Kearney & Trecker Model 2H Vertical Head Attachment

[@Pete4875]

Once guys like you are gone these machines will be history. I think you be a lot happier when you take it apart and clean and grease it.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Pete4875 There are a few guys following along in our footsteps who will hopefully keep them alive after we are gone!

[@6NBERLS]

What a wonderful world when electronic media give you a lead to a part to put such a glorious old machine back into operation!

[@joetiller1031]

The old machine's and old machinist are the best, glad you got the attachment running.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Joe Tiller Thanks - glad to finally have that missing part!

[@roberthorner8494]

KEITH, I THINK YOU HAVE A VERY USEFUL ATTACHMENT. DON'T BE TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE. YOU SEEM TO BE AS HAPPY AS A PIG IN POOP. GREAT VIDEO, THANKS KEITH.

[@VintageMachinery]

+ROBERT HORNER I will probably pull it apart to be on the safe side.

[@shade38211]

Just as some feedback, these back stories really make your videos enjoyable. Not sure if u and your buddies talk about how 2 make the best vids, but ones like this seem so enjoyable. Almost like reading a good book. Backstory, filler, buildup, setup, fall, recover, climax and happily ever after.

[@VintageMachinery]

+shade38211 Well, I wish that I could say that I plan the plots on these videos ahead of time but the truth is they just come out however they come out. I also find it funny that so many of you comment as to how much you like hearing the back stories and others tell me to just shut up and get the video done! You can't make everybody happy, so I am going to do the videos the way I want to!

[@jimmyboles3409]

Yes I finally got a 2HL plain K&T without the head or gear and no draw bar , it’s going to be really handy ! Thank for the video Keith

[@burrowbuddy3596]

I have a 2CH that came with a universal head and like yours, no gear. I believe my head is quite rare, it is adjustable in both axis and also has a quill, so you can drill a hole at a compound angle. I looked a number of years to find the correct gear, My mill drives the head at a higher speed than the horizontal 50 taper, and has a separate speed chart for the vertical head. Mine had some gear noise that I was able to minimize by shimming the head out---Love those Kearney & Trecker mills they are rock solid

[@CompEdgeX2013]

I agree with you on the usefulness of a horizontal mill in a smaller job shop and hope to get one for myself at some point. That clunk which was directly proportional to speed gets me concered about the head. Time for a teardown/inspect session!! :-) Colin

[@VintageMachinery]

+CompEdgeX Yep, it will get torn down before I try and use it again.

[@davidmotoman4956]

Mills are the Greatest things ever. And this Addition will surely be Used for many a creative Project. Regards Dave from Australia

[@VintageMachinery]

+David Fullston Thanks Dave!

[@ronicard]

Congrats on the find, Keith! Looking forward to seeing the insides of that universal head when you eventually get to the project of disassembling/restoring it. I always find it fascinating to see the engineering behind these awesome machines

[@VintageMachinery]

+Ron Icard I am kind of looking forward to tearing into it myself. Waiting to get my home shop built as I want to be able to do the work there rather than at the museum so parts won't walk off...

[@daviddooley2397]

Old k and t will last for ever when taken care. You are doing a good job

[@sugarandcream1]

Keith:I know how it feels to wait to use a piece of equipment. You have a GOOD Friend and if he needs it he knows where to find it. The gear was a GREAT find. I hear your excitement. Excellent video. Keep them coming I never stop learning.

[@VintageMachinery]

+sugarandcream1 Thanks!

[@lewiemcneely9143]

I worked out of a Millwright shop and watched things going on inside like a big eyed boy in a candy store but understand very little about the actual workings of it but that doesn't keep me from enjoying every bit of it! Glad you got the gear! Now we can see how it works!

[@VintageMachinery]

+Lewie McNeely I am glad to have it as well - now I can't wait to put it to work!

[@lewiemcneely9143]

I'll be waiting!!!

[@gr7485]

Just have to make a comment on how much I enjoy watching these videos. I've never done any kind of machining or any kind of metal work for that matter but yet I find your work very interesting. Thank you for sharing your skills and making the time to create these videos for all us to see. God bless.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Geoge Reed Thank you for watching - I am glad that you are enjoying them!

[@ramsay19481]

You were fortunate to find the proper drive gear for your vertical head.. I have the same head on a 2hl universal for which I had to machine a drive gear....The problem I had was that the driven and drive gears are different sizes.. I bought the head several years ago with no drive gear and had to figure out what size the drive gear had to be made, which cutter to use, what lead to use, (good thing I have a model h dividing head and a low lead attachment with all the drive gears) etc....The head is up and running now and is a nice addition to the universal head and slotting attachment I have for my 2hl... Cheers! Mike in Louisiana

[@VintageMachinery]

I got very lucky.....

[@deadfreightwest5956]

Those old K&Ts were so solid and smooth. A series-II Bridgeport was a rattle-box by comparison. It's amazing the number of attachments available for these, the capabilities of the machine. Give me a K&T knee mill and a Hendey lathe, and I'll be in heaven.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Dead Frt West Yep, a K&T and Hendey would make a good combo!

[@shadowfox929]

Congratulations on the gear purchase Keith. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while. Have fun with that attachment.

[@VintageMachinery]

+David Calabretta Thanks!

[@mk2cnc98]

Glad to see you the vertical attachment running. And you are correct that they are being broken up for scrap. but with scrap price down maybe a few more will survive to get restored and used.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Mk2CNC Hopefully so....

[@lazaglider]

I love this channel. Interesting, informative and really really civilised. Keith, thank you. You are a gent.

[@VintageMachinery]

+lazaglider Thank you - I am having a ball sharing what I do in the shop!

[@GreatNorthWoodsHillbilly]

Glad you got a gear for it, really makes that mill something to have. I am surprised you didn't make a gear for it years ago. To bad that so many people scrap this old equipment instead of selling it to somebody who would use it. I look forward to seeing you use it to make a part.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Great North Woods Hillbilly Being that it is a helical gear, it is a lot more complicated to make than a regular spur gear. My mill really is not set up to do that kind of work but I could probably rig it up to cut the spiral cut.

[@GreatNorthWoodsHillbilly]

I can understand that, I thought about after I posted the comment that it wasn't a straight cut gear.

[@kentbridges5060]

Keith: Great buy! I had to make one for a #5 KT once, it was a lot more work than $200.00. Don't forget to grease the drive gear when you put it on, that may be some of the noise, also check for proper gear clearance when it is on the overarms that could cause noise also. I agree with you, I would clean the inside of the head, people let these things set and the grease gets old and dried out. Love your videos, keep up the good work!

[@VintageMachinery]

+Kent Bridges Looking forward to tearing into it and giving it a good once over!

[@charliewood4158]

Got to love the old machines I ran them old machines for 30 plus years I am done now but I miss it some days

[@VintageMachinery]

+Charlie Wood I know what you mean - you should get you a mill and lathe to play with at home!

[@charliewood4158]

+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org My new hobby is fixing up my 1870s farm house woodworking wow a whole new ballgame lol Some day I will get back into machining Soon I hope

[@PeterWMeek]

+Charlie Wood - Yeah; I have found (to my shame and sorrow) that having too many hobbies means that you never get really good at any of them. I've been shedding hobbies (and their associated equipment and magazine subscriptions) over the past several years. Hoping to spend more time in the metal shop in the future.

[@Landie10]

Hi Keith I have just watched the K&T head attachment and noticed two pins sticking out from the head where it mounts on the overhead supports which did not appear to be out very far thus not pushing the pins in and wondered if the two pins were locking pins causing the noise. Pls keep up the good work I have not used a lathe in 25 years but still work in the motor industry and find your channel very informative thanks for all your time you put in I am an avid fan for a year or more, I have seen all your videos at least three times Ian Rayson from the UK

[@VintageMachinery]

I don't think that was the issue - I think the head just needs to be gone through, cleaned up, and probably some new bearings.

[@millomweb]

I think I'll agree with you Keith - a universal horizontal mill is a great bit of kit !

[@garyc5483]

Glad to see you have all the capabilities of the K&T to hand now Keith. regards from the UK

[@VintageMachinery]

+Gary C Well, there are still a few attachments and accessories that I would like to fine. Like the "jumping jack" (shaper head) and a lead attachment so that I can actually make helical gears....

[@VintageMachinery]

+Gary C Well, there are still a few attachments and accessories that I would like to fine. Like the "jumping jack" (shaper head) and a lead attachment so that I can actually make helical gears....

[@garyc5483]

+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Keith, I did not realise there were so many attachments available. Good luck on finding them.

[@swarfrat311]

Keith, If that head hasn't been used in 3 years, the grease is probably like dry mud. By loading it up with fresh grease and running in on small jobs (no major hogging), perhaps the grease will work into the bearings and gears and it will quiet down. It does sound like dry gears and/or dry bearings. Glad to see you got the gear! A worthwhile investment, indeed! Thanks for the video! Now, you are going to have to get some large shell mills, fly cutters, etc. and hog 375 thou per pass! Thanks again for sharing! Have a good one! BTW . . . how's the shop coming? Dave

[@jusb1066]

+Swarf Rat not been used in 3 , and probably not greased in 30! yeah its earned a strip down, but i dont think we shall see that for a long while.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Swarf Rat When I get the new shop built, I am planning on tearing into this head and giving it some TLC!

[@1musicsearcher]

Wow, what a great eye to pick that out of a "flea- bay" listing. Let's see the tear down and what that noise is. Great video.

[@VintageMachinery]

+1musicsearcher I have to give Neil credit for finding it - I just got lucky and was pointed in the right direction!

[@jeffreypfeifer862]

Glad you acquired the missing drive gear Keith! I've seen these on and off... but didn't know you were needing one!

[@VintageMachinery]

+Jeffrey Pfeifer I am just glad to find one!

[@JeffHeathTheVintageWorkshop]

Great video Keith. Thanks for posting. I just finished rebuilding the v-head on my 2K. It was worse than yours....completely seized. There's a lubrication manual on the VM site, and most of these heads do not take grease....they take oil. Mine is a universal high speed head, and turns in both directions, as you indicated in the video, for milling in just about any angle imaginable.. I just finally got it all back together yesterday, and oiled it up, and it runs as quiet as a mouse now. You'll be very happy once you pull it apart and clean it. Glad you found the seemingly unobtainium drive gear. We both know someone who has been looking for one of those for quite some time.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Jeff Heath I am actually looking forward to tearing into it - it should be fun! I got lucky on the drive gear - real lucky....

[@morelenmir]

Certainly did enjoy that Keith! A fascinating add-on there, I really look forward to you using it in action!

[@VintageMachinery]

+morelenmir As am I!

[@wvrockcrusher]

Nice addition to the K&T Keith! Really like that little mill. Shop update anytime now...... Great video as always and keep up the great work Keith! Jamie

[@VintageMachinery]

+wvrockcrusher Shop updated coming soon - probably on Monday. We finally got some more work done it on this week after some delays in getting the windows in among other things.

[@AtelierDBurgoyne]

Hi Keith, this gear and its holder are a really interesting find. Keith Fenner has a very good video about how he got the missing gear custom made for his K&T. He also shows installation and removal of the universal head on his mill. One observation I would make based on my own universal milling head (Modern 2LU) is that the clearance between the two gears is critical for smooth running at high RPM. I will be changing the seals on my spindle as it leaks oil as it is. I was wondering, if you had lowered the head onto the ram bars after sliding the bars inside, maybe the clearance would have been a little more and the rattling less evident. May be worth a try. Enjoy the "new" head!!! Daniel

[@VintageMachinery]

+AtelierDBurgoyne Yep, I have seen Keith Fenner's video from some time back. Thank goodness that I did not have to have a gear custom made or try and make one myself. Spur gears are pretty straight forward to make but helical gears have lots of variables with them that making a matching one is not as easy as one would think. Fenner has the Model 2HL while mine is a 2H - his is what they considered the "Light" version and it has some differences, one of which being that the main horizontal spindle is 40 taper instead of the larger 50 taper on my mill. As for the noise, I am pretty sure that the problem lies inside the head and is not the drive gears. I had the advantage of being able to listen to the head run and feel it as well and it was pretty obvious to me that the tick is inside. I also know that the entire head is rather stiff compared to the other one that my friend had. As such, I really think that a tear down is in order. Hopefully, it is nothing major once I get inside.

[@vajake1]

Thanks for posting this. I would never have gotten to see this otherwise! Thanks so much!

[@VintageMachinery]

+vajake1 My pleasure!

[@johnferguson7235]

Hey Keith, you made a nice find and it's great to see your K&T up and working. Do you need to put some high pressure gear lube on the gear on the 50 taper drive spindle? That might quiet down that head and get her to run smoother. Just a thought that came to me..

[@robgerrits4097]

Nice to have good luck on buying the gear, and a added possibilty to chew more metal.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Rob Gerrits That's the plan - chewing up metal!

[@JohnBare747]

Now Adam has to get his working too. Glad that worked out Keith and did not turn out to be a pig in a poke. Fixing up the new head would be a great project and as old as it is it likely needs a little TLC and perhaps new bearings, a fun project for us to watch if you get time to tackle it.

[@VintageMachinery]

+John Bare I will probably wait until I get my new shop built at home where I can tear it down and leave the parts laid out on a table while I am working on it. That is one of the issues I have working at the museum is that it is hard for me to leave things laying around for periods of time since there are so many others using that same space.

[@joemitchem5707]

I worked on K&T's for years at a large manufacturing plant. Be sure and put plenty of grease on your new drive gear. If I were you, I would remove the swivel with the head still on the machine and check out the internal gears. It's easy to do with an engine hoist, just run a cable/lifting strap down the draw bolt hole with it in the vertical position. Be sure and line up the marks on the gears when you put it back together with plenty of grease on everything.

[@KnolltopFarms]

Very cool! I'm excited for you to have that added attachment, and you seemed pleased as punch when it worked out so well, congratulations! Cannot wait to see it in action, Aloha...Chuck.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Knolltop Farms Thanks Chuck!

[@exilfromsanity]

A great addition to the K&T, will make it much more versatile.

[@tolydukhovny682]

dear keith, excellent find for you k&t! few of those floating around and far between. as for that rhythmic knock, i pray it's not a bent shaft in the head or some exotic wear. i'm sure the tear-down would be very interesting for many. thank you for the video, -toly

[@VintageMachinery]

+Toly Dukhovny Hopefully it is nothing major - only one way to find out....

[@millomweb]

Keith, I'm Guessing that V head attachment drawbar has a 'thread saver' where the very top (end) of the drawbar is used to screw the drawbar fully into the attached taper accessory and then the nut below it is used to tighten the whole bar. If that's the case, then the nut on the drawbar is the wearing thread rather than wearing the thread on the bottom end of the drawbar. And so that tightening nut thread should be kept fairly well oiled to reduce its wear as much as possible !

[@molly8904molly0]

+keith Rucker +Adam Booth just featured special grease for his K & T mill a viewer sent in. Of course we would love to see a cleaning and inspection video of the vertical head. Great videos, keep it up!

[@matthewq4b]

Great video Keith looking forward to the tear down of the vertical head.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Matthew Matthewq As am I - I want to get the new shop done before I tear into it too deep.

[@tinkermouse-scottrussell3738]

Nice find Keith, glad it worked out for you. I agree V- head overhaul would make a good video.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Scott Russell Something to look forward to!

[@bulletproofpepper2]

great video! thanks for sharing. enjoy seeing machining but your story telling stills are epic! looking forward to your inspection.

[@VintageMachinery]

+sam yeates Thanks! I am looking forward to tearing into it as well....

[@skeeter50001]

Glad for you Keith. Good find for your mill.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Skeeter Holeman Thanks

[@RobertPerrigoOkiechopper]

The head attachment by it's shape, I'm naming it " The Egghead " . That arm sure makes mounting it a breeze. A very well engineered piece of machinery .

[@VintageMachinery]

+Robert Perrigo I like it - the Egghead!

[@markl2761]

Hi kieth, just watched your video on the K&T vertical head. Like I mentioned before, I have a K&T #2 Plain but it has that same head. When I got it. But I did not get a parking attachment with it. I hope you are gonna do a video on it when you get around to making yours. Also I put my head on once without the supports sticking out about an inch and it made noise. Not the same noise as yours but it is something you might check. Thanks for all the great machining videos you do, they help me a lot. Mark

[@VintageMachinery]

+Mark L Lots to play around with on this new toy - I will get it all figured out sooner or later...

[@contreeman]

your buddy is gonna want that head swing arm back great video GOD BLESS

[@VintageMachinery]

+contreeman Probably, but there are some issues he is dealing with right now and he has not needed it. It is his as soon as he wants it back though and he knows it!

[@contreeman]

I'D HATE TO HAVE TO PICK UP THAT HEAD WITHOUT THE CARRIER ARM.LOL GOD BLESS

[@johnstrange6799]

The added versatility seems well worth the price.

[@VintageMachinery]

+John Strange Yes, it will be handy no doubt!

[@mcpheonixx]

Excellent Keith, that is a solid piece of machinery. Does anyone make shop machines like these in similar quality these days ?

[@VintageMachinery]

+mcpheonixx Not really - it cost too much money to make machinery like that now days and people want cheap. And with the modern CNC stuff, there are always new features and updated computer software/hardware that makes people want to upgrade too often to build it to last forever....

[@Thewaldo12345]

We've got a 70 year old Cincinnati model 3. It uses the same 50 taper tool holder in either mode. Don't use it much since we have the CNC's but it is handy occasionally when we need to take some heavy cuts.

[@VintageMachinery]

For production work, you just can't beat a CNC mill, but for the occasional one off part, the horizontal is a beast of a machine that you can usually crank out a single part faster than drawing it up, programming it for CNC, proofing the program and making the part with CNC. For the work that I do, my horizontal mill is an essential machine in the shop!

[@bluegreenash]

i also think it would be cool to see you manufacturing your own lifting gear for the vertical head attachment, possibly just copying the one lent to you.

[@RoelTyros]

Hello Keith, Very interesting that universal head and I did see it in several video's but never thought that it was parked there. Nice to see it working now and sounds good but a little nock I did hear but I assume that they all make some noise. It is an old machine and just like old people they make some noises haha. The price you payed for the whole machine seems not much for me even it is an old one. But when I see how much you do with it and also the pleasure to work with old machines than it is cheap. But, you have to know how they work and to maintain the machines and that is what you are doing great. Looking forward to the next video and many greetings from Roel !

[@VintageMachinery]

+RoelTyros Thanks - I get a lot of enjoyment out of my old machines. And I get a lot of enjoyment out of sharing them with you guys!

[@MattsMotorz]

Man this is such a great machine. I would love to own one. Enjoyed the video!

[@VintageMachinery]

+MattsMotorz Thanks!

[@tombellus8986]

Thanks for video can't wait to see what the noise is.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Tom Bellus I want to get in my new shop first, but this head is headed for a teardown!

[@EVguru]

Hi Keith, It's my understanding that a 'Universal' description is applied to a mill with a swiveling table, not one with both horizontal and vertical capability. I know of someone with a Victoria mill, horizontal only and described in the brochure as a Universal with swiveling table.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Paul Compton The K&T mills were sold in two variations - plan and universal. The main difference between the two was the swivel option on the table, which mine does not have. But to confuse things, they also called the heads like this a "universal head".

[@PeterWMeek]

Another great video. I really like that vertically-adjustable ball suspension. Combined with the two-arm crane it really allows a tremendous freedom of motion for easing the head into position. It's a little surprising that there is no positive inward adjustment for the two clamping bars that "grab" the dovetail. Maybe you could put a large clamp (with light pressure) across them as you tighten them, or maybe just a lever or pry-bar to push them tight onto the dovetail as you tighten them. Rigidity is everything when doing heavy milling. Thinking about it, I have a couple of ideas for how to set up either an easy prying mechanism or a clamping mechanism; let me know if these are of any interest.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Peter W. Meek The dovetail pieces actually have a notch in them so that when they are engaged they cannot slide out - pretty cleaver design. You have to loosen the bolts enough to slide them out of the notch to get them to slide from side to side. No clamp is needed.

[@danajohnson3426]

Hello Keith thank you for the videos. You have inspired me to get a mill. I picked up a model 12 Van Norman ram type .I to have been shopping ebay for 5v collets luckly there not $200.00 each.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Dana Johnson Van Norman made some good stuff - you should be happy with it. I guess that was supposed to say 5C and not 5V collets - I have never heard of 5V before! If so, they are very common and even the new ones can be bought for cheap!

[@danajohnson3426]

the 5v is the Harding designation Van Norman calls them "c" type they are smaller then 5c collets R P I inc will make them for $175.00 each Love you'r new shop

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

Man that is great news Keith .. Way to go man !! God Bless .. Thumbs up !!

[@VintageMachinery]

+ShawnMrFixitlee Thanks!

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Gjreat video. Diligence pays off again.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Amateur Redneck Workshop Thanks! Now that I have one, I will probably start finding them all over the place. That is the way it usually goes for me...

[@keithgutshall4909]

Hi Keith when yo showed close up of the gear at the end. I saw a big nasty chip in one of the teeth I would check and clean the gear good.That might be the noise n the machine

[@jcs6347]

Thanks for the note. Keep the videos coming

[@VintageMachinery]

+JC S Will do!

[@bcbloc02]

Hey Keith, watching this video I was thinking that noise sounds like a gear knock then later on when you were handling the gear I had the thought that perhaps the vertical head is going on too far in relation to the gear and the ends of the teeth are lightly clipping the drive lugs. That would about match the speed of the knock, but I can't tell if they stick up that far or not. It could also be a raised burr on one of the gears. I would check for witness marks on the lugs and the teeth in the back of the head before tearing it apart.

[@jusb1066]

+bcbloc02 i was thinking a tight spot inside the head, so the gear backlash knocks a bit

[@kellerknives]

+bcbloc02 i was thinking the same thing, also, it didnt look like he had the over arm supports sticking out to help line everything up.

[@VintageMachinery]

+bcbloc02 I am pretty sure that the noise was inside the head and not behind it, but it is hard to tell. Regardless, I think it needs a teardown and good cleaning. When I got it, it was really stiff and you could not turn it by hand - the other head my friend had would turn by hand, so no matter what, I think it needs to be cleaned really well.

[@Poppi2006]

Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Have you done a tear down of the vertical head? I'm late to the show, have looked some, but haven't found that video.

[@roncartwright8125]

Will you be moving the K&T to your new workshop when it is finished. Your video was a nice start to my day here across the Pond. Thanks very much!.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Ron Cartwright I probably will move it home eventually. Not sure yet - what I would really like to do is find a larger horizontal mill for the home shop and then leave the smaller one at the museum.

[@yngveamundsen5184]

(I absolutely love the sound of that steam whistle in the background on your videos!) :)

[@VintageMachinery]

+Yngve Amundsen Yeah, lots of people do. I have to admit that I love it too!

[@yngveamundsen5184]

+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Haha, you know the saying: "Great minds thik alike!" :)

[@danielmarino1834]

Thanks for the video. I would love to get my hands on a mill like that. I've always wanted to make putters.

[@shanek6582]

I think you should go into business making those 50 taper gears!

[@VintageMachinery]

+Shane K Before I found this one, I was considering trying to make one. If I did, I was probably going to make a small batch of them!

[@weshowe51]

I didn't recognize where you were from the original camera angle (the later one was familiar). But any doubt was removed when the train whistle was sounded!

[@VintageMachinery]

+weshowe Yeah, I was at the museum!

[@arlynsmith9196]

Very nice find! Is there no lubrication for that gear and/or the driven gear inside the head? I guess I was surprised you didn't wipe at least a bit of grease onto the gear, but then I am one of those that over-greases and that is not good, either. Honestly I usually have a mess. I am tickled to see how the parking attachment works I have heard Adam speak of it several times and he has generally described it, but I was having a hard time visualizing just what it is. Thank you!

[@VintageMachinery]

+Arlyn Smith One of the three grease zerks that I pumped up actually pumps grease onto the drive gear so that you do not have to pull the head off to grease it for a production setup, so it did get grease. As for the parking attachment, I am pretty sure that the one that Adam will be building is a lot simpler than the one I have. I have seen some pictures of what was on a mill like his and it is not nearly as complicated. I am still looking forward to watching him build his though!

[@lookcreations]

Great video, very similar v head to the Adcock and Shipley 1ES horizontal mill if a bit larger. mine has he same iso40 taper. I've been thinking of a strip down and inspection , so looking forward to your strip down video when ever you do it. Thanks.

[@VintageMachinery]

+lookcreations When I get the new shop done, this will become a project I want to do.

[@jusb1066]

interesting, last year was vise restore challenge, this year its vertical head parking arm manufacture, hehe, always something to look forward to.

[@VintageMachinery]

+jusb1066 Always...

[@rohnerw]

Enjoyed the video, Keith. Question, and I might have missed it or it was not videoed, but I didn't see the overhead/arm supports extended into the universal head before it was pushed back onto the drive, which would be necessary, would it not, to set proper gear mesh/depth/loading? Just an observation. Am always looking forward to each new video you put up. :)

[@VintageMachinery]

+rohnerw I may not have made it real obvious, but the arms were engaged in the head when I got it on the machine.

[@jeffmoss26]

Nice one as always Keith.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Jeff Moss Thanks Jeff!

[@yosmith1]

Thanks for the great demo, Keith! I would love to find one of these

[@VintageMachinery]

+Neil Smith They are handy!

[@gasworker3042]

great score Keith! thanks for sharing

[@VintageMachinery]

+Mark Schuster Thanks Mark!

[@richardlathrop61]

Keith, Congratulations on getting the mill running. Could you have manufactured your own gear on your friends universal mill?

[@VintageMachinery]

+Richard Lathrop I would still need the lead attachment to make the dividing head turn while the table feeds, so neither of us are really set up for cutting helical gears.

[@gregorywest2029]

What is the shaft protruding out the right side of the head? Is it for extending the Quill? Great video, looking forward to the check out of the head. keep em comming, Greg

[@VintageMachinery]

+Gregory West It is actually for indicating off of when setting up the head - kind of a standard built into the head.

[@DSCKy]

+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Then how do you extend the quill... or do you?

[@mrbluenun]

Hello Keith, Great judgement with the vertical gear thing!

[@newandoldtech5634]

How do you know when the gears are properly aligned? There dont seems to be any guides or stuff like that. My initial thought was that you rested the weight of the head on the gears, and wondered if that was correct and, if not, there could be problems with that.

[@VintageMachinery]

+new and old tech It is designed so that it all properly lines up when you put it in place and tighten things down. No real way to adjust it - it is just right...

[@rickswanberg4995]

On a Bridgeport, the Zerk fittings on the table are for way oil not grease. Is there any chance that the Zerks on the head are for spindle oil? Rick

[@PeterWMeek]

+Rick Swanberg - Excellent observation. I think Adam Booth (Abom79) may mention this. Someone has sent him a manual for this type of machine with a lot of good information of this sort.

[@kleinerbub84]

+Rick Swanberg Absolutely an important note! I got an old lathe, it's spindle runs only at 480 rpm max. It's bronce bearings require Oil, NOT grease. I did lubed it the first time wrong and the bearings got very very warm. Have a nice day guys

[@dinxsy8069]

Great buy, eBay certainly has it's uses at times.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Dinxsy No doubt!

[@OldIronShops]

Keith on a similar subject do you know if brown and Sharpe had a vertical atachments for the smaller mills around 1908? trying to figure a way to set one up.

[@VintageMachinery]

Not sure. I would be willing to bet they do. I think there is some older B&S literature up on my web site at www.vintagemachinery.org if you want to look.

[@raincoast2396]

Will you be moving this mill into your new home shop Keith? Looking forward to your mill head inspection/rebuild and fabrication of its support crane. Cheers.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Rain Coast To be determined. I will probably move the horizontal to my home shop and I will probably find a second vertical mill so that I can leave one at the museum and have one at home also. Should I find a larger horizontal mill, I may leave the 2H at the museum and take the bigger one home. Lots of things to figure out.... Bottom line though, I want to have at least a vertical mill at both the museum and my home shop.

[@aangelbf2]

Please do a multipart inspect, rebuild, and crane arm fab if you have the time. Nice work.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Arnold Angel I plan on tearing the head down soon. Gotta get into my new shop first though....

[@metalworksmachineshop]

Good video. I just picked up a 2h K&T , and im needing the head and the gear .

[@H-77]

Keith, would it have been possible to make that part? It would have been difficult, and I'm not sure how difficult cutting helical gears is (I imagine it's easier with a horizontal mill) but it seems like something you could make.

[@lauriefielder8762]

I have a K&T 2H with univ. head andit is the most useful machine in my shop next to the lathes It is a wartime machine supplied under Lend lease have a few minor issues with it but it works well

[@bluegreenash]

couldn't see any kind of orientation indicators, are you planning to fit this perhaps with some kind of graduated ring? it may be possible to engrave/fit one onto the ring of the seat as there looks to be about 3/4 inch of space there.

[@VintageMachinery]

+bluegreenash Not quite following you - there are graduations on the swivel when you rotate the head so that you can read the angle it is positioned in.

[@bluegreenash]

ok, i couldn't see the indicator, i was wondering if you were going to machine one yourself

[@jcs6347]

Hi Keith, after all that grease you pumped in did you get any grease spin out between the spindle and the housing? I have that problem with my millrite and was wondering if that is somewhat normal? Thanks!

[@VintageMachinery]

+JC S I have not dug into thing far enough yet to really know. I suspect that the seals might be leaking though.

[@morrisgallo2361]

Like Paul Jones I wondered if you could make a gear and mount on 50 taper. I've seen you make straight tooth gear so wonder why not an angled straight tooth.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Morris Gallo Helical gears are a lot more complicated and I really don't have the lead attachment for the mill to get the spiral cut. I could probably rig it up, but no matter what, I think the cash for this part would probably be cheaper than setting the mill up to make it!

[@hitoortega1616]

Hello Keith you put a grease on the drive gear ? check for burt or dirt on the tooth

[@VintageMachinery]

+Hito Ortega Yes, the drive gear was greased!

[@Lorddarthvader1701]

That's pretty cool if you do have to work on the head that will be a neat project

[@VintageMachinery]

+Lorddarthvader1701 I am afraid that I will probably be tearing it apart. I just won't feel good unless I do.

[@gregorywest2029]

Thanks for the quick reply.

[@douglaslambert2000]

You find out any information about your lubricator on your 040 locomotive? I have picture of your lubricator.

[@morrisgallo2361]

If you're thinking of duplicating the overarm seems like the ideal first project for you soon-to-be finished furnace.

[@VintageMachinery]

+Morris Gallo I have considered casting up some pieces. That would be fun....

[@johngermain3535]

are you going to make a holder to keep the gear and the drive blocks on the mill. so they don't get lost in the future?

[@VintageMachinery]

+John Germain I am wanting to make a holder for all of my 50 taper tooling that I can keep near the mill. That will probably be a project for when I move the mill to my home shop and I have some more room.

[@Guds777]

what is this pin on the right site of the spindle head.

[@ChrisB257]

Ahah - ebay rocks sometimes :) Great find. Can just imagine your satisfaction at getting that head usable. Noise is a bit concerning -- wondered if you greased the bevel gears when you installed. As you mentioned, a tear down would probably be useful.

[@VintageMachinery]

+ChrisB257 Yeah, there was grease on the gears. I too think a tear down is the way to go.

[@donniehalfhill4332]

Keith I just acquired a model H and I am missing the same gear and the dovetail pieces on the sides. I ordered a manual so I will have part numbers but any leads on a gear would be greatly appreciated I've checked ebay with no luck

[@wnebergall]

Keith what about some lubrication on the new gear ?

[@VintageMachinery]

+Bill Nebergall It had some grease on it.

[@wnebergall]

+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org ok camera made it look dry but a good teardown is always fun ;-)

[@kellerknives]

+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org isnt the over arm supports suppose to be adjusted out so the vertical head is aligned properly ? didnt look like you had them out.