Kava for Sleep and Anxiety | Dr. Weil on The Tim Ferriss Show podcast

[@ChitwoodMitwood]

I am 72 , started drinking Kava nightly about 6years ago , great move on my part , My wife will tell me to have one anytime she sees my stress level go up . Went through drugs , alcohol and addictions early in life , never going back.

[@TheSubpremeState]

Does it compare with alchohol?

[@ChitwoodMitwood]

@@TheSubpremeState yes, drink as much as you like , no hangover

[@drinkroot]

@@ChitwoodMitwood Are you currently on any medications? We import some of the higher end organic kavas, but usually screen customers if we know their age as there are certain medications we don't recommend to use together with.

[@andrewsnow1933]

Is it kava tea? How do you prepare kava as a beverage?

[@ChitwoodMitwood]

Kalm with Kava online sells and has info you need. I use the Fiji LoaWaka type. @@andrewsnow1933

[@Casper-fl1wy]

Kava is incredible and a wonderful alternative to alcohol.

[@Schmidteren]

I bought instant kava. They suggest you take 5-7 gram with each cup. I only use around 2.5g. And I even drink it slowly, it can work for a whole day if I continues to take sips. It's the best treatments for anxiety I've ever tried!

[@ingrid_inthesky]

Instant kava is pretty trash compared to the real thing👌🏽

[@AvengersPaintball11]

Instant is way better then traditional and u don’t have to drink a gallon of water so ur not all bloated. Never buy micronized but true dehydrated instant is the best way to take kava fs

[@oldmanhendo7183]

@@AvengersPaintball11 what brand of instant kava do you use? Can you give me a link to it? I really want to try this for anxiety

[@ryspace]

Fiji Vanua Kava has good true instants

[@getwell587]

​@@oldmanhendo7183same, also I have awful anxiety and need to try something natural for it

[@julianwan1140]

I feel like, especially these days, everybody is struggling with mental health and could benefit from careful/ intentional therapeutic use of substances like these.

[@jackanderson7075]

Psychedelic's definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, they really helped me

[@timothybarlin8496]

This whole thing is pretty new to me, can I contact nhr_syndicatee for guidance? If yes where please

[@YuvrajSingh-oh7fl]

nhr_syndicatee remains my go to any psychedelic products

[@jasonwitt3423]

@@jackanderson7075big facts. The best improvement in my mental health came from shrooms. It was terrifying but incredibly rewarding.

[@fantomman3881]

What this man forgot to say kava is huge part of South Pacific cultures this drink was drank by the fiercest warriors , brokered peace , formed countries by this drink / plant 🌱 kava. It’s very important in the culture Funerals, weddings, birthdays, welcoming royal ceremonies.

[@zakprice2128]

That’s interesting, thank you for sharing this. I love kava.

[@cosmickangaroo4719]

Big kava fan. Whenever I’m stressed have a cup and feel much better. Similarish to alcohol but doesn’t affect how clear you can think, just reduces anxiety. Drink up

[@tari8134]

Where do you get yours from?

[@cosmickangaroo4719]

@@tari8134 lots of good online vendors in australia. just got made 'legal' here

[@paulch5394]

I've been taking kava for two weeks and I experience dizziness and I feel very angry like I wanna "kill someone". I'm sick of taking kava and not to feel any effects

[@cosmickangaroo4719]

@@paulch5394 sorry to hear mate, it isn't super strong stuff so if it isn't working for you might need to have meds for a little bit and try this again later.

[@chicofromph33nix64]

@@paulch5394 take kratom

[@1LaOriental]

The relaxation and calm I get from Kava is way better than alcohol. Only issue is the pleasure one derives from slowly sipping wine is absent.😢 Also does not last long… But I love it!

[@drinkroot]

I mostly agree as I deeply miss bordeux's, However, some of the rarer varietals are actually pleasant to drink and remind me of celery juice or roasted peanuts. Also the effects from varietal to varietal can be vastly different so it's a whole world to explore there. For instance, one of our Kelai batches we just finished is almost absent of body heft and is SUPER heady. I can't think of a better way to explain it than it's like putting on a fish eye lens.

[@marienson105]

Heat the wine add some spices thank me later

[@debbietaylor20]

Do the capsules work the same

[@drinkroot]

@@debbietaylor20 kava capsules are generally pretty weak and not processed in ways approved methods by the World Health Organization. It's a little loophole some companies slip through to profit off people who don't know better. We recommend to use it traditionally by batching with water and a filter bag, or using our dehydrated kava juice, which is pre-batched traditional kava then dehydrated.

[@kavakavacandy]

Awesome to see some heavy weights talk about kava! Been in the kava industry for about 15 years and my personal issue when I first tried it was the taste. Being in Hawaii, I had tried kava before (as a novelty at a party or something) but not for a lengthly time where I would drink it every day or night for stress or anxiety. Fast forward, I created a Kava Kava Candy which turned out to be a good gateway into the kava world and particularly for a daytime use or to help kick in those kavalactones. There is some "reverse tolerance" to the process as kava is truly a different feeling than anything else you might be use to trying. Cheers kava people!

[@ahmedxh]

Do you recommend kava capsules?

[@kavakavacandy]

@@ahmedxh Yes, some kava capsules are great. Make sure they are from noble kava which are the cultivars / varietals that are traditionally consumed. Have you taken kava before? Many times there is a noticeable "reverse tolerance" with kava.

[@Chrono-Synclastic-Infundibulum]

@@ahmedxh this guy is awesome the kava kava candy he makes is legit. I use it to switch from work to relax.

[@muslimahsharing4761]

@@kavakavacandy so what is the reverse tolerance. I just give my 17 y.o son kava capsules. I can see how he seemed to be more relax and calm. But then he take low dose methylpjenidate, and seemed to be more irritated like before. But he said the pills somewhat help him to focus a little bit better at school. My question is, can we give him kava capsule before sleep, and also give him the pill to help him in school??

[@kavakavacandy]

@@muslimahsharing4761 Typically there might be issues with SSRI and benzos with kava but I would ask your physician about methylpjenidate. Since methylphenidate metabolized in the liver there maybe some issues and details to discuss in regards to your sons plan. Sorry I can't be more specific

[@Atomikbomb444]

I'm all for kava and love it, but I wish people weren't so ignorant about kratom too. I'm not trying to be rude, but it just isn't the harmful "drug" people make it out to be, if used responsibly and in moderation (you know, like anything else we do with self-control) it's really lovely. I've used it intermittently (not every day) for 8 years and my dose is the same, and I'm not addicted to it. Additionally, I was never on opiates either, I take kratom purely for its anti-inflammatory effects (great for autoimmune issues) and for my mental health. The amount of criticism and scorn I get about it though is unreal.

[@queenbee7074]

Where do you even get it from!!?? Its a genuine question

[@Atomikbomb444]

@queenbee7074 I've tried Kraken Kr@tom (one of the more established brands) and Golden Monk, both have been amazing! I've also purchased from a private vendor who is no longer selling, but you really need to be careful with those people because there's no testing of products involved. I also have gotten some from a good brand, but it was over 8 years ago and I can't remember the name, I'll ask my husband and possibly get back to you on that. Just don't buy stuff from a smoke shop because it's usually garbage. I'm afraid stuff might be laced. Unfortunately, most of the good kr@tom needs to be bought online

[@GirlCOsk8er]

its great if you can take it sparingly but it is hard to do so. once every few days, but if you take it daily you will suffer withdrawals . It helped me get off alcohol but every few weeks i buy a bottle and after a three or four day binge have to deal with awful withdrawals, its like a mild flu for a day. a few years back i took it for a year daily and when i stopped i thought i was going to lose it and end up in a ward, a week of no sleep and sweats, i would imagine its a quarter of what a heroin withdrawal feels like. and it also gets rid of grey matter in the brain permanently . be wary

[@jaymay7957]

Kratom is terrible. I’m sure if you did it once a week it’s probably fine. But if you’re taking it everyday or every other day for 8 years I challenge you to not take any for 2 weeks and let me know if you feel the withdrawal from it.

[@Atomikbomb444]

@@queenbee7074 Golden Monk

[@napndash]

I take liquid kava before bedtime for my tinnitus. Does wonders and no memory issues or grogginess like with melatonin.

[@kavakavacandy]

thats awesome...may I ask what liquid and how long did it take for tinnitus. My auntie has tinnitus that she has been dealing with so this could be a great option for her

[@ryspace]

All the negative effects reported from kava were from non-aqueous extracts. Traditionally brewed kava is the safest and most effective form.

[@kavakavacandy]

@@ryspace unfortunately there were some aqueous cases in New Caledonia using bad cultivars but out of all the cases it is very limited. I talked to Dr Lebot ("father of modern kava science") and it seems that the starting material (aka good noble varietals) need to be used and perhaps has the most impact. Your right, use traditionally used kava. Extracts like Acetone does have some inherent problems but other extracts like co2 and ethanol do not from the research.

[@midgetmafia9451]

Does it remove the buzzing of tinnitus? A classmate got in a car accident years ago and has a horrible ringing, wondering if this might be beneficial for him

[@napndash]

@@midgetmafia9451 Then he suffers from insomnia which makes the ringing worse and brings memory problems without regular sleep. Kava extract has been outstanding

[@kingmaafu1552]

If you struggle to sleep then KAVA is the ANSWER to that. You drink Alcohol and you can't keep still but when you drink Kava you just want to relax

[@zakprice2128]

Just got some loa waka. Loving it so far. Keeping me away from alcohol and clears my head/energy/grounds me forsure. Absolutely love it.

[@daveclark1904]

I tried kava and kratom for the first time yesterday. Absolutely loved the way it made me feel and absolutely no desire to drink, and I'm an alcoholic.. I think these medicines may just save my life! Thank you Lord!

[@daveclark1904]

@@blackbriarwolf5766 try being an alcoholic for 20+ years before saying some stupid shit like that.. wow.. you obviously don't know the struggles some of us have and are currently going thru.

[@brandontinko1460]

@@blackbriarwolf5766ahh the guy who puked off his first beer makes his appearance 😂 world doesn’t revolve around your ideology 😭

[@drinkroot]

@@brandontinko1460 LOLL. I drink kava all the time since we manufacture it, but I do DEARLY miss a clean triple ipa. Or even a foggy unfiltered New England style one. Doesn't help that Monkish is a mile from my home. I swear I only broke through dependency by also getting an industrial co2 tank modded to my soda stream and inhaling sparkling water every night. Also those Hoplark Hoptea's are the closest I've found to a replacement. It's so expensive tho so it's just a bi-weekly treat.

[@JeffReams]

I have some of the most vivid dreams after drinking kava.

[@tinatrachtenburg8489]

OMG me too!! I remember my dreams when drinking Kava.

[@matthewjohnson4328]

I had a dream I was in overwatch 2 and I was running around the map butt naked distracting the enemy team

[@ejdel1289]

@@matthewjohnson4328😂

[@matthewjohnson4328]

@@ejdel1289 lmao i forgot about that dream bro they have been so outta pocket i can write a damn book about them . quitting weed n using kava x1000 my dreams

[@chrisd5133]

For those in the central New Jersey/ Bucks County Pennsylvania area, MagiKava is a great little kava and tea bar in New Hope, Pennsylvania. I had kava for the first time there about two months ago and visit regularly now. Amazing results for anxiety and helping me sleep. They also do kratom and kava/kratom mixes but I am not a fan of that.

[@kavakavacandy]

Thats awesome! Do you happen to know the owner over there? I would be curious if they would be interested in carrying Kava Candy? A nice gateway into the kava world for new customers

[@artofkava]

Bantha tea bar in the burgh too (#pittsburgh)

[@RoryHolland111]

Hell ya I live 30 min from here, I’ll try it out 🤌🏻

[@sighfly2928]

It’s crazy that this has been banned in the UK since 2003. Just because there were 3-4 fatalities linked to it in the early 2000s. Yet Alcohol is legal and contributes to hundreds of thousands of deaths each year, not even factoring in the reduced healthy life expectancy

[@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661]

Alcohol makes governments a lot of money.

[@mickymiller6130]

The ruling class wants to keep you stupid and befuddled.

[@willowwhyte1104]

Governments don’t give a 💩 about our health! Only about controlling us and taking our money (taxes)🙄🤮

[@enigmawealth752]

Dr. Weil is such an interesting person

[@HCheatNcool]

Kratom dependence can be severe and I advise anyone considering using it to reconsider unless they absolutely need it. You will need to have a plan to taper down back off it if you take it for an extended period

[@debbietaylor20]

Never had withdrawal from kratom , only restless legs for a night or two, nothing compared to the withdrawal and side effects from zoloft .

[@Cheddar_96]

No one goes to rehab for kratom, I’ve been taking it for 6 years responsibly and it has significantly made me better overall. It’s literally a walk in the park compared to any kind of hard drug or real opiate, not even comparable really. It keeps me and many other people away from hard drugs and lets us lead a normal life. I’ve talked to thousands of people that take it for many different reasons, I run a kratom Reddit page with 7 thousand members, I’ve seen people from all walks of life get help from it. And it’s all about being responsible with it whether you are addicted to it or not.

[@Libertybible100]

Use gaba 750mg and valerian root 2000 and ashwaganda and l theanine 200mgs and kava kava 250mg to 500 mg and also wild lettuce extract 1000mgs great mixture here try it out has helped me a lot

[@johnbush9790]

I just tried gaba 750 for the first time and hour ago and am currently also using ashwaganda 😂 I'll try ur mixture

[@Soul_Alpha]

How does that make you feel? I need anxiety and stress relief tryna get a Xanax script but it's hard these days

[@socialistcinema]

Drinking kava is quite common in PAK and comes from north western side of the country. It is a great calmer, reduces anxiety, and helps you sleep.

[@-whackd]

Pakistan? You guys can grow kava root?

[@firstnamelastname9179]

Well I just googled 'kava Pakistan', and they have 'kahwah', which is something completely different. Sort of a mulled green tea... Is that what you mean?

[@idiotic1021]

He is talking about a different Kava from Pakistan which is like a green tea.

[@RalloR]

Is your profile picture Edvard munch?

[@idontknowyetwhoiam]

​@firstnamelastname9179 yes that's what he's talking about. Drugs are not legal in Pakistan and no muslim is taking such substances willy nilly lol. I'm exmuslim i know how anal muslims are.

[@CozyButcher]

cozy drink kava daily after 15 years alcoholic sleep better, wake up better, no more hangover tastes like dirt but you get used to it, better than vodka almost 500 days with no alcohol...kava super halpful

[@czanderrr]

I'm confused. Dr Weil said there's no toxicity and no interaction with alcohol, and a quick google and theres all kinds of articles and literature saying the opposite, in regard to liver toxicity and advising not to use it if you drink alcohol 🧐

[@Morgan-Zolko]

This is correct. He made an error

[@SizzleSack55]

Could be fake news sponsored by Big Pharma. Look at the side effects of their drugs, funny a Google search or some of those medications isn't spammed with a bunch of negative articles.

[@annabanana3104]

❤ So my husband and I have been drinking 3 tea spoons of Kratom with our orange juice/water on a daily basis. I personally have never gotten addicted to Kratom. I was able to stop for months and forget about it completely without side affects like others say they had. Anyway, I started taking Kratom with orange juice again, (mixed in a little bottle) and use it for energy and minor pain. It helps me drastically and works almost immediately, also leaves me overall happy. 😊 I haven’t tried Kava but am very interested in the tincture ! 💕‼️💯

[@Gumby703]

What are the safe brands ?

[@adamarmstrong9408]

Kratom has been really good for my anxiety, taken kava I don't think I brewed it right, the problem is kava is really expensive where I live

[@mrs.Italy.D]

@buyfromjakeson_smithsonins23 That is exactly what I am trying to do but my problem is finding it. Especially in this day and age everything is laced nowadays

[@mctransportation9831]

I experience the rebound effect from alcohol much more than the average person. I tried kava and it was way worse than alcohol. I passed out, but withing an hour or so, I was awake with a racing mind and got no sleep the rest of the night. I threw away the rest of the bag. That was my experience.

[@johnstonjeremy86]

There is a ton of bad kava out there. I would say make sure to buy it online and spend a lot of time researching the sources with the best quality. Other than that, things don't work for everybody. Everybody has a very different complex biochemistry that is unique to them. Kava also has a constituent in it that is a norepinephrine inhibitor and this can actually cause anxiety in a smaller subset of people.

[@mctransportation9831]

@@johnstonjeremy86 i got it from kracken kratom. I think it's just me. I don't think there was anything wrong with the kava.

[@johnstonjeremy86]

@@mctransportation9831 yeah, I think you're right. I've gotten kratom from kraken before and it was quality. So I would assume their kava has to be decent.

[@SeattleLuna]

That might be a paradoxical reaction. I experience it with valerian, which makes it tough to find herbal sleep blends.

[@ingrid_inthesky]

Kraken is actually very good so I would think the kava would be fire as well. I've been ordering kratom from them since 2016. What a waste of product to just dump that out🤷🏽‍♀️ I would have sold that to a friend.

[@Yuppie.Mike.]

The majority of Kratom varieties are somewhat motivating and stimulating. All Varieties provide pain relief some better than others. The best for pain relief is red vein Bali it is not motivating, but most of Kratom is motivating or stimulating depending on the person I take White vein maeng da, yellow vein maeng da and green vein maeng da. Highly motivating and provide focus, they don't interfere with my sleep but I would not be taking it for sleep. If you take a large dose overdose it is sedating. A normal dose is 3-5 g. I am bipolar and have PTSD it eliminates my depression and helps me get through the day with my anxiety. It helps me stay on the manic side of my life. I'm watching this today so I can eliminate my PTSD nightmares. I'll be starting kava in 14 see if it helps me with my panic attacks

[@josephstewart9196]

Literally same boat. How the kava work for you? My order came today so I’ll be trying it tonight

[@Soul_Alpha]

​@@josephstewart9196how'd it go? I just ordered some so won't be here till Monday and so curious to hear other people's stories, does it feel anything like Xanax?

[@polym1763]

Pure Kava sells the best Kava and it does help me with my insomnia. I would highly recommend the Premium Fijian or the Island Dope😴😴😴

[@cassondralynch6342]

It doesn't interact with alcohol?! That makes me happy to hear from him as he knows his stuff but I've heard the opposite everywhere else. Including legitimate and passionate kava company workers. They say as long as your liver is fine kava is fine on it's own and alcohol (in moderation) is fine on it's own but together something is activated or something that causes a potential issue in your liver. Can anyone answer to this? I feel like some people are overly cautious and I'd like to be able to drink kava all day and then have a couple of beers a night to eventually quit altogether.

[@artofkava]

Hey Cassondra! Thanks for contacting us regarding this part of the post. Like we talked about, alcohol does indeed interact with kava in a negative way. Simply, kava makes the bad parts of alcohol worse, short and long term. We always recommend to be safe to not have alcohol in the same day as kava.

[@cassondralynch6342]

@@artofkava Thank you so much for clarifying! I hope Tim will make a correction in the description or comment section. I appreciate the kava enthusiasm from Dr. Weil very much but it's important it's used safely. The liver is not to be messed with! Thanks again! :D

[@midgetmafia9451]

​@@artofkava how does it work physiologically? What are the codynamics between the two that affects live function?

[@cassondralynch6342]

@@midgetmafia9451 Most people say it potentiates the negative effects of alcohol on the liver. I'm starting to doubt it a little to be honest and wish I knew the truth.

[@whyillustrated5610]

They both raise liver enzymes, while less dangerous than alcohol both in tandem could be very dangerous, also definitely don't take it with any meds that affect the liver

[@stefanpavicevic5890]

Don’t tell them they will ban it kava kava is great natural Xanax And I usd to be prescribed Xanax for 15yeqrs

[@joshbeyer9757]

I bet you never heard of agmatine

[@joshbeyer9757]

I just got kava kava candy . 50 mg ! I like it. I’m not really like anything at all. It’s strange . I am trying to switch from Xanax to klonopin . I got down from 5 mg to 0.5 mg a day , I have to bug my doctors to switch me to klonopin . Until I am off all benzodiapine . It’s going to be a hell of a fight .

[@Soul_Alpha]

Do share more. Just ordered some from Katz botanicals and can't wait to try. Tryna get Xanax prescribed is hard nowadays so if it's truly the same feel I'm in for a treat. How should I prepare and take it?

[@Soul_Alpha]

​@@joshbeyer9757depending how many years you've been on it altogether it will definitely be a fight if you struggle with sticking to your taper but if you're determined and stick to your taper you can definitely be free of it altogether. It's just if you can get it easily I'd make sure to save some for emergencies bc trying to get a Xanax script these days is near impossible I'm still tryna get me a script

[@gregrichey840]

I am 58 and I too would regularly drink about 3 cocktails every night and it started to affect my sleep. I started to use kava to break my habit. But now I am seeing that my REM sleep has increased significantly and I am feeling quite a bit better through the day. I am waking up far more rested. I also monitor my blood pressure per a doctors recommendation. I was put on losartin and that lowered it but not quite enough. So they put me on amlodipine also. My pressure got better but was still a little on the high side. The past 2 weeks I have been using kava and my blood pressure last night was 118/77 and has been in that range every day for a week. I think better sleep is relieving stress and lowering my blood pressure.

[@kavakavacandy]

Great to hear..its is certainly a process and kava can do wonders for some people.

[@mickymiller6130]

Are you overweight?

[@nayl3476]

Thanks inviting this legend !

[@beachstreet101]

I’ve been taking Kratom for years and have never had any issues ever. But I also take a super small amount that’s less than 1/4 teaspoon spread throughout the day. I wouldn’t take it past 4 or 5 pm though as I find it motivating rather than sedating. The red strain is more for nighttime but I’ve never taken that at night either. Kava I’ve taken as well and that’s more calming. Lavender is excellent for sleep too.

[@debbietaylor20]

Been taking kratom.for years for anxiety sleep., love it.. Had terrible side effects and withdrawals on big pharma poison zoloft !!

[@alissahhodges5854]

I've been talking kratom for six years. Never had a problem and without it I wouldn't be able to work anymore. It's been a lifesaver for chronic pain and fatigue due to autoimmune.

[@FieldOfDaisies2468]

I’ve had a kava powdered water tonight for the first time. Don’t feel anything. Hasn’t helped my anxiety one bit. We’ll see how I sleep tonight. I feel it’s just me though, nothing seems to work, cbd oil doesn’t even work for me :(

[@ganjarulez009]

Kratom is definitely so easy to abuse and once you do it daily for some time, you will get severe withdrawals.

[@debbietaylor20]

Never had bad withdrawal from kratom , zoloft was hell on earth with side effects and withdrawals

[@cuddleslol]

Hi Tim, Dr Weil says sleep aids are not good - what about melatonin supplements? Thanks, love your work

[@wad4547]

I saw recently Huberman was saying melatonin is not great. Just google that for more reference

[@cuddleslol]

@@wad4547 hm article from his website last year doesn't say it's bad, just gives options incase it doesn't work. Can you highlight the name of the page or article you read?

[@midgetmafia9451]

Melatonin isn't a drug. It's something your body naturally produces. So it's not like taking melatonin every day is a magic fix. Melatonin is best used when: 1. You don't produce enough melatonin naturally (uncommon for most people, more common as you age I believe) 2. You have an inconsistent sleep schedule, in which case using melatonin at the same time every night and then actually going to bed at that time can help train your body more and make it easier to sleep. It's also useful for handling jet lag. Melatonin just tells your body it's time to sleep. Its not magic, but it helps. That's about it. Edit: in my subjective experience I get more tired in about 30 minutes

[@mickymiller6130]

Benefits of melatonin: • It’s a powerful antioxidant • It’s 2x more powerful than vitamin E • It triggers antioxidants like glutathione • It promotes sleep • It supports the immune system • It has anticancer benefits Sub-cellular melatonin is produced from NIR (near infrared). If you don't get enough NIR light, your pituitary does not produce enough for your needs. You need daylight even if cloudy. If you work indoors you can buy a therapeutic lamp to use at night before bed. I would do this, rather than supplements.

[@RyanSmith15549]

What's a good product for Kava?

[@l.u.5862]

I'm from Tonga and very familiar with Kava. Just don't overdue it haha the men drink for every occasion and also on the weekend.

[@cassondralynch6342]

Lol right on :) do you guys there generally agree not to mix kava and alcohol? I was surprised to hear him say it's ok.

[@FieldOfDaisies2468]

How much is over doing it?

[@drummer856]

I bought a bag of supreme and I’ve tried maybe 5 or 6 times but I get no effects so far, even tried taking double the recommended dosage. I don’t know if I bought a bad brand or if it’s me. I definitely get the mouth numbness though.

[@saddad6601]

The doctor say kava doesn’t negatively interact with alcohol but everything else I have read states you should never drink alcohol at least 12 hours before or after taking Kava. I understand that medical websites are going to lean way farther on the “ to be safe” side but for those who are comfortable taking kava daily, is there a major concern if I wanted to have a couple of beers the same night I’ve had two drops per the serving size (1.8 ml) of Kava kava extract?

[@cassondralynch6342]

I would really love to know this damn answer lol because same experience! Once in a while someone will be like they're fine together which is awesome while 95% of people say not to including kava experts. I don't know if there's been enough research to know for sure. Unless you have liver problems I'd guess it's fine here and there.

[@beachstreet101]

The thing with medical reports is there could’ve been one case where kava and alcohol didn’t go well for the person. It had detrimental effects. So the medical people have to list that as a warning. Even if there have never been any other cases since. I think it may just be that alcohol is broken down in the liver. And so is Kava. So they’re likely insinuating that the liver is having to work hard to metabolize both. Yet most things are broken down by the liver in general. I have had alcohol while on Kava and not had any issues. I’ve done that more than once and never had an issue. But I also don’t really drink that much to begin with and it’s just once in awhile rather than all the time.

[@whyillustrated5610]

The theory is that both affect the liver so I'd steer clear to be safe. Also definitely avoid any medications that affect the liver.

[@sarkis4271]

I've been using sleep aid gels because my prescribed medicine I use for sleep ran out and I've been using the gels for about 3 weeks waiting for doctors to call to make an appointment

[@dz2473]

Kratom is dangerous, it did make me feel happy and motivated for the first month then all of a sudden I lost the ability to fall asleep along with hyperpigmented patches on both cheeks.

[@ryspace]

The withdrawals are also brutal

[@LukeSly91]

You shouldn't make such a generalized statement like that. Kratom is not for you, sure. That doesn't make it dangerous. For most ppl if kratom is used responsibly they will have next to zero negative health repercussions. Especially if its sourced from a reputable vendor.

[@MarioGomez-nd2mx]

​@@ryspaceNothing compared to big pharma opiates.

[@MarioGomez-nd2mx]

​@@LukeSly91Absolutely.

[@beachstreet101]

@@LukeSly91Exactly. I’ve never ever had issues with Kratom.

[@theotherside93]

Today the pharmacy is out of my medication and I am drinking kava right now in hopes that it helps me. We shall see how this goes

[@MsGumly]

Are you still taking it?

[@theotherside93]

@@MsGumly no I wish

[@lucasartsjb23]

He said there's no toxicity and doesn't interact with alcohol. Why does the internet say to not mix the two?

[@whyillustrated5610]

Kava is known to process through the liver and raise certain enzymes. While not as dangerous as alcohol both in tandem could be very bad news Also definitely avoid it with any other medication that affects the liver to be safe

[@nl212ep]

Does kava cause liver damage?

[@jxshkxng]

Prob not coz no sugar

[@whyillustrated5610]

The above ground parts of the plant are toxic to the liver A high quality noble kava that is only the root matter is generally safe Even good quality root kava can raise some liver enzymes which isn't inherently dangerous but it would be smart to avoid alcohol or any medications that stress the liver while taking it

[@rugdoc97]

Kratom put me through hell took me 6 months of being a zombie to feel normal quitting

[@debbietaylor20]

You must have been taking insane amounts to get withdrawals

[@NanoLyfe]

Great video, but everyone needs to learn about and try Nano Kava! 1ml has as many kavalactones as a 6oz shell! Mixes much better into everything also. Great for mocktails!

[@emmaphilo4049]

Oh yeah I had a friend from Kenya who used to chew this. Well, not too sure still, he seemed quite high when doing it, and I don't like being high

[@-whackd]

Not kava

[@emmaphilo4049]

@@-whackd you're right I think it's khat leaves

[@chicofromph33nix64]

@@emmaphilo4049 khat sounds more like it..

[@NPD2024]

No toxicity? There is info out there regarding it being hepatoxic.

[@wajlamo]

I've used Kratom heavily for over half a year at times and never experience physical withdrawal symptoms. I've had friends who were addicted to opiates already and used Kratom to try and get off pain pills and they said Kratom was highly addictive. This leads me to believe it is somehow because of there existing opiate addiction. To me Kratom is just like Marijuana. No physical withdrawals at all.

[@Alexyourm]

Get your blood work done, find out what you are deficient in. Do cardio 3 times week. Still have anxiety, take kava. Still have anxiety, see a therapist.

[@lunar7438]

Shroom microdose works too

[@rgranger2002]

Tried kava kava 200 mg last night for the first time and it felt like I barely slept at all. Plenty of yawning and went to bed a little earlier, but then just couldn’t get to sleep. I sleep fine normally and just tried it because I was curious/ because of this clip. Won’t be doing so again.

[@ingrid_inthesky]

If you took it then got into bed, no wonder it didn't work.

[@rgranger2002]

@@ingrid_inthesky I took it around 730pm, got into bed around 9pm, was still tossing and turning at midnight.

[@wainivanua]

Kava is a beverage. You likely had some pharma or nutraceutical product... maybe a kava extract in a pill. I recommend buying some kava powder and making yourself some kava.

[@cassondralynch6342]

@@rgranger2002 As Yaqona said you should consider buying the root kava and making tea. Stone Kava I believe is the name of the brand I've found most effective. Also, keep in mind it has a reverse tolerance effect which is amazing. But some people don't feel it much at first. It can take a bit.

[@lanceconnor5762]

I used kava to get off Kratom

[@Dasylpmis]

Should I chew Kava herbs before sleep? After brushing my teef

[@whyillustrated5610]

Don't chew it the larger plant matter is toxic, you need to strain it.

[@Eaglemadhatter]

Anything attaching to opiod receptors for a long period can cause withdrawal

[@royalbroman9467]

Can anyone tell me their recommendations and understanding of mixing kanna and kava. Both I believe have rejuvenation properties. Specifically would be using KA!'s tincture and Goldbee kava tincture

[@protochris]

How can it be safe? Virtually every medical article says it causes kidney toxicity and failure.

[@peachydandy2570]

I'm beginning to wonder if it's a bunch of LIES about it being "toxic." Like, possibly due to overpopulation they come up with that crap. WHO doesn't want us to get BETTER so they tell us lies about what's good for us. Not saying I'm right, just wondering 🤔

[@fantomman3881]

Idiot the people in South Pacific had been drinking it for thousands of years 😂 stupid ass people the science Stfu if you don’t know culture.

[@artofkava]

Noble kava that has been fully tested for mold , bacteria etc and has passed has been proven to not be bad for your liver. There was an fda warning in the early 2000s based on studies done with moldy kava etc. There were subsequent studies that debunked the earlier ones. Then a WHO report was done in 2016 to go over all if that. The worldwide ban on kava was then largely lifted based on that and new standards in the south pacific for quality. Look at medical articles 2014 and later. The ones you're finding are referencing erroneous material.

[@All_who_wander]

that is old research that as stated above didn't have control for other meds and most importantly how was processed and the parts of the plants that were consumed. Most if not all of the negative press came from flawed studies in Europe in the 90s that were controlling for bad product. The roots and basal stems are not toxic and in fact have healing properties. Check out the work by Dr Vincent Lebot for more info.

[@mikeycanterbury1421]

Come to Aotearoa bro all the brothers hit the kava after the Rugby

[@KombuchaMushroom8]

I have been trying to find kava and it is impossible. Nearly everything that is good for physical or mental health is banned 🙄

[@arcrane11]

Where do you live? If us Kalm with kava is excellent quality

[@ChristineBeltran]

Ca cbd stores will often ship

[@polym1763]

You should look up Pure Kava. They offer you many types of kava from different south Pacific Islands. They also ship to most countries.

[@cassondralynch6342]

Try bula kava house! There's lots of good stuff out there particularly for mental health and physical relaxation as opposed to pain relief from my knowledge.

[@dmarie388]

Oh yes! My Samoan ancestors drank the heck out of kava

[@Raylynpemberton]

Can kids take it with anxiety

[@Xlorntabis]

Kratom can definitely cause dependency and physical withdrawals.

[@Austin-nx9vd]

Really interested in trying kava and need recommendations for best brands since there are so many out there and I have no clue which are quality and which are crap. Any guidance from anyone would be really appreciated.

[@cassondralynch6342]

I was recommended bula kava house when I first started my journey but experimented many other places. I ended up there and for me it's been the best. I found the one.

[@dustygatrell-ru7tg]

Will kava help my benzo withdrawals? I don't plan on taking it all the time. Just when I go to classes. Kindly respond strange ones.

[@koyaaanisquatsi]

doesn't hurt to try! although it makes you sleepy so might not be conductive to study

[@boundless-trails]

I’m surprised they didn’t talk about the dosages and potential liver damage after prolonged use. I mean it’s not candy that you can eat all day long...

[@peachydandy2570]

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm like, really?

[@wainivanua]

Kava doesn't cause liver damage. And yes, it's definitely not candy, but a beverage.

[@peachydandy2570]

@@wainivanua It doesn't; but guessing the World Health Organization doesn't want some of us to get better. They want to depopulate us, so now they have us thinking kava is "bad." It was taken off the market in some areas.

[@wainivanua]

@@peachydandy2570 The WHO (in conjunction with FAO) released a report on kava in 2016 basically saying that kava was safe. Right now it's the US FDA that is refusing to acknowledge that kava is a safe food.

[@peachydandy2570]

@@wainivanua In the past it was the WHO I know. But if it's currently the FDA it doesn't surprise me.

[@TheButcherHicks]

If you develop a dependency on Kratom that requires rehab, the withdrawal pain (mild discomfort at worst) then your problem isn't pain or physical withdrawal, your problem is purely psychological. Kratom is easy to withdrawal from (if you even get to that point). If you are physically active, you won't really notice. If you are not, its like having a mild flu for a couple days (4 days at most). Hate it when people try and spook others away from Kratom because it is B.S. and it has help thousands of people come off of actual heavy narcotic dependency. This nonsense is just like the did with Cannabis in the 50's - 00's and mushrooms and LSD. All kinds of horrors stories and urban legends that never happened or happen to anybody.

[@Coco-oy5sm]

I started taking Kava when I transferred colleges and no longer had consistent access to alcohol (allegedly). So no therapeutic opinion here. My experience was that (powdered) Kava was the most disgusting thing I've ever put in my mouth. Absolutely foul. Probably gelcaps would've helped. Aside from that, it was basically the same as alcohol for me. The good parts and the bad. When I turned 21 I decided that rum was way more convenient and palatable. Now in my old age I'm of the opinion that alcohol is for getting drunk, kava is for getting drunk on a diet, and kratom is for all the things people say kava is for except getting drunk.

[@greybeardgamer2067]

I love kava. Well...not the taste... but it got me off Xanax. I'm lucky to have a local provider who I've seen pound the roots into dust right in front of my eyes.

[@abundancewithajah4768]

What If your on an antidepressant

[@Charlie-rp1mk]

Yep! You can safely enjoy the wonderful kava

[@rnxpx]

Anyone have thoughts on kava for RLS?

[@cassondralynch6342]

It can't hurt! What can help is earthing. Walking barefoot on the ground. May sound crazy but it helps. They have mats you can buy to stand on and sleep on. There should be vids on that here. I hope it's not :( I know it can be awful. Yoga nidra can help relax you to sleep sometimes.

[@QPT808]

Is kava bad for the liver or kidney?

[@arcrane11]

If you consume parts of the Noble Kava (not Todei Kava) other than the root or it is. Quality extracts from Noble Kava roots haven’t been proven to cause liver damage.

[@DJMPTV]

I’ve heard it could be if you have high blood pressure. But Im not positive.

[@-whackd]

Consuming the whole plant could be bad for your liver, but not the root alone. A proper extract will only contain roots.

[@artofkava]

Noble kava that has been fully tested for mold , bacteria etc and has passed has been proven to not be bad for your liver. There was an fda warning in the early 2000s based on studies done with moldy kava etc. There were subsequent studies that debunked the earlier ones. Then a WHO report was done in 2016 to go over all if that. The worldwide ban on kava was then largely lifted based on that and new standards in the south pacific for quality.

[@jeffreymonahan6826]

I’ve been slamming kratom for years just got a bad abscess on my arm

[@hiding007]

I never get anything out of kava. It's depressing

[@cassondralynch6342]

You're not getting a good kind, preparing it right or you may take a while to feel it because it has reverse tolerance. Some people have to drink it often for a few weeks or more to start to feel effects. If you have a kava bar around by chance I'd give that a go as well as they have good quality. I'm just getting started but Stone Kava thus far has been my favorite. I hope it works out for you!!

[@cassondralynch6342]

I said all that without mentioning it should be the tea you brew yourself lol.

[@LukeSly91]

Same here man. Tried 3 different types, used over 2 lbs total and barely feel a thing. Sometimes it actually made me feel worse

[@gareth5804]

Google "kava reverse tolerance"

[@BasicUniversalEconomics]

Kratom can mix with Kava, but do not take kratom before bed

[@travisphelps3602]

I would treat kratom like any other opiates and it is very useful when not abused to get high but expect withdrawals just like opioids 💯

[@matthewjohnson4328]

I abused fent and lemme tell you getting off kratom extracts gave me withdrawls very similar just for wayyy shorter

[@krefcenz]

What about kava’s alleged hepatoxicity? Valid or no?

[@kavakavacandy]

Alleged. There were only a few cases attributed to direct kava use but once the PR scare happened they started banning it in early 2000's. Its starting to come back but has taken 20 years!

[@weaponizedturtle1270]

The WHO reviewed Kava again in 2016 and essentially dismissed the hepatoxicity concerns due to a number of factors (e.g. the likely cause of the hepatoxicity in studies in the late 90’s and early 2000’s was due to other medications or alcohol especially with kava that triggered it). Or put differently, and in the WHO’s words, considering Kava has been used for over 2000 years, if there are any significant issues the occurrence of such is low. And they largely found as such in their meta analysis of studies up to 2016.

[@AthleticEducation]

For Kratom it’s not good for sleep. It’s terrible. It’ll knock you out, but you wake feeling like you got no sleep

[@DJSTOEK]

🖤

[@carolejean63]

That’s like tea? The Poly community knows about this

[@artofkava]

Hey! Kava is sort of like an herbal tea but it's not extracted like tea. For example, you can put it in a blender for a few minutes to extract the kavalactones, then strain the plant material. Then drink. It'll be warm when it comes out but not hot. You can also knead it in a bowl for about 15 minutes with warm water to do the same thing. Kavalactones aren't water soluable so they need to be coaxed out

[@emilylarge71]

I can say 100% I’m dependent on Kratom now.

[@justinmasters220]

Forget Kratom

[@ec2499]

After the 5th time trying kava and always getting headaches or sick to my stomach ive decided this stuff isnt for me. No thanks. Ill stick with m.j.

[@TheSubpremeState]

Anyone who wants to outright ban kratom is as evil as the gangleader who forces people to buy heroin

[@RSEFX]

Highly recommend kratom for help with energy and focus. Easy to get off of for most average (ie non-addictive personality types) people who may have issues with fatigue and/or mental focus. (the doctor has a weird pronunciation of it, pretty funny)

[@jaymay7957]

Stay far away from kratom

[@mikeycanterbury1421]

Haha Pākehā talking bout kava

[@learntonganwithandrew]

So I guess that Maoris can't talk about alcohol then, eh bru?

[@Toad434]

Shit, an expert that I know more then he knows. gtfo. Try the stuff before you think you can go on a podcast and talk about it.

[@jasonwitt3423]

He mentioned kratom. I love kratom. It saved my life!