TIMELINE Wrestling |1987 | Tully Blanchard (WCW) & The Honky Tonk Man (WWF)

[@OllieByGolly]

Most entertaining part is Sean trying to get Tully to bury certain people, but, he just won't take the bait.... then he flashes that wicked grin and says everything without saying a word. Tully is so awesome.

[@birdmantd]

I can respect that but felt like Sean was pulling teeth sometimes just to get something out of Tully. Too many my opinion is no opinion at all. You don't have to bury guys like Honky does still provide a more interesting detailed answers.

[@rondorthecruel124]

I just want to hear Tully say what he really thinks.

[@wmsmith7346]

Seans always up to no good but I love the dorky little ham.

[@cutekanjii]

Boring more like

[@karlepaul6632]

@@cutekanjii eh...he simply doesn't wanna talk shit about people...boring for some listeners, but I can totally respect that

[@NateNizzle]

I noticed that on these Timelines, for the WWF guys Sean starts off talking about the average income, price of gas, who the president was, who was going to the superbowl, and the number one song. For WCW guys he talks about what was going on in the WWF.

[@larryjones4096]

Seems like yesterday,but in '87,I graduated high school and was in my naval training class the same summer HonkyTonk took the IC title and Tully and Arn were going at it with the Rock n Roll Express,I'm looking forward to hearing their side of that year indeed.

[@DarkLordofTheSith69]

​@@larryjones4096 it was a simpler time ...before the dark times ...before the empire

[@gladememmott3001]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ericjackson7632]

Same. Its weird.

[@mikejones4830]

Facts

[@suppcool]

I appreciate Tully's hearty laugh.

[@wildmanmountainjack3725]

I used to hate the Honky Tonk Man. Now if I met him I would buy him a beer.

[@jprice6419]

I got him right away, but I was the only one of my high school friends did not want to slap him. I loved Honky (WWF), Baron Von Raschke (AWA) and Arn Anderson (WCW). Hated Flair and Hogan

[@jonbaird8835]

​​@@jprice6419The fact that you felt the need to let us know how quickly you "got" him and how you annotated the territory each wrestler worked for using MLA format, like a child, makes me think you were born LONG after each of those men retired and you have a window for Wikipedia open at all times. F@&%ing CRINGE.

[@jasonkraatz9574]

Tully’s interview was like pulling teeth. He could have had a way better interview if he loosened up and shared some stories. I appreciate him protecting the business but if he really didn’t want to share any stories he shouldn’t have done the shoot. Honky Tonk Man was priceless. I could listen to him all day.

[@reallyannoyingguyrighthere]

Came here to say this. Great wrestler but what a nightmare for the interviewer. Too careful to not offend anyone or give an opinion. Dunno what they paid him but they should ask for it back. Thank god for Honky.

[@karlepaul6632]

Eh...he told enough...but if you're a fan of the dirt and people getting buried, then I guess he isn't for you.

[@Blacattacsquadron]

​@@karlepaul6632right on! He's done enough damage during his career. Too bad his daughter embraced his negative side.

[@rustykuntz94]

Tully was not giving up his blading techniques, old school. I believe he was one of the guys who did have his shit in his mouth so when Sean says how crazy it is to hear that Tully smiles.

[@dalegreening2325]

Love listening to Honky. He gives no fucks who he offends. He also gives credit where it’s due

[@m.otransformers4855]

The honky shoot looks like it took place in 88

[@nichhodge8503]

In 1993 I became aware that WWF did A,B,C shows because my first WWF show was SummerSlam 92 at the old Wembley Stadium and in early 93 my parents got my best friend, brother and I tickets to see a show in Exeter and we were shocked that WWF would come down this part of the country to run a show at Exeter which is 48 miles away from my home city of Plymouth, normally WWF/WWE run shows in London, Birmingham and Manchester (and recently Cardiff in Wales). So I was excited as I thought I was gonna see my favourite wrestler the Undertaker again as his match at SummerSlam 92 against Kamala wasn’t the best and this time my seat was 4 rows back from the ring where as at SummerSlam I was further away. Main event was Hacksaw Jim Duggan Vs Narcissist Lex Luger and the Bushwhackers were on the card as was Bob Backland and I can’t remember who else as I was so disappointed by what wrestlers were there. Now I know WWE run A shows in big cities like London and the only reason a small city like Exeter (Exeter is the capital city of Devon county but Plymouth is the largest city in Devon) is to give us the C show with all the old and unpopular wrestlers who nobody cares about, but as a kid I didn’t know the WWE did that and if I had known I wouldn’t of gone. But seeing SummerSlam 7-9 months earlier I was expecting all or some of the top wrestlers like Undertaker, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon, Steiner Brothers or Money Inc to be there, but my best mate was happy as he liked Narcissist Lex Luger and was glad to see him win the Main Event against Jim Duggan

[@YogsenForfoth]

Sean looks like he’s every bit of 12 years old. 😂

[@jackgriffin4538]

The electricity story might be my favorite.

[@m.otransformers4855]

Honky was wrestling at the college I went to in my junior year, he must of had 24 Gatorades

[@dussdamuss]

I know it sucks that the gimmick is up! But watching these guys talk about their escapades in the 80's is awesome! What a fun time to be dialed into wrestling as a kid!

[@pooddescrewch8718]

Killing Kayfabe , even though I knew it was a work , made an ex fan of me . Without Kayfabe wrestling is free to be anything but wrestling and it wastes no time in doing it.

[@donaldpainter956]

I lived wrestling in the 80s and Tully Blanchard could have been world champion he had more wrestling talent than most guys had. Not taking anything away from Flair

[@StevenJackson215]

Tully was brilliant. He got much more intense heat than Ric Flair got. I'm not sure he was long term world champion material, but definitely deserved at least one world title win.

[@pooddescrewch8718]

He had too much heat . Like it hurt him heat . He became unpopular . Looking back he was one of the best heels if all time but many of us just wanted him to go away . We believed that when we lined up to see Wahoo McDaniel beat him up that Wahoo drew the house , but a week later we were paying to see Barry Windham beat him up . Thinking Barry Windham sold that ticket . A month later we were Paying to See Magnum Beat him up and STILL !! We thought Magnum sold the ticket . We didn’t realize that Tully himself was making us dislike him so greatly ( we might have appreciated that like we did with Arn and Ric ) . We thought it was organic so we never gave him credit . He was too good for his own good .

[@pooddescrewch8718]

@@StevenJackson215if there was anyone who would have been a Judas in the 4 Horseman faction that could have gotten more heat than Tully for screwing Flair out of the championship … I can’t say who they are

[@MickyKaka8]

Only watched for Tonk man, need more.

[@ramirer9561]

1990 timeline is Cornette and Prichard... cannot wait for that

[@feckyoo2]

Drink every time you hear "in our business " 🤣

[@archstanton4365]

I've still got "the electricity" running through me too!

[@samiam7342]

one thing - bobby heenan got andre over as a heel, not Andre.........andre barely said 10 words during the whole angle.....

[@MrFoxxx47]

Kinda wish this wouldn't jump back and forth between the videos. I personally would've preferred to see them separately but that's just me.

[@Bale4Bond]

It's not just you. It's a baffling decision that makes you feel nauseated.

[@anthonycummins9558]

Im with you there - I would have been content with Honky Tonk's alone as he is more entertaining - plus got into wrestling in 87 and only saw WWF - could'int relate to NWA.

[@birdmantd]

Just like porn. Plenty of clips to watch for free but if you want to watch the full thing as intended you gots to pay some money.

[@KCVault]

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[@MB-oc1nw]

WWF vs JCP was like a second Civil War...Dixie vs Yankees and the outcome was similar

[@JohnDoe-ym5ly]

I'm a northerner from Michigan and I prefer WCW to WWF at that time because they had better wrestling. At the same time WWF was really entertaining and fresh, but I viewed it as more for kids than WCW (until WCW became cartoonish too).

[@Jayce_Alexander]

Except the wrong side won this time. Looking back at the post-1985 WWF stuff it's hard to imagine adults enjoyed this stuff at the time. It's so obviously made for children. The 80s JCP stuff looks very much like an 80s product in terms of production values, but at least it didn't feel like a kids television show until Jim Herd took over.

[@jamesheath7507]

Wow you're so clever .. did it take you all day to think of that one..

[@ChrisHopkinsBass]

Wow - that's a young Sean on that WWF 1987 video

[@BGRPiccu]

I agree, Tully was the heel of the group, especially after Ole left. Arn and Flair were heels, but they were the kind of heels you'd like to party with. Tully was the kind of heel you knew you had to keep an eye on if you partied with him. You might wake up with something drawn on your face.

[@donaldpainter956]

He is trying to get Tully Blanchard to say stuff to throw people under the bus but Tully isn't having any part of it

[@anthonycummins9558]

Looking at this format now - it makes sense - have the time lines of the 2 companies coincide to get the reaction of each interviewee in the event of a scandal or wrestler defecting from one company to another - also PPV's being opposite each other - I.e Starrcade 87, being opposed by Survivor Series 87 in the promotional wars.

[@fredantoun1683]

I’m from Australia. How u could leave Larry out is beyond me

[@travelreview5962]

Tully is like the healthiest looking wrestler of his age that i think ive ever seen lol

[@ajjjay9583]

Thank you for your content

[@johnselwitz5362]

I always thought Honky Tonk Man was a great interview but I’ve never seen this one. What a treat this is

[@jonnya4209]

The respective interviews fittingly represent the differences between WCW/NWA and WWF. The same thing presented so differently.

[@brycemcneil4404]

3:27:14 This portion here is so illuminating about the value of Honky in the 1987. The WWF had two successive "cool heels" (first Jake, then Savage) who the fans were dying to cheer. The booker(s) found a way to quickly get each over to the face side: Find the one heel who such an "uncool" heel, his whole heeldom emanated from how he couldn't get over as a face. Honky wasn't just a great heel in 1987-- he was a 'corny' (in a good way) heel who helped cool heels finished their walk over the bridge to facedom.

[@mikeplumer7687]

Jim Cornette said it best . .people in the business understand guys that look like Luger, Goldberg, Batista, Road Warriors,you have to mega push them right away because they cant really talk or wrestle they can only draw money by being unbeatable in the ring

[@donjohnson1498]

Yes, that is why the lifeblood of the business was with the the guys in the 5”11 to 6’2 range, guys like Race, Funk. Michaels, Flair, Steamboat, Brisco, Savage, Backlund, Blanchard, and Hart. Those guys tore it up when they worked with each other, “and” they elevated the big men.

[@mikefrye1905]

Mr Blanchard what are your memories of road warriors and rock and roll express?

[@primetime8833]

I love hearing the Crockett guys talk about Sabatino's. It is indeed a fabulous restaurant.

[@KayFabe87]

I wonder of this is the interview Sean talks about in his book where someone on the staff had to go on a treasure hunt for HTM in order to attempt to procure some obscure liquor that may have been discontinued that HTM wanted.

[@edwardfarnsworth5915]

At 31:20, they talk about the "Gatorade."

[@donaldpainter956]

What made me angry was the I quit match wasn't even supposed to happen because the match before was Magnums last chance for the U S title Jim Crockett said that then a couple weeks later they announced it would be an I quit match just trying to force the fans to like Magnum

[@battlestarmarc]

Honky's Elvis gimmick was awesome. Tully was a cool heel. The nwa should have paid Tully and Arn to stay in 1988. 80's WWF exploded.

[@salar7735]

Honky Tonk Man's Pedro Morales impression is hilarious

[@jimbrown5091]

Laurinburg is in southern NC "between" Lumberton and Charlotte.

[@reynaldoreyes9927]

David Sammartino WWF return 7/2/87- 10/10/87( debut with blond hair & with muscles) David WWF return since 4/ 1986- 7/10/86

[@nichhodge8503]

2:00:53 I’ve had several 240V electric shocks (our domestic voltage in England is 240V where as America is 110V)and was fine straight after and once when working on a 3 phase electrical system which is 415V (used in commercial and industrial buildings) I asked my employee if he had turned the electric off and he said yes but he hadn’t so I got a 415V electric shock and was fine after. Now while getting the 415V shock my did “flutter” (only way to describe it) as I felt my heart beat extremely fast and out of sync and it felt strange and yes my fingers hurt too as the current went through one hand up my arm across my chest down my other arm and out my other fingers (electricity will always take the shortest route). But I didn’t have electricity going through my body days later and for Piper to say that makes him look like an idiot as that’s not how electricity works

[@andvari7]

It was Piper being Piper. He was also preparing for his role in Hell Comes To Frogtown. Cocaine’s a helluva drug.

[@dussdamuss]

Had to look up outback Jack. I vaguely remember him. I mean I'm sure I had those cards! Bushwackers were over though!

[@ThoughtPolice007]

I refuse to watch this ever again, even with HTM being so awesome because it just doesn’t have enough commercials. Maybe if Sean could just add like 60 more it would be so much more entertaining.

[@Bale4Bond]

Honky Tonk, in my opinion, is a better shoot-guest than Cornette. Rarely repeats himself, leaves real-world politics out of the equation and is also funnier with his anecdotes. His venom also feels a lot more earnest and well delivered. Cornette still has wrestling's greatest podcast, though.

[@JohnDoe-ym5ly]

I'd put him as equal to Cornette shoots depending on one's mood. Cornette has an encyclopedic knowledge of deep wrestling history, the kind only a true fanatic could have. Honky is hilarious, often unintentionally, and he has a great memory for his career and has a perspective as a journeyman worker that Cornette doesn't. The nice thing is that Cornette is an authority of Crockett/WCW in the late 80s and Honky is for WWF, and both have worked all over the place before and since but rarely the same place.

[@rockybalboa1847]

Sometimes you wonder though ... is he blowing smoke up our asses ... Honky tends too take himself a little too seriously..

[@Jewish.Redneck.Hybrid]

Commie Cornette is an Idiot Savant. He is Pro Wrestling's Rain Man.

[@MiningForPies]

@@rockybalboa1847he doesn’t take him self seriously, but he’s always working

[@DJWreckAlot]

Only here for honky ❤

[@MABMGuitar]

I’m surprised by how sober Honky appears in this shoot - for the first 3 minutes anyway. Let’s see what happens as it progresses.

[@thehellobandwiscthehelloba7655]

ok.. had zero clue of this one... ty sean =)

[@joeyjoejoe1394]

Has Sean ever gotten an answer when asking how American and Japanese wrestlers communicate with each other in the ring

[@gary6754]

87 was a tough time to be a total mark for the Babyfaces but not a Hulkamania fan

[@johnfalcetta5431]

Honky-tonk man gives absolutely zero fucks

[@donjohnson1498]

Honky is entertaining, and was an underrated heel. I have to laugh, though, at the criticism of Blanchard as boring. There are plenty of wrestlers willing to tell/ embellish locker room stories. Blanchard was cerebral in the ring, and he relates his experiences on that level. His elusiveness about blading “is” hilarious.

[@Koexistence13]

1:15:40 Tully reveals his preference

[@Spooky_515]

Really wish they wouldn’t throw two shoots together. Makes the video to long to watch

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[@allenm.355]

Dang he still looks like Lucy from Charlie Brown

[@greghughes6098]

Crockett or NWA would have been way more appropriate for Tully Blanchard. WCW wasn't a thing in 1987. That seems like a simple fact that anyone with any basic wrestling knowledge should be aware of.

[@R.Roma3]

Great vid, needs more ads though

[@KCVault]

Thanks. We'll add more

[@R.Roma3]

@@KCVault Dammit I'm only halfway through the video. That comment backfired on me.

[@MiningForPies]

I don’t get any, because I’m not a cheap bastard

[@s.salazar6364]

2:08:27 Urgh Lombardi's mask 🤣.......

[@karlepaul6632]

Sean is such a low talker... sometimes I gotta rewind and turn up the volume to hear what he said

[@joespitler3929]

2 of the best heels of the 1980s

[@reynaldoreyes9927]

2:39 Jan.11,1987 WWF was Nashville, TN: Municipal Auditorium:& jan.12 in Louisville, KY : Louisville Gardens Early morning 1/12/87.that why Honky Tonk Man with Jimmy Hart did vignettes at Graceland , heartbreak hotel,the Elvis Presley museum and WWF magazine photos at locations.

[@mrsquishyboots]

average individual income of 1987 was 14k

[@dachronicalalittlebitofeve6630]

Imagine having “friends” like HTM, can you have a word with the boss and get me a contract…. Will do get me on the big show, borrow me 100k…..😂😂😂 What do you mean they said no?!, some freind you are…..

[@jeremiahallen2393]

Honkys hair 😂😂😂

[@gary_stavropoulos]

No Honky the glass doesn’t conduct electricity. The reason lightbulbs don’t work when the glass is broken is the filament usually breaks then also. If it doesn’t break you can get shocked, but it probably didn’t happen.

[@nichhodge8503]

Also if glass conducted electricity you could get an electric shock from the light bulb which no company would sell because of all the law suits it would get from people who’ve had an electric shock from touching the light bulb when it was on!!! Light bulb work two ways one has a tungsten filament which an electric current is put through and we get light from it heated filament that’s why they use tungsten as it has the highest melting/boiling point of all metals. Number two an electric current is put through a bulb which is full of a gas like neon, xenon or argon etc and the electrical current makes the gas glow giving us light and if glass did conduct electricity the gas bulbs would be especially dangerous. And there’s LEDs but they’re different to the previous two

[@gregtanney2023]

I'm an electrician, I call bullshit on the lightbulb story as well... Js lol

[@nichhodge8503]

@@gregtanney2023 I’m not an electrician, my dad is by trade (he’s a high manager now of the National Grid) but I’m a refrigeration engineer and I have to have a knowledge of electricity because it’s part of my job. Legally there are some things I cannot do on a commercial or industrial site which an electrician is the only person who can do it. (I could those bits but if there was an electrical accident my liability insurance wouldn’t cover me so I tell the customer to get an electrician in but I do get some who say “if you know how to do the work why don’t you just do it?” as they don’t want to pay for an electrician as well)

[@ericjackson7632]

Honky was right. Brutus vs. HTM in a hair vs. Hair match would've been money.

[@jamesarmstrong857]

That fart sound effect on the HTM one,,,,,there has to be a story there.

[@nichhodge8503]

Tully is so bland and boring compared to the Honkey Tonk Man

[@reynaldoreyes9927]

Jim Barnett (WWF office guy) attempts suicide 5/24/87.Jim . Barnett died 9/18/2004 age 80

[@MiningForPies]

Did he jump from a ridiculously high building or something?

[@KHLB516]

Tully really boring and hard to listen to here

[@coryjacobs3253]

That’s bullshit when you see people have matches at wrestlemania and you see opponents hanging out. Just takes me out of the event

[@georgeelmerdenbrough6906]

Cocaine is a helluva drug ...

[@jonnyfair8599]

Is that Honky Tonk Man or Cousin Eddie from Christmas Vacation ?

[@markl5998]

Can you reupload this with just HTM

[@s.salazar6364]

2:49:18 🤣🤣 Roberts

[@s.salazar6364]

2:03:24 😂 electric

[@daveschannel747]

Did Honky Tonk Man get Eddie Gilbert Jr wrong? His dad was Tommy Gilbert... just wondering

[@Rjensen2]

Eddie's real name is Tommy Jr. Eddie's his middle name.

[@s.salazar6364]

3:39:46 🙏🏼

[@bradpeterson7957]

👍👍

[@brucemichaelgrossman4913]

Sean used to be insufferable when it came to getting these guys to bury others and talk dirt.

[@warshipsatin8764]

i had heard stories from other guys about tully being an arrogant asshole but he doesnt come off that way at least here

[@fjccommish]

My own life is so much more interesting than this is.

[@reynaldoreyes9927]

Honky Tonk Man see Dingo Warrior (ultimate warrior) for first time WWF Tuesday, 5/12/87 Anaheim, CA: Anaheim convention center: WWF Superstars of Wrestling TV taping #13 Dingo Warrior wasn't be booked by wccw Booker Bruiser Brody & fritz. Von Erich (wccw owner/ promoter) warrior meets with Vince McMahon first time ever , warrior( warrior is wccw Texas hw Champion') return to wccw, then 6/8/87quit wccw joined WWF house show 6/17/B7 WWF Wichita falls Texas: memorial Auditorium Dingo Warrior defeated Steve Lombardi

[@harveymcelroy9332]

HTM be dry snitching😅😅

[@s.salazar6364]

2:03:24 ElectroPiper

[@PremierTraveler]

Tully’s interview was a complete waste of time, he gave nothing to Sean.

[@samiam7342]

the honky tonk timeline was great............the tully timeline was horrendous due to tully being a straight up a**hole........

[@s.salazar6364]

1:03:05 Blanchard 🤣🤣

[@s.salazar6364]

2:10:00 Hogan 😂

[@s.salazar6364]

1:59:52 🤣🤣

[@DavysFlicks]

Tully was pathetic. Sure, protect parts of the business but don't act like you have no idea about major news and angles, what major talents had heat etc. Sean - you were ripped off.

[@davidfraser6950]

Tully's laugh is so fake.

[@JohnDoe-ym5ly]

You spend 40 years around Ric Flair.

[@davidfraser6950]

@@JohnDoe-ym5ly wouldn't last 40 seconds with him.Horrible man.

[@320jer]

No one cares about snoop dog in s

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

51:20. Well Pat was gay, Vince is bi, so maybe they were having fun decorating up the sissy boy, something that they couldn't do normally while in their closets.

[@Rjensen2]

As if Pat was ever "in the closet". 😂

[@cutekanjii]

This guys almost as boring as his gimmick (if he even had one in his wrestling career). Total wrong choice for an interview on 1987. It's obviously going to be hard to follow the HTM as he is possibly THE best shoot interview speakers there is and i think was the original shoot interview for Kayfabe Commentaries. Granted there are probably worse out there to do a shoot on 1987 so maybe there wasn't really anyone else available. He's not the worst but just not able to compete with Honkey, he doesn't seem to get the concept that its talking about the year as a whole bit by bit from an outside looking in aswell as an inside looking out point of view, not just about HIM in his career alone. And he just laughs rather than comments on the issue like he'd rather not say anything or open up on it...well don't do the shoot interview then!.....

[@jonbaird8835]

If Tully was a fish he would have stolen the worm off the hook 19 times and Sean would be dumb enough to try to bait him again. Way to work Tully 👍 bury nobody.

[@maksteel5593]

Tully knows nothing if nwa was out drawing wwf than they be in buisness

[@jamie.777]

🐏 🐐 IC champ

[@jrjr11rrsgjk]

Should give up the side burns and the duck tail

[@s.salazar6364]

1:59:50 🤣