Kdenlive Is My New Old Video Editor Of Choice

I've jumped around between a bunch of Linux video editors and even though some of them have there interesting quirks I've some circled back around to Kdenlive
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[@thingsiplay]

Wow I didn't know you can just drag from video or audio icon to get that portion only! I need this constantly. Thanks for the tip, this is very useful.

[@nanopone]

9:21 it is an option, it's just off by default to prevent people that don't know what they're doing from ruining their images by changing the aspect ratio. click "distort" :)

[@BrodieRobertson]

Oh I didn't even notice, I didn't even know what to search for

[@Wyrmixx]

THANK YOU! I didn't know this option exists before

[@CobaltSpace]

I remember that the one thing that made shotcut an issue for you was that they didn't have markers. It has markers now, and it has an option to export them as chapters so you don't even need to extract them from the xml. It also has a keybinds for inserting tracks, so while not automatic, it shouldn't be too difficult.

[@mrmalio]

I love Shotcut the only thing that would make me move from it is Resolve

[@1DjFuzzion1]

Love your content! One thing I would suggest is that you equalize your voice, your microphone picks up way too much of the high end frequencies. It often makes my headphones, speakers, etc. distortion a little. Especially the 'e' sound.

[@mrsansiverius2083]

It has already been a year??? Wow

[@supremesonicbrazil]

I'd say after I decided to tackle Kdenlive the rawest way I know (that is making KZbin Poops with it - if I can make a decent one without too much of a struggle then it's good enough for me), it's meeting 90% of what I expected from a Sony Vegas alternative (even though it seems to have more of a Premiere workflow), though I do have some minor annoyances with it. I've been having those issues for a few years now, though now I decided to actually note them down this time so I can properly complain about them. Things like Rotoscope sometimes getting squished after Transform is applied; Freeze fucking up the source's aspect ratio and the only way to "fix" it is restarting Kdenlive; Transform not having a custom anchor point for rotation (in the sense that you can only choose center or top left, whereas I could drag it anywhere on Vegas); audio has a chance to sound like a glitchy vomit when reversed, stretched or very briefly at immediate playback start/scrubbing/fade in/fade out (also the effect is stronger on formats like MP3 and "weaker but with some clipping" on formats like OGG/WAV) - which fucks me up when I want to make something more timing-sensitive like a mashup, so I resort to REAPER since it's literally Vegas but just the audio part; only 3 types of keyframes (Linear, Smooth and Hold) where I used to use Ease In/Out a *lot* on Vegas (worse, there's an issue on Kdenlive's repo addressing that and it's been left there dead with no activity for over 2 years); no support for OpenFX effects (remember Vegas' Swirl/Spherize/etc.? I certainly do, and I can't fathom how even Resolve has them but Kdenlive doesn't, given it's an *open* industry standard); GPU acceleration still being an "experimental" feature that actually crashes Kdenlive and forces me to reset all of my configs so it's literally unusable for me (at least on both AppImage and Flatpak); among other minor hiccups that may or may not have weird workarounds. Buuuuuuut... hey at least it works on FOSS AMD drivers and lets me edit MP4 files on the timeline for free! Ya hear that Resolve? You should take notes that have more substance than "b-b-but Hollywood professionals don't use those things"!

[@breadpirateroberts4946]

Olive looks like its going to be a promising alternative. They have an old version that is mostly stable but has a messy codebase, and a new rewritten version that uses node editing but its still in alpha at the moment. I've donated to them because I really wanna see it become viable

[@supremesonicbrazil]

@@breadpirateroberts4946 I played around with both versions for a bit (even though I know near zero stuff about node editing) and yeah it has a lot of potential. Butter smooth playback, Vegas-like effects and stuff I wished Kdenlive had, but it's hard to do because they use MLT which is a pretty crusty old lib by today's standards (or so is what I understood from watching one of unfa's videos on the matter), while Olive uses something else which has more performance on modern hardware. Either way looking forward to both.

[@buriedstpatrick2294]

I really like REAPER's (yes you can use it as a video editor) way of dealing with clip lengths. If you make them longer than the actual length of the clip itself it'll just loop. It'll still show a marker that it's looping because most likely you'll rarely use this feature for video. But for small watermark graphics and the like, that stuff's really useful.

[@vilijanac]

I use only kdenlive, it has so much changed. That I have to relearn how transitions and effects are done. Before it was you use tracks and corners of the clips. I am running it via an app image without installing. That is good. If a new version crashes, can restart by using the previous.

[@anon_y_mousse]

Definitely one of the best things about AppImages.

[@samsungtablet6948]

Kdenlive + snap is a disaster combo. I have lost many projects when kdenlive was just auto updated by snap. I stopped using Ubuntu for insisting that everything be installed by snap.

[@n.m4497]

Switch to Fedora or Mint.

[@Your_Degenerate]

Ah I wasn't aware I could get just the video by clicking the little icon, I'll be able to use that for sure. I did run into an odd behavior of Kdenlive recently regarding file names. If the file has emoji code in it like a KZbin video title, once you save the project file it will forget the file location when reopened. It drove me crazy till I figured it was the file name and I just needed to rename the files.

[@JandonGames]

Olive 0.2 July 2022 version is getting closer to Premiere Pro. I love it.

[@BrodieRobertson]

I might need to give it a look again

[@thenextpoetician6328]

I'm waiting for Flowblade's latest issue to get resolved which keeps it from loading. I hadn't tried it. Hadn't heard of it in fact.

[@Nullifer]

Have you figured out how to do sidechain compression for audio?

[@danielkrajnik3817]

I miss better title/text editing functions. In the current UI you can't even copy/paste them. There is Natron though, an open-source alternative to Foundry's Nuke

[@elmariachi5133]

From 0:10 to 0:32 you are describing my general Linux experience for more than ten years, now ..

[@ThatLinuxDude]

6:38 beautiful

[@anon_y_mousse]

Happen to know where that image is from?

[@ransan]

@@anon_y_mousse that is art he commissioned, it is based on his character in Final Fantasy 14.

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@ransan Thanks. Guess that means I can't get a copy then. Oh well.

[@JAAHUNGHAAM]

Ok, I rendered a project of 60fps. But it's saved at about, 30fps or so. How do I save (render) my file with same framerate?

[@tomontheinternet]

I just wish there was a way to apply an effect to many clips at once. That's always been my biggest pain point.

[@alec7987]

There is. You select the clips that you want the effect to be on, select the effect, and then hit enter. I have done it too many times on accident.

[@tomontheinternet]

@@alec7987 Actually? If this is true, that's huge. Thank you Alec

[@samsungtablet6948]

You can apply effect on the entire timeline by dropping the effect on left most side of the timeline, that is the box where you would create a new timeline.

[@emberripples]

🥺 Why does my preview window have 5fps frame rate once I'm over half way toward completion of my video project?

[@MsDuketown]

I prefer integral streaming above editing. That's why there is no room for Kdenlive on the 5th Wave Linux Desktop; it's occupied by Krita. There are some Linux OS'es with a sane educational suite of scientific apps..

[@ThatMfTaika]

I had one hell of a bug with KdenLive, and it didn't solve itself until it updated. Basically I'd drag an initial clip into the project and it would ask if it wanted to change the project size, which I would say yes, and then it would crash. Which it would only do once for that particular resolution. Very odd. Very annoying if you're just making small edits to memes or just making shitposts. It solved itself some time ago with an update, but everytime I see that dialog for changing project size, I still get a little concerned.

[@Livakivi]

I recently made a video where I tried out DaVinci Resolve, after been using Sony Vegas for over a decade, and occasionally After Effects. The reason I tried making the switch was because Sony Vegas was limiting in terms of what it can do, and working with AE + Sony Vegas wasn't very well compatible. Tl;dw I had many issues with Resolve, from technical to UX, but decided to keep giving it a try and still make a video with it. But I only used Resolve for 1 minute of the video I made after that, and decided that Resolve was unusable to me due to a specific bug that hasn't been fixed for over 4 years, so I switched to (an extended trial of) Premiere + AE, which, aside from a few issues, has been really good so far. However, despite being able to use Premiere, AE and Photoshop for free (through the "extended trial"), and despite them being 100% good enough for me, in the style of my preferred workflow, I'm still not entirely satisfied with that solution. The thing about Davinci Resolve that attracted it to me was its free version and lifetime purchase options, whilst being able to actually put up a match against Adobe, whilst also being Linux compatible. Despite me not daily driving Linux, settling on Adobe software kind of means that I will never be able to either, because Adobe software isn't supporter on Linux, which means I can't do video editing on Linux either. I haven't really used Linux for years asides from WSL and servers, but recently I've been kind of wanting to try daily driving it again, for that I need to be able to edit videos on Linux to nearly the same extent that I can on Windows. DaVinci Resolve is supported on Linux, but I hear it has some issues, and some codecs are missing unless you have the premium version, so I started looking into other Linux based video editors, such as Kdenlive and Olive. While they seem good enough for a lot of simpler editing, from what I understand, they have serious stability and in some cases usability issues, whilst obviously not being as powerful as Adobe software, etc. I know Resolve isn't FOSS, but compared to the alternatives, its literally going to be my only choice if I want to do professional, heavy editing on Linux, so I'm very grateful they support Linux at all. I know I can work around the issue (extremely inefficiently) which makes Resolve unusable for me, but like I said, won't have another choice if I want to try daily driving Linux and do all my work + enjoy my hobbies there. I very much understand the catch22 issue Linux has about not being popular enough making it hard to gain more popularity, so If I'll ever take on the challenge to try daily driving Linux, I'll do my best effort to make a video series out of it as well. As the last note, at 2:53, I appreciate Kdenlive going the Sony Vegas route and letting the user click on the god damn timeline to move the playhead, not on the upper time scrubber. The same goes for not separating the audio and video layers into 2 rows that you have to scroll separately. Both features are just objectively better and more efficient, I don't care what the people with 30k post count in Adobe or Blackmagic forums say about it being an unnecessary feature. Kdenlive seems to be really really similar to Sony Vegas, which I'm really comfortable and familiar with, so It honestly kind of makes me want to try it out lol.

[@HD_6350]

The first time I used kdenlive was 2 years ago, where I just needed a program to cut a video, and I had no experience about video editing. Later I figured out how to use it for cooler things (making fancy memes), and since then I've always used it, even if there are many annoying bugs

[@okamiboi]

Off-topic question for reader Brodie if he reads it. Kson on VShojo pog?

[@BrodieRobertson]

I heard some new members were joining, wouldn't have expected kson

[@okamiboi]

@@BrodieRobertson Supposedly they got Rushia's VA for a new character, but it's supposed to start the Japanese branch

[@ransan]

Poaching top superchat earners lets go!

[@MoreChannelNoise]

I just use Blender, people don't know it's video editing part is realy good and I find it the most stable

[@nevoyu]

Olive is good, but damn it's been too long since we had an update. Honestly it's either shortcut or kdenlive for me

[@WildVoltorb]

Good thing about olive is the gpu acceleration. Editing with cpu is just too slow. Too bad olive 2 seems to be abandoned

[@crausbeat]

What about blender video editing comparing to kdenlive?

[@robertcoyle9071]

Tried it twice. Wouldn't stay running.

[@t.j.minepinesouthwick493]

I liked the features of kdenlive, but it was extremely unstable for me

[@NoMastersNoMistress]

Flowblade has improved radically, FWIW, and the interface is still much better. GTK > Qt

[@SkyFly19853]

So, did you decide to make this video after LinuxCast's video on KdenLive's Bug Hell?... 😏

[@BrodieRobertson]

I didn't see that one

[@SkyFly19853]

@@BrodieRobertson If so, you better check it out...

[@eyssewieringa2084]

what's wrong with shotcut?

[@eyssewieringa2084]

nevermind just saw the vid

[@paimonbutter]

why not use davinci resolve? I guess because it's not open source, but any other reasons aside from that to not use it?

[@ISCARI0T]

doesnt work on all hardware. i never could make it manage to work on my main pc (arch)

[@mckendrick7672]

you have to pay for certain features - resolutions above 1080p being one of them if i recall correctly

[@BrodieRobertson]

I've never had luck actually getting it installed and working

[@mckendrick7672]

@@BrodieRobertson They only officially support CentOS, every other distro is hit or miss.

[@gettriggered_ian3269]

I swear I've seen almost all of the linux youtubers that use kdenlive complain about instability or lack of features or poor feature implementation.

[@krozareq]

And a reminder, 3440x1440 is 43:18 aspect ratio, not 21:9. Technically it's 21.5:9

[@BrodieRobertson]

21:9 is the term that has been settled on even if not correct, it's much like HD and Full HD

[@krozareq]

@@BrodieRobertson Just commenting my experience with video editors because they do care about precise aspect ratios. Most of my comments are for the algo than anything else. But hell, you're one of the few content creators that reply :D

[@ribosomerocker]

bring. back. the. video. editor. series