Keiser M3i vs Sunny SF-B1709 - a $2000 commercial grade indoor bike compared to budget Sunny Bike

[@TailHappyTV]

please click that thumbs up button 0:00 don't skip this part 2:21 display and metrics 4:31 keiser m3i apps 5:07 sunny pulse sensors 6:07 handlebars 7:03 adjustability 8:57 seats 9:50 geometry 10:17 pedals 11:07 sunny 1709 ride 12:48 keiser m3i ride 14:42 drive train comments 17:24 sunny high resistance 18:55 sunny max 20:47 keiser high resistance 21:58 max resistance comments 24:59 min resistance compare 25:50 max power test 30:38 final thoughts

[@danbaker8508]

Thanks for all your reviews! After watching your reviews of the bikes I was interested in I went with the Keiser M3i. Many reasons I went with Keiser, but mainly it's the exact same bike I use at my closed health club. So down the road if the bike needs to be worked on I know there are people in my area familiar working on them. Plus I have all apple products and am presently using the Apple fitness + app. Which I love and is only $9.99 a month. I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into your reviews so I could make an informed decision on which bike to purchase. You might need to move into a bigger place if you review anymore bikes...

[@austinado16]

Great review. I just picked up a Keiser M3 (I didn't need the features of the i model). Bought it used, as there are a ton of them available used. They're built in Fresno, CA, the company is an easy phone call away, and if you need anything (I ordered a new belt) you can call talk to a real person, and your parts leave that day. They are infinitely rebuildable and easily worked on. Mine has 11,000+miles showing on the odometer, and it's still smooth as glass. Best $300 bucks I've ever spent.

[@TailHappyTV]

Holy smokes, $300 for that bike was a steal. If you ever decide to sell it you’ll make a profit 😆

[@austinado16]

@@TailHappyTV They are all over Craigslist, and very inexpensive.

[@dexterdv]

Waiting for the Keiser vs Peloton comparison!

[@allenvilla7098]

I took look forward to hearing whether you think the Peloton has the stability and durability of a commercial-grade bike like the Keiser.

[@spopparty]

+1

[@theodoreboosalis]

@@allenvilla7098 It doesn't. I've burned through 8 bikes in 3 years. Some of their frames are misaligned - warped. I am going Stages SB20 - arrives late May. Once I get the next Peloton bike swap (May 4th) - hopefully the frame is good so I can sell it.

[@christopherwelch5568]

I’ve reached an age where running hurts me more than helps me and I started cycling instead at my gym. They have a Keiser M3 and I really like it, it feels like riding a bike. I’m considering taking it to the next level and riding more outside the gym. My dilemma is a quality stationary bike costs as much as a road bike. But riding outside at the intensity of a stationary bike where I live is not an option be I d live in a bike friendly area

[@TailHappyTV]

maybe you should just give it a try for a season, it'll change you're life, perhaps you'll pick up a new lifelong passion - if not, sell it and go back to indoor. I love outdoor riding. hope this helps

[@ronron3847]

The Keiser is phenomenal. I really enjoyed riding it. It feels like a quality piece of equipment. Although I already know the outcome, are you gonna compare it to the 1805? Thats probably not a fair comparison. Probably Keiser vs peloton or nordic track. Loving the videos. Keep up the good work.

[@bmp713]

How are you liking the M3i after 2 years? Any problems or mechanical issues? I am thinking of buying a used one for $1000 with 6060 miles on it.

[@ryanmiskin8925]

@@bmp713 did you end up buying that used one? I'm looking at several around me in the $700-800 range, I can probably haggle them down even further and just use whatever fitness app I want on a tablet.

[@bmp713]

@@ryanmiskin8925 Yes I did buy one. It is extremely well built but the display is bare minimum and not compatible with most HR sensors. You lose all your display data if you stop pedaling for a 1 minute bathroom break. Also it only works with chest straps. Its an insane workout at least. Pros could train for the Tour De France on this thing easy.

[@dogman2047]

Thank you sir!! Love all your reviews my man,I’m hooked on your channel.

[@SimplyInColorado]

Hey! How does the Sunny 1805 compare to the 1709?

[@TheEmrickman]

Agree. I’d like a comparison

[@mkdamico37]

@@TheEmrickman 1805 has no data source so you never know your resistance or cadence

[@TheEmrickman]

@@mkdamico37 True. That's why I just bought a Keiser.

[@rod2625]

My Sunny with pulse monitor does track very close to my Fitbit. Given it is not immediate and I have to hold onto it awhile to register. I have also found just laying a couple of fingers on it registers as well as a full grip.

[@BuckeyeGirl]

My husband said ours was really slow to get up to the correct reading too. I never gave it much of a chance myself. I got a chest strap I used last night and will probably get a Scosche soon.

[@portagemanager3827]

We love this

[@hilltop2536]

What do you think about the bowflex velocore?

[@garylawrence4494]

Great reviews, but I am looking for a comparison of the front wheel vs. rear wheel spin bike advantages and disadvantages. Specifically the Sunny 1805 vs. 1709. Also where to actually try out a Sunny bike before ordering one blind off of the internet.

[@TailHappyTV]

There's no difference in term of feel, the difference is the flywheel in the rear keeps it out of the way from sweat dripping into it. If the flywheel is heavy and on the back it makes the bike more difficult to move around on the mobility wheels.

[@garylawrence4494]

@@TailHappyTV Thank you for the great reviews. I am going with the 1709. Ill click the link on your site to help support. Thanks again!

[@ronalucas3622]

How strong is the maxi resistance compared to SF-B1805?

[@okcomputr]

I started indoor cycling 2 years ago, and so far I've broken 2 sunny bikes, an Xterra mb550, and a Sole fitness sb700. I think its time to upgrade to the Keiser, but will it last longer than the < $1000 bikes I've had so far? I'm really sick of new bikes all the time!

[@SaveTheHedgehog]

It's typical quality over quantity. Besides that the keiser is a very populair worldwide and therefore there are plenty of spare parts widely available. When a cheaper bike is defect you can throw the whole machine away..

[@basilgeorge9009]

great work. Can you start reviewing low cost air bikes, threadmill

[@garylunn5438]

Great review, at 6’5”, living in the UK & needing plenty of leg knee space, plus higher than standard seat position, which bike is better for the taller guy? I’m only a home gym user & not a professional rider so the Keizer is great but more than I want to spend to be honest. Cheers Gary

[@jetshark970shark4]

You are lucky why not get a bodytone SMB1 V2 I wish I could get one. 50lbs rear fly wheel, 32 level magnetic resistance. I am in the united states so finding someone to ship to me has been next to impossible

[@azcatfan3544]

I’m looking for my first bike. I’ve watched a lot of your videos. I don’t want to spend a ton for a bike as I won’t be doing peloton or anything, just burning calories. I see you seem to like Sunny bikes for the price but when I look at the reviews on Amazon, it scares me. A lot of people say it’s great and then there are those that shit all over them. I was looking at the 1805 but not sure if I wanna spend that much. Is it much quieter than the 1102? I figured it is with the magnetic resistance and smoother. I want a pretty quiet bike because my gym is next to my baby’s room and don’t wanna wake her up. You clearly know what you are talking about. So, which do you honestly think I should go for? I am 6’3” and like wider, softer seats. Thanks in advance!

[@dawnharris1514]

I am in the market for a bike. I am not an expert rider. I need the bike for cardio and to help with physio from my knee surgery. I have looked at the Keiser M3 and M3, Schwin IC4, Echelon Connect and the Sunny SFB1709. Can you suggest? I am 5'2". Dawn

[@joebuczkowski8605]

Are the pedal crank arms a little bit longer on the 1709 compared to keiser M3 i ?

[@terrysennhenn896]

I have a lemond revmaster classic, but the kaiser m3i is next. If I ever need another one that is.

[@johnengland8619]

Thanks again for the content

[@CamaronesFuegos]

Do you have a list of bikes with power output? I feel like that's a pretty important metric to have long term. Thanks for all your videos and reviews, they have been very helpful in choosing an exercise bike and have made me even more hesitant to buy haha😅

[@TailHappyTV]

Lol, thanks! Of the bikes I have here, peloton, nordictrack s22i, echelon ex4s, echelon connect sport, and keiser m3i all give power output metrics, I cannot verify the accuracy of these power metrics, none of them use a strain gauge. I'm surprised the schwinn ic4 does not give a power estimate because it does give cadence and resistance.

[@CamaronesFuegos]

@@TailHappyTV guess I'll go for the echelon sport then. Wish it was available on Amazon with your link to give your channel extra support. Keep up the good work!

[@TailHappyTV]

For sure, no worries, enjoy the bike!

[@StonedRambo01]

@@CamaronesFuegos Tell him to give you this link... www.amazon.com/dp/B08MY4QLMC/?coliid=I2WO5X5M9SFPZS&colid=2TFXIZFR7R18T&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it this link is just from my wish list I get nothing if you use it. I'm gonna tell him to start linking that one. Not sure if he knows it 's available. It is $100 cheaper at Walmart though

[@StonedRambo01]

@@TailHappyTV ECHELON CONNECT SPORT is back on Amazon. You should go back and link it on all older videos too! www.amazon.com/dp/B08MY4QLMC/?coliid=I2WO5X5M9SFPZS&colid=2TFXIZFR7R18T&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

[@carrickdubya4765]

Bought the 1709 but in just 2 days it has developed a random fluttering sound which only lasts 20-30 seconds and can be heard every 5-7 minutes. Any ideas?

[@erice9971]

how is this compared to the 1805?

[@mxchino1]

The comparison video no one really needed. Lol good video.

[@TailHappyTV]

Everyone: Me: here's a bike you've never heard of compared to a bike you don't care about

[@TheEmrickman]

Thanks. I was looking for this comparison. I bought the Keiser. It's awesome. So smooth.

[@techfly3]

I was checking to find out if their is a better bike then the sunny for around 480 to 500 dollars are is this currently the best bike you have tried for that price ?

[@ioanbalint4039]

Compare maximum resistance between Sunny sfb 1002 vs Keiser

[@BWells5152]

Did you replace the pedals and did it fix the squeak? I found a Keiser M3 on sale used for a good price, but one of the pedals is a little loose and I wanted to make sure they were replaceable? Thanks.

[@lovejoy_23]

You can change out the pedals. There’s info on the Keiser website and you can call them.

[@carolynderksen4846]

Thanks for your great videos! I'm looking forward to your Keiser vs Peloton video as those are the 2 I'm looking to get. I know Peloton has lots more graphs and numbers but what do you do with all that data? Does the Keiser have enough to track your progress? I do love the Peloton classes and the iFit outdoor rides and plan to continue with both. Do you need the Bluetooth adapter to get the power output in a graph on the Keiser? Thanks so much again, keep up the great work!

[@gregoz6]

Thanks for another great video. Don’t you think that the manufacturers should focus more on other features than a little display being included in the bike or not? I mean everyone has has some sort of device to display the metrics. It’s almost like the manufacturer wants to take away your attention and hope you’d go for their bike because there is a little device that they include as it looks nice. I agree that Wahoo in almost all cases would be enough, why not add it instead? I’d build a better app instead and leave it to the customer if they want to display the metrics on their phone or 55” tv display ;-) thx

[@pinargosterisli8249]

Do you see the wobble and bounce of the whole saddle and structure under the rider on the Sunny? I know Keiser max weight is 350lb, I don't know about Sunny. Sunny looks like it would buckle under a heavier rider. I am glad I got the Keiser; I am waiting for it to arrive!

[@hdwoodshop]

How can you afford to have a room full of these machines?

[@chancemiller9340]

He basically gets paid to work out. People click to see the comparisons and the ad dollars pay for new machines to compare.

[@gleee86]

Not everyone is poor lol

[@vegasrenie]

Re the Sunny: hard to believe that a machine of this caliber has NO place for a device!

[@DivaDeb1234]

Wow I have never gone over 300 wats Usually 200

[@ShadeSlayer]

Keiser doesn't accurately record distance. For every 200 revolutions, Keiser advances the distance by .1.

[@williamkaiser8490]

You need to compare the KEISER against the SUNNY ASUNA LANCER

[@ShadeSlayer]

You don't need a tablet. Use your phone to cast to your television.

[@PaceyPimp]

Sunny new Lancer model looks better