KEF Wireless Range Overview: LSX II, LS50 Wireless II & LS60

[@harrisedgar]

wonderful... Finally I could hear the 3 of them and compare.

[@mndlessdrwer]

I mean, the LS60 are certainly the best of that lineup, but they also cost $7k USD, which is, well, a lot. They're convenient because you don't have any additional receiver or amplifier to deal with, which saves you money, in a way, and they sound fantastic even without a sub, which isn't something I can say for the LS50 and LSX series, which are competent but still require additional bass reinforcement. Basically, of this lineup, the only speaker I'd be interested in owning would be the LS60. Personally, though, I'd probably just buy something else and a streaming amp so I don't need to bother with wireless active speakers, but I understand that not everyone is as willing to keep around a large amplifier to power their speakers. The LS60 are also the ultimate in minimalist design, so they are ideally suited for people who have a mid-century modern minimalist design and want to have as few large electronic boxes cluttering up their furniture as possible. I know people love the LSX series and LS50 Wireless series, but every time I've heard them I've been disappointed. They just have more treble gain than I can handle given the amount of bass they put out. They aren't nearly as ice-pick like as some of B&W stuff or Klipsche stuff can be, but they're far more fatiguing compared to the LS60, which are tuned quite a lot more like my current speakers, which are the KEF iQ90 from the early 2000's. Apparently they can't do what they did for the LS60 in any smaller of an enclosure, though, since the DSP is already required to cope with the lack of cabinet space for the four high-excursion Uni-Core drivers (two paired drivers, four effective drivers). So an LS50 with Uni-core drivers will never happen, unfortunately.

[@rj7263]

Nice video, great quality well done! Just bought second hand LS50W ii with matching stands. LS60 was the plan but my wife really did not like them in our living room. The 50's on stands in satin white she likes. Plan is to sell all Sonos surround set up and go for the KC62 sub.

[@rj7263]

@@Shishiku91 got the KC62 second hand added to the LS50W II. The integration is really good and easy to set up. This is my 5th sub and only the Monitor audio 15" DSP (huge sub) controlled had more oempf... The KC62 is really a tiny object and is more then enough powerful and sounds very musical. For electronic music I have to dial it down 6dB, way too much and deep bass on standard setting.

[@fortyfour1654]

​@@rj7263Is there the option to run 2 subs with the ls50Wii ?

[@turreu]

Great video. You can get the original LS50s for cheap on the used market. I bought pair for 500 euros. And I got a deal on a 1500 euro Roksan K3 for 500 euros. Then I bought a Chord Mojo DAC for 200 euros. Overall I think it's a superb system for around 1000 euros.

[@MagDag_]

Why do you need an amplifier for the active speakers?

[@turreu]

@@MagDag_ Original LS50 are passive.

[@MagDag_]

@@turreu got you. Thanks

[@handyward7559]

have got the lsx and ls50 , for near field listening the lsx i think are just as good as the ls50 , i use lsx with computer .... i use a kanto sub with lsx and svs 3000 micro with ls50 meta ...

[@manuelrobledo5106]

I have the Kef wireless 2s with a Single Kc62 sub,for my Home office.They sound Good .Eventually I might put them in my master bedroom.

[@ErnieBerckman]

LS60’s with a C62 powered subwoofer in a huge room and 20 ft tall ceiling. That’s my stereo. I use an Apple iPad and Tidal Connect. Wireless. Rock solid. In fact they play any genre with spectacular accuracy. Tidal premium gets you access to millions of choices of music. They are 1m away from back wall and 1m from side surface which are windows. Approx 10-15 degree toe in. Perfect

[@bibleredpill]

What might be your choice between 50 with a sub or the 60 without a sub?

[@preparationisthekeytosucce4682]

I've come across the LS60 wireless speakers, which have peaks in the range of 200Hz and 4.5-5.5kHz. the LSX II is better in this way

[@youclement8124]

Loool 😂

[@Truthspeaking]

Is the LS50 Wireless II seriously this much better sounding than LS60, also in real life? I love the openness of the vocals compared to the LSX II and LS60. I own and listen to this video through a pair of LSX II and can clearly hear a huge difference between LS50WII and the other two. If this is how they actually sound, I think LS50WII is way better than the LS60.

[@Truthspeaking]

I have listend to these both in a HiFi-store and LS60 is better for larger rooms. It plays more high res in total in terms of details, but what I noticed the second I started listening go the LS50WII was: they should have put the LS50WII tweeter on the LS60 for creating a perfekt speaker.. They use the same tweeter as the LSX II on the front as I understand it on the LS60, which was one of the reasons I wasnt blown away with the LS60, even though they were very good. Also, the room in which the LS60 was played was rather hugh and open, yet it had no problems at all filling the room even at lower volymes (under 50 % volume). So the amps in LS60 makes it play more detailed than LS50WII, but the tweeter is better in the LS50WII. I could hear it in the more open vocals from singers, though not at all as clear as in the video above. LS50WII sounded hollow/ strained/screechy on louder volume than 50 % in that huge room it stood when I compared it with the LS60. At home in a smaller room, they both might sound different and (both of them) better.

[@carloscosta3514]

I have the LS50W!! with the Kef C62 sub. I don't think the LS60 will sound much better than this.@@Truthspeaking

[@carloscosta3514]

I have the LS50W!! with the Kef C62 sub. I don't think the LS60 will sound much better than this.

[@anzhuliu]

@@carloscosta3514 it doesn't. I listened to all 3 today. Ls50 and ls60 sound the same in the open store...lsx sounds like crap. I actually like the kef c62 sub better than the kef 92. More controlled bass. I got the Ls50 wii for $2600 CAD , kef c62 for $1800 CAD. new

[@ThinkingBetter]

LSX 2 with subwoofer will beat LS50 w2 without subwoofer in sub bass performance. But how else will it compare?

[@alexeynikolaevich9741]

2 track is the best in sound on ls50 wireless 2.

[@Natan9000]

I wonder, why the speakers are so close to the wall? When all the “information” states speakers shouldn’t be close to the wall. Is this just “shop display position”?

[@smarthomesounds]

Yes some of the shots are for display and B-roll purposes. However KEF do have an option in the app if you have your speakers positioned close to the wall as they understand this may be the best solution for some spaces. Hope this helps.

[@aaroncrisp838]

Hi if I buy the LSX II will i need to K-Stream Interpeaker cable?. Is there any delay on the 2nd speak throw the Bluetooth?. Just beacuse i listen to alot of dance music. Thankyou for your help.

[@alexeynikolaevich9741]

What is the track in the beginning of the test?

[@MrJerefinn]

Valante - Funky socks

[@JaimetheNomad]

Seeing these all side by side is very helpful! I just ordered the LS50 wII for a desktop but really starting to think I might repurpose them and get the LSX for the desktop (computer workstation) simply due to physical size.

[@JetskiDex]

Thank you so much, for such an amazing video. This is excellent!!

[@djstreet11]

what is better "kef lsx II" or "harman kardon citation duo mkiii" ?

[@eduardoluna236]

Product is great true but Customer Service is the worst I ever had to face in France, months to get KEF LSX repaired and still waiting with a very poor communication quality, arguing the component shortage but at the same time selling massively, it just don't make sense. Be aware if you are willing to buy any KEF product, you will certainly be disappointed despite the excellent quality of the product.

[@BillyHell01]

I brought the LSX II with the stands for just under $3000 - I have never heard them because the App set up just stops at step 4 - So pretty much Fncked.

[@dobrescubogdan5740]

LS 50 W2 sounds better than LS60 W2 in tes of medium and high frecvency . Amd If you add a SUB the sound of LS 50 W2 is brilliant. I compared also on vinyl sound . LS 50 W2 all the day especially if you compare the lrice tag . Can you confirm this ?

[@Natan9000]

Are the ls50w2 made of wood and do they sound warm? I really like Sonos but not the “harsh sound”..

[@themrgumbatron]

Very nice complete review of the wireless range

[@badger748]

When will the LS60 be in stock and ready for purchase ?? (In grey!)

[@smarthomesounds]

Hi Lee, the LS60 are coming in Autumn 2022. You can pre-order a grey pair from our website now for first stock allocation when they arrive later this year. Hope this helps!

[@badger748]

@@smarthomesounds I guess so but autumn is sept - Dec that’s before any delays. So I could hand over £6k and then you sit on it for however long ….

[@smarthomesounds]

@@badger748 We can take a fully refunndable 10% deposit to hold stock as we appreciate these are an expensive items with no set delivery time frame. If this is of interest you can get in touch with one of our agents and they will set this up for you.

[@israndy]

Mine took a while to arrive, turns out they had been placed aboard a ship that kept having to wait to get to port, but that was a couple of months ago now, hopefully everyone has their LS60s now. I got serial number around 1700

[@Bakingways]

Hi. I am looking to upgrade my naim muso 1st generation to a better system. I listen to pop music, deep house and some rock. The room is medium size. What would you recommend? LSX Ii with sub or LS50S without? Which Sub? Many thanks

[@nirbendler8561]

Lsx are great but you will have to add a sub to support them

[@55afishead]

Go with the LSX 2 with the Kef Kube 8b. You will love it!

[@Bakingways]

@@55afishead Thanks

[@eGazTheFirstAustralian]

Please please! Where is your looonnnggg awaited review of the Sony X90K 65? How long will you keep us waiting?

[@pontusodqvist4657]

I own the LS 50 WII and are very satisfied. But, I would also consider the Dynaudio Focus 30 if I were to upgrade. One issue with the KEF speaker is the Wifi connection that is not what you would expect when buying either of this three. Hence the interest in Focus 30. Any thoughts?

[@yuzhouxie9394]

Sorry what is the issue with wifi connection? You did not elaborate.

[@pontusodqvist4657]

@@yuzhouxie9394 The speakers drops out, sometimes it takes a long time to hook up to the wifi after a restart, one speaker loses connection for a few seconds and then comes back sometimes many times during a listening session. Many issues that comes and goes, irritating for sure. However I am very happy for the speakers when it comes to the sound. I would consider upgrading to the LS 60 but I would also consider the Focus 30 and see how they perform not just soundwise. Sonos does not have these wifi issues at all but are not an alternative for me.

[@yuzhouxie9394]

@@pontusodqvist4657 Thanks for the information

[@cdbeen123]

is there any way to incorporate a centre channel speaker with any of these ?

[@smarthomesounds]

Unfortunately there is no current support for that.

[@gizmo9234]

Thanks, dude.

[@sparkplug964]

I'm just wondering what the life span of these speaker are, most apps lose support after 5-6 years with new model updates, with the LS60 being £6K, that seem like a very expensive paper weight for that time span?

[@fredarthur-art]

I wonder about that too. Got the Beoplay A9 MKII and heard the MK1 already lost spotify connect support, Spotify Connect being one of the main reasons I would be interested in something like the KEF LS50 II but if that support is not guaranteed, the purchase makes no sense.

[@mikechivy]

That’s a really weak argument. You could treat them like 99 percent of other speakers and connect them via a cable. Shoot, even use an external wireless streamer via optical or coax.

[@chrishalle1982]

yeah but non of the speakers has an integrated sub woofer.

[@danielinsunza4048]

Which one do you recommend? These lsx II or Sonos arc with their biggest sub ?

[@cesar270192]

Lsx ii, and add a Klipsch R100SW subwoofer for only $250USD

[@hubbajubba]

Kef ls5 only with kc62 but then the price the same like ls60

[@alexeynikolaevich9741]

Lsx 2.model sounds more compressed, it seems.

[@kevin1889]

Had kef lsx it sounded better than my kef ls50 wireless 2

[@tobiaspabst5524]

Lsx II sounding better than ls50 wireless II? You serious?

[@kevin1889]

The mid range in kef lsx was far better. The 3d stereo imaging is better in the lsx. Treble is better in ls 50. The base is not clean in the ls 50 II. Add a sub to both makes a huge difference. But adding a sub to kef ls50 2 requires a lot of effort which is not there in the lsx which is got a weaker base but it is cleaner

[@vvmaster2010]

LS50 wireless II sound better than LS60

[@youclement8124]

😂😂😂

[@Birmingham_racing]

Don't do drugs

[@laurentinhk]

I feel they were more clear and presence than 60 indeed

[@hubbajubba]

No, they don't. Even with kc62. I listened both on real.

[@yelnatsch517]

Does anyone else think the LS50 sound better than the LS60 or just me?

[@CaptainCrunch823]

Not surprising. KEF chose to go with the tiny driver from the LSX in the LS60.

[@israndy]

@@CaptainCrunch823 But then they added woofers, so that speaker is only a mid on the LS60s

[@paulburton9904]

Do you know anything about speakers 😂😂😂😂​@@CaptainCrunch823

[@markwhitehead6965]

Not sure what you mean by digital amplification. Class D does NOT mean digital.

[@idray986]

DSP, digital signal processing

[@eduardoluna236]

Soon 4 months waiting for my speakers repair, high quality product but very poor after sales quality, very disappointing

[@KenBlive]

So the LSX 11 brags about 24bit 384khz but downsamples it to a maximum 24/96khz - poor

[@mikechivy]

Luckily the speaker isn’t good enough for you to ever tell the difference…

[@KenBlive]

@@mikechivybecause of this I plumped for the Q Acoustics 3020i with the upcoming WiiM Amp for over half the retail cost of the LSX - Kef/What Hi Fi all remain silent on the issue 😮

[@mikechivy]

@@KenBlive the Kef LSX II is a better speaker than the 3020i by a decent margin. The nearly impossible difference to hear in sampling rates is much smaller than the difference of the actual speakers… kudos to saving money but you’re way over estimating hearing sampling rate differences vs the quality of a speaker…

[@KenBlive]

The issue for me is that the LSX is advertised that it can do hi res but maxes out at 96khz - Q Acoustics 3020i Is for my office set up and not critical listening 😉

[@mikechivy]

@@KenBlive anything over 16/44.1 is high res.

[@allandresner]

I have the LSX II, they are okay, but the remote is atrocious

[@K-Kratos]

ok

[@yuzhouxie9394]

I wish KEF would consider putting the touch controls of the LS50W on the front instead of top.

[@Natan9000]

No lol

[@cdbeen123]

why , much better on top

[@yuzhouxie9394]

@@cdbeen123 Can't see the mode it's in.

[@israndy]

I wish they'd put them on the LS60 at all, I have placed the remote on top of the one speaker in case I wanna change anything in a hurry, but buttons would be so much nicer, were they too expensive to put on a $7000 speaker??

[@VietHuynh-z3c]

The prod is fine, but the clip looks like a pain in the neck.

[@trun1979]

ls60 are not roon ready yet

[@TruthfulTimBjQueenOfSaskatoon]

Honestly sound demo sound shit in all 3 of them. Listening on HD800S.

[@mauriciolguin]

@Supre haha, what would be a good headphone for you?

[@mauriciolguin]

You should not expect a good sound comming from these kind of videos. It's only to show some differences

[@mauriciolguin]

@Supre unfortunately, I can't compare because I've never heard them.