Keeping It Hyperreal: Patrick Kramer’s Detailed Paintings

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Y Magazine

Y Magazine

8 жыл бұрын

For his hyper­realistic art, Patrick E. Kramer (BFA ’08) finds what he calls “mesmerizing imagery”-glowing marbles, a dozing child, a hallway resplendent with light. Then it’s “just a matter of putting the hours in”-sometimes up to 300-to re-create a photograph layer upon layer onto a canvas. Kramer’s fascination with hyperrealism began in BYU art classes. “I always wanted to get more and more detail, so I just pushed the limit and tried to see how far I could take it,” says Kramer, a full-time painter in Orem, Utah. He will display his art in a solo show in 2016 at the Trove Gallery in Park City.

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@haimbenavraham1502
@haimbenavraham1502 4 жыл бұрын
Bringing real beauty into this world is a struggle. That makes you a hero.
@ziadbassaj7761
@ziadbassaj7761 4 жыл бұрын
Haim Ben Avraham 100% agree
@Snicklefritz10
@Snicklefritz10 4 жыл бұрын
People like this should be cherished in our world, not stuck up talentless actors and celebrities.
@trevorgwelch7412
@trevorgwelch7412 4 жыл бұрын
It’s like a dreamy landscape with shades of reality highlighted with hues of magenta, blues , greens , greys .... extremely beautiful.
@vincentcooper7181
@vincentcooper7181 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful work, great skill. Believe in yourself and don't listen to those who say "real" art is not figurative. All good art is basically figurative, whether it's impressionistic, expressionism or, like your work, ultra realistic. Many "artists" today do not have your skill and would privately be envious of you.
@harshadk4595
@harshadk4595 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect, unambiguously put forth. Thank you, Vincent.
@badapple65
@badapple65 4 жыл бұрын
The human brain is amazing. Artists like this were downloaded/programmed with an extra program or two. Seems like a nice fellow too.
@melou_
@melou_ 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you!
@harshadk4595
@harshadk4595 4 жыл бұрын
.he looked a bit dejected with his situation ..though he's great at his art
@sparks2749
@sparks2749 4 жыл бұрын
As an illustrator myself (Airbrush, watercolor, pencil...etc.) I used to paint lots of hyperreal cartoon super heroes. Then I got into photography and shot lots of body builders. The money was in the catalogs I designed since I would never sell my artwork... it was reproduced in magazines but for a very reduced cost. The sad reality is,... the vast majority of artists will never see the true value of their art and hard work during their lifetime... but years later someone else will!
@Ash-se6gh
@Ash-se6gh 4 жыл бұрын
it’s not sad, it’s called reality, it’s just like with sports, only the top 5 procent are good enough to make a decent living, and just 1% gets really rich.
@karenholland6910
@karenholland6910 7 жыл бұрын
I am gob smacked by the skill of hyper realist painters. You rock!!!!
@Vivungisport
@Vivungisport 4 жыл бұрын
You can do it!
@amon_stdio
@amon_stdio 4 жыл бұрын
Actually the entire video is painted
@calcramer
@calcramer 4 жыл бұрын
AMON best comment I’ve read in a long time
@gregtegreg
@gregtegreg 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 best comment!
@ziadbassaj7761
@ziadbassaj7761 4 жыл бұрын
AMON that comment was a stroke of genius!
@debbiesunlight7047
@debbiesunlight7047 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@joeshmoe7967
@joeshmoe7967 4 жыл бұрын
By him, 1 frame at a time. He is much older now.......
@bustedrav
@bustedrav 4 жыл бұрын
This is why art is amazing, something this technical and left brained is still very much art. This type of art is basically drafting, but the subject is anything in the world. Fabulous dedication and technical ability. 👌
@kpsfineart-DreamingBearStudio
@kpsfineart-DreamingBearStudio 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Love your work and wish you the best!
@genobourn7423
@genobourn7423 4 жыл бұрын
Young man keep doing what you do! You're a excellent artist. I have been a artist my entire life ( I am in my 60's). Enjoy!
@Rhea303
@Rhea303 4 жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable .. I have no words for the genius that you are .. 👌 .. greetings from the Netherlands..!
@thousandaireradio3199
@thousandaireradio3199 4 жыл бұрын
I'm humbled. Great work!
@rogeryoung3573
@rogeryoung3573 7 жыл бұрын
Truly amazing and skilful work. Hope you have the success your art deserves.
@aleegee5869
@aleegee5869 4 жыл бұрын
So inspiring! Thank you and Great Work!
@JoseLoyAdan
@JoseLoyAdan 4 жыл бұрын
his art work is so inspirational!
@troybridgeman
@troybridgeman 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work - artists create what inspires them and that makes it real
@confirmhandle
@confirmhandle 4 жыл бұрын
I like art like this that doesn't take a liberal college degree to explain why something is art.
@shadowbanned5164
@shadowbanned5164 4 жыл бұрын
Have to say it would be a real hoot to have one of his paintings on the wall and tell folks its not a photograph but a painting.
@windrider5845
@windrider5845 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that talent! I like doing realistic style but I started trying to be more loose and whimsical, that is the hardest to do for me. This guy is amazing!
@JayBoooks
@JayBoooks 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen that holding stick method before. Great idea!!
@erlingrugsten636
@erlingrugsten636 4 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough we all look for a purpose something to connect to something that makes use see a reflected version of once self. I would like to express my gratitude, fore all the hours that you have sacrificed as this permits us all this world from yore perspective. You have found yore IKIGAI , THANK YOU FOR SHARING YORE IKIGAI
@josephlowry4320
@josephlowry4320 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting I must say, Hyperreal art looks fascinating.
@ellinachname9018
@ellinachname9018 3 жыл бұрын
🤩💫🧡👌👍wouw !! Foto or Painting ......you can't see the difference 🙂🤗
@galewhiteman2047
@galewhiteman2047 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you for sharing your gift with us. I’m always looking for the silver lining in all things. You have OCD...it helps you create beautiful detailed works of art.
@waynekelley583
@waynekelley583 2 жыл бұрын
Some awesome work bro!
@deanpratley125
@deanpratley125 4 жыл бұрын
My daughter is an artist (not by trade) she is an interior designer. However, she does make money from her paintings. I told her to find the bread and butter jobs to pay for the fun jobs. She did and not she is well know and doing well on the side. Plus when she was doing the fun jobs. I told her she wasn’t charging anywhere near enough. Finally she took the advice and upped her prices considerably. The people still came and just couldn’t get enough of her paintings. Now she loves her work.
@johnswaim3919
@johnswaim3919 4 жыл бұрын
I am grateful you and your daughter are so blessed. Cheers!
@McNaughtonArt
@McNaughtonArt 4 жыл бұрын
Never give up your dream. It's the tenacious who succeed
@katywuste9054
@katywuste9054 4 жыл бұрын
Great artist with a matching personality
@remlya
@remlya 4 жыл бұрын
“Art is something that I’m good at” That’s quite the understatement. It would have been nice to see more of his work. But I don’t really need to feel any more inferior than I already do.
@ericknopf2109
@ericknopf2109 4 жыл бұрын
Michael_M His statement is accurate. Can you learn art, how to draw, paint, sculpt, draw, etc.? Yes. But some people are simply born with the skill. Some simply find out they’re good at it. ANYONE can get better with practice, this is simply his style that he discovered he’s good at. Also keep in mind he probably spends HUNDREDS of hours on each painting.
@GLYNDYER
@GLYNDYER 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Knopf I’m not certain you are born with the skill but from a early age we show different personality traits and some people have more sensitivity which manifests itself creatively. They younger you start to show skill and stick with it the better you become just like top athletes which start from around 3 years old....
@johnswaim3919
@johnswaim3919 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he knows or ever met Robin Clark (Sealark) of BYU....
@badapple65
@badapple65 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick E. Kramer try to google image search the dude. In the video drop down they give information on him including a solo art show coming up for him. Wow is he talented. This video must have been recommended to me in the KZbin suggested video way because I watched a longer video yesterday about a guy that pretty much only paints food as his subjects. He did a painting about 6’ x 6’ of a fried egg. Looked like the most clear photograph of an egg ever.
@tazmon122
@tazmon122 4 жыл бұрын
no, he's only GOOD. he has his process (which is all technical). with the tools we have in the modern age, it's really not hard to walk through his process. it's mostly just being meticulous, and often times precise yes...but that's something that builds as you do the repetitions of process. but he is so built and honed into the hyper-realistic style, that everything becomes precious. GOOD is the technical drawing. GREAT is being able to destroy process and maintain composure. you can't put this guy next to the violence of Francis Bacon, the regal nature of John Singer Sargent, the weight of Rothko, the empathy of Kehinde Wiley, or the poetry of Alice Neal. his technical jargon would be completely swelled out. good, not great. consider instead of feeling inferior, but on the blinders, don't think about what everyone else is doing. listen to a few episodes of Bob Ross (who really isn't that good either)....see the great thing about Bob Ross is that he was always pushing people to stop taking art as such a precious thing. screw that. just paint. it's your world. your imagination. not mine, not Patrick Kramer's, not Bob Ross's. no one but you. let that guide your hand. just paint. it'll make you feel better.
@spinnetti
@spinnetti 4 жыл бұрын
So amazing...
@WaningGibbous
@WaningGibbous 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see some of his other work :)
@fbales
@fbales 4 жыл бұрын
No one has the right to question any artists style. You can like it, dislike it, love it or hate it, but you cannot question an artists style-it’s his or her personal expression. I sincerely try to embrace all art, and although I’m not successful, I will still recognize the individuals distinct style, and their right too it.
@loustick2688
@loustick2688 4 жыл бұрын
C'est magnifique 🥰
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 4 жыл бұрын
That is amazing
@daviddunneart
@daviddunneart 4 жыл бұрын
Great work very nice video
@fritzfedke8079
@fritzfedke8079 4 жыл бұрын
WOW....JUST, WOW...
@lisalovelylpa
@lisalovelylpa 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting process , I paint the opposite way , I like when he says the creative process for him is over when he starts to paint, for me it’s just beginning. So many ways to make art ! It’s also funny that hyper realistic art is referred to as realism , in fact , to make hyper realistic art , as this man does one must be a master of illusion, what then do we call , abstract , expressionistic painting and so on, not real ? But someone will come by and say wow that’s a real sunny side up egg , I can eat it , of course it’s not real , it’s just paint on a flat surface. LOL
@WanderleiSilva29
@WanderleiSilva29 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy easel.... where was that picked up?
@thomasgoins1874
@thomasgoins1874 4 жыл бұрын
Whooooooo top shelf.
@axelgs11
@axelgs11 4 жыл бұрын
🤤Gobsmacked what skill you have👍
@aptknifethrowerguy8342
@aptknifethrowerguy8342 4 жыл бұрын
I was 8 when i told my dad i was going to be an artist...he told me to learn to grow my own food and buy a tent....im 55 now i paint portraits make silver jewelry carve walking sticks....and work in restaurants to pay the bills....
@jfb4186
@jfb4186 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing work Patrick!!
@patmccaffery1543
@patmccaffery1543 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing.....I wonder if his attention to detail reflects in any other part of his life 🤔🤔..!!
@catzor4795
@catzor4795 4 жыл бұрын
Doubt that. Personality types like his usually are way too obsessed in their interest/work that they forget about things and people around them. Like, they're so hyperfocused in one thing it's kinda hard for them to multi-task. That's just a hunch though.
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 4 жыл бұрын
My whole life growing up I always wanted to draw things as real as possible. I thought that was the greatest form of art. When it looked real. Then I heard a quote saying that something that looks exactly like the thing it is of, while being difficult and requiring great skill, is just a copy. The "Art" comes in when an artist gives their interpretation of the thing that the drawing is of. And that statement changed my views on what art should be.... and in 2 minutes and 41 seconds, this video made me change my mind back to my original stance lmao
@johnswaim3919
@johnswaim3919 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's why it's so true that "art" is subjective.
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 4 жыл бұрын
@tubetardism 20/20 aka opinion 😉🤣
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 4 жыл бұрын
@tubetardism 20/20 aka "favorite type of" 😁
@kankankankan4788
@kankankankan4788 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, when will u show yr new video again?
@AmatriceBand
@AmatriceBand 4 жыл бұрын
What was the end product ? Your works weren’t shown here
@KyleGravesLive
@KyleGravesLive 4 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of that stick he held on the canvas?
@ALIASZARDOZ
@ALIASZARDOZ 4 жыл бұрын
Today there are super color photocopiers 😄😉 Serious now : I understand this kind of painting because I practiced it few years ago (with color pencils). Now I abandoned/gave up this style because it no longer interests me. It's a choice, it's my taste. But I understand who made it and people buy it.
@swimbait1
@swimbait1 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to see some of his completed work
@artemon9472
@artemon9472 7 жыл бұрын
Genius
@valzerna
@valzerna 7 жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE skills!!! not my type of painting, its like a pic shot with a camera... but like i said, incredible skills!
@mattfoley4128
@mattfoley4128 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@kimkimson627
@kimkimson627 4 жыл бұрын
going back to this clip again. Yeah it is really hard to ceep going when you aren't selling art. It's mentally draining and it's costing allot to build up these painintgs to only have them in the basement or painting over them several times. Deep inside you know as an artist that you may newer break threw.
@richvail7551
@richvail7551 4 жыл бұрын
kim kimson I hope you have time to answer some questions. I enjoy understanding how others think and make sense of their lives. When you say draining, is it the process that is draining or is it the fact that you are consumed to break through that is consuming? If you don’t break through at the level of supporting your self with your art will you quit doing your art completely? Thanks
@bronney
@bronney 4 жыл бұрын
Being a photographer for the past 10 years taught me many life lessons. One of them, is that if you persevere, eventually you WILL break through. This is because although there are many painters, as in all other professions, very few will actually be stupid/crazy/hungry enough to actually do the work because of this calling. Many will do the work for money, for prestige, for approval, for a thousand other reasons and once they arrived at these fake destinations, they will halt. However, if you are the one that would keep going, eventually you will break through. Many people asked me this question, "Bronney, are you stupid? Do you know how competitive the photography business is?" I tell them, there's only competition if you're like the majority that's lazy. If you actually work hard and treat your profession with respect and discipline, there's actually zero competition. There are few people that would push like you, and when you are the few, there's only 1 you. If you give up, you will still be a photographer, one of the 85%. Whatever you're doing, I hope you find your way. And don't give up!
@johnswaim3919
@johnswaim3919 4 жыл бұрын
Paint from the love of doing it. Otherwise, if it is such a burden, consider where you want to be if you're alive in 10 or however many years hence.
@FishingtonBurpPuzzle
@FishingtonBurpPuzzle 4 жыл бұрын
No, work of quality like that sells. As long as the artist keeps going. In his case he is incredibly prepared as you heard. This is not just copying. This is painting which goes far beyond photographic imaging.
@Myrslokstok
@Myrslokstok 4 жыл бұрын
May tought dont show pictures when talking about painting 🖼 then I get it ok it is painting, sick! And they make them with a stick with some hair at the top and some oil-blobbs.
@mazza4190
@mazza4190 4 жыл бұрын
Technically excellent. Cold.
@anthonytaylor9232
@anthonytaylor9232 4 жыл бұрын
I feel what your say!
@anthonytaylor9232
@anthonytaylor9232 4 жыл бұрын
My Professional Mentor taught me the use of watercolours. My particular bag is to 'go for' the impression, in whatever subject, just whatever 'moves' me. Colin, my mentor, also teaches SERIOUS Botanical art studies to students. To Colin, I always Jokingly refer to his Botanical works as 'Anal Retentive', he takes the joke, in good part. However, he did tell me that he once told his class of Mature Botanical students of my reference to Anal Retentives --- Not one student smiled, let alone laughed! OH, dear! Peace.
@bossHogOG
@bossHogOG 4 жыл бұрын
Your mother’s twat was colder the day you were born.
@jeroendesterke5917
@jeroendesterke5917 4 жыл бұрын
Why TF is everyone so obsessed with hyper-realism in art? I used to do just that, but moved on. These guys keep on going full circle.
@JC117studios
@JC117studios 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone appreciates when a lot of time is put into something. It's the idea of "the grind" that people praise. But saying hes stuck in a loop is silly. He uses photoshopped to create his compositions, not just a single photo. He still puts a ton of creativity into his work. If the brush strokes in the paintings were more visible, would that really be growth? Not downplaying traditional or abstract painting, just saying that it sounds silly to say hyperrealism is hindering his creativity.
@strizhi6717
@strizhi6717 4 жыл бұрын
Wow lost for words
@ficationsare6552
@ficationsare6552 4 жыл бұрын
If only there were some type of mechanism that replicated an exact image, perhaps using some sort of shutter device.
@anetajohnson8446
@anetajohnson8446 4 жыл бұрын
I call myself an average artist! I wouldent have the patience to do that kind of work. by the time id finish it, id be a two years older! i had the privilege of viewing an original Norman Rockwell painting , and was amazed at the realisium he painted in.no wonder he became famous! Id like to see more of your compleated work, Patrick! Y our Famous!!! .
@garydistephano7093
@garydistephano7093 4 жыл бұрын
How much are your paintings
@charlestaylor6279
@charlestaylor6279 4 жыл бұрын
I can understand that many would say, "Well, you could just take a photograph and that would be just as good" And in a way a photo is good enough for many people. We all see so many image morning noon and night that we have to see something that's really interesting or unusual before we give it a second glance Therefore as an artist myself the first thing I think of "Will it sell" and then can I make it interesting in some way that the customer will pay me for it And then I think if I can knock it out in a week or less then I'll charge 5,000 Baht and that will pay my rent for a month here in Thailand. Yes, I know that's a terrible way to have to think when you're an artist. But many if not most of us can't afford the luxury of taking 300 hours on a painting cos nobody here is ever going to cough up the sort of money I need to stay alive and in one piece They don't care how dedicated I am, they want it fast and cheap. I've Thai friends here who're superb artists. They've the patience of saint to do some of the work they do on a regular basis. But the same guys can do a bloody good portrait in no time at all Kind regards and good luck to you all - Chris in Thailand go2ssff@gmail.com
@suntzu6122
@suntzu6122 4 жыл бұрын
What is in the container at 2:16
@Wexexx
@Wexexx 4 жыл бұрын
Probably paint thinner?
@James-tc6nv
@James-tc6nv 4 жыл бұрын
"His delineation of beauty was that which the eye cannot blame and the soul does not acknowledge" - From Zanoni by Bulwer Lytton
@Skywalker52Blocks
@Skywalker52Blocks 4 жыл бұрын
That girl falling was dope af
@stephenthomason5983
@stephenthomason5983 4 жыл бұрын
You are a reborn Master... Welcome.
@atrioberlyn9151
@atrioberlyn9151 4 жыл бұрын
Incrível.
@exert2020
@exert2020 4 жыл бұрын
Nice...but could have shown more of his work
@tselone
@tselone 4 жыл бұрын
Fucking dope!!
@blahuhm6782
@blahuhm6782 4 жыл бұрын
check out his website for some more interesting examples... I dunno why they chose this relatively simple photograph, he often does more elaborate/creative stuff.
@djhutchison
@djhutchison 4 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm not seen what separates this from Photo-realism... Subject matter? Level of detail?
@mail2shail2008
@mail2shail2008 4 жыл бұрын
He is rich by his skill..its painful to be so dedicative by a profession n running a normal life..
@collinsakahara6991
@collinsakahara6991 8 жыл бұрын
this is my uncal
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 4 жыл бұрын
Collin Sakahara - What’s an uncal?
@callumcowan7047
@callumcowan7047 4 жыл бұрын
@@dorianphilotheates3769 Dorian Philotheates thought, I know, I'll try to mock somebody's spelling in a 4 year old comment. That will make me feel better about myself.
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 4 жыл бұрын
Callum Cowan - Four years is the bare minimum - I’m an antiquarian. And I wasn’t mocking; the whole “uncal” thing really threw me for a loop: I thought perhaps it was some new ‘techie’ term.
@stuartoneill2663
@stuartoneill2663 4 жыл бұрын
Could have shown some of his paintings
@donmiller2908
@donmiller2908 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of whining you could have googled "Art of Patrick Kramer" and you'd have been directed to www.patrickkramerart.com where you'd see his paintings.
@sinochopin
@sinochopin 4 жыл бұрын
@@donmiller2908 He could've been giving an advise to the video editor. Don't give assumptions too qucikly bro.
@donmiller2908
@donmiller2908 4 жыл бұрын
@@sinochopin - "He could've been giving an advise to the video editor. Don't give assumptions too qucikly bro." You're correct and I apologize.
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what his miniatures would end up looking like if he collected wargaming miniatures
@devinmichaelroberts9954
@devinmichaelroberts9954 4 жыл бұрын
if you actually pu8ll up his work it's not photorealism at all.. its very realistic but within that you can see his own style which wouldn't be the case if her were just a painter copying photos. Fantastic work!
@manuelper
@manuelper 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible work, but why would someone buy a painting that looks exactly like a photograph and pay x$$ more for the painting?
@ziadbassaj7761
@ziadbassaj7761 4 жыл бұрын
Manuel Perez why? Because it took 300 hours to create. Not few seconds of a finger click.
@SauerGustavo
@SauerGustavo 4 жыл бұрын
@@ziadbassaj7761 that makes absolutely no sense. Just because someone spent thousands of hours on something doesnt mean it has value for somebody else...
@enchamade8
@enchamade8 4 жыл бұрын
SauerGustavo ...and if it doesn't have value to that somebody else, it will have value to a different somebody else. I loathe abstract paintings, and would never purchase one. A good friend of mine prefers only colorful abstract paintings; hence, they're valuable to him.
@kwissdaddy9258
@kwissdaddy9258 4 жыл бұрын
Because they find value in it. Simple.
@ziadbassaj7761
@ziadbassaj7761 4 жыл бұрын
enchamade8 thank you
@101multimedia
@101multimedia 4 жыл бұрын
As a realist painter, I’m aware of the bias from ‘artist’ that paint from there “experiences” or “imagination” and constantly belittle works of realism. Whenever an artist says, “ oh yeah, I used to paint realism but now I’m strictly into Impressionism and abstract”, my curiosity peaks. When pressed to see their previous realism work, it usually looks like a 2nd grade child’s painting. The old argument of taking a photograph is the same as realism is ludicrous and demeaning. Photo realism is every bit unique from painter to painter as all the photographers that shoot the same subject matter over and over. Why is Ansel Adams photos considered superior to other photographers work. Why...because he had his own unique idea of composition, light and contrast. As individuals we all see images differently. And thus, if we are painting what we ‘see’, it will be uniquely different. I’m personally tired of Monet ‘want-to-be’s’. Usually when an ‘artist’ can’t even paint Impressionism well, they resort to all out chaos and abstract work. And they usually look like the same painting over and over. Get over it and develop some skills and discipline. I suppose one of these days a 3-D printer creation will eventually make a Michelangelo sculpture comparison an argument made by lesser skilled artisans as well.
@toddorr4559
@toddorr4559 4 жыл бұрын
Is this for real ?
@gregtegreg
@gregtegreg 4 жыл бұрын
- Look at that painting.. - It’s a photo. - No it’s a painting! - Ok so this painting tells me... what? - It’s perfect!! - You mean like a photo? 🤷‍♀️
@JC117studios
@JC117studios 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're downplaying this guys skill and passion. Photoshop helps him create the composition like a sketchbook. It's not just one photo. And people react differently to art. Maybe someone got something nostalgic from the sailboat painting. But if that's not enough, then let me ask, a banana taped to a wall supposed to tell me... what?
@gregtegreg
@gregtegreg 4 жыл бұрын
JC117studios well you feel my comment wrong. I do not judge his skill and passion at all. The style is bugging me. When I hear about a painting, I expect something “artsy” - meaning an original point of view of a human being, something that makes me think “ah interesting how he/she thought to express...”, you know? Here you can’t see that because it’s photographic so you admire only the image but you can’t see the “signature” of the artist. Again, because it’s so photo like. Anyhow art is subjective in the end and this my thinking but I do not downplay his passion at all.
@JC117studios
@JC117studios 4 жыл бұрын
@@gregtegreg ​ ui method I understand where you're coming from. A van gogh painting is very unique and can be recognized without a signature. With that said, look at any era of painting like baroque or renaissance, and the paintings will look very similar due to technique. Unless studied to a T, a regular person can't tell the difference between a rembrandt or peter paul ruben painting. its a style learned by the artists of the era. Hyperrealism is its own style. The whole photo argument bugs me because it says that the skill put into it is wasted. Not only that, but how would a more brush stroke heavy image change the mood? Look at the boat image in the video, would more texture in the fog really make the overcast feel different? Would a more gestural stroke in the water add more to the peaceful nature? It comes down to the artists goal. Ill admit, someone may look at a more expressive painting and think its not as good as the hyperrealistic one. To that, I would make the same argument on whether it would really change the mood. Like you said, when you look at a painting you go in looking for something artsy, while someone else in the general public may go to a gallery and will look for something that they can't replicate. Like a lot of things, it comes down to intent.
@gregtegreg
@gregtegreg 4 жыл бұрын
JC117studios Let me ask you this: where is the artist’s truth? He copies to perfection everything, right? Where is he in this endeavour? In the painted copy? No, in his skill and passion. Ok then, let me see a hyper piece from his head at the same level. He can’t execute it because his style is “copy what his eyes can see”. For me this is zero because the real piece is the photo. So if you think about it for a minute, you’ll see that, that banana on the wall has more meaning 🤔 (btw when I saw that banana thing I laughed first then I thought “well this can be a shout out to the silly contemporary crap that is everywhere nowadays” and it satisfied me. I don’t care what the meaning really is, for me it presented a message, so it worked.) I believe you loose yourself too much in the details that you forget about the message, the only thing that matters. The message in his art? “Don’t buy a photo but my copy of that photo because is hand painted” - well I’m not a robot, I want more! Here’s a small exercise: draw an angry face using hyperrealism - easy, find an angry face photo and copy it = done. (I know a guy that reached the hyper level in 5 years and now he is a copy machine artist. Just make sure to send him photos of what the paining should be!) Now do it ... in abstract. Not so easy now, is it? < becaaaause this requires creativity and imagination and... an artistic mind. I’m not going into the baroque/renaissance comment simply because those painting styles are at a whole different level.
@JC117studios
@JC117studios 4 жыл бұрын
@@gregtegreg when I brought up the eras, it was meant to point out the idea of uniqueness in a technique, a signature. And you act like no one can mimic those styles. Not saying one is tougher than the other. Also, the argument of buy my copy not the photo doesnt work because he still creates a compositions by combining stuff together. You can't buy the single photo. He uses his knowledge of composition, color, and so on to create a consistent painting. They are still getting something unique. "For me this is zero because the real piece is in the photo?" Really? So the amount of hours to perfect using the medium is worthless because of that? That makes your earlier statement about "not judging his skill" sound like bs. In regards to abstract. That can mean so much. Hell, there are artists who literally just zoom in on a published picture and call it finished. And really? You looked at the banana and didnt care about the meaning but liked the message? What does that mean? If it has a meaning, then it's trying to say something or send a message. why does a banana get a pass on meaning, but hyperealism has to mean something? If you love this type of art, then please explain the meaning? What am I not getting? I thinks it's because people into abstract differ from those into realism. You want something unique while people like me admire the dedication to master the medium. You're right, anyone with dedication get do realism, but you ignore the hours it takes to get there. And others will write off abstract because it looks dumb in there opinion, despite how different it looks from what you referenced. I'm not gonna pretend like all fine art is shit. I get it. But I'm just pointing out the danger of ignoring visible skill because it isnt unique. That borders on pretentiousness.
@101perspective
@101perspective 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised people can get paid to do this. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely a skill. However, if I needed a realistic picture of a boat dock then I would... well, go take a picture of it. If I wanted it slightly different then I would toss it into photoshop... just like this guy is doing anyway. That said, if I wanted a decoration for my wall I would prefer a painting. Though, I wouldn't want it to look so realistic that people wouldn't realize right away that it is a painting and not just a picture. That's me though. He's clearly making a living so there must be someone buying them.
@martineden05
@martineden05 4 жыл бұрын
Je respecte énormément votre technique impressionnante, mais pour moi l art produit une émotion quand il y a de l expression, ici je ne vois pas d expression mais uniquement de la reproduction parfaite de la réalité. Pour moi en art, l expression vient du décalage volontaire que l artiste met entre sa création et la réalité, comme Modigliani par exemple.... Je ne comprends pas le but de l hyper réalisme à une époque où on peut prendre une photo parfaite en une seconde avec un téléphone.. Qu en pensez vous ? Je ne dis pas que j ai raison, j expose juste un point de vue..
@alicedell8595
@alicedell8595 4 жыл бұрын
Save yourself a lot of time: forget painting and just take good photos!
@cornfednebraskaneer
@cornfednebraskaneer 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I appreciate photorealism, but ultimately, the painting is only as good as the reference.
@viper1390mail
@viper1390mail 4 жыл бұрын
He's like a camera only slower
@anthonymccarthy4164
@anthonymccarthy4164 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get why you wouldn't just take a picture but if it's what you want to do and your audience likes it, great. I prefer Jack Levine and Hyman Bloom, myself.
@johnswaim3919
@johnswaim3919 4 жыл бұрын
That is exactly why you dont get it.
@anthonymccarthy4164
@anthonymccarthy4164 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnswaim3919 What's to get? If your goal is to recreate a photograph in paint,that's a mere technical, not an artistic intention. You could make a printer that prints in oil paint on a primed canvas do the same thing. If your goal is to tell more about the subject than a photograph would, you wouldn't do it by trying to reproduce what a camera would show you.
@meta4282
@meta4282 4 жыл бұрын
He's a printer.
@zazen108
@zazen108 4 жыл бұрын
In this video he states that what he is doing isn't a creative process its just a matter of putting in the hours. Why turn yourself into a human printer? What is the point? If you already have the photograph what are you doing?
@mikekeenanphd
@mikekeenanphd 4 жыл бұрын
He said he did the creative work before he started painting. He didn't say there was no creative process. Many artists do the creative work by sketching out a first draft. Is this radically different?
@zazen108
@zazen108 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikekeenanphd He starts with a photograph. So the image is already made. Why copy it?
@leftpastsaturn67
@leftpastsaturn67 4 жыл бұрын
@@zazen108 Why not?
@zazen108
@zazen108 4 жыл бұрын
@@leftpastsaturn67 If you already have the photo, it doesn't make sense to spend hours making something indistinguishable from the photo.
@leftpastsaturn67
@leftpastsaturn67 4 жыл бұрын
@@zazen108 It doesn't make sense to you. It makes perfect sense to plenty of others.
@amfam100
@amfam100 4 жыл бұрын
Something about the way he mixed his paint at the beginning pissed me off beyond believe!!! Idk why?
@amfam100
@amfam100 4 жыл бұрын
BOSS MAN not taking it to save money for TP
@AD-jq7ow
@AD-jq7ow 4 жыл бұрын
But the paint at the end didn't look hyperrealistic though...
@paulmcgreevy3011
@paulmcgreevy3011 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work but can something that appears to be a photograph make a living for the artist? Art surely needs to capture a mood or tell a story or present a theme or convey something abstract. Maybe combining artistic images with hyper real in the same picture would inspire much interest.
@marian-gabriel9518
@marian-gabriel9518 4 жыл бұрын
Where does this thing of art needing to have something funky about it to be art, come from?!?! The thing with realism is that it's precisely not real...there are this minute variations of the little things that compose the piece that represent the way the painter sees reality and is unique to every one of us. And to see them come together to fool us to think it is a picture of objective reality, when in fact it is not, also speaks of how we, as the viewer, see reality and how we can be fooled by aproximations of it. This kind of art is for the brain not for the heart...not everything boils down to warm fuzzies and emotions. On the other hand...if you grasp what I'm on about...it will ultimatelly move you in some way as all mental processes do, in that we see a glimpse of how imperfect our senses are and we as individuals. That is a strong and humbling emotion that we ever so rarely have these days in respect to how little we actually see of this majestic place we call reality...
@paulmcgreevy3011
@paulmcgreevy3011 4 жыл бұрын
ArChAnGeLl 987 ...... when you look out of the window and enjoy the sea view that’s wonderful. An artist can capture that view with simple shapes and vibrant colours without all that actual fine detail and can convey the joy and beauty of it through his or her interpretation of it. Some artists have a special talent to do that and inspire the viewer with their style or with their ability to include symbolism to convey emotion or reflect something that is going on in society at that time. There is more to art than reproducing an exact image. Many artists would not have the ability to produce hyper real art but I would say most art lovers are looking for style over substance so presumably the market favours the style. Maybe a combination of the two would be the ideal. There quite a number of hyper real artists around these days. The problem is if you put them all in front of a vase of flowers they would all produce the exact same image. People want something original.
@richardleonard9140
@richardleonard9140 6 жыл бұрын
F
@jackpetersen7231
@jackpetersen7231 4 жыл бұрын
It's impressing, but never really understood why people make hyperrealistic paintings. you could just get a photo scaled. i would rather have something more abstract and realistic at the same time. Give it some charme with your own style
@harshadk4595
@harshadk4595 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody should judge others' art.. No one's stopping you from reaching his level of artistic mastery.. Thanks.
@David-nk7pv
@David-nk7pv 4 жыл бұрын
@@harshadk4595 why shouldn't I judge art?
@jackpetersen7231
@jackpetersen7231 4 жыл бұрын
Harshad K I’m not judging, I just don’t understand
@harshadk4595
@harshadk4595 4 жыл бұрын
@@David-nk7pv can you give an example of how you judge art? You believe you are better at it than the other person as you've achieved that level of success/ mastery in your work? What's your position when you judge?you may or may not find something per your taste, and that's understandable. Maybe you wanted to convey the same that you sometimes may not like what you see.. Anyway happy painting!
@harshadk4595
@harshadk4595 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackpetersen7231 glad you're not.. we all have our own way of expressing and if someone finds solace in this way.. so be it.. who am i to say it's not the way..thank you.
@devandestudios128
@devandestudios128 4 жыл бұрын
Okay yes, hyperrealistic paintings are indeed beautiful art, of both technique and skill, but where's the creativity in it?
@denisl2760
@denisl2760 4 жыл бұрын
If he's making an exact copy of a photograph or real life scene, yeah not much creativity just technical skill. But to paint something that looks realistic just based on an idea in your head? If that's not creativity I don't know what is.
@kirtg1
@kirtg1 4 жыл бұрын
Some very stunning work, check out his website patrickkramerart.com
@starlord2112
@starlord2112 4 жыл бұрын
Can't see the point but great skill nonetheless.
@cirovallone889
@cirovallone889 4 жыл бұрын
Questa non è Arte, è fotografia
@johnswaim3919
@johnswaim3919 4 жыл бұрын
Vaffanculo.
@cirovallone889
@cirovallone889 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnswaim3919 ricambio
@harshadk4595
@harshadk4595 4 жыл бұрын
..every good artist no matter how good speaks of struggling for a living...galleries always want to sell bygone artists' works - artist gets nothing..what is happening here..!?
@notnek202
@notnek202 4 жыл бұрын
Finally real art is starting to come back after the disaster of the 20th century.
@mrartboy1
@mrartboy1 4 жыл бұрын
Yep...Pop Art I think you are alluding to...I still like airbrush work but it all lies in the eye of the beholder I suppose !!
@corvusdelicti8853
@corvusdelicti8853 4 жыл бұрын
Kenton202 Dumb ass comment from someone who probably doesn't get out much.
@awildtomappeared5925
@awildtomappeared5925 4 жыл бұрын
@@corvusdelicti8853 impressionism is the disaster of the 20th century he is refering to, it includes pieces like a banana on a wall and a woman shooting paint-filled eggs out of her vaginia onto a canvas, if thats your fetish then fair enough but dont bash others for preferring paintings by the masters of the renaissance and enlightenment
@notnek202
@notnek202 4 жыл бұрын
tubetardism 20/20 no it’s art. Photography you use a camera.
@notnek202
@notnek202 4 жыл бұрын
Corvus Delicti typically response from a bitter failed artist. You probably believe “piss Christ” was great art.
@marcelvrska9162
@marcelvrska9162 4 жыл бұрын
I do not see the soul
@robertcook2680
@robertcook2680 4 жыл бұрын
There's no taking away from Patrick's skill...but what point is there in recreating photographs? Where is the artistry? I know that Photorealism as a movement in painting was born back in the 1960s, and perhaps there was a point to it then, when abstract art was still holding on while Pop Art was also in its heyday. However, today, photorealistic painting is quite common, and lacking in irony or other larger artistic purposes that spurred the form's originators to pursue such work. Photography flattens reality; painters working from life impose their own unique perceptions of what they're looking at on the paintings they're making. Recreating photographs amounts to little more than high-level paint-by-numbers. The artist's unique perception is excluded. Patrick is young, and hopefully he will push forward and develop into other ways of painting--not to say he will or should abandon representational art--but perhaps he will start to paint from life situations, or from his imagination.
@notnek202
@notnek202 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Cook you just want him to paint your way.
@awildtomappeared5925
@awildtomappeared5925 4 жыл бұрын
@tubetardism 20/20 better than 'this is photography'
@awildtomappeared5925
@awildtomappeared5925 4 жыл бұрын
​@RakeRocter firstly, you cant match colours from paint to a projection ffs, especially while the projection is on the area your painting, he will just use a print to check the colours. Secondly, he dude fully explains that all the creative process takes place before the painting, in the photo composition and editing, its the same creative process of photography but with the added skill, labour and creative decision to paint it in hyper-realism, nobody is saying its comparable to a Sargent painting ffs, why dont you rant at everybody who takes photos and calles that art? oh yeha you dont do that because there are alot of people doing that, but not many people doing this, thereby making this much more original and therby creative. The whole point of art is that everybody has their own definition, thats what the word 'subjective' means, people have taken this so far that there is a woman who pushed paint filled eggs out of her vigina onto a canvas in public and called it art... are you really gonna choose this hill to die on?
@awildtomappeared5925
@awildtomappeared5925 4 жыл бұрын
@RakeRocter colour matching in such detail is not easy what so ever, our mids play so many tricks on us with colours, besides as I said he stated that there isnt much creativity in the painting, who are you arguing? and if its so easy to paint in such detail do it yourself, oh wait you cant because it takes years of practice
@awildtomappeared5925
@awildtomappeared5925 4 жыл бұрын
@RakeRocter tell that to every photographer ever, again, he literally explains how all the creative process is in the photo composition and editing,
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