhelms]

I learned some badass stuff from this one Lex thank you.

[@carlalakins]

As I sit here, a being from a far off galaxy.... 2 million years advanced...... I find myself smiling back at Alex .... his "theories" are so cute. I turn to my friend and say, "and just 500 yrs ago (a blink of the eye) ... it took them 2 months to cross the Atlantic Ocean. Awww, he's so cute..... "

[@LostNspace-jn1ds]

I can feel it coming in the air tonight, (Oh lord) And I've been waiting for this moment, for all my life, (Oh lord) 🥁 🪘 🥁 🪘......all I’m saying is I felt some hardcore nerd passion going on 💪

[@1003196110031961]

Another great podcast Lex. I found this young ladies love for the subject absolutely addictive. Thank you so much 😀

[@maillardsbearcat]

"Does it look beautiful or is it boring?" Excellent interviewing skills there mate

[@phillipgoat00]

Woman knows her stuff. One of the better podcasts you can find about space. lex nailed it here.

[@steveoca]

Did Lex just slide in some poetry? Of course, he did. Well Done. you sly devil....

[@mikegentile13]

just like his dad the poet

[@notation254]

Would love to hear more podcasting from her and people like her.

[@mindevo3677]

I've got class in 4.5 hrs and was about to catch some sleep and then you drop this hotness at 3am. Dammit Lex!

[@sortof3337]

sleep and watch tomorrow. Sleep is important homey.

[@ArchdukeAnderson]

dude go to bed lol

[@Norantio]

Thank you Katherine and Lex, this was fantastic!

[@martinmuldoon8166]

Awesome interview Lex. Thanks very much!

[@MikePuorro]

I need more Katherine de Kleer.

[@badalgugnani9876]

This..episode..is...really..great..☀️🌟

[@mike-ig1wy]

As a man of science I would have to say they definitely banged after this episode. Look at her eyes. What a beauty

[@columbasaint465]

16:46 Hair touching. Lex has just responded to Kathrine's favourite topic. Key moment.

[@aldalessandro5227]

Good and interesting conversation to listen to. Well done Lex. Love Love Love

[@Evanderj]

I love how this feels like a first date where Lex’s nerves make him seem more like a little kid than normal.

[@cacovelho]

Exactly hahaha, i was wondering if i was the only one who sensed a little spark there.

[@HalfinchLonomia]

Beautiful ending. Indeed the truest pleasure in life is to enjoy the journey and not the destination. For the destination is the same for all of us; death. Perhaps a macabre way of looking at things, but also a reminder to do something everyday that you love and to love the seemingly insignificant tasks we all partake everyday.