Keir Starmer speech means change for Whitehall | The New Statesman

[@NewStatesman]

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[@jmiller7209]

Torys lost the last election because of standard of living and immigration, I suspect Labour's success in the next election will depend on those things also

[@andybrice2711]

Yeah, there is not much point building 1.5m homes if you then immediately fill them with new people.

[@BoyeeSmudger]

sadly they (new houses) will all be bought up by overseas investment groups. London has been bought up, now it's the rest.

[@justinday5961]

How about reducing the demand?

[@BoyeeSmudger]

Most of the housing will just be sold off to overseas investors.

[@Phil-n7c]

@@andybrice2711 All this trouble because they decided to massively increase the population

[@boydonewrongagain]

Labour want growth and change, and I believe them, but the dull managerial language (missions, plans, targets...) is numbing, even to their supporters.

[@mygoogle1482]

@@boydonewrongagain how can you believe them re growth? Without it all the other grand plans collapse. Well spend to breaking point on inflating public service costs. We may get better services. But we’ll get nothing from the foreign aid climate or other billions committed to the carbon storage stunt. My real fear is the billions being invested into broken incapable of performance related culture NHS and others like train unions. He has put the cart before the horse. Without stimulating growth which requires less legislation and lower costs for labour and energy he is screwing much of where the growth will come from. So comms may be poor, but what he is saying Is even more alarming if you have a strong view on how to stimulate growth

[@jaisriram295]

People and the New Statesmen need to understand that Labour weren't voted in the Tories were voted out...36 percent of votes is not a great mandate

[@Josheroo]

Which means nothing in a FPTP system. He played the game, win lots of seats on slim margins as the popular vote counts for nothing, it should, but it does not.

[@Josheroo]

The job now for labour is holding those seats and strengthening majorities.

[@jaisriram295]

@@Josheroo they won because Tory voters stayed home not because they were popular...he got less votes than Corbyn did in 2019 who lost by a lot

[@thomashobbs1498]

I voted Lib Dem’s but I wanted a Labour government. The seat was a Lib Dem / Tory swing seat. I suspect many people were similar and it wouldn’t contribute to the 36 percent figure people like to quote

[@ministry2627]

So many things in this country would be improved if we had a sensible migration policy.

[@neilprimrose8720]

Much of what Peter Heyman says is absolutely right, but the key building blocks of the implementation of all these changes is the dynamic of The Meeting. In my experience right across the country - government, local government, institutions and businesses - this is where productive and effective change fails. Almost always people arrive at meetings with an unhelpful mind-set, for all sorts of reasons, and this is where we need a national initiative to recalibrate how meetings are done as the traditional format was founded on keeping the status quo in place. None of Labour's plans will stand a chance unless this foundational building block is understood and everyone buys into the reason for that change.

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Rory Stewart said it on Question Time last week; if the government is *not* seen to be *EFFECTIVELY* addressing the issue of managing our embarrassingly porous borders amd immigration system (the level of porosity has grown exponentially over the past twenty years) then no amount of *"awfully nice"* conversations on this little channel by well spoken white middle class commentators from such quintessential havens as Bilbury, Hebden Bridge or Letchworth (all pristinely unaffected by the social challenges of this phenomenon) about Starmer's Plan for Change will divert very significant parts of the electorate's attentions away from the warm embrace of Farage et al.

[@MrDunkycraig]

I think these muppets have no clue on the real world, and its to late Reform will eat labours lunch the way its going

[@garylake1676]

I agree, I see the demonisation of populism in the same light that the term racism is manipulated in almost every form. If you believe that borders should be policed, and a formal process to police them is working as it should, then you will satisfy the centre ground of the populist movement, which means it will wither on the vine. Populism is an inevitable part of leaving the Indigenous population feeling like second-class citizens. It is essential that altruism for the sake of altruism does not end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Like anything in life, altruism in moderation is the way forward, and that is where the Governments of the past three decades have failed. To be fair, this applies to the EU States, too.

[@Hesthedaddy]

The way that successive governments from Blair onwards have said they will reduce immigration and then done the opposite has really undermined trust in centre left and centre right governments. The truth is that we do need immigration, but it needs to be controlled, and targeted to the areas of the economy that need it. It seems that no-one in the centre has the courage to make the argument and take it to the electorate as part of their manifesto .

[@garylake1676]

@@Hesthedaddy The issue with the centre ground, is they stand the nothing, so they achieve nothing, other than to kick the can down the road.

[@TheSlinq]

His "plan for change" completely lacks any plan, or any change. Starmer's government is a disaster.

[@user-gu1un7pb7k]

Nonsense first sentence. But the second is correct unfortunately.

[@georgethompson453]

Dead right to criticise the civil service as they are in the way of change but why on earth launch 67 separate reviews, surely that’s counter productive?

[@DeanLawrence_ftw]

very descriptive title

[@lesleypatriciajordison4890]

Blair mouthpiece turns head teacher. We're in scary regions here. Interesting that his seventh word is "show". Sums up Labour since Blair - all show! Oh and jargon - mission, deliver, .........

[@n28utd]

But we already know guys that these milestones if not hit, it will he "we inherited the worst situation" "22 billion black hole" etc. etc. Even though they set these targets during government...

[@nickc4219]

Why now - because he's lost the electorate and his party; the whole operation is essentially visionless. None of the things he set out will be achieved by his government unfortunately. I'd love them to succeed but I fear that they simply won't.

[@dreamEternal]

Nothing you've said makes sense. He's obviously not 'Lost' his party, or the Electorate. They litarily just arrived 6 months ago in a 4-5 year mandate. Chill.

[@pasharmsby742]

The public quote back to the media what the media report to them about the governments achievements. 🔃

[@norwaylife7615]

What surprised me was the way the media asking the questions did not seem to understand the concept of foundations and missions. But Stamer seems awful at answering questions in an honest sounding way. Why could he not explain the 100% v 95% cabon target for example. Bidens presidency suggests that it's not enough to do good - you have to win the media ,the internet junkies and be appealing. Who will be Labours mayor Pete?

[@simondebeer9917]

This conversation would benefit from having a wider variety of views & not just labour luvvies

[@chrisohanlon69]

Immigration caps are not enough. Everything is doomed to failure without a reversal.

[@Phil-n7c]

The vast increase in the size of the population is literally the root cause of many of our problems. But here's why they won't reverse it: first of all, the British elite loves divide and rule. Secondly, if the house prices started to come down, people would start to go into negative equity and all the financial products which have been tied to house prices would start to collapse and tip over our highly unstable financial system They have created an insane situation for nothing more than naked greed and a sociopathic desire for control

[@glassmuxxic]

It's nice of the Labour party to join those of us who have been criticizing the capacity and productivity of the civil service at a systems level for years 😂 I wonder if Keir'll be labelled an authoritarian populist for it too...

[@Jay685]

I temped in all sorts of bits of the Civil Service and even at my junior level, it was obvious it was top heavy and when they cut, they cut people on the ground, not the layers of managers. They also only promoted from within and moved people too often. I had very senior people complain to me about not getting promoted as they were technical experts and that was deemed "baggage"... Do the politicians realise that the Civil Service and Councils have been selling off everything they can sell to dund general expenditure and one of these days, there will be nothing left to sell and they'll be buying back property to build at market rates, probably inflated especially for them? No wonder there's no enforcement or oversight anywhere and just managed decline before being sold off at cut prices.

[@TechnoLadz]

You forgot the title.

[@alexshine776]

I don’t believe Keir Starmer’s speech was ambitious enough. The UK needs bold, transformative solutions, and that’s exactly what the National Community Support (NCS) programme offers. It’s a holistic plan to address the country’s economic, social, and community challenges. I’ve shared this with both Andrew Marr and Starmer, as I believe the NCS is what the people and the country truly need.

[@cobbler40]

Not calling them ‘the blob’ then !

[@dianap6264]

These really are national goals and all parties should work together to achieve them.

[@patbyrneme007]

There is no hope of starting to solve the housing crisis without mass public home building. But Labour are so wedded to neoliberalism they have set their face against a publicly led policy in favour of private house building. Equally bad is the new Labour policy of annually raising council property rents at the rate of inflation plus 1% while keeping housing benefit insufficient for so many in private rented accommodation.

[@daraorourke5798]

Most sensible comment so far. Solve housing and other problems shrink away.

[@paulprice9826]

This planning framework is antiquated and will not work. By the time they have baked a 10 year plan - everything will have changed. Unbelievable that this approach is being implemented today. Sad to see and destined to fail. Get agile and focus on outcomes.

[@michaelmoran2022]

Govt is going to have to do environmental studies and appraisals regarding species and wildlife etc to name a few before he can just build houses anywhere he likes All this is going to slow everything down.

[@davidsmith8728]

But no mention in his speech about migration - legal and illegal - one of the most important issues concerning the electorate at the moment and never mind the billions being spent on migration and the impact on public services.

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

They say they're going to process asylum claims, which will mean people being deported and other people being allowed into the workplace and less money being spent on asylum. Seems simple enough.

[@EnglishFolkWisdom]

Oh dear. Smart people earnestly explaining why it's good to have a plan, a plan should have targets, targets are good, people like plans, people like targets, people like governments with plans and targets.

[@anthonyspinks2640]

How can any government not see stop immigration legal and illeagal and the public will give you a very wide band to operate in 🤷🏻‍♂️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@fenderek666]

Immigration is not a problem. It won't sort ANYTHING You need NHS that works, dentists you can access etc. And no, it's not because of immigrants- it's because of the way it is (or isn't) financed. Dentist now actively get rid of NHS patients, going totally private. Same applies to social care, utilities, transport. Thank Thatcher.

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

How can you stop legal immigration?

[@nickkowal6537]

Businesses are set up to have capex and opex spent through different teams. The civil service should be set up the same way, operational expemditure business as usual teams and then teams developing the capital expenditure major projects change programmes.

[@martinoconnor923]

Lets use words like missions .... architecture.... and CEO's to drive change any chance of enough brick layers to actually go onto a building site to build the houses? Educated people out of touch..........

[@brianevans2819]

He has no credibility and no one believes a word he says.

[@angusswanson5984]

Perhaps politicians should take a closer look at themselves before blaming civil servants, planning system, lefties and populism or anything else. Short termism, dishonest election manifestos, inability to advocate a difficult case or argument, boom and bust approach to investment, ever changing rota of ministers in some departments etc etc. Lack of political consensus for any long term strategy required to deliver strategic change. That’s not to say reform shouldn’t be on the agenda but please tell me what that look like and take a closer look at home before blaming everyone else.

[@BillCarrIpswich]

Mr Hyman is nominative determinism in action

[@johndean8052]

All huff and puff no need to listen. ..

[@kayoedowner6711]

The last question was insightful, the answer seemed to be “I was happy to write the deception, but I don’t want any part of it now the public can see the lies”.

[@garylake1676]

Who would have thought that Cummins and Starmer would be reading the same chapter, maybe even the same page? Let's see if its a case of the different poo, the same smell, prevails, or is this poo something that will smell like roses?

[@SuperRobertByrne]

We're down to blank

[@SuperRobertByrne]

They fixed the title but I'm leaving my comment there :)

[@paulcarter4945]

immigration?

[@nickthewine3394]

It’s the economy stupid (sorry for derogation). Starmer seems to fail to understand that someone has to pay for all these dreams. Stimulate business and tax it fairly and happy days, we all win as long as he doesn’t line his chums pockets a la Tories. Small businesses make small communities richer and safer.

[@haydenhoodless2055]

In between the noise Labour are making subtle changes for the better. I believe if allowed to, these will accumulate over the course of the term into some real tangible change. The problem is that unfortunately that's not what the general public will judge Labour on in the short term, and that's going to seep into long term opinion if Labour are not careful. They need to throw the public a bone of some sort, whether that be in the form of raising tax free allowances or capping rents. The conservatives were terrible in government but were clever enough to realise that every now and then, especially in hard times, people need a little extra from the government.

[@CaptainSwiss94]

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[@trashman1358]

10 pledges to become leader - all flip flopped. 5 pledges to gain power - all flip flopped. Now 6 new pledges... Flippy flop Starmer true to form as always... Vote Reform UK.

[@sbwords]

Bullshit bingo - this bloke talks like a robot.

[@ianbarnes8593]

He’s spent too long in meetings and sitting at a desk. Never got up off his backside and got his hands dirty out in the real world. All jargon and buzz words that boil down to ten tenths of sweet FA.

[@BillCarrIpswich]

Look for some Julius Nicholson scenes from The Thick Of It - the guy is a dead ringer for the character.

[@jaisriram295]

Imagine waiting 14 years for another Labour government and getting this shower of the proverbial 😂 they are a disaster after only a few months in office

[@ChrisVaughan-gj7ve]

What a joke! What silly people would suggest this miserable Labour government?

[@kabl00muk94]

@ChrisVaughan-gj7ve definitely not the absolubte imbeciles that voted for Boris 'give me more money' Johnson Or Nigel 'I helped destroy the UK with the Brexit bus' Farage 👍🏻

[@iancallard3561]

And to quote Dominic Cummings further.. it won't happen with a team that has never experienced 'high performance' in anything their lives have been exposed to.

[@joetotale6354]

Um, just curious to know if you ever in your lifetime cast a vote for Boris Johnson?

[@alangaughran]

Would somebody please stop that bloke from splitting infinitives routinely with incessant deviations and anecdotes. It completely distracts from his really good messages to my frustration. I feel it unlikely this is a one-nutter complaint.

[@scream1t]

What makes him think Civil Servants can build homes? What builds homes is the right economic conditions and that's the Bank of England's now independent role.

[@HeirToTheScarletSky]

The government used to build a lot of houses. Many more than are built today by the private sector. It's not impossible for the state to do things.

[@simondebeer9917]

And it doesn’t help that Reeves’ budget has damaged the economy & the house building industry & people’s ability to buy house. The govt doesn’t seem to see the connections between its various actions

[@michaelgriffiths5723]

The working class build homes

[@simondebeer9917]

@@michaelgriffiths5723 with capitalis funding and organisation

[@daraorourke5798]

Really? How good were conditions in 1945?

[@stephenwoods4316]

Load of left wing twodle

[@GuntD-rz1xb]

Hardly left wing.

[@kabl00muk94]

Balanced journalism* Doesn't go with the Tory/UKIP way of thinking we know, "Why tell the truth when you can just control the flow of information?" 😂 Them days are over, act accordingly chap 🤓🤣

[@crayontom9687]

The New Statesman isn’t left wing

[@MrDunkycraig]

The gentleman on this is so out of touch with reality on how the public think. Lets bet that these focus groups are from London or another big city rather than from the country at large. Nothing announced by two tier yesterday will echo with anyone in the public. The green energy one isnt possible as the subsidies for green energy are what is putting our bills up. 22 billion on carbon capture madness which could be done for pennies by planting trees. Big corps are already sounding farms out to buy farmland to plant trees on! Get out of London weve had thousands of new homes in my city since 2000, its population has doubled wages are stagnated and services are still the same as when lab ignored it happening. My sons have no chance of a home due to mass migration putting house prices up.

[@ThomasBoyd-r6k]

207 Tories that Hung parliament in 2029 UK general election pitfil politically for them politically conservative party in England. Support STV voting system House of Commons UK general election really meant it politically. Would have another referendum on it nationwide United Kingdom. Liberal Democrats yes its Liberal Democrats people in England London do it they for full PR voting system Thomas. Awesome thanks.

[@garyb455]

Who on earth was stupid enough to vote for Labour ? The latest survey from the Bank’s Decision Maker Panel shows 54pc of businesses expect to raise prices in response to an increase in employer National Insurance contributions (NICs). An equal proportion of businesses will lower employment. Michael Saunders, a former member of the Bank’s interest rate-setting Monetary Policy Committee (MPC), said the figures showed the National Insurance increase was depressing the economy

[@soundguyldn]

I did. Right wing politics does not serve the people that vote for it. Under Labour we'll see policies and MPs actually work to improve the lives of the whole country, instead of performative politics, lies, scandals & corruption. Are they perfect? No. But they will be trying to do good, and their intentions are sound. If they achieve even just 50% of what they promise, it'll be more than the Tories, and millions will benefit.

[@krzysztofjan4214]

Yeah I think we need Labour to break ties with our next biggest trade partner, worked so well for the EU.

[@fenderek666]

You want more Tory incompetence?

[@NigelThompson-hb5jg]

I love the idea that children not being potty trained is due to the state's failures to help bring them up properly.

[@advocate1563]

Blah blah. We're no longer listenong.

[@roguetrooper5401]

I thought I had heard all the dribble that could come out of this Government and I use the word Government very loosely untill i listened to this man talk complete twaddle.

[@Athuall]

05:00 Absolute nonsense don't know what exposure and to what areas this guy has had but if I could describe what we are doing publicly there is a huge amount of innovation and change going on right now, including adoption of AI, automation processes and continuous improvement.

[@joetotale6354]

How many copies does the Staggers now sell? I hope those State Dept checks are plugging the shortfall as readers desert.

[@Chris-lr2qb]

This video isn't showing in my subscriptions page.

[@pamelsims2068]

Right Laddie..... this mega balls- up is down to you is it? You keep on thinking.... that's what you're good at..... just don't actually act on it!

[@PaOfCats]

Laughable

[@mygoogle1482]

These analysts are part of the problem. They do not fundamentally understand that government is broken and needs re-designing. We need DOGE. Maybe they’ll clear out the crap analysts.

[@daraorourke5798]

Not a popular one , Elon.

[@diannepilkington1937]

I have been listening to three people discussing Labours policies and i am sure that the three people present do not live in the same world that i live in,Starmer definitely does not and his subordinates do not seem to live in my world either,i think all would have benefitted from having a proper job.

[@stirlingmoss9637]

We need more new homes for immigrants.

[@joetotale6354]

Back under your rock now, please.

[@jacquisimpson9448]

Starmer is a complete and utter disaster for this country. I'm terrified of him he's a robot with no empathy😢

[@Schiltron]

Starmer has announced some new millstones? I would have thought his total lack of charisma was a big enough millstone without introducing more.

[@andrewwebb9426]

I don’t believe missions/ targets/ milestones mean anything with the general public. We want action, not words and ambitions and you don’t start by bashing pensioners and employers! This idea the civil service is in flux and poor wee ministers can’t get anything through is another serious misunderstanding. I think the civil service will respond to one minister staying in place for year after year forcing his agenda through. Just wait for New New Labour’s first Cabinet reshuffle. Next week, next month? And then some other naive newcomer has to ‘learn his or her brief’ and start all over again with the same civil servants his or her predecessor was dealing with. The stability should start at Cabinet level if you want the civil servants to perform well. Otherwise, they just sit it out until the next reshuffle in government.

[@crayontom9687]

Weak managers always blame their underlings. Starmer is as useful as a chocolate teapot

[@GrahamJones-co9yp]

Oh how the worm turns! The passive resistance from a left leaning civil service was ok when the conservatives were in power, but a bit annoying now isn’t it?

[@peterdowney1492]

Not Covid - RESPONSE TO COVID.

[@JennyMcClean]

GET THEM OUT NOW

[@MrDunkycraig]

The gentleman on this is so out of touch with reality on how the public think. Lets bet that these focus groups are from London or another big city rather than from the country at large. Nothing announced by two tier yesterday will echo with anyone in the public. The green energy one isnt possible as the subsidies for green energy are what is putting our bills up. 22 billion on carbon capture madness which could be done for pennies by planting trees. Big corps are already sounding farms out to buy farmland to plant trees on! Get out of London weve had thousands of new homes in my city since 2000, its population has doubled wages are stagnated and services are still the same as when lab ignored it happening. My sons have no chance of a home due to mass migration putting house prices up.