We COMPARE the KEF LS60 Wireless to THREE *other* hi-fi systems

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0:00 A Legacy of Rentals
1:07 Living with the LS60 Wireless
4:03 Bring in the LS50 Meta + KC62
7:55 What about the LS50 Wireless II / room correction?
10:40 Klipsch Forte IV (slight return)
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[@DarkoAudio]

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[@electricsnut]

If by future, you mean throw away 10k tower speakers that will be superseded in 3yrs like the KEF LS50W were and cut off from updates… Thats assuming the amplifiers don’t die before then also.

[@JC.LC.]

What about the warranty on them? Because if remember correctly the LS50's only have 1 year warranty. In my opinion that's not enough, if KEF believes in their products then they need to show that to the consumer by offering longer warranties.

[@randomtube8226]

5 years for the speakers and 2 years for the electronics. Totally agree!

[@joesshows6793]

I have some KEF speakers from the 90s and they still POUND.

[@electricsnut]

@@joesshows6793 Your speakers from the 90s were far simpler and better built, seen quite a few LS50W on marketplace that have issues…

[@ggc7318]

Made in China ? Hmm...

[@dksculpture]

Just like iPhones. Not a problem if they’re well designed and QC is good.

[@fatphoca5009]

Now you can see how ahead of the game Meridian was decades ago.

[@jmtennapel]

I love how you pull the music into the reviews. It is about the music in the end 👍

[@maxamg1120]

Just such a wonderful review. Thoroughly enjoyed the 2 vids. I too am split between hifi building enthusiast and someone who just wants it all to work seamlessly. Thank you, John

[@mchrome3366]

Almost every great find of my library of electronic music over 50 years has been by DJ’s recommending artists on college radio so it’s been a special treat to add to my music and listen to your great reviews of audio gear at the same time. Thanks.

[@parthmadhubhai689]

I think we all are excited to hear an a700 vs ls60 comparison. My bet is on a700 but no comparison can be found yet unfortunately

[@TPQ1235]

Excellent review as usual John! Your team is my go-to source for information on all things high end audio, and one of my top 3 KZbin Channels.

[@azamayub]

Would love to see a future comparison with Buchardt A700 with its Primare bubdle

[@n815e]

I love the look of these, I love the concept. But original LS50 Wireless are maybe 6 years old and already their app is abandoned. $7k for a speaker system with designed obsolescence is not a great prospect.

[@jeancena8761]

That is nuts… what an embarrassing move of them.

[@bacon.dumpling]

I would think they had to abandon it because the limitation is not the app but the wireless hardware they built into these and the LSX. They “fixed” it with the LS50 Wireless II.

[@electricsnut]

@@bacon.dumpling So offer an upgrade path and swap out the amp modules.

[@ggc7318]

Made in China !!! Sorry KEF.

[@electricsnut]

@@morespinach9832 Yes but now you putting it all in one made in china device that is highly reliant upon streaming platforms and updates. KEF have already been proven they cannot be trusted with the first gen LS50 and META being cut off from updates not to mention seeing so many failing with stupid unfixable faults.

[@KenManheimer]

I really appreciate that you recognize and acknowledge the dichotomy between component choice and integrated systems. I have a similar take on it but with a slightly different framing that brings what I see as the crucial questions more specifically into focus. For context, in May of 2021 I got a pair of KEF LS50 Wireless II speakers, and in October I got a KEF KC 62. After around 40 years of separate (decent, particularly as time went by) components. I am *extremely* happy with this integrated system. The crucial point that I think is not adequately described by the dichotomy as you present it is that last bit of consonance that I feel was my motivation in sorting through combinations of components, searching for the best integration. It may be that some people come to enjoy the search for the best combination as a thing in itself, but I never lost sight of the urge to have the sound be as good as possible, whatever the avenue to get there. Along the way I may have found myself vacillating through different combinations of trade-offs, discovering that improving one aspect was at the cost of some other, or imagining that some variation improved something without a cost to anything else, or so on. But in the end, finding a really good combination was hard, and good integration between the components while getting the functionality I wanted was the goal. In reality, while I got pretty good results over (much) time, I didn't get near to the performance that the KEF LS50 wII + KC 62 gave me out of the box. It may be that the LS50 Metas plus the Hegel amp you recommend would get me much of the way there (or whichever other good fits one finds, as time goes by), or even a little further, but I have the sense that the benefits are way below the point of diminishing returns versus the good job of integration that KEF has done with their system(s) in a box. I was eagerly awaiting your review of the LS60 system, and am very happy with what you presented. It satisfied my curiosity, and I have to admit reassured me that the choice I made is just right for me. I don't have a big room or need for very very loud playing, and have the sense from what you said that the LS50 wII + KC62 integration from KEF does as good a job as I am going to find, giving me a mini version of the LS60 - maybe without some of the dynamics, and maybe not quite as well integrated as the single apparent source, total package that the LS60 offers, but pretty damn far in that direction. So, here are real thanks to you for doing the work to investigate and report with great (discernment) fidelity what the various options offer. You address the questions I have with alacrity and grace! Perhaps the intricacies of the sonic trade-offs and occasional epiphanies of peak combinations make the continuing exploration worthwhile, as a thing in itself, for you and other audiophiles, but this one is happy to have found stable and very decent ground on which to reside, apparently without significant sonic sacrifice, in so far as I can tell...

[@Unicorn-ST]

I really appreciate your comment because the most interesting comparación John could have done is just compare the LS60 with the LS50 WII + KC62. Cheaper solution, but with the possibility to integrate correctly, something no possible with the Hegel. Sincerely, I don’t understand why to obvious this comparation. I like the LS60 simplicity and efficiency than the LS50 + KC62, but is it really worth the price difference?

[@KenManheimer]

​@@Unicorn-ST I found it really interesting to hear in Darko's discussion with Jack Oclee Brown about the development of the LS60 that the KC62's Uni Core driver was actually designed as part of the LS60 effort. So the KC62 was kind of a spin-off from the LS60 project! What a nice spin-off! (I wonder whether the KEF engineers were pleasantly surprised by how effective the KC62 turned out to be?) Addressing "really worth the difference?" I would note that the LS60s come with four of the Uni Core driver pairs versus one Uni Core (pair) in the KC62. While the bass driver amps in the LS60 add up to the same power as the amp in the KC 62 (1000 watts RMS), that power will be distributed over four elements rather than one, which should mean _much_ greater headroom for loudness with less distortion. Furthermore, the Uni-Q driver in the LS60 is designed specifically for the context where it will not have to be taking on any low-bass responsibilities, while the driver in the LS50 had to be designed for wider frequency responsibilities (because the presence of a subwoofer could not be presumed). The more specialized design of the LS60 Uni-Q driver is bound to have some payoff in performance, at least in loudness and likely in reduced distortion, as well. Altogether, supposing that the KEF engineers did their jobs well (and the accolades for the various speakers suggest that), the LS60 present more opportunities for them to tune the elements more for their more their more narrowly focused acoustic responsibilities. That's bound to have some benefit. I'm curious to see what people find as we all have more time to assess the results.

[@porschepasellcar7627]

@@KenManheimer I enjoyed reading your very articulate comments. I bought a pair of KEF LS60’s a month ago based in part on some of the pointers you made. At 60-75% volume in a 7m x 5m room, the speakers really come into there own. Next door, even well separated, neighbours will have no problem listening to what you are playing. The articulation is pin point. The bass gets progressively louder, more authoritative, but never intrusive and drowning. I like to feel the music (I don’t mean stand by the speaker at a nightclub haha) but enough to my core active. In this regard the LS60’s are quite magical. The separation between instruments is exquisite and control of each offering is distinct. Unlike the B&Ws and R4s(?) and several other speakers of similar price with a Naim or NAD, I couldn’t match the distinct separation at increased volumes, backing everything you say.

[@riccardovargetto7990]

Your angle is always interesting. I had the opportunity to listen to these beauties in a wonderfully treated room in a hifi shop here in Rome and I have to say that they’re impressive! Such a big sound from such a small and skinny cabinet! I think I could live with these ones.

[@atulnsingh]

John, you are just so fantastic. Every time I see your video, I learn a thing or two. You make it simple, which is very hard. Kudos

[@tronderikbrekke8792]

The review to watch as always. I think you summarized it perfectly. I need to have a listen to the LS60 for sure. And I can totally relate to the split personality in terms of high end audio. I can totally appreciate the system building of a passive system, and at the same time the simplistic bits of a active system. Thanks for your thorough work. And real world comparisons.

[@Prince_Pig]

love this review John, love your descriptions of the sound and comparisons

[@Cross291]

Wonderful review again! Enjoyed watching it and can’t wait to get my hands on the LS60 Wireless for my home!

[@LukeVesty]

I'm not an audiophile. Not even close. But I just find this guy compelling to watch and I'm having trouble not watching any more of these videos.

[@GiovanniBurroni]

love the "highly recommended album of the week" part! Your videos are easily some of the most enjoyable around

[@palmcreative1114]

Thanks for your review and other video’s! Another great one 🤘🏽

[@mikehuntington4440]

Excellent job with the review! My only problem is with the built-in streaming software. I purchased an original pair of LS50 wireless, and the software was absolutely terrible! Kef did NOTHING to fix the problems it had. You are at the mercy of a company if they put out a bad update or anything. And because Kef have proven to me, that they ultimately don't care about long-term customer service.... I would not trust them. Just a word of caution for anyone considering spending this much money on these speakers.

[@stephenmayo9573]

Always interesting and useful reviews, thanks. Software based speakers are a hard sell for me, but you give me lots to think about.

[@tommorrison9724]

Another thoughtful and thought provoking video. I think the vast majority of listeners would be very happy with the LS60 (or LS50 Wireless/LC62 combo, or Burkhardt kit) once they got it in place and used equalization to tailor it to their room. As for the build versus buy integrated comparison, I’ve always built systems and enjoy the process. But buying what is basically a bespoke amp/speaker combo designed by some of the world’s top audio engineers is an attractive proposition.

[@thirdkey9]

As an owner of both component/passive & minimalist/active systems, thanks so much for the anticipated dive into these but also for the sharing on your appreciation for both types. Both actives and headphone listening were my gateway into audiophile waters and the separates jungle. Especially with gaming, vid stream of multi-media plus casual music listening and for social gatherings, I really dig on what my actives provide. When it comes to vinyl, more critical listening and all other activity, the jump to the other system provides a whole other beloved experience.

[@Soledata]

Thanks for recommending Craig Finn. I went to see him at The Turf Club because of this. Great show! Great review!

[@gilbertolazo8620]

Thanks darko, been waiting for this.

[@carloscosta3514]

Thank you so much for Craig Finn's recommendation. I had never heard any Craig Finn music. Great find, thanks to you. Very good music. About the Kef LS60W, I have the LS50WII with the BC62 sub, all connected with the AQ Diamond. Great system that gives me great pleasure. However, I will ask my supplier to let me compare the LS 60W in my listening room. I'll decide later what to do. Thanks for your video.

[@djconnect1]

Always worth a watch alongside a few other reviewers. Good entertainment and quality broadcasts. Looks like a brilliant product. The driver technology kef uses suits my ears

[@IvanMarjanovicLDN]

Another brilliant video, thank you John. I had the opportunity to experience KEF LS60 W at the North West Audio Show 2022 and I agree with you, they are great! There is also something that I would like to share with you. I had the opportunity to attend a demo of TAD-E1TX-K speakers by the Coherent System and had a quick chat with Tony and blew me out of the water!

[@stephenjohnpresnal4310]

I was waiting for a mention of/comparison with the Buchardt A500s - one of your fairly recent ‘Products of the Year’. I know these are floorstanders (and much more expensive), but the Buchardts also go down to 25Hz - around the same as the LS60s. It would have been interesting to see how the 2 compared soundwise.

[@darrenkutner]

I agree, however the A500s are about £2k cheaper so is it fair comparison... nonetheless I'd like to know what JD's opinion might be as I have a pair of A500s on trial (which I am enjoying). I think Buchardt have the model right, bypass the second party retailer and make the parts serviceable and replaceable - job done. I'm tempted to try out the S400 mkII and the i150 amp but I'm just not sure that I can be bothered as the A500s are active, all the work is already done!

[@johnbrown4568]

Thx for your excellent reviews.

[@Tanner_o]

I love your review, you have the whole window context of the audiophilia and that makes this a perfect product review. I just miss a room correction for an totally active system, can't understand why Kef miss that big win.

[@aeromaniac13]

Wow you listened to the Wipeout soundtrack!? I got goosebumps hearing you talk about it in the podcast. SUCH A GEM! You should check out the video game Frequency (PS2), a precursor to Guitar Hero but all electronic music. Symbion Project wrote a lot of music for it, and it's all so good!!

[@williamglasgow9853]

I can see the attraction for a reviewer to create a new narrative as in 'future-fi hi-fi'. And I must admit being influenced by the 'notion' having purchased Kef LSX a few years ago. In my case someting went amiss with the streaming section shortly after the warranty period elapsed. It seems to me now that I would have been much better off with separates as for the cost of having it repaired I could have replaced a separate with a brand new updated component. Maybe there is a future for 'past-fi' !

[@Inflator82]

That's my main concern with those active speakers. Something (amp, speaker, streamer) goes down out of warranty and you screwed. There might not even be spare parts for this or other model in few years time.

[@Z-u-m-a]

Well said.

[@electricsnut]

I see a lot of KEF speakers with issues on marketplace, your not an isolated incident

[@Natan9000]

Very nice thorough review! Many thanks! 👏 I do see the APM on your cabinet, wonder what u think about those too 😁

[@Alan_Mac]

Good little odyssey through the various options there. I'm firmly in the 'active streaming speaker' camp and love my recently-acquired LS50 Wirelss ii's connected to my tv and a Technics turntable. Meets all my music needs and looks neat and tidy in my room.

[@chawonytube]

Fantastic episode. On point!

[@kobymile5453]

Thanks for this review and comparison. LS60 is out of my budget. I booked LS50W2 and it is getting delivered next week. I will add KC62 when my budget fills up.

[@vikrambhaskar7976]

What an outstanding review Darko!!! Cannot be more satiating than this. Appreciate the hardwork of comparing them to passive systems in multiple configurations around the same price point. The end message about active speakers in general was really thought provoking!!

[@dank.6942]

I have a split personality about that as well, and when it feels like I'm overthinking all of the aspects of my passive system, I can really appreciate a simple, elegant, and great sounding, minimalist system as well.

[@NathJPearson]

Great comparisons. I just picked up some LS50w ii. LS60's are out of reach at the moment and I haven't the room to accommodate them. It's good to know in order to get a better sound out of a meta + amp combo I'd have to spend well over £1000 more than what the ls50w ii's cost to get a set up to better them. Taking me way out of my £2000 budget. The lyndorf and meta is well over £3,000 together. Not to mention cables and stands. The Hegal is in similar territory. Which makes the wireless ii very appealing in that regard.

[@darylwootton5217]

Great & entertaining review as always, if i didn't already have the LS50 meta's, KC62 and Rotel RA1572 & bluenode i would give these a serious consideration.

[@andreymerzlyakov8581]

Great recommendation(Craig Finn)! Love it))

[@iKaGe01]

Been waiting for this!!! I currently own the LS50w and was toying with the LS50 ii with the sub but...

[@vqa33]

YOU're the best reviewer i've seen for KEF ls60

[@TheSurfingCat]

Thank you for your patient and thorough review John. I've been without my system for a while after my Yamaha amp gave up the ghost. The KEF LS60 Wireless was one system option I was considering. I'm not one to rush decisions so I appreciate you not rushing your review. The most useful part of your review for me was when you mentioned "small rooms" and "less than ideal room setups"; I think that's a really important thing to highlight to people that one of the main characteristics of the system - it's "dynamic wallop", isn't going to do well in a small, oddly shaped room with wooden floors, alcoves and other room issues that magnify reflections and bass. For me, I think a possibly better option will be to pick up an NAD M10 V2 to pair with my LS50s (original) and get a KC62 on trial to see if I (and my neighbours) can live with it. Finally, I think KEF might have missed a trick with the LS60 Wireless. With their big soundstage and impactful delivery they could make a fantastic home theatre setup if paired with LS50 Wireless II, or a small box like the Powernode and some passive LS50s as rears. If NAD/Bluesound can manage it, I'm sure KEF could work out a way to code 4.1 surround through their app. I hope it's something they are considering.

[@hanneskluytenaar6908]

Thank you for this review. I was really curious what you think of it. I had the chance of listening to them already, and the first impression was positive. But I was really charmed by the aesthetics and the concept of one in all system. After all the comparing you did, I have a suggestion: The lyngdorf, with the kc 62 and with that the bec-Akustic from Germany. They are line array speakers of 1.20 meter long and a diameter of 3 cm. Be prepared to be blown away by the soundstage, and the fact that you don't need a sweetspot for imaging. But, that is maybe something for the future. Enjoy the. Music 🎶 👍🏻

[@manuelrobledo5106]

Great video Darko! Your are far superior to all the other channels put together Bruh!

[@timafken2297]

I have to a a degree the same split personality, but for my own money I would always go active and the KEF solution are just from my Point the by far best bang for the bug and also very pleasing to the eye. Would love to have the LS60W

[@trudimcleod5042]

One issue John is not considering is the aspect of uncertainty in the audio experience. I am going through a no music phase, so I am using a system that I put together for listening albums+CDs, it includes amp, preamp, speakers, DAC, bluetooth. But the DAC can accept the optical cable from the TV and the bluetooth receiver has LDAC. Knowing that I have flexibility is an advantage for future decisions.

[@baronvonaux8294]

“The ‘what-abouters’ amongst you”. Classic! One of my all time favourite Darkoisms.

[@HLOVEBARCA]

Wanted a new system for my new house. Listened to both LS60 and Forte IV. I prefer the Kilpsch. But I ordered the LS60 in the end due to the interior design and space constraint of my house.

[@SuperScagnetti]

..sat watching this on a lazy sunday afternoon on my old-school set of kef coda-ii..,it makes better when you take the time to produce a clear audio track....

[@godfrypinch2917]

Bang on the buck here. I think when you buy any component you are experimenting amps with speakers and dacs then when you get the better amp you think wait a bit will this sound better with a different speaker and it goes on and on. This way the experts have MADE the components for each other and probably tried hundreds of different versions creating the best they can in the product. When I heard a little pair of lsx few years ago I was blown away at the quality and it totally flipped all I was looking to create. I’m just waiting on Mr Darkos take on the new lsx before getting my cash out and selling amps and speakers. Do I go new version lsx 2 or old at reduced price. Only Darko can guide me.

[@mwagenma]

Thanks John! I’ve been waiting for this review! I’d love to see you do something a bit similar with these integrated streaming speakers that you’ve done with component systems. For example, I’m drawn to the KEF LSX but they’re $1200 CAD on Amazon. What would be the best budget pair? And what lies between the LSX and the LS60? Keep up the great work!

[@Halarue]

Finally part 2 is here

[@FireMunki63]

This needs an update considering the massive price drop on the LS60s at the end of last year 2023!

[@jeedmodorn5494]

Craig Finn and Leonard Cohen somehow manage(d) to fuse words with music in a unique and compelling way. Opening with a record recommendation is a good reminder, as is always the case with @darko audio, that music is where it's at. And our striving for top sound quality is but means to this end.

[@doctorbritain9632]

Great review John. I think many of us have your split personality problem, not least because of the WAF scenario some of us live with. The LS60 has the selling point of, "look honey I've got rid of all those ugly boxes and the hifi rack". I guess if you still want to tinker and can afford it, and have room, the answer is to have two systems. The living room aesthetic of an LS60 type product, and maybe a man cave separates system?

[@Peacewiser]

Sometime ago I thought of the idea of a modular system, passive speakers, but the amplifier and source are designed to fit atop the loudspeaker in modular fashion and designed to fit that exact passive speaker. That way the system could still be active, per say, and still look all designed together, but if the amp dies, then the user need not take the heavy speaker to the repairer, likewise the source too. Such a system would remove the central rack from the equation also, and would simplify the entire thing and yet still be break downable for transport and maintenance. good luck!

[@manuelcandre187]

Behind you, is that a Julius shulman's picture of a Philip Johnson's house ? Love it.

[@JTT2505]

I hadn't heard of Craig Finn until now but after a very quick listen I'm reminded of Van Morrison's Coney Island.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗THANKS JOHN… FOR THE OUTSTANDING REVIEW 🤩🤩 and SHARING THAT THIS IS THE BEST TIME TO BE AN AUDIOPHILE…WE APPRECIATE YOUR MUSIC 🎶 SUGGESTIONS 👍😎😍😍😍

[@mohamedahmed1023]

5 yr driver support and 2 yr electronics support warranty isn't sufficient IMO. The electronics are my concern

[@davidgodal98]

Hello John Awesome video as always! Have you heard about the Danish audio brand Argon? Would love to hear your take on them and maybe a review of the Fenris A55 or Forte A55 mk2

[@David_analogue01]

Just came here to say I checked out the Kangding Ray album you shouted out and it is very good indeed.

[@rj7263]

Thank you, love this review. This color looks green to me, is it the titanium grey?

[@martijnbos9873]

Very curious how these would do when compared to the Buchardt A700. That seems to be the most direct competitor at this point in time.

[@macmovieman1]

After owning the LS50W2 for a week now, I could see adding something like the LS60 to our living room. Is it possible to love and hate your reviews at the same time. Love the little details and hate that you make me want to buy more speakers. :)

[@cinqiwc]

A pair of active speakers like this with Dirac or similar would be the ultimate set. Thanks for this great review!

[@GutekZ]

Absolutely agree. Would love to see these with some kind of Room Correction.

[@justlooking813]

As the market starts heading down the active route, comparisons to high end studio monitors should be considered. Sure, the speakers wouldn't have streaming natively, but therein lies an opportunity for these amp/processor manufacturers to make great line level output devices (hello balanced!) with even better DAC components.

[@CCC-AUSTX]

OMG Great plants.....What about putting up some stills of BERLIN?......Like your attitude/delivery to your show (Except the times you remind me of my Grandma RIP, scolding me about something!) CCC Austin, TX😎🤠🤪

[@DavidBoyes]

John, what are the shelf units on the left at 18:29? They look like IKEA Kallax underframes. Love your videos, insight and production values, incidentally.

[@brendanmccarthy4218]

Excellent evaluation John. How would you compare it with the KiiThree you lived with a little while back?

[@paulholte]

Hey there, John. Craig’s “sprechgesang” first showed up for me back in the 90s when he fronted the band Lifter Puller here in the Twin Cities. You may want to give their stuff a spin too.

[@andrewwebb4635]

I guess this LS60 approach may be the future. Electronic engineers seem to like the powered speaker approach since they can control things more easily. It’s a minor step forward to include the streamer and DAC as well. Perhaps the market will be flooded with affordable LS60 clones in a year or two? It seems a bit like the 1980s PC vs Mackintosh argument with desktops - the configurable setup vs the ready-made system. Eventually, as John hinted, most of us nowadays tend to adopt a ready-made laptop even if it’s a PC inside.

[@DanilaGrigorev]

Looks very cool! However, I have a question about ls50 wireless 2. Maybe you can tell which subwoofer will sound better in a small room up to 20 squares, cube10 or kc62?

[@robinmarples5198]

As a piece of funiture, those ls60 are sublime.

[@Donzimadness]

Like the LS 50W and LS 50W 2 they have been released with issues. KEF makes you hope and wait for solutions like what is described in this review concerning the link between the left and right channel disconnecting. I am done with the all in one design thanks to Owning the original LS50W. Warranty says don’t buy as well and think about shipping costs if out of warranty when you have a electronics issue.

[@RC-qc2nz]

Hey darko. Where do you got your greenish acoustic panels from? They are gorgeous. Your complete interior is very nice and I love your videos. I wish you a good day and greetings from a different German city

[@dougg1075]

I hit the “ like” button as soon as the video starts. Love this channel And music recommendations

[@easylaptop]

moment i got 2650euro to by ls50 wirelees, kef come with ls60, omg back to work. nice video ,thanx man

[@leokuiper2593]

If you always want better when it comes available you will never have enough money to buy a system. Many active systems available that better the LS60 with according higher price tab’s. But I can imagine you fancy the LS60 though.

[@adrianrorvik7488]

Nice one, but I would love to see a comparison with the Buchardt A700.

[@tharrytrusdell3235]

Maybe you can do a review of the golden ear triton speakers and see how they compare with the LS60. I would like to see how they compare. The Tritons have a powered subwoofer and so you must use your system for the mids and highs. I know you have done Golden ear reviews in the past.

[@jeffreythurston1822]

Really great info!! How do you use a turntable with the LS60 Wireless??

[@joegg6932]

Are you planning on reviewing the Devialet Phantom I's sometime in the future? (would love to see these)

[@latonbuzzard2386]

Sounds great in practice. I bet you my last pound they will not satisfy my bass head. I am a rock fan and like to feel and hear the music like a live show. I'm thinking a heavy hitting sub will almost certainly be needed for this set up. While you have pre and main amplification in one box there is almost certainly a heat issue expected with these. I remember Bowers and Wilkins introduced active bass speakers in some floor standing models that were dropped soon after. I was also thinking future faults would put your system out of action. An example of this was the washer dryer configuration, if one side fails, you cant use the other. Personally I will stick to my 1 pre amp, 4 x power amps and a 1000 watt sub, along with Bowers and Wilkins floor standers.

[@bjwal6]

Really nailed this one

[@engelweh]

Please forward to John: Is there any chance for a comparison between LS60 and its most obvious competitor: Buchardt´s A 700 with the Platin Hub? That would be really great

[@Canadian_Eh_I]

I love the serious face you end the videos with, its very genuine

[@barneyrubble9309]

Sadly they can't do a passive version but hopefully they could do an active version without the internal dacs/streamers. I'm using LS50Metas with dual lyngdorf BW-2 subwoofers (well worth a review in their own right) via a Lyngdorf tdai-2200 room corrected and doubt i could improve on that system without spending mega bucks.

[@freakaz01d]

I have a dynaudio xeo 6, it has a separate connect box which contains all the inputs, it then communicates wirelessly to the speakers, so all i see are just power cables out from the speakers. I like wireless systems like the kef ls60 because their engineers put in a lot of R&D into creating a speaker,speaker design and an amp that matches extremely well, but connecting all the inputs into one side of the speakers kinda kills it for me, im sure it wont be a dealbreaker for some people

[@kirkaparty4143]

Thanks for the review, maybe the competition will be Buchardt actives A500 or A700.

[@carlitomelon4610]

John, you have your own brand of "sprechgesang". Good review. In a different life the LS60 "appliance" route might appeal. But after 40years of separates, I'm at peace with boxes and only one set of cables running to the speakers and two to each sub! 🎵🎶😉🎶🎵 PS Stacked LS50s...... ..$1500 4xKC subs..$3000 Amp?..........$1500 🤔😉

[@mr_billb]

Darko, what is the brand/model of your white lp bench/equipment stand? That is a really nice piece of furniture for a stereo stand. Thanks.

[@mikeyang6840]

And Bi-Amp-able is a must for the passive version of LS60.

[@geraldmcmullon2465]

There is no passive version of the LS60. Kef believe it is not possible. LS50 Wireless II and passive LS 50 Meta but the LS60 needs the DSP.

[@Rascallucci]

It would be interesting to compare the LS 60 Wireless with the new Dynaudio Focus 50 Wireless.

[@michaellong9039]

Like it or not, you can achieve better performance with a DSP controlled cross-over with the correct amplifier type/power matched to the drivers. And maybe the single biggest advantage is the possibility of adding software room compensation. I like the way Meadowlark Audio is implementing their speakers with DACS and power built in, but with an external preamp/streamer with room correction software.

[@AudioElectronicsChicago]

these KEFs are so good looking and sounding

[@kjltube]

Nice stuff Mr Darko. I'm running LS50 mk1's, a power amp, and the new version of the Bluesound Node. I also have a Samsung frame tv. I just wondered, how are you getting the album art etc to come up on your Frame TV? I'm not sure my node can do this despite having hdmi Arc...

[@ebkesq72]

Roon via Chromecast streaming can do this.