Excellent video that thoroughly covers the basics. Crediting which runner scored as a result of an RBI can be tracked more efficiently by replacing RBI hash marks with the batting order number of the runner(s) (not jersey number). In the example above: Bellagamba's (2)RBI home run scored batters #3 & #4... write "3,4" instead of "II". This modification can eliminate confusion, especially when sorting out complex situations. Would love to see how mikescottbaseball handles the dropped third strike both in batter-runner out and batter-runner safe situations.
@burningrebel7773 ай бұрын
Agreed drop third rule is heavy in our league
@louramsey5 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial for a 1st timer! Appreciate the time you put into this.
@martysafterhours4 жыл бұрын
"Pitcher's having a rough inning right here." :D
@lrla865711 ай бұрын
Thank you! Went to a Brewers game on Saturday. Had my scoresheet. Watched Canha hit the Grand Slam out of the park for the tie breaker! Was amazing!!!
@ZiphrosАй бұрын
How the brewers stadium in indoor
@lrla8657Ай бұрын
@@Ziphros it leaks. The people to to the right of us had to move because the water was pouring right on them but most areas were dry.
@BLeonard199611 жыл бұрын
Most scorebooks have more than 9 innings in them, so what's usually done is, you simply cross the inning number at the top out and renumber accordingly... So, if a team beats through the lineup in the 5th, you would cross out the 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 and renumber them 5,6,7,8,9. Of course, if the game goes into extra innings, you might have to improvise and use another page to finish the game. :)
@robocoastie10 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed. Actually more than needed for the community league I coach in but gleaned what needed and got stuff for more advanced. THANKS!
@tonywatkins61398 жыл бұрын
Great video man. It's easy to follow and you did a nice job of explaining the wide range of situations that you're likely to see while watching a ball game.
@401knowledge3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thanks. I have to start scoring for my son's team, so this was a big help.....and I think you have the nicest handwriting I've ever seen from a man!
@Blucenturion34410 жыл бұрын
I have been diligently keeping score on TV games, using what I picked up from a Kindle book, but this is so much better. Not that I won't need to watch it again, but it does put into place some gray areas in my mind. (no pun intended) Thanks for your effort, Mike!
@JohnQBaker9 жыл бұрын
Great basic tutorial. Personally I use "tick" marks to show where runners stopped on the bag. This shows legit 2B/3B hits over bags reached; plus dots too show runs instead of a filled in diamond. Keeps things clean. Finally, use numbers in the pitch count boxes so you know on which pitch a hit occurred.
@Portrial5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Bunefoo4012 жыл бұрын
Huge Cubbies fan for years, just now learning how to actually keep a scoresheet. Thank you for this
@Mgruz134 жыл бұрын
great video...but you robbed Scott of an rbi in the 4th!
@scottf8410 Жыл бұрын
Pitcher A pitches to Batter 1 who flies out to right field. Batter 2 reaches on base on balls. Batter 3 doubles, Batter 2 reaches third base. Pitcher B relieves Pitcher A. Pitcher B pitches to Batter 3 and the ball reaches the backstop. We’ll call it a passed ball to take Pitcher B out of this scenario. (If it is deemed a wild pitch the impact on earned runs is the same). Batter 2 scores on the passed ball. Batter 3 advances to third on the passed ball. Batter 4 grounds to the pitcher and is thrown out at first, but Batter 2 scores on a fielder’s choice. Batter 5 grounds out to short and the inning is ended. What runs are earned in the above scenario, if any? (Rule 9.16 in the rule book, Earned Runs and Runs Allowed)
@raymondsmith86386 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. I do one thing a little differently. I don't keep track of the balls and strikes (too much work if you are just having fun, or in a rec league), so I put a tick mark for an RBI in the boxes that are there for the balls and strikes. Just personal preference.
@bbbyrdistheword8 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Very informative and well made all around. Thanks man
@eldestisland45205 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mike! This has always been a mystery to me.
@awesomesocks4449 жыл бұрын
Good video but what if the line up hits around in an inning before getting all 3 outs?
@katespinelli62519 жыл бұрын
You would go to the next inning and cross the number out and put the number of the inning you where on
@timbruse9 жыл бұрын
Kate Spinelli I was wondering the same question. Cross out the top number for the next column (inning) and continue downward on the next as if it were the same? What about the next inning?
@katespinelli62519 жыл бұрын
I think you just keep crossing it out? Idk I probably should know I have to keep the book tomorrow for my softball team
@garrettrichards55595 жыл бұрын
Yes you renumber all subsequent innings
@Violet-vp1vf4 жыл бұрын
@@garrettrichards5559 Or use a scorecard with blank inning boxes...
@bbarker57668 жыл бұрын
FYI.... this is advanced score keeping and you do not need to write in everything like he shows you because some books are small and you dont have enough room to put everything. I keep track of the strikes, balls(helps with pitch counts too), errors, where a batter hit, stolen bases, and outs. I do not mark rbi's, runner advances on wild pitches, errors, etc. It's nice to know this but in reality games for kids in rec or travel ball does not need to have every stat until theybstart playing high school ball. Another thing if a player misses a ball trying to make a play it is not always counted as an error so if you're not sure ask the coach if he wants to record errors. Actually if you keeping book for kids under 12yo I wouldn't even worry about errors or stolen bases... pitch count (balls/strikes), outs and the runners/score.
@CARLOSVLA5 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! At 7:20 I think Scott Should be given an RBI on the fielders choice. I believe in MLB rules if the fielders choice is a double play, then the hitter would not get an RBI for the run scored.
@ydnicmondragon12 жыл бұрын
This is so awesome! Great detail and good choice of plays. Thank you for posting :)
@katespinelli62519 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this is was really informational because I need to write the book for my school team this really helped a lot!
@juicenot24813 жыл бұрын
What do you do if the bats around the order, a batter hits twice in one inning
@PhilGeissler2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Thanks!
@sarahross61572 жыл бұрын
Wow this was incredibly helpful! I have lots to learn.
@charlessmith2633 жыл бұрын
Special terms I am thinking of.... IF - Infield fly. Since the batter doing that IF is automatically out before the ball is caught, just put in the player number who caught the IF, like 1 (for pitcher). GRD - Ground Rule Double - do 2 lines for HP to IB and IB to 2B. Put GRD in the pitcher's area, since the batter who hits the ground rule double can only advance to 2nd and no more than that. More abbreviations..... FK - foul strikeout - in this case, usually the foul strikeout is in 2 ways - FK - T - foul strikeout by foul tip FK - BF - for foul strikeout by bunting foul on 2nd strike
@jamesone173 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you!!
@katherinemartinez34425 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This was great and easy to understand.
@redcydranth243511 жыл бұрын
Baker did not score the last out, nor did not reach base that inning. His at bat was never completed so it does not count as an official at bat. When he returns to the plate, he will start with a fresh 0-0 Balls and Stikes count as well. His at bat does not "continue". Scott does earn an RBI on that FC. Yes.
@matbur81 Жыл бұрын
Word of warning, don't watch this video outside of the baseball season as you'll really miss watching games.
@Steve2590129 күн бұрын
The way you mark for runners advancing, it's going to be confusing figuring out how many errors or wild pitches or whatever there are
@adrianacgrc9 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooooo much! I'm the score keeper for little league, great help! 1st time doing it.
@johnmoranradio10 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks for posting.
@zmot4 ай бұрын
Best tutorial on KZbin by a huge margin 8:30 should be an RBI on the FC I believe?
@sofit.10279 жыл бұрын
Thabks so much for this tutorial. It really helped me for scoring, i only knew some basics of it
@AntonioCavicchioni Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@indierock794 жыл бұрын
Thank you for going over the subs hitters at the end! I need to know how to sub pitchers though :) I'm confused by that.
@chazstrickland10 жыл бұрын
nice instructing, mike! thanks.
@christinemiller19675 жыл бұрын
What’s the notation for picked off?
@peytonsumpter3 жыл бұрын
I know this was awhile ago but I do it similar to if they were caught stealing. Draw the line halfway between 1st & 2nd, but instead of writing 2-5 (like catcher to shortstop for example) I write 1-3 (pitcher to 1st baseman). You can also write “PO” for pickoff next to the line halfway between 1st & 2nd. Hope this helped!
@andrewmoody311210 ай бұрын
When Kennedy was caught stealing, Baker would have been up to bat and would not have finished his at-bat. How would you annotate he was at bat but never finished due to the third out caught stealing 2nd?
@devinobrien42628 жыл бұрын
Great video, what would I write is the pitcher picks off a baserunner?
@footballer10k865 жыл бұрын
if the pick was at first base you would write "1-3 pick" and whatever out in the circle
@Angel.Custodio3 ай бұрын
Wonder if Kennedy got his spot back next game.
@abehjhakibuuka713 жыл бұрын
This good to know and thanks for sharing. Is the score keeper for the home team supposed to keep score and notations for visitors as well, or is each team responsible for their own? Thanks again.
@leapopielinski11382 жыл бұрын
In the leagues I've scored for, there are scorekeepers for both teams, and each one keeps a page for each team. In the scorebook, you normally use facing pages so that you have one half of the game on one side, and the other half right across from it. The coaches are going to know what happened during both halves of the inning, and it's handy to have someone to compare notes with.
@mynerssportscardsandgaming9312 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video had to watch this cuz my coach requiring us to chart games
@dagdogg12 жыл бұрын
The design of the scorebook page is the same design as the pages of the scorebooks sold at some sporting goods stores(Olympia, Dick's, etc.).
@taemalua_684 Жыл бұрын
What if in the same inning and the batting order overlaps? For example kept going with 2 or less outs?
@TurtleMarcus2 ай бұрын
If the team bats around, let's say in the 3rd inning, what you do, is this: you go to the 4th column, but cross out the number and write 3rd, and then continue filling in as normal. For the 4th inning, you use the 5th column, so you have to cross out the 5 and write 4, and you do this for every subsequent inning. Most scorecards have at least 10 innings, so it usually works out fine.
@redcydranth243511 жыл бұрын
For the batting purposes, only an error. On this card only the E2 would be tallied. If you were on the other side and keeping the pitching stats, the pitcher would still be awarded a strikeout, despite the error occurring. That run, if he ever comes to cross the plate, would be unearned and not count against his ERA.
@annieblass80007 жыл бұрын
Huge help. Thanks
@erinp366110 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thanks!
@indierock794 жыл бұрын
I was going to raise my hand if I was in class - doesn't the first guy get an RBI in the 4th from the FC but he answered my question later. No RBIs for WP or Errors. Got it!
@REStewart112 жыл бұрын
This was great, but what happens if the line-up bats around and you've filled the column for, say, the fourth inning? Do you simply shift over into the column for the fifth inning and continue, renumbering the inning columns across the top of the page? Is there any special notation or system for doing this? Thanks.
@jeremyandelisha Жыл бұрын
Yes how indeed
@njitgrad11 жыл бұрын
In the fourth inning when Ulrichs scored on the 6-4 fielder's choice, why didn't the batter Scott get awarded an RBI?
@bts234575 жыл бұрын
Chris B. Think he just forgot to mention that.
@BachBeethovenBergАй бұрын
What happens when a team bats around in an inning? Do you have to move to the next column?
@polychris59613 жыл бұрын
The fielders choice in the 4th should’ve got an rbi. There was a lot going on there, so I’m not mad you missed it, lol
@tonyfc88092 жыл бұрын
You dont get an RBI for FC
@HoOGenghisB3 ай бұрын
RBI FC for Scott!
@dagdogg12 жыл бұрын
I think you could use the Rawlings Official Pro Model scorebook, which has 12 inning columns per sheet.
@awesomesocks4449 жыл бұрын
Thanks, just saw the answer from Kenneth Trimble's post.
@GraphicAustin10 жыл бұрын
What do you do if you go all the way through the lineup since the whole inning would be filled up
@PrideofPitchers10 жыл бұрын
Cross out the next inning and write the same inning you're in. If you were in the 6th and you batted around, cross out the 7th, and make it the 6th.
@jamesatwell76093 жыл бұрын
How do keep score for both teams and count pitches? Marking strikes and balls doesn’t cover repeated foul balls.
@leapopielinski11382 жыл бұрын
Some scorebooks have a row of numbers to mark off for that. You can also add little dots next to the strike boxes to indicate foul balls after the first two strikes.
@thatotheradam5 жыл бұрын
The batter who is scored a fielder's choice and causes the run to score should have been awarded an RBI.
@lukefiveash14275 жыл бұрын
Yup
@jamesr41946 жыл бұрын
What do you do if they bat around?
@Jaxonhill181810 жыл бұрын
What do you do when there is a runner on 1st and a grounder is hit to the SS and he steps on second base and throws to 1B? Would it just be the 6-3 double play? Or 6U-3?
@foodie_friend_dee8 жыл бұрын
6U-3 since technically the shortstop doesn't have a bag
@Andy-hb3zp8 жыл бұрын
Are Sacrifice Bunts and Sacrifice Flies written differently? If so, how are they written?!!
@dagdogg8 жыл бұрын
+Andy I write sacrifice bunt as "SBT" and sacrifice fly as "SF".
@peetre5 жыл бұрын
Great job
@proudbirther19984 жыл бұрын
Try putting in some Pitching changes and substitutions
@trickwheel2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but what happens when the team bats around? Where do you keep the score for that?
@sarahpallett942411 жыл бұрын
Two quick questions: why is Baker the last batter in the 3rd and the first batter in the 4th? Also does scott earn a RBI on the FC? Thx! Great videos!
@andrewmoody311210 ай бұрын
I'm confused too, if Kennedy was caught stealing Baker would have been at bat at the time and would not have finished his at-bat, Ulrichs should have been the first batter in the 4th. Not sure how to annotate that either lol
@TurtleMarcus2 ай бұрын
To quote the MLB Glossary: "A batter does not receive a plate appearance if a runner is thrown out on the bases to end the inning while he is at bat." Baker is not credited with a plate appearance (PA) in that situation, so he gets to go up first in the 4th inning.
@AlonsoRules7 жыл бұрын
how about infield fly rule?
@spoilerwarning28 Жыл бұрын
What’s the move when you go over through the lineup in one inning
@dagdogg12 жыл бұрын
Mike, are these videos on keeping a scorebook going to be on your DVD?
@jimmcdonald705011 жыл бұрын
Start in the next column and update the inning number for the new inning.
@kdtrimble10 жыл бұрын
Did you notice he did not advance the 4th batter on the balk but gave him a home-run? Slight overlook but a great tutorial.
@madisonstaley44169 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Trimble The batter doesn't get a base on a balk. The runners advance and the batter remains at bat.
@toddrandall686 жыл бұрын
Batters don't get 1st on a balk. Runners advance.
@thomasfrank12278 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good video.
@johnspinksjr505910 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@RoweShawn11 жыл бұрын
You are awesome, thanks
@jamie-dempsey10 жыл бұрын
What about a pick off? You did failed stolen base but isn't that different?
@erickwardwell9625 жыл бұрын
What happens if you have 1 batter come up more than once in an inning.
@liambecker5586 жыл бұрын
What do I do if my book doesn't have the types of hits on top? Do I just write it on the path from home to first?
@TurtleMarcus2 ай бұрын
What I do, is write the type of it in the diamond itself, and then I also don't color it in if the runner scores.
@laurie9117211 жыл бұрын
great video!! Thank You!!
@dagdogg12 жыл бұрын
Or you could print a double-sided scoresheet off the internet and insert it into the scorebook after you fill it out.
@TheIerockabilly Жыл бұрын
What do u do if the same batter comes to hit in the same inning???
@TurtleMarcus2 ай бұрын
You move over to the next column, but you cross out the number. So if you bat around in the 3rd, you go to the 4th column, cross out the number 4 and write 3, and keep going from there. And then you change the number for every subsequent inning. Most scorecards have at least 10 innings, it you usually don't run out of space.
@TheMrcdoyle12 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@sharonroseamomas36587 жыл бұрын
thanks for this video..
@williamalvarado2356 жыл бұрын
What if the second baseman didn’t catch but it was right next to him is that an error or a hit
@TurtleMarcus2 ай бұрын
That is actually up to the umpire and/or scorer to decide.
@warandconquest65223 жыл бұрын
Pulling Kennedy instead of Baker, who is 2-4. SMH
@bryanschwendener860310 жыл бұрын
in the third inning the number 5 batter was put caught stealing for the third out. Assuming that the number 6 batter was at the plate when this occurred should the 4th inning start with the number 7 batter? other than that great tutorial.
@robertblair60829 жыл бұрын
no if the 6th batter was up he should start the next inning
@dagdogg9 жыл бұрын
Rboert B You are correct.
@MrStevo288111 жыл бұрын
I actually learned something today
@mountain232210 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kristikoons32289 жыл бұрын
what scorekeeping book do you use?
@dagdogg8 жыл бұрын
+Kristi koons That;s from a Rawling's System-17 scorebook available at stores like Olympia Sports or Dick's Sporting Goods(with their logo on the front) and at www.dickssportinggoods.com or www.rawlings.com.
@Mgruz134 жыл бұрын
how would you score a man reaching 1st on a dropped 3rd strike?
@gw19913 жыл бұрын
Depending on who is deemed at fault for the drop....WP for a wild pitch (earned if he scores) or PB a passed ball (unearned of he scores).
@eyofoyeyo13 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial!
@AdamD02112 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't Scott have gotten credit for an RBI on the fielders choice in the 4th?
@Angel.Custodio3 ай бұрын
Depends. If the runner breaks on contact yes. But if not no.
@xdiminished28826 жыл бұрын
How do you notate a pitching change?
@TurtleMarcus2 ай бұрын
I usually put a horizontal line between the rows were the pitching change occurred.
@tapoutorsleep15 жыл бұрын
I wanna know about a drop 3rd strike? How do you put that in the book?
@tavisvee2ify4 жыл бұрын
K PB if the runner reaches firstbase...or K 2-3 if the catcher throws the batter out at firstbase
@sarahgilmurray67183 жыл бұрын
@@tavisvee2ify what does the PB stand for?
@TurtleMarcus2 ай бұрын
@@sarahgilmurray6718 Passed Ball.
@zoezzzarko1117 Жыл бұрын
Rule #1 Use PENCIL ❤
@brettsellers56878 жыл бұрын
What if someone bats twice in the same inning?
@brettsellers56878 жыл бұрын
+Nicole In high school baseball it does actually
@brettsellers56878 жыл бұрын
+Nicole is think they'd have to be pretty similar, but there might be some minor differences
@dagdogg8 жыл бұрын
+FriendsPlayGames They call it "batting around" and it happens in a lot of minor league and major league games.
@neilonaniet7 жыл бұрын
A lot of scorecards have more than nine columns, so you can enter stats for extra innings played. What you could do is use one of those, and write the inning number (4) at the top to show the continuation. So in this video, if the fourth inning meant that Baker batted twice, I would move across to the furthest right extra column and enter his details on the 6th line down. The reason I'd use the furthest right column is that if the game goes to ten innings and you've put the continuation of inning four right next to inning nine, then you'd have the columns in the order 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 4, 10 ... which would be a bit confusing. You could then in theory fill in nine more at bats in the fourth inning, although the chances of getting 18 batters at the plate in one inning are slim. :-)
@christinemiller19675 жыл бұрын
Move to the next column. If the innings are noted at the top of the column, then cross them out and write in the inning you are in.
@TheEpicWin50011 жыл бұрын
i'm interested in the answer to this as well
@luisbaez43128 жыл бұрын
what if a batter has a second at bat in the inning where to do you score that if there is no open boxes
@bbarker57668 жыл бұрын
If you go through the line up and the leadoff batter is up again you move to the next column but mark the inning number out at the top and write the inning that they are still playing. Once they get 3 outs you will have to mark the remaining inning numbers out and put the correct # in so the book is correct with the game. Hope this helps.
@josemarquez79788 жыл бұрын
it did
@BenKernGolf11 жыл бұрын
What do you do if the team bats thru the lineup?
@azdigbee5 жыл бұрын
Impossibly confusing. It seems it would be easier to learn Chineese and Dutch languages !
@jake92x10 жыл бұрын
Ehat happens if the team bats around in one inning
@kdtrimble10 жыл бұрын
If it happens in the 4th inning, move to the 5th and cross off Inning 5 and put 4. Same with the rest of the innings.
@MrLeviaFUN12 жыл бұрын
How do you score a play where the batter strikes out BUT it's a passed ball and he reaches first ? is this an error or a strike-out or both ?
@toddrandall686 жыл бұрын
It's a strikeout but I would think it's up to the scorer if it's an E1 or E2.
@royrowland57635 жыл бұрын
@@toddrandall68 Rules supposedly state that if the batter only reaches first base on a dropped third strike, it cannot be an error -- and error only occurs if he advances more than one base. The scoring for just reaching first base is a K with a PB (passed ball).