Kemi Badenoch rips into Suella Braverman: A James O'Brien analysis | LBC

In the first Tory Shadow Cabinet Meeting, Kemi Badenoch ripped into Suella Braverman for having a 'very public' nervous breakdown during her speech in Washington.
James O'Brien has one question: 'What's going on?'
This comes as Suella Braverman attacked the Progress Pride flag and described it as "a symbol of our failure as Conservatives" during her National Conservatism Conference speech.
The former home secretary has criticised the outgoing Tory government for flying the flag, which represents the LGBTQ+ community, and accused them of allowing children to transition to a different gender.
"Kemi Badenoch has accused Suella Braverman of having a breakdown in America because she's still fighting the culture wars that for a long time Badenoch seemed to be a senior general in", says James O'Brien.
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[@dub604]

Suella Braverman and Kemi Badenoch are the British version of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert. 😂

[@user-sd3ik9rt6d]

Very close links

[@busawulf]

But you wouldn't want either of our two sat next to you in the theatre....😲

[@Barfbagdontsag]

Come on man, Braverman can at least read.

[@grahamfigg5817]

The correct form is Kemi Bad Enoch.

[@zoranblackie5921]

Even I can't imagine Kemi giving a handy during a west end musical, or Suella banging on about a certain religious space laser... but I can see so many similarities

[@kbspark]

"Never interrupt the enemy when they're making mistakes"

[@phillynuetron6937]

literally what the CIA reported China is doing to the West

[@binzy698]

"I'm more of a heartless sociopath!" "No, I am!'

[@ChrisumChrisumChrisum666]

What is a sociopath?

[@virtious8]

Woke is anything that infuriates the Daily Mail.

[@grahamfigg5817]

Pretty soon the Daily Fail will go back to its ongoing project of classifying everything in the universe as either causing or preventing cancer.

[@MrSinclairn]

@@DavidJones-ww9yb WTAF!?! 😂😂

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

Long live Woke!

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@user-ol6rd7pl5t ...which never existed just in the head of the haters. There is no party of "woke", there is nobody claiming "I am woke". It was just an offense used to grouping anybody I might hate because they are different.

[@jimwest7107]

Do you feel it's important Parliament has a high LGBTQ+ content? If so why?

[@yc9129]

For 14 years the Tories have infuriated me but now they are out of power I love the fact they are still imploding

[@chatham43]

@yc Why have they infuriated you? You mean the disastrous lockdown?

[@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive]

Proverbs 24:17-18 17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: 18 Lest the Lord see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.

[@papanurgle8393]

​@@HebrewsElevenTwentyFiveNah.

[@TalesOfWar]

They were imploding before they even came to office, but they were doing it publicly which is why they never had a plan for anything, were so massively incompetent and is how we got Brexit. Brexit was to stop the fighting, Cameron put party above country and it backfired for part AND country. And they're still at each others throats. I wonder how many sects there are now? I remember James counting at least 12 some time ago.

[@philmayhem]

jesus, we really should just stop giving this broken in-fighting party any airtime.

[@The_Scienceboy]

You are so right. The unprecedented coverage Ligel Garage got is the only reason we have Nat Cs in the House of Commons.

[@simulationkoyo]

they are just an extension of their failed far right american counterpart

[@West-End]

@@The_ScienceboyLigel garage? Are you talking about Nigel Farage? what does Nat Cs mean?

[@Courageous91]

​@@West-End- What does it rhyme with

[@GafftheHorse]

'We' don't. It' s the media owners. We could do with laws preventing media companies from owning more than one newspaper and tv channel. And the hostile government prevented from interfering in the BBC. The BBC should represent the political centre ground of the population.

[@iandhr1]

This Tory infighting reminds me of the Judean Peoples' Front against the Peoples' Front Of Judea.

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

Splitters!

[@richardbrown1189]

Only they were more competent!

[@bosshog36]

At least the Latin would be grammatically correct as most of the Tories had to learn it at school 😆

[@chrisfisher2839]

Love that

[@cunninglinguist-hu1dz]

You forgot about the Judean popular people's front.

[@01spen]

I hope that nobody forgets what the Tories did to this country in the last 14 years and keep them out of office forever.

[@choccybecky]

I like and respect your optimism. Here is my prediction based on the past is that things will get better. People will be lifted (however that may be) out of poverty. The economy will grow. Kids will have more opportunities to learn in a stable environment that is beneficial to working parents. The NHS will recover. We will being to feel prosperous, and have hope and THEN the opposition will start sowing the seeds of doubt. Look at how terrible this government is. Look how inclusive it is to minorities. Look at all those non English people there are helping us care for the elderly and sick, working in jobs that are too unsociable for most. Look at those disabled people on benefits taking XY and Z (even though they clearly they are not) Stop The Boats!! Repeating endlessly a pithy throwaway in joke said by the government (eg sorry we've spent all the money) create nonsense 3 word phrases (strong and stable, oven ready Brexit, anyone?) And the electorate will start listening intently. Forgetting all about the 14 years of hideousness we all endured. And the merry cycle of public funds being siphoned off to mates in higher places, while telling the electorate austerity is the only way forward begins!

[@josephinebrevig8748]

Here here ❤

[@BT-sf5db]

Labour will make things worse. We haven't had a proper Conservative government for years... we need to be freed from muslim rule

[@01spen]

@@BT-sf5db 14 years of conservative government and look at the mess worse than after world war 2, absolute disgrace of a party. Shouldn't get anywhere near another government, neither should Farage and his group and liars.

[@greamespens1460]

I hear from an ex conservative that Toby Blair advised Sunak and now he is advising Starmer

[@enquirer2.0]

Did Woke replace snowflake? I always found snowflake ❄️ a strange one as majority of the 'snowflakes' moaning were the ones furious over every little things from vegan sausagerolls to xmas signs or watever

[@PassiveAgressive319]

Woke replaced politically correct

[@Henez89]

Haha yeah. People whining about people who whine. Snowflake is classic projection.

[@shellieeyre8758]

Woke has replaced "political correctness gone mad".

[@101Mant]

​@@PassiveAgressive319and SJW.

[@smon4164]

It always changes, it was SJW (Social Justice Warrior) for about 5 years, that term never really caught on with the boomers though, it was more of a pre Trump / post 2008 financial crisis millennial thing.

[@rossallan3585]

A handy distraction to confuse the bigot. Something to get them furious, without ever telling them what they’re actually furious about.

[@josephinebrevig8748]

Agree

[@ohdearism]

It generally doesn't take much to get their blood pressure sky high. Just the sight of a minicab is usually enough, or that time they discovered that KFC uses halal chicken.

[@Barlos3131]

Spot on.

[@ChrisumChrisumChrisum666]

Everyone is someone else's bigot.

[@pccitizen1647]

Crooks vs crooks

[@Monklane79]

No-one's told Braverman that the war's over and she's still fighting. Badenock just seems to be permanently combative.

[@allip4226]

It's in your head, in your head, Nat-C, Nat-C, Nat-C...

[@TheWebstaff]

​@@allip4226😂😂😂 I've not see it written like that before! 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@unitysprings3631]

@@allip4226 Was the British flag a symbol of National socialism during the 2nd world war?

[@luminousfractal420]

badenock is a full blown mental case thats why 😂 she'd fight the tide for stealing her salt.

[@luminousfractal420]

​​@@unitysprings3631 symbol of eugenics but they wont mention that. two ideals.

[@paulc1553]

The vile turning on the vile. Kemi vs. Cruella.

[@eileencorcoran3057]

Exactly

[@amcc5887]

Exactly 👍👍👍

[@markperrin8098]

Are you kidding? Kemi a first rate politician.

[@Cam-mo7gq]

@markperrin8098 🤣🤣🤣

[@jimwest7107]

What has the massively qualified Badenoch done to be called vile?

[@hg82met]

Each is worse than the other. Just mindless ambition bundled together with hate, division. They have not a single positive contribution to make to this country.

[@josephinebrevig8748]

Hear hear

[@mattspintosmith5285]

The Conservatives need to be very careful. There were dozens and dozens of seats lost to the Lib Dems at the last election, and elsewhere where moderate voters have shifted to Labour. The last Lib Dem fall back was when they were in government. That won't be a factor next time. Keep going ever further to the extremes at your peril - never mind the harm it does to the country.

[@ScruffyTubbles]

Exactly my view. Reform voters are about 36% in proportion of potentially (potentially) voting Troy if Reform join with the Troy Party. This is about 5% of their vote share. So if 5% join the Troy Party on Reform coming into the Tory fold, what percentage of One Nation's would then leave to go to Lib Dems? 30% (7.2% of the Tory Vote), 40% (10.6%)? Be careful courting the Reform Party if I were you The Tory Party .....

[@23Stork]

@@ScruffyTubbles How much of those that they lost to the Lib Dems/Labour was to do with the tories being too culturally conservative though? They supported them what it was Boris Johnson afterall so I don't think that's the issue, I think they voted differently due to the economy being in such a poor state and the miriad scandals. Winning back voters from Reform and being a truly Right wing party is the only thing that can save them, the world is sick to death of moderates

[@user-rv2qx9yy9x]

@@23Stork I think the election analysis is tricky and delicate at both the left and right ends of the Tory party; I'm not talking about you, but I'm in general a bit amazed at the absoluteness of some people's pronouncements. One factor to bear in mind about Boris' victory was the deep unpopularity of Jeremy Corbyn among centrists; I reckon fear of him as PM caused a significant number of Tory/Lib floaters to hold their nose and vote for Boris. Starmer of course is a cuddly bank manager by comparison and probably freed up many anti-Tory votes.

[@ScruffyTubbles]

@@23Stork The 36% of Reform that will come back into the fold (5%).

[@jaybee4288]

With respect this is too simplified. While I agree there’s a possibility of a Tory wipeout a comeback of sorts is far more likely. Lib Dem’s got a lot of seats but it was disproportional to their votes and they seem more a tactical/protest vote than a party many believed in. This may be their best ever result in history and they will find many of these seats hard to defend. Likewise labours majority is made of water. As for Reform will they still be around? Farages parties have a tendency to disappear and there’s a lot of talk of him joining the conservatives. I really wouldn’t write them off, their biggest opponent is themselves not Labour or libs.

[@nickmoran1105]

She was pandering to the yanks... Truss did the same when we went to do a speech in the USA.

[@growlerthe2nd712]

And look at how that went 😂

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

"Let them fight."

[@bettychatfield2544]

I always think that woke and culture war is something politicians go to when they have no actual polices to campaign on.

[@rafd3593]

I refuse to buy Dyson products because of his support of Brexit and the way he treats his employees. Business is business, but it doesn’t have to be that way.

[@evanubi5]

Shalla. Braverman she is a mental patient Please don’t take her seriously she needs a jacket 🤣🤣🤣

[@faithpearlgenied-a5517]

Urghhhhh both of these vile women are horrendous. They just can't live in peace and let others live in peace. What is wrong with them? We have one life, it's so ridiculous spending the little time we have worrying so much about other people who are just trying to live their own lives. All this nastiness and division is knackering.

[@clivewalker5465]

Think it is in the '' breeding ''...........

[@brucedunn6845]

Problem is O'Brien is a bell end as well

[@tallpaul7130]

​@brucedunn6845 and yet you're here, watching said "bell end" ...which actually says more about you than you'd like...the phrase "takes one to know one" has now been proven to be true it seems 🤷‍♂️.... that means you, "🔔🔚" 🤫🤐

[@emdiar6588]

I just always assumed "culture wars" was just a name to describe self righteous Mail readers getting recreationally angry about people other than themselves enjoying the same rights they take for granted.

[@Paul-eb4jp]

They also get angry about things they can't say anymore, you know thinks like blackboard and manhole, they insist we can't say them and it's ruined their lives.

[@StiloVerso-kn7wn]

"recreationally angry" is exactly right. which, if you want to talk about decadence...

[@brendadarling7743]

⁠and the actual meaning of the word woman....

[@chatham43]

So what rights don't they have?

[@django3422]

​@@chatham43You really ought to learn to read.

[@user-hh8tf4tb9q]

Just what the tories want as a leader now, Kemi Badenough and Cruella Braverman, plus you have the silent assassin Priti Useleass waiting in the background.

[@denniskrust2137]

Two of the worst persons in the Tories. They belong in Reform but Reform doesn't want them because they aren't 'properly British.'

[@BT-sf5db]

Quite rite....reform is the only way to go

[@Adamtendo_player_1]

And being the “wrong” colour is why they wouldn’t be welcome in “Reform” either.

[@chatham43]

Nice try Dennis.😀😀

[@RichardGallagherthesecond]

​@@chatham43Troll

[@ShintarouShirosaki]

All friendly until there's a leadership contest on the horizon then they all turn on each other, this is what zero integrity looks like 😆

[@philbateman1989]

Something interesting to note is that Japan is a VERY conservative country, yet they don't shy away from noting the dark parts of their history in commemorating historical events. I noticed that when I visited last year. They will plainly state in museums about the war that objects from that time represent a shameful period for the country, stuff like the occupation of various countries etc. It's as it Braverman thinks that's something that should be swept under the carpet. It's not, and there is a tactful and conciliatory way to handle things about your country's history that are uncomfortable but also showing that lessons were learned. Awareness and sensitivity to the uncomfortable parts of a country's own history is not an "un-conservative" thing. It's an un-denialist thing.

[@andybrice2711]

I think there’s a balance to be struck. It’s important to plainly acknowledge our country’s dark past. But it’s not necessary to self-flagellate like we’re trying to atone for some original sin. Or to pretend that our country was uniquely evil. Most of global history was pretty brutal.

[@alanfletcher5720]

Woke is a catch all term used by total helmets to describe anyone with anything like a social conscience.

[@walrtbstudios5430]

Woke: ‘Alert to discrimination and injustice’. That’s it.

[@teamalpha7423]

@@walrtbstudios5430it’s all American imported bs, the UK don’t fall for Hollywood terms 🙄 what ever next “Sleep” 🤣🤣🤣

[@johnmarvesley1355]

Just ignore them, they are an irrelevance now for 4/5 years.

[@daveyboy7964]

Try 45 years.

[@EPIPHANY544]

Even after 5years make sure if she is still around DON'T VOTE FOR THIS PARTY EVER !!!

[@mitchverr9330]

Braverman 100% knew what the "occupied territory" means, she is talking about the LGBT as the enemy, something that isnt British, an outside group, a group to be removed.

[@faithpearlgenied-a5517]

She should be removed.

[@surose7506]

She should know all about "occupied territory" given her embedding and Israeli plant credentials

[@chatham43]

@mitch ....I agree with her too!

[@emmabentley7945]

Being a transwoman who transitioned when I was 17 , and had supportive parents . It genuinely sickens me where the UK has gone. So much right wing politics now. I have done nothing to anyone and all I want to do is live my life I would never harm anyone . And the government we used to have treated trans people like dirt and tried as much as they could to marginalise us. I’d have rung James and discussed this , but not able to. Suella Bravernan. Is a horrible woman as is Kemi

[@mup_pet]

I don't know much about this issue, but wiki informs me the first transexual was in the 1930s, and they were celebrated. You don't have to go back that many years to notice that most people couldn't give a moneys either way. I still believe the vast majority of people still don't care, or more accurately, hold the opinion that people should be able to live their lives how they want to, and whatever makes them happy. Don't believe the gaslighting in the media, most of them are as bad as the Tories.

[@faithpearlgenied-a5517]

It's disgusting how trans people have been treated by their own government. Not only should it be none of the government's business, it's not their place to bully any of our citizen. You literally pay their wages and they're there to represent us all, work for us all and get on with their friggin jobs.

[@anllpp]

❤

[@charlottedowson9460]

I fully agree 👍

[@brendadarling7743]

Stay out of women's spaces

[@m0rtifiedpenguin]

They stay in the echo chamber and thought everyone was in there with them!

[@richardbrown1189]

Can't beat a bit of blue on blue action. Mind you, what Cruella is even doing in the Tory party is a mystery.

[@josephinebrevig8748]

They want her badly in Reform 😂😂

[@chatham43]

@richard Explain what that even means!

[@RichardGallagherthesecond]

​@@chatham43Clueless troll 🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Neil070]

She'll be in Reform by the end of the year, if she doesn't get the tory leadership. Thats my prediction, of which I'm confident

[@monkeyboy8424]

It's my experience that Badenoch is ignorant and was incompetent in her role as Business Secretary. As such, she's qualified for leader.

[@chatham43]

@monkeyboy So what is your experience in politics...it must have been fascinating!😊

[@monkeyboy8424]

@@chatham43 It's my 'personal' experience that Badenoch is ignorant and was incompetent in her role as BEIS Secretary. That's all you need to know chummy.

[@smon4164]

@@chatham43 Is that you Kemi?

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

"Woke" is a word used by those on the right when they know they've lost the argument & have nothing inteligente left to add to the conversation, it's a bit like "Snowflake".

[@ukbloke28]

Woke started as a left wing term, culturally appropriated from the black power movement. When dissenters became aware of it, the left decided to try and gaslight everyone into thinking that 'the right started it'.

[@grahamfigg5817]

Kemi Bad Enoch and Cruella Braverman only have a future as pantomime villains. They’ve really got to rake it in this Christmas before the public moves on.

[@markperrin8098]

Kemi for PM, shes brilliant.

[@aaronaaronson7600]

​@@markperrin8098😂😂

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

They would both be best at playing the rear end of the pantomime horse.

[@musiclover9361]

​@@markperrin8098she's brilliant at computer hacking (a crime!), that's for sure!

[@ScruffyTubbles]

@@musiclover9361 I wonder what A Level Grades she got with very pushy parents and a Public School. Not that I believe in inherent thickness or anything....

[@kingflynxi9420]

This will be fun!

[@PassiveAgressive319]

Not if one of them win

[@kingflynxi9420]

@@PassiveAgressive319 Watching the Tory party try to squeeze into the political niche reform are in will be fun

[@girlinagale]

I wouldn't feel particularly safe in a public loo with a Tory.

[@richardisaacs3574]

If Rishi Sunak had any bottle at all, he'd suspend Suella Braverman immediately.

[@chatham43]

For what? Sorry for having to force you to explain what you actually mean.

[@tanja9364]

@@chatham43Being alive and still in the Conservative Party!

[@naveedakhtar634]

@@chatham43for not having a chin

[@kevinfarrell523]

Thank you as always Mr O'Brien!

[@nathandts3401]

Not a new question. People have been asking what woke means for years. Why did they do it? Because it distracted from the state of the country after austerity caused families to go hungry, the disabled to appeal for benefits which they were denied by assessors with no medical qualifications and the healthcare service being set on fire.

[@chatham43]

Arson too. Did you ring 999?

[@mej6519]

has any one got any pop corn left? iv eaten mine during election night.

[@damianleah6744]

Cats fighting in a sack.

[@bruiSER-]

Ever seen the meme of a load of spiderman characters pointing the finger at each other in a circle? I can picture that's exactly how that SHADOW cabinet meeting went when asked 'so whose to blame'

[@hotdognights1]

You couldn't get odds at Ladbrookes on Cruella throwing a strop and joining Nigel's Nazis.

[@chatham43]

Ladbrookes?.....you from Yorkshire?😂

[@seanmaguire8250]

Having problems with offending flags? Uncomfortable with wearing a rainbow lanyard? Then call Braverman and Badenoch Solicitors, we put the right into righteousness.

[@GrubStLodger]

To think, the last few culture secretaries thought the position existed to perpetuate these culture wars.

[@papadeenw6]

More tory lies braverman was the home secretary and had the power to have the pride flag taken down she was the boss and the pride flag could've been taken down whenever she wanted braverman is blatantly lying again

[@chatham43]

It's just a flag. Get over it!

[@RichardGallagherthesecond]

​@@chatham43Nurse! Nurse! He's out of bed again!

[@spursgog835]

These 2 people are like vultures fighting over a rotting corpse.

[@edmurth]

It’s a way to get people to vote against their own best interests by appealing to their worst instincts.

[@Rosiedelaroux]

I love Kemi - what sad remains of the conservatives will be buried forever if she’s up front. And it’s NOT ABOUT race.

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

It's a toxic combination of bigotry and a deflection from far more important issues.

[@Cos-mog]

Woke is actually a really big problem if not THE problem. Because it closes down debate and simplifies everything into oppressors and oppressed. Whereas in real life things are not black and white but grey…

[@user-ln9ft3qp1v]

Imagine what Israel did to the Palestinians when we couldn't see their crimes on our phones.

[@BaronFanhope]

Braverman is the enemy of everyone except for older/retired Tories that live in villages/shires, who are scared of any change/differences. Kemi is far more palatable to the masses.

[@britturk123]

No she is not palatable at all, Kemi is a rigid robot who tries her best to answer questions without truly knowing what the answer is. She smiles through sound bites and pathetic populism. Her recent three day argument with David Tennent showed that she still thinks like a teenager and is a stubborn person who somehow has to have the last word. I think she also thinks that being a politician is cool, which is ridiculous.

[@Michael-td3gz]

She Attacks everyone

[@MichellEllis]

They all eat themselves in the end...

[@rprobp186]

The left typically do

[@martinobrien7110]

At last , we can see the light at the end of the tunnel . Thank You James for seeing us through the darkest of times .

[@andrawp_]

bad enough v cruella 😂 im not uk citizen but the phrase alone is pretty bizarre 😂

[@josephinebrevig8748]

😂😂

[@octavius32a64]

To quote a wiseman "let them fight"

[@MarkusMaximus2000]

The broader culture wars was the controlling rich elite convincing the vulnerable, poor and downtrodden were the cause of each others' suffering.

[@Frithogar]

I unsubscribed from the New Statesman podcast because they have taken an anti-trans editorial stance.

[@TheRogueDM]

The majority of mainstream newspapers still do this unfortunately.

[@Evemeister12]

Because they refuse to embrace the madness?

[@brendadarling7743]

Because they are pro reality?

[@achmadosman9807]

Suella is a professional fly looking for an ointment. She is not fussy.

[@bosshog36]

Culture Wars are over hopefully, I'm off to listen to some Culture Club

[@paramjitsingh-uk9fl]

Why is a pride flag on a government building? You couldn’t make this up

[@PaulaXism]

Why is there a Ukranian flag flying at the end of Downing St?

[@abehikura]

Someone I was talking to referred to a woman having a job as woke... so the word has lost any sense of what little meaning it had.

[@faithpearlgenied-a5517]

On a channel I used to watch on KZbin years ago, the male channel owner started bringing his wife in on some of his videos and after a while he changed the channel name to make it plural to reflect there were now two people on it. One (presumably male) subscriber went on a massive rant at him in the comments about him being so 'woke' and how he was unsubscribing over it 😂 it was wild. All because he recognised his own wife as a human being and changed the channel name to a plural to account for her presence. These people are absolutely unhinged.

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

Cultlure war is over, give culture peace as chance!

[@kkit8629]

In the Brains of right wing/conservatives & other life failures., Culture wars are present everywhere. At least that's what they fill their empty loner living & never bother to come out of house, because it takes having friends & family.

[@keithheaven176]

A) Deflection ; B) Deflection.

[@zombies66]

Braverman may be educated, but she is bonkers . I reckon she will end up with Reform . Please Labour, be successful 🙏

[@chatham43]

@zombie So why is she bonkers..or haven't you thought that through yet?

[@zombies66]

Why ? I haven't thought that through yet .It is possibkr i will never know why . I have more to do with my life . She is bonkers though . Like many torys, she can sound bang on the money , then suddenly they turn and appear to have no heart nor understanding of the people below their tyoe .... 🤷‍♂️. They can be utterly horrible ! Please enlighten me .

[@RichardGallagherthesecond]

​@@chatham43Nurse! Nurse! He's out of bed again! 🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@vdd]

The culture wars are such a waste of time and have ground politics to a halt far too many times

[@linyarin]

Denying history as it doesn't fit in with your ideology reminds me of Andrew Pierce stating that, unless the Mail reports it then never happened.

[@josephinebrevig8748]

Correct

[@suzimonkey345]

The culture wars worked for Trump! Although some characters tried to kick-off the same here, it never really happened! The press & media had a go but the British people aren’t really into any social wars. We may like having a moan but we have interest in revolution or hating our neighbours.

[@georgesmyth6577]

The adoption of said culture wars was an attempt to harness the Republican Party playbook.

[@allanchurm]

if Badenock gets to be the leader the torys are finished..what a horrid person..does she think attacking everyone will make her look like a leader ( years ago they were called bullys )

[@johnrussell3961]

In the movie Naopoleon , he says you fight for what you don’t have, He wants land. The British want honour., So we where fighting culture wars , because we don’t have any,

[@zuzauramek9850]

Now it is popular to shove the word "woke" as negative even though you don't know what the word means anymore. If you ask what woke means to them everyone will say different things but generly they will not know .

[@9thwonder373]

The fact that James has to remove “transgenders” from the debate for his position to make sense says A LOT.

[@colewood3297]

Yes. It speaks to his country's sad and pathetic obsession of medeling in the lives of people that most other developed countries have seen fit to leave alone

[@SloopyJohnG]

Nature abhors a vacuum, and a political party has to have a set of policies. As Conservative 'thought' became increasingly threadbare, they discovered a sideshow, 'culture wars', and moved it into the spotlight of their internal debate, to cover their policy bankruptcy. That's the 'why'. But as for *what* the phrase 'culture wars' meant, the answer was 'anything you like' (or rather, don't like). A meaningless irrelevance, elevated to major issue, because of the absence of anything real to offer the electorate.

[@susanthompson5381]

Don’t trust bannock she is devious and a tory

[@simoncullum5019]

I dont like Kemi and i dont like Cruella but which is worse ? Only one way to find out , fight !

[@user-km4jo2gw7j]

Id watch that on pay per view 😂

[@mhoppy6639]

@@user-km4jo2gw7j could be a bit like robot wars but throw truss in there as well comedy effect.

[@keithluxford2484]

Two women enter, one women leaves Two women enter, one women leaves.......

[@darrencartledge6530]

Brilliant, its whats left of the tories tearing itself apart. Brilliant. So glad these two headbangers kept there seats.theyll keep the tories out for years.but you can see bravermans plan,attract reform voters back.

[@marshy9880]

Both are truly vile "people"

[@GafftheHorse]

Maybe the conservatives maybe though they could galvanise and get their base angry enough by talking culture wars topics such as has been done in the US. But Britain just isn't bothered about most of the topics that angry up right wing Americans so all they had left was trans issues so it turned out to be a tank loaded with blanks.

[@jesmarina]

I have to say - as a Danish person - I find that James and The Hitch are some of the best British orators I've ever heard. I love their mastery of the language.

[@timbrown4576]

Suella, Kemi. Acting like this is not going to serve you. Just try and be a little kinder.

[@bookofdaveandsteve]

Trans people deserve understanding and compassion too - "putting them out of the equation" is not a morally neutral act

[@liz-qq9kb]

Absolutely 💯

[@mandyharewood886]

​@@liz-qq9kb Women are being taken out of the equation.

[@MarkusMaximus2000]

​@@mandyharewood886How? Because JK Rowling said?

[@liz-qq9kb]

@@mandyharewood886 how?

[@catherinewilson3880]

​Nonsense.

[@paulbrown2971]

Simple attempt at distraction from the reality surrounding us. Same as the immigration issue. Some of our great explorers are lauded for their funded and government backed trips into Africa. I’d say every person who has made the perilous journey with so few possessions from Africa (our prosperity has profited enormously from plundering Africa) to our shores are making heroic journeys. I’d welcome that sort of perseverance and dedication. Loads of Livingstones.

[@russellharris-t3t]

every single time someone enters the UK it should save the UK money. it costs way over 200k between the tax payer and the parents nowadays to create a new tax payer. It baffles me that we charge thousands of pounds when giving people visas so that they can join our nation and share our national debt

[@judehardman146]

Nigel would not want her .she is not the right colour.

[@neilshots]

So relieved to get rid of these tory nutters, who since the Olympics have managed to break the country. Thank you James for keeping a lot of us sane during these horrible years where we went back to the middle ages.

[@brianferguson7840]

I want to see Braverman and Badenock in a caged mud fight to decide the leadership, with a bikini clad Priti Patel as referee 😳😳 Or is that just me ???🤔

[@brianferguson7840]

OK, I'm ringing for a doctor's appointment now, Sorry for the imagery. 😕😟😒

[@eileencorcoran3057]

Hahha yep...

[@theolddog5129]

It's just you! 😄 I want to see all three of them enjoying a long and prosperous life in Rwanda.🤣

[@amcc5887]

😂😂😅

[@Barfbagdontsag]

Just you, man. Just you.

[@jackpayne4658]

I can almost feel sorry for Tory party members - imagine having to choose between two brown-skinned women, when your ideal white man is sitting just outside!

[@markperrin8098]

Kemi for supreme leader of the universe!

[@Bertrum123]

Whos that ??

[@faithpearlgenied-a5517]

😂

[@benji.B-side]

Looks like I'm going to have to stock up on the popcorn. 😁

[@oowoy8662]

Cruella should be sent on the next flight to Rwanda.

[@user-sq7nk9us6f]

Suella and Badenoch deserve each other. The country deserves far better. We need a competent opposition not repugnant ego driven dramas.

[@chatham43]

Don't be crassly naive...it's just politics!

[@Emma-kz3zr]

James let's NOT ignore the irrational hate which has been projected and promoted against Transgender people by the Media and both Tories and Labour. & If you don't understand that the bottom line is homophobia and cynical othering you genuinely need to spend some time self reflecting on your own ignorance.

[@goldfishbowl42]

I think you're referring to Iain M. Banks scifi novels, where The Culture were at war with the Idiran Empire

[@Henbot]

What were the culture wars? Noise.

[@codswallop164]

Diversity is such a strength.

[@bbrs925]

Nice that’s original ! Thanks for that comment haha

[@reaceness]

It's a rule of nature.

[@terry9819]

Diversity of thought especially.

[@aaronaaronson7600]

Ah this old chestnut again 😂😂

[@JohnPark-xf2gq]

Which diversity did you go to .Oxford or Cambridge.i went to Oxford although to be fair it was only for a weekend.

[@jeremyatkinson4976]

They were a cynical diversionary tactic, to take attention away from the Tories own failures Apparently Braverman was actually a believer. Not sure if that makes her better or worse than say Badenoch.

[@TheMelbournelad]

I like to always come back with “yes I am awake to social ills in this world” when ever someone says your woke

[@131scavy]

The Paradox of Tolerance isn't a paradox, it's a misunderstanding of what's being offered. Tolerance is a social contract not a moral stance. If you are not willing to also agree to the social contract you are not entitled to it's benefits. If you're going to be intolerant you are not due tolerance as you haven't agreed to the terms to begin with. Brexiteers should be able to understand that exclusion easily, if you aren't part of the club agreeing to tolerate people then you don't get the benefits of being tolerated.

[@blindfreddy9157]

Culture evolves, bigots don't.