Kemi Badenoch doubles down on biological sex equality law plans | LBC

[@thehealinggame]

Nick hasn't covered himself in glory as a supposed critical interviewer here

[@joepoppleton7614]

Hatred disguised as “politics”.

[@a.scoob2]

You cojpnsider acknowledging reality to be hatred. That’s your problem.

[@23bit76]

​@a.scoob2 but it's attractive policy for those filled with hate. You could be fighting for our health system with the rest if us ..but instead...

[@MijinLaw]

The thing is, there's nothing much in the policy that's different from the status quo. She wants to buy into all the binary rhetoric, but when it comes down to it, reality is complicated so you just essentially says it's case by case.

[@wolfhugs2221]

@@23bit76 you think fighting for women's rights is a waste of time? If women don't reassert their rights, what voice will they have to fight for anything?

[@wolfhugs2221]

@Notavictim you're unaware that women's rights are being eroded? How can you comment when you're uninformed? In the UK, women are being hounded out of jobs for expressing perfectly ordinary views, or have you missed the various tribunals? Many women won't have the means to take legal action. People are getting away with bullying women - the UK is doing slightly better than some other countries but only because some brave individuals have stood up. However, many rights, such as access to female only spaces, have been eroded. It's depressing that it's necessary, but women are once again having to fight for their rights.

[@dextercool]

Pure distraction from most people's priorities!

[@sabine1470]

Safeguarding women is bnot a distraction.

[@JayAndNightASMR]

Was in the toilet when Kemi burst down the door, screaming to see my birth certificate.

[@easycoding8255]

I DONT CAAAAAAAARE. Fix the NHS, Police, Economy, Schools etc etc. I have to live in the real world, not this Daily Mail comment section.

[@brendadarling7743]

I DOOOOO

[@wolfhugs2221]

@@brendadarling7743 me toooooo 😂

[@easycoding8255]

@@brendadarling7743 then you’re a saddoooooooo

[@SweggyBread]

"We want to add clarity" "Ok how about this specific scenario" "Well it depends..." Now that's some clarity!

[@davejlboy4505]

No talent .No patience. No idea ....oh and in just over a month No job .

[@Joeblogs999]

Your comment hasn't aged well.

[@danmayberry1185]

You can't spell Badenoch without Enoch.

[@scp_sixtynine4203]

Bad enoch

[@DilbertWhitehead]

Wow that's really cutting and edgy. You're so cool 😎

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

​@@DilbertWhitehead triggered?

[@Gary-le7dz]

@@DilbertWhitehead Don’t take up comedy you ll starve

[@Paul-eb4jp]

Or bad.

[@mjl2904]

Provide confusion, remove clarity and distract from poor economy… got it 👊🏾

[@charlcharlie7447]

We want to end confusion by adding more confusion. Thanks Kemi

[@El_Paracleto]

'Changing Clothes Doesn't Change Who You Are'....Most folk have always known the CONS are WOLVES in SHEEP'S CLOTHING, anyhow, but ta for the REMINDER...

[@jameshart3879]

So why do you have haircuts? Why wear clothes at all. The external is ALWAYS an expression of our internal. And how is hating trans people solving: Mortgage rates Growing deficit Corruption Cronyism Cost of living It's fear politics

[@thesmity31]

Isla Bryson was temporarily housed in a women's prison while a risk assessment was done regarding her time in prison. While she was there she was housed separately from the general population. The risk assessment found that she would be more suited to a men's prison given the recency of her transition, and she was then moved to a men's prison. This all happened over a year ago, and this is all standard procedure so any governor who is worried is just ignorant of the current legislation. The idea that she's just been dumped in a women's prison without any thought or consideration is complete misinformation, although unfortunately exactly what we've come to expect from Kemi Badenoch.

[@wolfhugs2221]

Women in the UK have been rpd in prison by men who have claimed to be female. It needs to be clarified that the intention is biological. How many more women have to be sacrificed for this ideology?

[@RayGoodspeed]

Exactly - deliberately misleading scare story

[@Coelacanth1]

Well done for bringing fact to counter the Tory misinformation campaign

[@NicolaKehoe]

Someone should tell Fogarty too

[@wolfhugs2221]

But Adam is and always will be a bloke. He should never have been housed in a women's prison. It's like people don't understand predators.

[@MijinLaw]

On the toilet story, assuming it's true, i obviously feel terrible for the woman but stick figures on doors aren't going to stop rapists. The thing that makes toilets safe generally is that they a kind of public space; any number of people could walk in at any time. It's pretty common nowadays for toilets to be unisex, it makes no difference because why would it?

[@Coelacanth1]

Even when toilets aren't unisex only a toilet attendant can stop the wrong sort walking in.

[@fabbie3862]

That’s not the point at all, and tbh that is an awful take. You’re basically saying signs on doors won’t stop rapists so just allow any men into women’s toilets because it won’t make a difference. No. If you allow (in law) males to enter women’s spaces, they cannot be challenged, and the risk factor increases. Dignity and privacy come into this as well as safety.

[@wolfhugs2221]

You seem to be unaware of the power of social norms. Also, do you know why separate facilities were created in the first place?

[@MijinLaw]

@wolfhugs @fabbie you both assert I'm wrong but do not address either of the points I made regarding toilets being a kind of public space and now the prevalence of unisex toilets.

[@wolfhugs2221]

@@MijinLaw do you know why separate facilities were created in the first place?

[@thehealinggame]

More irrelevant hot air from the Tories

[@brendadarling7743]

Womens rights just hot air?

[@NellJerram]

Very poor interview. Seems the questions were chosen to be the least challenging possible.

[@heyhonpuds]

Nick loves the Tories and will be in tears come July 5th 🎉

[@keith2366]

She wants to bring clarity? That is one of the funniest things she has ever said.

[@MaxMisterC]

Kemi Badenoch, will you be inspecting the contents of transitioners' trousers?

[@Coelacanth1]

Or looking under their skirt 'ere isn't there a law against upskirting

[@wickerbathtub3183]

Hearing her talk about this issue as though she knows anything about it is staggering and hilarious

[@joeewell4846]

The so-called "CASS REPORT" would never be accepted as a scientific study within the scientific community as it fails most if not all of the scientific criteria.

[@callummcintyre713]

As opposed the "Gender theory" which ticks all the boxes?

[@brendadarling7743]

⁠yes....what is gender?

[@Coelacanth1]

@@callummcintyre713 Gender Theory is in fact a part of Feminist Theory, for it is the Feminist movement that created Gender Theory. The popular undoing of which will detrimentally affect women's rights, as intended.

[@megansinor6575]

So basically Nick had his mate on for a chat

[@andym87]

Tories' Campaign Culture War in full swing, I see

[@brendadarling7743]

Womens rights are not a culture war

[@Coelacanth1]

It' all they have.

[@benwilliamstv]

Youre so close to getting it Kemi. Yes, clothes cant change who you are inside.

[@rainchains5306]

What a headbanger.

[@themikaylashow1987]

She doesn't mention the long waits to access hormones OR surgery. It takes YEARS just for your first appointment

[@wolfhugs2221]

Same as everything with the NHS. I've a friend with anemia due to heavy bleeding due to fibroids. She misses work frequently as she sleeps 16+ hours daily due to low iron. Despite how very ill she is, it took over a year to get an appointment with a specialist and it's a 2 year wait list for the only solution available, a hysterectomy. She cannot afford to go private. Any NHS service is stretched and every year there are thousands of people pass before the life saving treatment they need is available.

[@Coelacanth1]

Five years in my neck of the woods. Then it take two to three years to actually get the hormones and surgery if you want it seven to eight years from making the decision.

[@wolfhugs2221]

@@Coelacanth1 what happens if those hormones cause other issues like tumour growth?

[@Coelacanth1]

@@wolfhugs2221 If caught early enough it may be treated if it is warranted as not all tumours are malignant some are benign. If not, well life kills us anyway

[@wolfhugs2221]

@@Coelacanth1 caution before taking an action that could cause fatal harm seems sensible.

[@themidnightwoodsman1804]

Is this really a priority policy? There are real issues that need sorting.

[@Coelacanth1]

It's a distraction from both history and no solutions forthcoming.

[@ChrisPage68]

Odious person being interviewed by a slightly less odious person.

[@Joeblogs999]

Your picture 😂

[@chiraagshah269]

What a moronic conversation 🙄

[@bannon1000]

She is clueless

[@RayGoodspeed]

But most trans women are in men's prisons anyway, and even the Scottish case she quotes was only in solitary confinement in as women's prison temporarily and then transferred to a male prison.

[@bobsmith5441]

Most? Why not all?

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

@@bobsmith5441 as in the case highlighted some times mens prisons are full also Police cells are mixed by design and sometimes due to capacity issues have mixed detainees

[@Coelacanth1]

Well done for bringing some fact to this assertion.

[@Steve-wb60]

Surely this is not a party political issue. She’s just trying to prop up their core vote, it’s so cynical.

[@Gary-le7dz]

Shame badnack does not put as much effort into the nhs or child poverty her govt has sent into chaos last 14 years …..

[@callummcintyre713]

You know it's not her job, don't you?

[@Gary-le7dz]

@@callummcintyre713 yes also know itd been the Tory’s job last 14 years running the economy nhs and child poverty , how’s that working out for you!!!!

[@Gary-le7dz]

Yes also know it’s the Tory’s job to run the nhs economy and child poverty these last 14 years , how’s that working out

[@Faiythe]

Of course she's putting effort into the NHS and children. She's in a government that is banning trans people from hospital wards and just created regulations that are causing the NHS to have to provide urgent mental health support to trans children. Surely that's more important than year's long waiting lists and millions in poverty, right?

[@Coelacanth1]

@@callummcintyre713 Her job is to promote human inequality

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

more tory lies and bs.

[@callummcintyre713]

"Gender theory" is bs.

[@marieadams3720]

Oh yes this seems like an earth-shatteringly important issue for the election which will change all our lives!

[@AntonSmyth-od6rc]

Please Government tell me who I am 😂

[@alundavies1016]

Changing clothes absolutely changes who you are! Ask any police officer, soldier, clown, astronaut… She really is not the brightest.

[@thespiangamer6636]

I'd argue that uniforms indicate what you do, not who you are as a person.

[@alundavies1016]

@@thespiangamer6636 in which case does it matter what clothes people choose to wear at all?

[@jamesharrison3045]

Come on. This is fear mongering. Be better.

[@brendadarling7743]

No its not....language and it's meanings are important. There's so many areas of life where so called trans rights are treading all over women's rights. Do better

[@Coelacanth1]

@@brendadarling7743 '' There's so many areas of life where so called trans rights are treading all over women's rights.'' - such as and please provide your evidence.

[@brendadarling7743]

@@Coelacanth1 don't be a 🤡

[@birdinthebush]

What a caring project for a human been!

[@soton5teve]

so,she's admitting all clothes are unisex? Then

[@bobsmith5441]

What! The exact opposite

[@soton5teve]

@@bobsmith5441 so all clothes are unisex

[@Cornishvegan]

Utter B.S.

[@Human_Herbivore]

We've had Brexit, where does she think the people who are needed in the NHS and more surgeries are going to appear from?

[@sh8nn0n92]

Cheek swab. Material reality in law❤️🗣️

[@peterfry9473]

So it is to protect people. But not if ypou are Trans!!

[@callummcintyre713]

It's not upto the majority to cowtail to the minority.

[@solentforest]

@@callummcintyre713 what has a cowtail got to do with anything 🤣

[@callummcintyre713]

@@solentforest it's a regional play on "Kow tow".

[@solentforest]

@@callummcintyre713 regional where? Sounds more like someone who didn't understand it's said kowtow 🤣

[@callummcintyre713]

@@solentforest rural parts of Yorkshire and, Lincolnshire.

[@hanszieten6288]

Dire.

[@ChrisPage68]

Ear. 😉

[@Albanach-je1nk]

What countries have privatized there heath services ???

[@susanpettitt713]

More urgent matters love NHS nursing crisis please just go.....

[@brendadarling7743]

Womens rights are important. And we can be concerned about more than a couple of things at a time....we're women after all 👍

[@soton5teve]

Sunak to wear a dress next tiktok then, yes?

[@michaeltucek2368]

Should it not just be: Equality minister?

[@ECoventry]

All equalities are equal but some are more equal than others

[@ChrisPage68]

She doesn't believe in equality.

[@slinkiegirl2001]

I can not stand mammie kemi but she is right we needs to protect safe spaces for us women.and. Away from predatory men who say they women that is vital

[@pennycatterick5148]

Wow Nick,...never saw your dressing in a dress for an afternoon on the town! Poor Kemi,....delusional!! PennyXxx

[@Shystar79]

I am confused 😢

[@callummcintyre713]

Ridiculous that this is having to be done. That a world was created where people's feelings and imagination was prioritized over common sense.

[@TW-xs1qf]

It doesn't need to be done, it's a ludicrous, waste of time, nothing policy

[@solentforest]

*That a world was created where people lacked the common sense to see through a non-existent problem dressed up as a defining issue by a desperate party.

[@callummcintyre713]

@@solentforest non existent for you, as you either agree with all the nonsense or, bury your head in the sand.

[@callummcintyre713]

@@solentforest your burying your head in the sand. Though you're right about the party being desperate, this should have passed years ago when the nutters first started with the bs.

[@solentforest]

@@callummcintyre713 show these figures that prove it's an issue relative to say, the economy, the NHS, rogue water and rail companies, heck, even smart motorways. Yet somehow _I_ have my head in the sand? 😂

[@supercadcc]

Just do away with urinals

[@BrapMan]

Kemi Badenoch is such a very level headed and inteligent woman, and that is an honest observation of an individual who happens to be Conservitive. I personally am a Scouser, so obviously am not a fan of her party in any way whatsoever. I wish there were more politicians like her though, even though I think her support of Brexit, despite the obvious massive issues it has caused, is misplaced.

[@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan8419]

That’s the smartest bit of satire I’ve read all day. Very amusing.

[@DilbertWhitehead]

We're at that stage now where people would rather believe fantasy over reality, as long as that means siding against the Tories. Tribal

[@wolfhugs2221]

Exactly

[@Coelacanth1]

No people are just fed up with it, fed up that it is taking so government time that could be spent on fixing the cost of living crisis or improving NHS services. People can see potholes in the roads but they would be hard pressed to see a trans person in the street

[@DilbertWhitehead]

@@Coelacanth1 you best get used to that then as this incoming government is an identity politics master. We've seen nothing yet

[@vvwalker7261]

One of the only credible, commonsense politicians in the UK

[@abisolawilliams5874]

👍

[@wolfhugs2221]

Common sense. Of course the intention was biological, but the creation of a legal fiction has caused chaos.

[@johnrussell3961]

Those complaining the most what no legal tragenders in women’s spaces. This clarification doesn’t end that. So those who are bothered won’t be happy, and the rest of us don’t see it as an issue. Seems like a typical Tory plan.

[@SpenceJS87]

'Common sense'

[@Coelacanth1]

The problem with bringing the word ' biological ' into the equation is that you open the door to science. Science of which has discovered what between the legs doesn't always describe.

[@wolfhugs2221]

@@Coelacanth1 biological, physical. We all know that men and women are not the same - the relaxing of safeguarding has already had the inevitable result and loopholes have been used - women and children have been harmed. Solutions are needed, but allowing any man access to female spaces on his say so isn't working and the law needs clarifying to protect females.

[@TheAArmstrong]

Intersex is a rare phenomena though…

[@KittenisKitten]

we just want to change the law back, but this is new policy not step back for Trans equality

[@katherynet1424]

Sounds like common sense to me. I hope this is changed in Law soon to protect Women from predators.

[@DilbertWhitehead]

Basically changing everything back to how we had it before

[@johnrussell3961]

You mean protection from men!

[@solentforest]

@@DilbertWhitehead how it was before is how it is now. This is actively making a change for a non-existent problem.

[@DilbertWhitehead]

@solentforest missed what happened in 2004 then? And all the negative ramifications since, as a result of that?

[@solentforest]

@@DilbertWhitehead enlighten me

[@redpillras3456]

Kemi is based

[@solentforest]

...in cuckoo land

[@ChrisPage68]

Biased.

[@garethbrown9191]

Common sense.

[@bennybwoy9045]

I am not a fan of Kemi Badenoch, but i really dont have a problem with this at all.

[@earendil261]

Common sense

[@Coelacanth1]

Only in a communist scenario can common sense thrive, for free people are akin to cats

[@benargspeilburg3922]

Kemi, can you measure the distance from this bridge to the water for us all please? Thanks 👍👍👍

[@user-tl3hu2lh6u]

Desperate for votes I see! 🥱😴