Crimson Peak's Costumes, and How Tuberculosis Shaped Victorian Fashion

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Kaz Rowe

Kaz Rowe

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@afish4086
@afish4086 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact to add to your point; lead poisoning was also incredibly common during the Victorian era, and also has similar "sexy" symptoms (paleness, weight loss, fatigue, fading slowly until death finally grips your frail body like a wilting rose, etc). There were just... So, so many sexy ways to die in the Victorian era. Too many.
@benjalucian1515
@benjalucian1515 3 жыл бұрын
Toxic dress dyes.
@MikaelaCher
@MikaelaCher 3 жыл бұрын
Me, dying in my bed of tuberculosis and many different types of poison: ok but do i look sexy or nah ??
@benjalucian1515
@benjalucian1515 3 жыл бұрын
@@MikaelaCher - sadly not much difference now. Look at the adverts in TV and magazines for cancer clinics. The women always look pretty and put together. So women, be aware, even if you're seriously ill, you need to look good.
@vienandreitenorio1130
@vienandreitenorio1130 3 жыл бұрын
times when everything was poetic
@_peepee_
@_peepee_ 3 жыл бұрын
i forgot which it was but i heard one queen was so poisoned by lead over the years that her face was nearly falling off
@annacarollina7703
@annacarollina7703 3 жыл бұрын
Ages ago i saw a gifset on tumblr abt the costume designer talking about how often lucille outfits used the same detailing and fabrics as the ones they used on the house, "almost as if her and that haunted house are made from the same cloth" fascinating
@shirahime23
@shirahime23 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you for this bit of trivia. :)
@lilyelectric3610
@lilyelectric3610 3 жыл бұрын
whoa..
@373816hannah
@373816hannah 2 жыл бұрын
I love this movie more everytime I learn something new about it! If you guys haven't already, please watch the behind the scenes/making of videos
@Amarianee
@Amarianee 3 жыл бұрын
I love this movie. I HATE how it was advertised, and I'm glad Guillermo stood by it and basically said the same thing. One of the few times someone in Hollywood said how they actually feel. I think it's so underrated because the people going to see it weren't the target audience. They went in expecting a horror film and were treated to a symbolic dark romance instead. Knowing his work, I knew the trailers were likely a garbage representation of the film, but not everyone is familiar with his work. It definitely deserves more than it got.
@ArtemisMoon12
@ArtemisMoon12 3 жыл бұрын
I was told it was a horror as well, and only ever seeing Pacific Rim from Del Toro, didn’t really know what to expect. Then, when I got into the theatre and saw it unfold, the literature nerd within my heart stood up and sang. I saw it with a goth friend of mine who got too scared ironically enough. But since I went in expecting, like? Gross ghosts and jump scares? I was enthralled. It truly is a love letter to the macabre tropes and conventions, done with such attention to detail. But isn’t that the thing? So many good films get hurt by marketing teams who don’t know what they’re selling. (Jennifer’s Body being marketed to hormonal teen boys rather than young women for instance.)
@Amarianee
@Amarianee 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtemisMoon12 100% I love Jennifer's Body, and Diablo Cody was actually another creator who actually spoke out against Hollywood. She said exactly what you did. The movie was horror, but it had a much deeper meaning and was targeted (from her creation, not the stupid trailers) at young girls. It's still a good movie today. Arguably, even better, given the current social state of things.
@Nedow
@Nedow 3 жыл бұрын
They always do that to his work, in my opinion. I enjoy Guillermo del Toro's movies in general, but the best ones are so incompatible with standard movie genre classification that there's no way to market them using the same old canned formulas. Case in point, you can't say Crimson Peak is a horror movie (even though that's how they promoted it... loved the way Guillermo went into every interview like "it's not a horror movie", totally deadpan), but neither is it a romance, or anything like that, I guess the closest I can get to actually describing it is, I guess, a coming of age story, but even that falls short of the mark. I don't know, I just turn into that annoying friend and nag everyone I know into watching it... no one has complained afterwards, until now.
@aurafluff
@aurafluff 3 жыл бұрын
I mean the plot is a gothic horror story, the movie just isn't what is commonly considered a horror movie.
@sashamartens2633
@sashamartens2633 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nedow I consider Guillermo del Toro's movies to be (dark) fairytales. As a person who is fascinated with fairytales and all the symbolic power of old tropes I find so much hope, love for beauty and details in them.
@starrynights1067
@starrynights1067 3 жыл бұрын
This movie is just so underrated in general. I'm always finding new details and symbols
@lizabee484
@lizabee484 3 жыл бұрын
An incredibly underrated film discussed by an incredibly underrated content creator. This was wonderful! WHY DONT THEY HAVE MORE SUBSCRIBERS THIS IS A CRIME.
@saragarofano6471
@saragarofano6471 3 жыл бұрын
Wow gotta watch it now
@ian_b
@ian_b 3 жыл бұрын
I loved it. The design and particularly costumes are breathtaking, not an aspect I usually even notice :)
@rocktricksp1159
@rocktricksp1159 3 жыл бұрын
You should buy the art book from the website of the studio who produced the movie! It’s like a horror pop-up book it’s wild
@YmustTh3w0rldg0r0und2
@YmustTh3w0rldg0r0und2 3 жыл бұрын
It's because it was predictable, but I still liked it a lot.
@Persnikity-yv3nh
@Persnikity-yv3nh 3 жыл бұрын
That shot of Lucille chasing Edith down the stairs is just gorgeous. She's BECOME the moth.
@ZijnShayatanica
@ZijnShayatanica 2 жыл бұрын
I'm proud to be like #666. 🪰 [Unfortunately there is no moth emoji, so this fly will have to do.]
@msk-qp6fn
@msk-qp6fn 2 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE RIGHT OMG
@asteria1346
@asteria1346 2 жыл бұрын
Ö
@SeeMeRolling
@SeeMeRolling Жыл бұрын
Moth gf goals ?
@SergGirl
@SergGirl 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so weird to be reminded Crimson Peak is an Edwardian period piece when its whole vibe is so thoroughly Victorian
@KimaiiChan
@KimaiiChan 3 жыл бұрын
It's set around the 1900s. You can see this in the main characters fasion, especially at work, so nearing the Edwardian era. However, the clothes at Crimson Peak are much older, because they didn't have the financial means for a while again to buy the most recent fashion. Their fashion is said to be around 20 years old, so around 1880. Early 1900s did have those big sleeves, they made them even bigger later on to emphasise the frailty of the main character.
@lolajones9170
@lolajones9170 3 жыл бұрын
Apart from Lucille, who appears to wear clothing from the natural form era, the fashion in the movie is decidedly 1890s. Based on the size of the leg of mutton sleeves I'd say right in the middle of the decade, that's when they reached ultimate puffiness before gradually shrinking in size again. I don't know if the exact year in which the majority of the story takes place was ever stated, but we see multiple women sporting the same silhouette, which is definitely not Edwardian.
@lolajones9170
@lolajones9170 3 жыл бұрын
@a user Wearing vintage fashion wasn't a thing until at least 1970s, I believe. Ladies of the Victorian era were expected to follow the fashion of the time in order to appear proper and fit into society. The same standards didn't apply to elder women though, they could wear older fashions 💗
@mandypandy111ify
@mandypandy111ify 3 жыл бұрын
@@KimaiiChan From what I saw of the clothes, it DEFINITELY wasn't consistent with the fashion of the early 1880's. To me, it looks mid-1890's. But I could be wrong.
@KimaiiChan
@KimaiiChan 3 жыл бұрын
@@mandypandy111ify You might very well be right at that! I personally think the movie takes place somewhere around 1905, the movie did say around 20 years old about Thomas Sharpe, however Lucille might've been a bit more recent. I will also admit I'm more knowledgable about the Edwardian era than I am the Victorian!
@temiarvw1360
@temiarvw1360 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine it's 1860 you go up to your friend and say, "I fear my friend for I have consumption." and she says, "LUCCKKKYYY I WANT CONSUMPTION! YOU GONNA BE SO SKINNY! IMAGINE ALL THE HOT DUDES IMMA MEET AT YOUR FUNERAL!"
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 3 жыл бұрын
Insert: “Kim there are people that are dying meme”
@sandroselladore3506
@sandroselladore3506 3 жыл бұрын
jfdls;hlsdg
@stella-vu8vh
@stella-vu8vh 3 жыл бұрын
@@alyssapinon9670 then she asks you for exactly one cigarette, I can see it and hear it now, and i love it. This has always been my second or third thought in relation to living in the victorian era
@khloecohen4831
@khloecohen4831 2 жыл бұрын
lol!! so trueee!!
@hannahshipp6884
@hannahshipp6884 3 жыл бұрын
I lowkey could not get enough of Lucille's wardrobe evolution though. Like she's not just wearing clothes that are old- she's wearing her MOTHER’S dresses, her mother whom she hated, resented, murdered viciously, and then apparently whose wardrobe she snatched and hardly altered at all after getting back from the psych ward. But in the end scene she is completely undone- she's in her own shift, her own simple dark covering hanging about her and tied with a red ribbon, made that way by the truth coming out, it just *chefs kiss*
@distressedcondiments3113
@distressedcondiments3113 3 жыл бұрын
Guess victorians were really into ✨consumptioncore✨
@Sam-0827
@Sam-0827 3 жыл бұрын
This deserves more attention lol
@sarroumarbeu6810
@sarroumarbeu6810 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo 😂😂😂
@rx500android
@rx500android 3 жыл бұрын
Rare aesthetic check
@xx_blasphemer_xx8148
@xx_blasphemer_xx8148 3 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!!! Consumption Con.....just like Comic Con but not as fun.
@3katfox
@3katfox 3 жыл бұрын
Someone PLEASE make this a tiktok!
@Jay-qh6uv
@Jay-qh6uv 3 жыл бұрын
YES. The first time I saw this film I was freaking my shit over the costumes, especially Lucille’s. Her dresses are extremely well kept but about 20 years out of date. Not only does it have more grounded purpose in showing that the siblings are aristocrats that have fallen on hard times, but it also cements her as the personification of the past. Lucille represents the dark, comfortable dusty past for her brother, the safety of their relationship in a groaning, rotted, haunted old mansion replaying the same exhausting cycle like they’re already the ghosts that haunt the place. Edith represents the New World, progress, new beginnings (and eras) and clean slates. Lucille looks like she’s trapped in these constricting velvet and taffeta prisons, locked into the past that refuses to let her free. Edith moves easily in more practical, flowing outfits that suit her more progressive, on the go lifestyle. It felt like a cool Easter egg for people who have a cursory knowledge of historical fashion but not everyone knows. Totally thrilled the shit out of me. It’s the perfect modern Gothic Romance tbh. I know you say the twist is...unfortunate, but damn if it doesn’t nail gothic romance on the head. Weird spooky incest siblings scream gothic romance to me. Heathcliff and Catherine were *practically* brother and sister, so I think it works really well in the context of the genre. EDIT: would also like to add that while I’ve never heard it confirmed, I always thought Lucille’s conspicuously blue dress was lowkey a reference to Blue Beard, especially considering her behavior once Edith gets to the manor. She has all these keys and forbids Edith from going into certain areas of the house and I couldn’t help but think “female Blue Beard” while watching the movie.
@flu-shot-turned-me-gay
@flu-shot-turned-me-gay 3 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAAAAAAA I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING!!!!! (faerietales are my special interest) like, how she confirms that edith went into the room by using the keys? and how at least one of the corpses of the women before her was stored in a vat/tub in the forbidden room? totally bluebeard
@stella-vu8vh
@stella-vu8vh 3 жыл бұрын
@@flu-shot-turned-me-gay general, reporting for doody, whaddaya need
@Ellie-rx3jt
@Ellie-rx3jt 2 жыл бұрын
I literally said to the friends I watched the film with that it was (in my mind at least) clearly inspired by Bluebeard. At which point I found out that apparently a lot of people never read or had that horror told to them as children 😅 I don't really see Lucille as the female version though. I see her and her brother more as two broken halves of one single person. Not so much a good and bad side, but a side still capable of feeling human emotions towards another Vs a side only capable of relating to themselves, and terrified by the idea of outside influence. Lucille killing her brother is figuratively (and literally) killing herself and her future. I might be reading too much into it though. Interestingly, if you look at the Bluebeard wiki, Crimson Peak is listed under films
@msk-qp6fn
@msk-qp6fn 2 жыл бұрын
The blue beard thing is a really good point!!! Thank you for teaching me this!!
@bekw4366
@bekw4366 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Consumption and Anorexia have alot in common - in respect to how they are often romanticised yet tragic, unpleasant conditions.
@moonlites2028
@moonlites2028 3 жыл бұрын
true, I was going to say how much the glamourisation of consumption reminds me of the heroin chic look of the 90s
@katfujioka212
@katfujioka212 3 жыл бұрын
@@moonlites2028 Similar elements of 'rich & famous people take an element of suffering and make it popular' lmao
@benjalucian1515
@benjalucian1515 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know of anyone who romanticizes anorexia.
@benjalucian1515
@benjalucian1515 3 жыл бұрын
@@Netjerett - are her fans kids?
@unexpectedspider
@unexpectedspider 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjalucian1515 aesthetic communities on tumblr in the 2010s, i think it’s tiktok now, just block the pro ana tag
@BeatleJuice108
@BeatleJuice108 3 жыл бұрын
"Gothic" was born to describe medieval architecture, and it had a negative connotation( it was seen as ugly by Renaissance standard, that was based on Classic canons), then it started to be used to refer to "medieval style" in general. During the Victorian Era there was quite a big medieval revival.
@QuirkyShiny
@QuirkyShiny 3 жыл бұрын
The film/story itself has firm roots in gothic fiction/horror which is a literary convention starting in the late 1700s
@BeatleJuice108
@BeatleJuice108 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuirkyShiny exactly. The "Gothic fiction" started (allegedly) with "the castle of Otranto", followed by many other novels set in haunted medieval castles. This is why is called "Gothic fiction" (from gothic architecture, which is medieval). Old castles influenced Victorian architecture as well. This is why Victorian houses are often used into horror movies (like "psycho", which is more of a thriller, but the purpose of using one is the same).
@lazycatjansen9442
@lazycatjansen9442 3 жыл бұрын
The word has an even older meaning, in that the Goths were a group of people who ruled Europe right after the Western Roman Empire fell. Gothic (the language they spoke), was part of the East Germanic branch of the Germanic language family, w/ that whole branch now being extinct. Gothic architecture is a style that was first used by where the Goths ruled, but soon spread all over Europe. So yeah, a word that once just referred to a tribe of people, now is a fashion style centered around dark colors, and sort of creepy/halloweeny vibe. Makes you wonder what the word English is gonna mean in a thousand years! 😅
@BeatleJuice108
@BeatleJuice108 3 жыл бұрын
@@lazycatjansen9442 yeah, i didn't mention it 'cause i thought the discussion was focused more on an artistic level and i wanted to make things short ahah, but you're right, it's definitely a fascinating thing how words can change their meaning and evolve overtime
@samanthawallbrown9243
@samanthawallbrown9243 3 жыл бұрын
It’s also kind of ironic how what the Renaissance standard defined as Goth: aka dark gloomy ancient buildings, when those same buildings were only like that because they were never properly cleaned. In fact, when they were built, they let in A LOT of light and were amazing to be in and weren’t dark or gloomy at all. In fact, if they kept those buildings as clean as the Notre Dame de Paris Cathedral is today, the “goth” architecture wouldn’t have been defined as such. Also, the Renaissance was behind the stigma of the “Dark Ages”, which actually weren’t regressive in how we think they are: when the Roman Empire got kicked out of what we know as Britain, the Celtics that lived there simply abandoned Roman style for their own simpler one aka they went back to doing things their own way. It’s the equivalent of making everyone study science when most really want to be another major, and when the rule is changed, mostly everyone abandoning science to pursue another major, but you don’t think pursuing science as a major is any better than pursuing English or a humanities major right? As proof , look up the etymology of the word barbarian, as that is what the Romans called the Goths. You’ll find the original meaning behind what they exactly called them very very interesting.
@lilcassettetape
@lilcassettetape 3 жыл бұрын
Lucille grabbing the knife from the drawer and the way the gown flowed with that movement was so ghostly and then her running around is literally engrained in my mind as one of the most hauntingly beautiful scenes of all time
@reneedailey1696
@reneedailey1696 2 жыл бұрын
The entire film was a painting, but with real living people and backgrounds. Just gorgeous to look at, even during the dark/creepy moments.
@albertmorris6162
@albertmorris6162 3 жыл бұрын
"Death and despair, and pretty dresses," I'm hooked.
@clown-cult96
@clown-cult96 3 жыл бұрын
This very much set the ground for the “sick-lit” that is still so popular today, where terminal illness is something that’s seen as tragic, beautiful, romantic and exploited as such, especially in inevitable movie adaptations.
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Idk why I ate that shit up as a teenager but I kinda regret it now 🤦🏽‍♀️
@bigolsimp9423
@bigolsimp9423 3 жыл бұрын
@@alyssapinon9670 same
@clown-cult96
@clown-cult96 3 жыл бұрын
@@alyssapinon9670 character development lmao
@rageagainstthemicrowave1313
@rageagainstthemicrowave1313 3 жыл бұрын
yeah my mom had tb. she's alive but had part of her lung removed. it's pretty rare now so it was so surprising to doctors she had it. pretty disturbing disease. not something one should romanticize.
@stella-vu8vh
@stella-vu8vh 3 жыл бұрын
I hate this, so much. John green can maybe possibly literally go get BENT. Nothing about it is okaaaayyyyyyy. I mostly wish it didn't exist because they leave you entirely unprepared for when you get really sick and everyone in your life distances themselves because they're unexperienced with death, illness and terminal illness, and they just don't know how to handle it so they stay away so as to not. Now this doesn't happen to everyone, but this is a literal trope, now, things I didn't know until I fractured my spine and couldn't walk Hope that my comment saves somebody from that same deeply traumatizing experience hidden within a traumatizing experience.
@mellawrence1119
@mellawrence1119 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a cool and informative video essay! I don't know much about Crimson Peak but I'm really fascinated by the Victorian Era and the consumptive image. One thing I've read (primarily in The Victorian Book of The Dead, a loose collection of primary sources about Victorian-era funeral customs that I highly, highly reccommend) is that tuberculosis was also considered a "beautiful death;" it allowed you to have a long, slow decline, while mentally lucid enough to set your affairs in order, and, because germ theory wasn't as pervasive, bid fond goodbyes to all of your family members in person. I just find it interesting that the progression of the disease itself also lead to the idealization of it! I really enjoyed this essay and I'm glad more people are talking about this very weird part of mourning culture, I think it's absolutely fascinating.
@pixiestyx8158
@pixiestyx8158 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I have tuberculosis and can attest to some of this! Yes, it absolutely is a slow decline. Most people with tuberculosis don't have a cough serious enough to warrant attention and it goes un-diagnosed for years. Lucidity however depends on how serious your symptoms! Tuberculosis makes you lose your appetite and some other symptoms include nausea and vomiting. The night sweats and abdominal pain can be so severe you also won't be able to sleep. After so many nights of not eating, not drinking, and not sleeping, that lucidity slips away real quick. My doctors took forever diagnosing me and had been dismissing my issues or telling me it was in my head. After what I've experienced, I'm sure the majority of tuberculosis sufferers in the Victorian-era were institutionalized before they were sent to a doctor. Having tuberculosis suuuuucks, doctors don't listen to you and people find you oddly attractive when you're feeling the worst.
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixiestyx8158 First of all, I am terribly sorry you had to fight so long to be diagnosed. Doctors can sometimes be right little bastards. And stay away from herbal stuff. Especially Saint John's Wort. It neutralizes the medication for tuberculosis and can have it come back full force. Secondly: "and people find you oddly attractive when you're feeling the worst." WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE
@pixiestyx8158
@pixiestyx8158 3 жыл бұрын
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 No facility is taking accountability for me right now, so I'm not on any meds yet. It has been the most intense medical drama I've ever been apart of. I've gone from pcp, to infectious disease specialist, to health department, back to pcp, and now going back to the health department on Monday for more testing. It has been a month now with the diagnosis and I am not on any kind of treatment plan, so just over here nightsweating my way to a whole new me. I don't look "sick" in ways that people view unattractive. It's a fusion of "wow you look great and really need to eat something.".
@elvingearmasterirma7241
@elvingearmasterirma7241 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixiestyx8158 Jesus. I hope it gets sorted soon. ):
@pixiestyx8158
@pixiestyx8158 3 жыл бұрын
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 Thank you! In the Victorian era I would have taken to the streets dashing around in my chemise screaming my frustrations at the moon, but I'm super close to being labeled with a mood disorder after this so I'll settle for venting on the internet instead.
@sophieelsa7469
@sophieelsa7469 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a parallel could be drawn between 19th century tuberculosis chic, and the trend of cancer romances and 'manic cancer dream girls', women whose fleeting nature is meant to teach the men of the story about life and about love. women in these stories are nearly never portrayed accurately, for example shailene woodley in the Fault in Our Stars. xx
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 3 жыл бұрын
Omg you’re right! God I learn so much from the comments and the video
@skylinesandturnstiles9595
@skylinesandturnstiles9595 3 жыл бұрын
this phase is so ingrained in my brain, like it was yes a few years ago but.. ok i live in italy and here, at the time, we got a few italian movies (that went along with the usually american ones like the fault in our stars) like one about this red-headed girl that the protagonist was in love with, and she got leukemia, and *then* we got a whole tv drama thingy about kids in the hospital. most of them on the verge of death at the drop of a hat and tragic romances all around. it was incredibly popular and honestly? i cried so fucking hard at that one. but yeah it was... a time.
@alias_number_one
@alias_number_one 3 жыл бұрын
A Walk to Remember is another movie
@Ami_E_Bowen
@Ami_E_Bowen 3 жыл бұрын
That book genre is known as "sick-lit" like Fault In Our Stars, etc.
@sandroselladore3506
@sandroselladore3506 3 жыл бұрын
HEROIN CHIC
@TheSolitaryGrape
@TheSolitaryGrape 3 жыл бұрын
14:38 just adding on, I love how this green robe enhances Edith's current state at this point in the film through colour. First, the pale, sickly green connects to her weakened state from the poisoning, exacerbating her pale skin and almost adding a green tinge of illness. Also, y'know, there tends to be an association between green and poison. Secondly, green is a secondary colour made by mixing yellow, which we associate here with light, warmth, life, Buffalo NY, and Edith herself, and blue, which we associate here with darkness, the cold, oppressive Allerdale Hall, and Lucille herself with her part 2 gown. We even see this in the colour grading of Buffalo vs Allerdale. This green of Edith's nightgown speaks to me about how deeply Allerdale and Lucille have affected her, corrupted her almost, and the incompatibility of the butterfly with the habitat of the moth. Like you said, night and day. Her warm yellow has been infected with the blue of her surroundings, and it has changed her irreversibly. However, the nightgown is trimmed with yellow. Her light still survives within her, even in her darkest hour, and she triumphs because she holds onto it, clinging to her strength, and hope, and belief in her sanity, and doesn't give in to the darkness. She defys the hall, slowing dragging her into the ground with it, and claws her way back to life.
@kaepiper
@kaepiper 3 жыл бұрын
this is smart as hell, i hope i’m able to see these kinds of things once i get into college and begin studying art.
@Schaudwen
@Schaudwen 3 жыл бұрын
OP compare the costuming at the end of the movie to Lucille and Edith becoming like ghosts of the house, but I always thought the diaphanous sleeves and billow the shirts was meant to reflect how they had become the MOTHs of the house. This puts the restriction of Lucille's outfits on a further symbolic level of being the hard restrictive shell of some pupa. And when she sheds her outer layers, like the moths of the house, she hunts down Edith - clearly meant to harken back to the earlier line about how the moths of Allerdale Hall would subsist on 'butterflies', which Lucille clearly saw Edith as taking the role of. BUT, when Edith is caught in this life and death struggle with Lucille, Edith is ALSO dressed in white, not unlike a moth herself.... which one could argue foreshadows how she is not easy prey for Lucille in the end.
@seeaaannnn
@seeaaannnn 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe how excited I got at seeing that someone made a good quality video talking about my favourite looking film
@autumn7809
@autumn7809 3 жыл бұрын
Not only is the costuming gorgeous and historically consistent, it directly plays a role in the story! Hell yeah!
@doodling-gods
@doodling-gods 2 жыл бұрын
The clasped hands on Edith's belt are also a symbol often used in headstones. Basically "We shall meet again in death"
@alena8933
@alena8933 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching crimson peak, I literally got chills from watching it. So many beautiful dresses and houses but such a despairful story. If you haven't watched it please do because you won't regret it
@awkwardyoshi6979
@awkwardyoshi6979 3 жыл бұрын
"Notice how prevalent those s e x y s e x y consumption symptoms are" never thought I'd hear THAT when I clicked on this video.
@kobanogard5701
@kobanogard5701 3 жыл бұрын
I love that after hearing the comparison of a moth and butterfly, The frantic flailing of Lucille when chasing Edith does resemble the frantic fluttering of a moth
@_TIO
@_TIO 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Crimson Peak advertised as this horror movie, and as a huuuuge horror movie fan I was hyped to see a historic horror themed film. But as I watched it, sure enough it had horror aspects with the ghosts, it was the emotional aspects of it all that I enjoyed. I wish the adverts and the posters advertised it what it was, an elegant and emotional movie with small aspects of horror and not just a full on horror movie.
@lexg5317
@lexg5317 4 жыл бұрын
This was such an interesting video! I already loved the fashion in crimson peak but this video is making me appreciate it on a whole other level. Loved your analysis!
@KazRowe
@KazRowe 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@1313fina
@1313fina 3 жыл бұрын
'"The things we do for a love like this are ugly, mad, full of sweat and regret…This love burns you and maims you and twists you inside out. It is a monstrous love and it makes monsters of us all."' -Lady Lucille Sharpe. One of the best quotes in the movie and my favorite Lucille quote!
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Cholera wants to speak to you for leaving her off the epidemic list at the beginning.
@linasayshush
@linasayshush 3 жыл бұрын
Right! Especially because Edith's mom literally dies of Cholera in the beginning of the movie.
@deborahcrawford9079
@deborahcrawford9079 3 жыл бұрын
Dying of dehydration from diarrhea-not as sexy
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 3 жыл бұрын
Smallpox would like a word as well.
@khloecohen4831
@khloecohen4831 2 жыл бұрын
hehehe,the comments 😆
@zimlover3
@zimlover3 3 жыл бұрын
i legitimately was just texting my friends about crimson peak and how amazing the costumes are ..... thank u to the algorithm for showing me ur video!!!
@trashcan2748
@trashcan2748 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, nothing says “sexy” like literally dying 💞💞💞
@missanthropy5687
@missanthropy5687 3 жыл бұрын
this is one movie in particular that I truly wish had been a mini-series! the story is so incredible and I wish we'd gotten more! thank you for this incredible explanatory video
@horseenthusiast9903
@horseenthusiast9903 3 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone popping off "Why was Queen Victoria a terrible person" here in the comments, hear it from me, a big ole nerd for the 1840-70s: like other European monarchs, she turned a blind eye to many evil things done in other lands in the name of empire, particularly in India. See, for instance, the Bengal Famine Genocide, and the Irish Potato Famine (the Choctaw nation, themselves suffering much under American imperialism, gave a similar amount of financial support to the Irish people as Victoria. Note that Queen Victoria had the riches of the world at her disposal, and the Choctaw people had, in the last decade, been viciously forced upon the Trail Of Tears and moved to foreign lands, and the American government was determined to deprive them even of those lands). While perhaps she was not as heavy handed or bloodthirsty as other monarchs, she had the same problem as the English monarchy still has today: she was all too happy to be a bystander, to profit from colonialism and occasionally give to a charity to clean her image from that. She was all too happy to live her life of comfort, to let England tread upon the throat of the world, and not have to trouble her conscience about it. THAT is why she was a terrible person.
@camillabs87
@camillabs87 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention doing things like dismissing her daughter's grief for her child because, in Vicky's words, "at least you didn't lose a husband as I did". Selfish and egotistical, to say the least.
@benjalucian1515
@benjalucian1515 3 жыл бұрын
@@camillabs87 it was the attitude of the day. Losing kids was expected. High mortality rates of children before modern medicine. The attitude was, you could always have another kid. But losing a spouse for a woman was devastating.
@benjalucian1515
@benjalucian1515 3 жыл бұрын
Not like Queen Victoria was any different from her fellow monarchs in this regard. She really didn't rule for many many years. Her Prime Minister did.
@samanthawallbrown9243
@samanthawallbrown9243 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not trying to advocate for her being a bystander to all the things most monarchs did, because what you said was 100% true, but in the case of America, didn’t the Monroe Doctorine physically and mentally prevent her from being involved in American politics?
@jter2839
@jter2839 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjalucian1515 This. I hate looking at the past and judging people with today's societal norms. Most people in the past would be considered terrible people, but not in their time. I think it's better to compare the times and see how far we have come rather than judge what was considered normal back then.
@libbygardner4672
@libbygardner4672 3 жыл бұрын
watched crimson peak for the first time last week and i fell in love with it, it’s a rather tragic and unexpected story, but i did love it very much. the way the story was told and how the story moves swiftly but with so much detail is incredible
@latifx3944
@latifx3944 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on this explanation! I have a deep love for De Toro's work and was especially sad to see Crimson Peak overlooked. The details they put through all of the movie is pure artistry. If you watch the directors cut they also talk about details of writings on the walls. I'm convinced I could spend all day talking about Crimson Peak alone.1☺
@Amarianee
@Amarianee 3 жыл бұрын
It ended up overlooked because critics and audiences were expecting a horror movie. Del Toro spoke up about his disappointment in the trailers and that he never intended it to be a traditional horror film. I think if it was advertised for what it was, more people that wanted to see it would have, and it would have been reviewed on it's own merit, as opposed to failing to be "scary." It's unfortunate, but at least it still has love from those of us that know what to expect from Del Toro. 😉
@latifx3944
@latifx3944 3 жыл бұрын
@@Amarianee Very true! I had forgotten it had been marketed as such. Then again, our concept of "scary" was different at that time to. Everyone wS into blood and gore. I've always veered towards psychological thriller/horror. Like the 6th sense when it came out. I'm always a fan of Del Toros work, and I agree that for those who are familiar with him know what to expect and can have a deep appreciation for even an "unpopular " piece. My guess is in 20 years from now Crimson Peak will be a big cult hit.
@Amarianee
@Amarianee 3 жыл бұрын
@@latifx3944 I agree. And you're completely right about the time. Horror movies were being pumped out and there was big market for then (still is, but, really big then), so they tried to capitalize on that. The problem is that, the companies that make trailers, typically have no relation to the studios let alone the creators of films. So, they use their own discretion based on how _they_ think the movie should be marketed. I LOATHE misleading trailers, and audiences have loudly expressed that, yet it keeps happening 🙄 It's definitely been finding it's audience, so I think it will definitely become a cult hit; it's just a shame that, that's the way it went
@worrywirt
@worrywirt 2 жыл бұрын
Do u know if the director’s cut is available anywhere online?? That sounds so interesting
@latifx3944
@latifx3944 2 жыл бұрын
@@worrywirt honestly, Im not sure where you can watch it online. I bought the dvd as I like to collect all of his movies.
@KaylaNoelle1
@KaylaNoelle1 3 жыл бұрын
I really love how we haven't romanticized Covid-19 yet! I had it and it wasn't cute, I did get kind of pale and I lost weight but then I had a migraine so bad it was like torture and I vomited uncontrollably and had to be heavily drugged at the hospital... which definitely isn't sexy. Some people also lose their hair or lose control over their bladder Which also definitely isn't sexy.
@Eris_Norregard
@Eris_Norregard 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't there already a whole subgenre of erotic and/or romance novels based around the Covid quarantine? 😂
@KaylaNoelle1
@KaylaNoelle1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eris_Norregard Okay but like satire is fun!
@sherryhassler5932
@sherryhassler5932 3 жыл бұрын
I worked in ICU from way before the pandemic until this past March. For me, pandemic fashion was this: old Birkenstocks falling apart, hospital scrubs that don't fit (for a while they provided OR scrubs because, reasons), homemade cloth masks over my N-95, at one point the N95 had to last six weeks until it smelled like stale pee, glasses, goggles over that, and the ugliest hat I have ever made in my life, looked like a Holly Hobbie bonnet without the sunshade. Oh yes, add gown, gloves, sometimes shoe covers on top of all that. I would have cut someone in half if they'd suggested I shove a face shield on top, some days. All of that made it likely for the hearing aids to spontaneously detach themselves and fall into contaminated trash, fun, fun... Anyways, that's got zilch to do with the movie, I'm sure. Just saying, I hope never to see any of that romanticized, as it's pretty nightmarish for me. Cottagecore, as a reaction, well that's pretty nifty, but hopefully nowadays, we know what "sick" looks like and don't think it's a good thing.
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 3 жыл бұрын
@@sherryhassler5932 first of all thank you for your service to the public! My aunt is a nurse too so I’ve heard of how terrifying it is to work at the hospital in covid times. Secondly I also much rather prefer cottage core as a reaction to covid than “sick core” because it’s more about escapism and hope than romanticizing illnesses. Plus the return of poofy sleeves, flouncy skirts, and fitted tops are a yes! I want to wear Mia Wasikowska’s poofy sleeves dresses in Crimson peak so badly
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I hope you are doing ok now! I got a more mild form of covid but it was still the worst I ever felt! I felt nauseous every time I walked so I wanted to lie down all the time. Nothing sexy about covid symptoms.
@C0smicRae
@C0smicRae 3 жыл бұрын
She was trying to write a book I'm assuming about her childhood experiences with ghosts and the guy who she took it to to publish said their needed to be a romance in it.. well after this whole thing she finally had the story of her life
@stormfischerr
@stormfischerr 3 жыл бұрын
I finally got around to watching Crimson Peak a few months ago (after 5 freaking years of wanting to, damn) and I love it so freaking much, especially for the costumes.
@exitmusicfrafilm
@exitmusicfrafilm 3 жыл бұрын
this was so well done!! i just watched the film for the first time yesterday and the costuming really stuck out to me; not in the technical/historical sense as you've explained so well, but more in the colour symbolism way e.g lucille's colour palette in the house resembling the colour of its walls & its interior which only emphasises her emotional ties to it/the idea that the house too is something she's not just trapped within, but a rot she's indistinguishable from. and the historical side of it really added to that feeling of total entrapment like....talk about being trapped in a house that's metaphorically consuming you while the spectre of a disease - amidst all the ghosts of said house - hang overhead. well sorry this is so long i really really enjoyed this thanks for making it
@jo4210
@jo4210 3 жыл бұрын
Wainanminnit... corsets.. can help with period cramps?! I’m literally watching this (fantastic) video with a heating pad pressed to my uterus waiting for the cramps to end lol I don’t even like bras very much but I might need to invest in a corset soon 🤔
@cecilyerker
@cecilyerker 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a corset and it arrived in the mail today, my back and tummy felt great all day! Orchard Corset is a great brand of inexpensive proper steel boned corsets and you can find a lot of them on eBay as factory seconds for about half the price of retail.
@jo4210
@jo4210 3 жыл бұрын
@@cecilyerker thank you so much for the suggestion!! I found a few that I really like
@kohakuaiko
@kohakuaiko 3 жыл бұрын
@@cecilyerker I didn't know they sold the "2nds" there
@Kardinaalilintu
@Kardinaalilintu 3 жыл бұрын
@@jo4210 For the best fit and comfort a custom made is always the best bet but I do understand that money doesn't grow on trees. How ever; if you at some point have enough money left over and are interested in purchasing a custom made corset, there are several historical costumer channels on YT that deep dive in the world of corsetry and what to take into account. Even for a second hand buy or not specially fitted garment I'd recomend taking a peek at their content if you haven't already. I'd recomend starting with Benadette Banner, she has experience on both modern medical corestry and historical corsetry.
@jo4210
@jo4210 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kardinaalilintu I’ve been watching a lot of Bernadettes videos lately!! I actually just watched one where she made a corset for her lady Sherlock outfit!
@beverlye739
@beverlye739 3 жыл бұрын
How surprisingly intelligent this small film has turned out to be-- I had landed the video quite by chance, but will certainly try to view more of your work, Kaz Rowe. I sometimes search far afield in following my interest in Nineteenth Century art, especially Symbolist Painters and the era of their work. Your unique view into "the beautiful disease", and Victorian culture, made my day. And I'm sure that your other offerings are likely to contain just as much quality content. Thanks.
@fionnagrant6636
@fionnagrant6636 3 жыл бұрын
We all die eventually, if you want some say in what you're buried in making your own shroud sounds kind of practical to me.
@vikkipink1288
@vikkipink1288 3 жыл бұрын
This actually a visual masterpiece and I hate that it was marketed as a run of the mill horror movie because that’s what audiences were expecting so I think it’s remembered poorly.
@rageagainstthemicrowave1313
@rageagainstthemicrowave1313 3 жыл бұрын
My mom had TB and had part of her lung removed. Definitely a pretty disturbing disease. She only tells me about It because I was like 5 when she had it. It's pretty rare these days, thankfully. she still doesn't know how she got it.
@alebarreraforsyth4648
@alebarreraforsyth4648 2 жыл бұрын
it's actually quite common still, we just are better equipped to deal with it; better public hygiene, better medical support for ill people, and better medicines to treat the illness and other options like surgery - so people are more likely to survive. I'm glad to hear your mum got better :)
@kaepiper
@kaepiper 3 жыл бұрын
i’ve seen crimson peak so many times (mainly bc tom hiddleston looks exceptionally beautiful in it) and it is definitely underrated.
@nkoumbaaurelia2275
@nkoumbaaurelia2275 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the ambiance in Crimson Peak's! And I loved your video about it!
@nikoteardrop4904
@nikoteardrop4904 3 жыл бұрын
Quick correction: What you're referencing is "romantic" or "historical" goth, which did certainly show up fairly early. The original goth aesthetic-- "trad goth"-- was a direct spin-off from the punk aesthetic of the UK in the mid-late 70s (So, you know, dressing like Richard Hell): Leather, spikes, war coats, and high-maintenance hair paired with black as the dominant color, lace, and consumptive makeup of varying degrees of intricacy. Sincerely, An elder trad-goth
@pucklebearry
@pucklebearry 3 жыл бұрын
See, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying, by technicality, wouldn't the romantic or historical goth be more 'traditional' or 'original' than the punk spin-off of the 70s seeing as it came first? I understand entirely what you mean, it's just logically I can't really say people are wrong for thinking the one that came first as the original. Edit to Add: Y'all I was making an effing joke, lmao. Stop replying to me with the facts, I just made a joke and pointed out why people can come to that conclusion when they aren't interested beyond a light context. I didn't even point out how we're taught briefly about "Gothic architecture" and how the reasonable conclusion would be that the time gothic architecture was built was the original time period of gothic aesthetics. I will not be reading any of your replies, it's been over a year at this point. Let. It. Go.
@libbykelly2809
@libbykelly2809 3 жыл бұрын
@@pucklebearry The gothic subculture has many different aesthetics tied to it. I'm pretty sure the original goths were inspired by the punk and glam rock aesthetics as well as the victorian era, But technically trad goth did come first because it solidified the subculture.
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 3 жыл бұрын
@@pucklebearry The subculture mostly came from the music, and the first goth bands definitely looked far more punk than Victorian. Bauhaus are probably the quintessential goth band, and their look was all about leather pants, fishnet, torn black tees, big hair, bold makeup, and Peter Murphy doing his best to be a camp-horror David Bowie. A good look at bands like The Damned, Siouxie and the Banshees, The Cure, and other bands that were at the foundation of the scene in the late 70's and early 80's, shows that they definitely shared a punk or post-punk look. Genre purists still argue whether The Damned are punk or goth, and Sid Viscous of The Sex Pistols was Siouxie and the Banshees original drummer. Something that some kids might not get is that these old subcultures had a lot more to them than internet aesthetics; back in the day we grew our subcultures *organically!*
@lovebug_taffy2263
@lovebug_taffy2263 3 жыл бұрын
Just want to add: the goth subculture is music driven (the modern iteration that is). Which indeed started as a spin off of the 70’s punk movement!
@Volzotran
@Volzotran 3 жыл бұрын
@@pucklebearry Goth and Gothic are not the same thing, just pasting this here rq: @Lazycat jansen not entirely correct. First of all Goth and Gothic are different terms with different meaning. "The" Goths were what you correctly explained, a specific group of people. The word Gothic on the other hand is a descriptive word used for Architecture, Literature, Films and other things, but it is not Goth. "Goth" or the "Goth subculture" is a music based subculture and not a fashion or style. Yes, the Goth subculture has a typical fashion that developed with it but this fashion is not a must or the center of the subculture, the main focus is the music, Goth Rock or Post punk. And also a lot of Goth music incorporates Gothic literature and movies, but that doesn't make the latter Goth. Just like, if for example a Pop song talks about Candy, that wouldn't make Candy "Pop". I get that it's confusing due to the words being very similar, but please remember that Goth≠Gothic and that Goth is a music subculture and NOT just a style/fashion or everything that is "spooky".
@ushere5791
@ushere5791 2 жыл бұрын
i remember some years back a heroine chic with an eerie overlap in beauty "standards" to consumption chic: pale, emaciated, pinks and reds bringing out the lips, eyes, and highest points of the cheekbones.
@pixiestyx8158
@pixiestyx8158 3 жыл бұрын
I was just diagnosed with tuberculosis a couple weeks ago and I needed this video. I'm iron deficient consumption-chic and it has been a weird experience.
@horseenthusiast9903
@horseenthusiast9903 3 жыл бұрын
Oof, I hope you're doing alright! Best of luck in healing, dude
@pixiestyx8158
@pixiestyx8158 3 жыл бұрын
@@horseenthusiast9903 Thank you! Still haven't heard from anyone regarding a conclusion yet after this week's testing, fingers crossed for some news on Monday.
@NightmareVixen12art
@NightmareVixen12art 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you're doing better
@pixiestyx8158
@pixiestyx8158 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightmareVixen12art Thank you 🖤 they just told me yesterday I'm not contagious, but I need to wait a month and a half for them to grow a culture for them to decide what meds I need to be on to treat it. The heath department can only treat me for the TB, but not the fierce symptoms. My PCP can't do anything more for me, so i'm at the "if you can't breathe or faint go to the emergency room" part of my medical care. I asked for Xanax so I wouldn't be climbing the walls and could try to mellow out and try to eat more, but no dice. BeCaUsE ITs AdDiCtIvE. Definitely had a 15 minute pity party for myself yesterday, but doing much better today. Thank you again for asking. 🖤
@NightmareVixen12art
@NightmareVixen12art 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixiestyx8158 You're welcome. Get better soon
@victoriadiesattheend.8478
@victoriadiesattheend.8478 3 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of this director, this film, and the Victorian period has fascinated me since I was about 4 and remember my mother telling me for the first time that I was named for Queen Victoria,a historical figure she had studied in depth and admired. This is a great vid. Now subbed!
@mugooss5380
@mugooss5380 3 жыл бұрын
You definitely deserve more views! This is so well done!
@kathrynmccarthy
@kathrynmccarthy 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched Crimson Peak because, well. . . ghosts! But now I might watch it (with all the lights on) just to see all of those beautiful costumes.
@user-kv4ni8fz5w
@user-kv4ni8fz5w 3 жыл бұрын
oof i had the opportunity to see these dresses in person. as stunning as they are in the movie and pictures, they are truly something to gawk at in person
@psychedlicsouljam1995
@psychedlicsouljam1995 2 жыл бұрын
hi im victoria i have autism and im from canada , i love your channel and it helps me calm down when my anger takes over, my body heat is uncontrolable , and i have serious self harm past, but i think sharing is caring, keeping a strict daily scheduale, and staying healthy and my mind occupied with interesting hobbies, i can manage my symptoms so much better . i just wanted to share, thanks for the great uploads!
@Rachel-fi4sc
@Rachel-fi4sc 2 жыл бұрын
I was an opera student for a good eight years. It seems like tuberculosis is a major plot point in every opera ever written from about 1800 onward and is responsible for death of ever operatic heroine in the same timeframe. How striking that a woman dying of a respiratory illness should suddenly gain the breath to have a big, dramatic swan song before dying in the arms of her beloved in the final scene!
@ryanm9566
@ryanm9566 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent blend of history, fashion, and film analysis. No notes. More of this please.
@anabanana2809
@anabanana2809 3 жыл бұрын
The right amount of correct historical information about "medicine through time"
@mandi96
@mandi96 3 жыл бұрын
Once a year I watch this movie and then go looking on KZbin only to find... No one's talking about this movie and it's gorgeous costumes?! Thank you so much!
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 3 жыл бұрын
Me watching the familial twist scene can be summed up by the “I’m gonna vomit” vine. I watched this movie last night and loved the costumes, but I wanted to see how historical fashion youtubers rated the accuracy of it. Now I’ve learned a lot about Victorian fashion trends and got a good laugh too. You have a new subscriber Kaz!
@EmpressCosplay
@EmpressCosplay 3 жыл бұрын
Death, despair and pretty dresses? Ooooh, I'm in, friend.
@kamhidraws
@kamhidraws 3 жыл бұрын
I only just heard of this movie. I literally just paused the video because the context of it was so interesting, I need to go watch it! I'll be back soon
@Kardinaalilintu
@Kardinaalilintu 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice, It's an excelent movie.
@atlasnox9469
@atlasnox9469 2 жыл бұрын
i remember the discourse for this movie was maddening: no one was looking at the fact that Thomas was very much a victim, and while he was also a villain in a bunch of ways and he cant be redeemed, he does feel sorrow for his actions and tries to help Edith in the end. I think he was a trauma survivor still being tormented and warped by his abuser, his older sister. it made me so angry
@evy7408
@evy7408 4 жыл бұрын
WOW this was really well done! I really enjoyed learning from this and would love to see more!
@cathryncampbell8555
@cathryncampbell8555 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your informed video, Kaz Rowe! There's a fascinating book called "Tuberculosis and the Victorian Literary Imagination," by Katherine Byrne. Byrne explores how the Western world's interpretation of tuberculosis evolved over time. Queens, princes and commoners were afflicted alike by this ghastly scourge, but artists (such as the Pre-Raphaelites) made it 'fashionable.'
@sheenaghm3053
@sheenaghm3053 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it a wonderful book? 😻
@ReneTO
@ReneTO 3 жыл бұрын
This was such an awesome and educational video! I’ve never heard of Crimson Peaks, but the plot seems very similar to Edgar Allan Poe’s short story, The Fall of the House of Usher. Lots of parallels with the house being a living part of this dark, twisted family only survived by these (possibly incestuous) brother and sister. Seems like the movie is almost a beautiful reimagined version of House of Usher, which makes sense since it’s written by one of the most well known Gothic Romantic American writers! I’m geeking! Loved the video!
@frankenshelley29
@frankenshelley29 3 жыл бұрын
When i saw this in theatres, I fully expected the house to collapse at the end Usher style haha. This is the closest film to the plot of the Fall of the House of Usher, always been my fave Poe
@luizamavi2163
@luizamavi2163 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that KZbin recommended me your channel, everything amazing in one place with incredible research ❤❤❤
@bies4995
@bies4995 4 жыл бұрын
your vidoes are so well made and so informative and nice to watch! i really hope you will gain bigger following because you certainly deserve it :0
@KazRowe
@KazRowe 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! :'D
@tenny37
@tenny37 2 жыл бұрын
I already adored this movie, and your analysis and explanation just made it sooo much better 🥰 I felt the things you explained without understanding the reasons why
@misselaine7276
@misselaine7276 3 жыл бұрын
I loved crimson peak. The symbolism that they put into it was gorgeous and also really has you thinking. Even with some interesting turns it was really beautiful and well thought out.
@wistfulchameleon
@wistfulchameleon 2 жыл бұрын
The surge of happiness I felt when you quickly added how most women didn't tight lace. Thank you ^.^
@mollywantshugs5944
@mollywantshugs5944 2 жыл бұрын
Syphillus also left a mark on fashion in the Victorian era and especially the century before, but in the opposite way. Things like heavy makeup and powdered wigs started as ways to hide evidence of syphillus
@KevinFromTheOffice
@KevinFromTheOffice 3 жыл бұрын
Im so glad this video came into my suggestion, I loved the movie, absolutely loved it. The whole movie was like a painting that's straight out of another era, each frame and each set so beautifully crafted I could really watching over and over and always be amazed and inspired. The clothes and dresses are beyond breathtaking, the part where Lucille ran after Edith with her dress bellowing around her was so stunning, it was like a dream, I knew it then that I was in love with this movie. I bought the movie on google just so I can always have it with me
@angiekelley9038
@angiekelley9038 3 жыл бұрын
Women kept burial shrouds because they would most likely die in child birth; not because of TB.
@hdhfhdjsjs2741
@hdhfhdjsjs2741 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis. I can already feel this becoming one of my comfort video essays to revisit from time to time. A perfect balance of historical context and film analysis
@clarandie
@clarandie 4 жыл бұрын
realised after your latest upload that I never commented on this video >.< this one was super super interesting - I've never really known too much about Victorian fashion and what trends were, and the costume design aspect was really cool!!
@liquidwood4064
@liquidwood4064 2 жыл бұрын
fun little detail: the red rose on lucille's black dress in the picnic scene is the same spot where she later gets stabbed.
@childofnyx1
@childofnyx1 3 жыл бұрын
Goth isn't exclusively rooted in the Victorian Era as such, but moreover in Romanticism, where the sublime as well as death and other became important topics. Dracula, Frankenstein etc. are all Gothic novels, Gothic being a subgenre and/or successor of the Romantic movement.
@OneMustImagineSisyphusThicc
@OneMustImagineSisyphusThicc 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't the romantic movement span from about 1830 to 1890? Seeing as Queen Victoria died in 1891 that would place them in the same time period, romanticism just being an art movement taking place within the Victorian era. I could be wrong but I think that's how it is
@shirahime23
@shirahime23 3 жыл бұрын
This was a beautiful analysis. You have a way with words, and I learned a lot about the fashion portrayed in the film. Despite having watched the movie many times, there were things that I just didn't see until you pointed them out. Good on you to deepen our appreciation for the Victorian Era. Me, I will always be enamored with Crimson Peak. It perfectly blends the macabre, the gothic, the bittersweet and the elegance of an era that has long passed. Brava.
@secretembers
@secretembers 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so well done i want to watch forever
@aroseprince
@aroseprince 2 жыл бұрын
this video is IT! you lay it out so poetically and your sources and referces are used to great effect. Thank you! I love this film and now I appreciate it even more.
@armanchagla
@armanchagla 4 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this! I seem to have stumbled upon it in my search for character design references, and this just made it so much more of a transparent process, along with giving me such riveting information about the Victoria era. Kudos!
@AramatiPaz
@AramatiPaz 2 жыл бұрын
Random: I learned tuberculosis was know as consumption in the Ascendance of a Bookworm's fandom. This novel has an fantasy "illness" translated as "the consuming".
@whimsydearest
@whimsydearest 3 жыл бұрын
This is gold and you deserve way more subs
@maddiejo_draw
@maddiejo_draw 3 жыл бұрын
I wrote my undergraduate thesis about very early Victorian fashion. Your video taught me so much about how the trends became more macabre over time. Didn’t put it together that the majority of her reign she was in mourning wear. That makes so much sense!
@hollynotholy
@hollynotholy 3 жыл бұрын
I love how disgusted you look whenever you mention the ~familial~ twist. I guess that's exactly the type of horror Gothic novels wanted to evoke in readers whenever the trope was used in Literature (and why Guillermo decided to use it in his own writing of a Gothic tale): sexuality, secret, taboo... And horrifying. I have yet to read through the Gothic books in my to-buy list, but it seems like this tight proximity to relatives, even when talking about romantic/sexual relationships, was used to shock and bring accentuate the decadence that is so characteristic of short stories and novellas. Actually, scratch that: sexuality is quite literally at the center of the decaying morals and prestige of most of these Gothic themed pieces of writing. I love the movie so much (even though it doesn't seem to affect people not even half as much as it moved me?? maybe it's because I want to be a writer myself, so I could see a lot of the naïve, romantic, aspiring writer that she is in myself), but I hadn't yet looked for videos talking about it. I searched for Hawley's interviews, cast interviews, Guillermo del Toro's interviews, even articles online on the symbols so carefully crafted into the foundations of costume and scenario [non-English speaker question mark here] designs... But I'm thrilled I managed to find your video on it and, consequently, your channel. Never hit the subscribe button so fast.
@hollynotholy
@hollynotholy 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to add I said "I love" as in "it's really nice to see how it brings the reaction it's meant to bring in people"; not as in "love to see someone cringe". Noticed now it might sound super weird and creepy. FFS, I'm a mess at comments, why do I insist on writing them ;w; Sorry
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 3 жыл бұрын
No no this was really cool to read! Tbh I mostly watched the movie because of Tom Hiddleston so it’s really nice to see someone so genuinely passionate about and able to connect so deeply with a piece of art. I’m not a writer but I do relate to the naive, hopeless romantic aspect since I consume way too much romantic media (like this movie 😂) and your English is great! This video and the comments gave me a much better appreciation for the film and all the thought that went into it. Oh and me watching the “familial twist” scene can be summed up by the “I’m gonna vomit” vine.
@midnightstarlis6405
@midnightstarlis6405 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any gothic literatures to recommend?
@hollynotholy
@hollynotholy 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightstarlis6405 Off of the top of my head, I can think of a few titles I've seen recommended as gothic literature: The Castle of Otranto, The Monk, Wuthering Heights, The Fall of the House of Usher...
@misslyss11
@misslyss11 2 жыл бұрын
Crimson Peak is my favorite movie of all time. This was such a fantastic thorough essay, thank you!
@eviefromthemummy
@eviefromthemummy 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you in every point but one: Alan is not there for nothing. Besides providing the visual opposite to Thomas, with tanned skin and blond hair, he sets Edith's leg. But most importantly: he is the retrospective comic relief, retrospective because it took me a while to realise this: Eunice is his sister, but when Thomas is courting her, he doesn't give a damn. Only when Thomas turns his attention on Edith does he get suspicious. So, he is a terrible brother and it's quite funny
@hotcheerchick1219
@hotcheerchick1219 3 жыл бұрын
I love the little connections to the medical history, goth style and all the history that played into the costumes. The designer did and amazing job.
@c.w.8200
@c.w.8200 3 жыл бұрын
That's one thing I really like about Miyazaki's The Wind Rises, it's an anime movie that kids can watch but it shows the protagonists fiancee coughing up a large amount of blood, she's seriously ill and it isn't romanticized.
@chimeiamv
@chimeiamv 2 жыл бұрын
We read the original book and watched the movie in my Japanese lit class. It's really good. I'm glad to see someone else who knows about it here.
@Emma-zm7zb
@Emma-zm7zb 2 жыл бұрын
Crimson Peak is one of my 2 favorite movies of all time. It's just so beautiful in every way - visually, auditory, and story wise. Its simple, sure, but I think that works really well
@wesleywarren671
@wesleywarren671 3 жыл бұрын
“Hop in my hearse lads” is too good for me not to steal
@NaturalNihilist
@NaturalNihilist 3 жыл бұрын
Crimson Peak is one of my favourite films and the outfits are absolutely poetic and mostly historical which I love. I loved your take on it! I wish Crimson Peak had more attention.
@raquelnunes9793
@raquelnunes9793 3 жыл бұрын
This movie is one of my favourite pieces of media. I have the dvd, ive read the book, saw it on cinema, listen to the audiobook all the time. It has even inspired some of my artwork. Just makes my heart beat faster. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@kellyramirez7465
@kellyramirez7465 2 жыл бұрын
I adore this movie and watch it as September and Halloween starts to come around. I imagine that the Victorians, early Edwardians, or any other era that had rampant plague, sickness, and death used literature and art, romanticising these concepts as a way to cope with the horror of it. What better way to accept an inevitable end than to create a narrative that one can control? Same thing goes for war, invansion, and natural disaster. Looking back at the panic of the covid pandemic (which seems to have calmed as we have accepted its reality and it seems to be here to stay) the stories that sprung from it, whether it was the news or what we told each other.
@skepticmoderate5790
@skepticmoderate5790 3 жыл бұрын
"Hop into my hearse lads!" I'm gonna have to use that in October.
@splicerparade4648
@splicerparade4648 11 ай бұрын
This was fascinating! It's amazing how much thought and detail went into the costuming. Thank you for all the work you put into these videos.
@ragemutt5372
@ragemutt5372 3 жыл бұрын
This color theory is eerily similar to tge one used in Hallmark's A Christmas Prince 😂😂😂
@ian_b
@ian_b 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@holly7869
@holly7869 2 жыл бұрын
You are well-spoken a refreshing change from all the uh, ah, like, hum, giggle, and baby talk.
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 3 жыл бұрын
The TB got me interested. Stayed for the humour.
@TheSightOfTheStars
@TheSightOfTheStars 2 жыл бұрын
Aaah, a film by one of my favorite directors, which I went to go see, EXPRESSLY because of the costuming, and I am so excited for this video!
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