(Ken) Ham & AiG News - Sell me this pen, Ken.

[@joeyw.7131]

Thanks to you, Paulogia, I've been humming "ham and eggs" all. Day. Long.

[@sagerider2]

Listen to the 1812 Overture. That'll blast it out. Best one, Don't play it too loud, it blasted out the speakers in the recording. LOL kzbin.info/www/bejne/noK9pnSrfMeaha8

[@lisahenry20]

@@sagerider2 I was worried the link would be to Rick Astley. The Internet has ruined my trust in people.

[@PixieoftheWood]

The way people are horrified by assisted suicide confuses me. Most people say that it would be cruel to keep a pet alive when they're in obvious pain, but a lot of these people are horrified by the thought of offering the same courtesy to humans. The only real difference is you can talk to a human and verify that they really do consent, where with animals we ultimately have to make an educated guess about what they'd want. While I think we can make a pretty good guess as to which an animal would prefer, forcing a human who is in pain, will always be in pain, and is begging for death to continue to live is obviously inhumane.

[@016329]

PixieoftheWood Agreed. Surely one of the most fundamental human rights of all is to have control over how and when your life ends.

[@thecraftycyborg9024]

None of the people I’ve met who are horrified by the idea have never personally had stage 4 cancer or a severe permanent, painful, and/or progressive disability. The people with those circumstances tend to be more supportive of assisted suicide. I’ve had to make the call to have a pet put down and I’m glad that option existed. The sister of my soul died 2 days ago after years of horrible suffering. Her last year in particular got so bad *I* wasn’t even allowed to visit the last 6 months- no one was, as any noise in the room started off uncontrollable pain and dystonia (extreme muscle spasm). I miss her with agonizing sorrow. I keep crying. But I’m also glad her pain has ended. She will return to being stardust, as we are meant to when our days are over. She touched a lot of lives in her 26 years and I will forever be a better person for having had her in my life.

[@axer3515]

It is from religion. That evil bitch "Theresa of Calcutta",who no one should call mother, used to refuse pain meds for the dying because suffering brings you closer to God! Yeah she needs a sainthood. She gave no medical care to dying people but she went to the best doctors around the world when she had the sniffles. Hopefully she is burning in he'll right next to John Paul.

[@axer3515]

you have 100 percent right on end of life. You can pray to God to take you all you want.

[@lebojay]

Your reasoning is irrelevant. Their magical sky fairy simply doesn’t allow it because he’s perfectly moral. Go figure that one out.

[@parkjammer]

Ken Ham is telling the truth. I know because I had lunch with the Great Pumpkin and a chatty burning bush and they told me so...

[@mrrolandlawrence]

the cops better check kens basement then. make sure he didn't sacrifice a sons to god as he may have been commanded to do so. human sacrifice is a sure way to show god how much you love him.

[@parkjammer]

@@mrrolandlawrence Especially if they are burned on an alter... apparently Joe Deity likes the aroma. I was thinking something less troubling, like "fresh linen" or "essence of Lot's wife".

[@kullerva5738]

I appreciate these videos a lot. I'm another one that escaped childhood indoctrination from fundies. (If you haven't covered it already, the latent misogyny and the way women are taught to internalize it within fundamentalist churches is chilling.) I'm lucky I had an agnostic mother...

[@Paulogia]

Thanks. Glad we both found it to this side.

[@northwestpioneer7057]

This video should have thousands of more views... Admirable work Paulogia. Ham is just another Snake Oil salesman. 500 years ago he would have been one of the friars that made money selling indulgences, relics or pieces of the cross.

[@phillyphakename1255]

Look at all these scientists trying to turn lead into goal. The REAL gold is the love of God, and these secularists are destroying your children.

[@jayg342]

I'm glad to hear we are making some progress away from creationism. Thanks for your part in this. Keep up the good work.

[@jbthefirst960]

you are exact right in your assessment of Ken Ham

[@TheKyrix82]

So...should I refer to my Ham and Egg hot pocket as a creationist hot pocket?

[@Paulogia]

yes!

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

What are you kidding, of course. Sheesh. Some people.

[@claybrown1258]

Yes. But it's good that you eat it and wipe at least one ham and egg off the face of the planet

[@paulnixon6587]

Just loving that Cornerstone Christian Academy is paying to advertise on your videos, Paulogia! I think I'll enroll right now!

[@Paulogia]

ha!

[@mikeyvester]

When religious leaders come over to our side, we get a tremendous asset. All that sales skill and experience makes for a very compelling atheist.

[@Paulogia]

like me?

[@boink666]

Such a catchy intro jingle. Ham and Aigs!

[@jb888888888]

14:31: I will note that when I was young in the early 1970s, most stores were closed on Sundays. Now, just about everything is open (except apparently Chik-fil-a).

[@jb888888888]

@Marilyn Newman I was noting that respecting the Sabbath is not unchanged which he says in the video that it is, given that nowadays most businesses are open on Sundays when they used to be closed. Also alcohol sales are now allowed on Sundays (perhaps starting later in the day than the rest of the week) when it used to be that alcohol wasn't allowed to be sold on Sundays. I suppose it depends on where you live/d.

[@ruthbaker5281]

I’m convinced that at heart the need that Ham’s followers and others like them is not a need for a solution to “sin” but a need for a solution to death. They fear death and so reach to Christianity for a way out (which Christianity offers-just believe enough, no questioning or you might actually die, but believe enough and you live forever). All the rest flows from that fundamental issue. “If others believe in evolution I might be convinced, too. And if I start to think that evolution might be true I might question the Bible. But if I question the Bible...”

[@phillyphakename1255]

I think the love of your fellow man matters a lot, too. "If I don't send my kid to Ken Ham School, I will be in heaven, but my kid will burn for eternity in hell, and I will be compelled to laugh at them for their failure to believe in God, which is actually my failure because I didn't send them to Ken Ham School, and I don't want that so I NEED to send them to Ken Ham School."

[@TheGrassdawg]

I and my sister spent two years in a Christian school that used Pacific Accelerated Christian Education material (PACE). Horrible results on both of us. Even in the early 70's they were screaming about communist and secular humanist degrading education in public schools. My father pulled us out because he saw what was happening to us, my mother, good Christian that she was, lied about why we were pulled out. Anyway, Satanic influence was only marginally acknowledged until the late 70's when that and Bigfoot and UFO' really hit the scene. Watching this episode brought back those fond memories. I also like the use of The Python clips. Very apropos!

[@DocBree13]

I spent two years in an ACE school in the 70s! (didn’t know you west coasters got your own version, lol). Did the girls wear blue and red dresses and everyone had their own wooden cubby holes?

[@TheGrassdawg]

Brenda Paduch We did have our own wooden cubbyholes, but no uniforms per se. We had a strict dress code and we all car pooled from miles around that beautiful valley. Parents switched off on driving duties and nowadays 6-7 kids crammed into one vehicle with no seatbelts is illegal. Who knew? The confusion among my friends was intense (we had gone to the same school 1-6th grade and suddenly I was gone!). My Fundamentalist Christian family was odd already and it didn’t help that I was going to a “special” school. Strange times that definitely left scars.

[@trevorlunn8442]

Another great, insightful analysis of a group more people should regard as a *mírage à trois* of deceptive practices. I'm especially impressed with how cleverly they contort the idea of being Christian as to only being that which comports with their views... a type of online *bonfire of the vanities* applied to objects of the faith of others. _P.S. I wonder if Bodie Hodge thinks condominium is the foil material in which prophylactics are sheathed?_

[@TheGeekRoom]

Ken is a con man. The Ark thing is proof of it.

[@Paulogia]

He built it using essentially crowd-funding donations that he'll never have to pay back... so whatever money is collected between now and demolition day is his.

[@thechairman1318]

Funds from private donors & the state, a 75% property tax cut per year on a piece of property last valued at $48 million, $16 million in tax credits for 'tourism' that the boat hasn't brought to Grant County, KY (the awarding of which was in violation of Kentucky state law; private entities seeking state subsidies cannot engage in discriminatory hiring/firing practices), and Kenny Boy recently took the for-profit side of the enterprise and sold it to the non-profit side for $10 to avoid a state 'safety tax' intended to secure funds for firefighters... Oh yeah, it's a fucking scam. It's a good thing for Ken that the book he demands must be taken all-or-nothing, word-for-word never says anything about paying your taxes! _Oh wait it does_

[@0x777]

It would be a form of poetic justice if the ark, of all things, burned down and the firefighters, lacking equipment, couldn't save it.

[@fuscinula]

@@0x777 what would be even more ironic is if they started praying for rain to put the fire out...

[@misuvittupaa8068]

@@fuscinula and that rain comes and flood destroys the ark

[@michaelannen4168]

Xmas joke: Wise man bumps his head entering the stable says "Jesus Christ!", Mary says, "I like it". Joseph says, "Beats Erving"

[@SatiricalMonkey]

Ham's so old, when he was a teen he was hanging witches at Salem.

[@SalSwan]

I feel the saying fear sells fits here.

[@humanbn1057]

"Catastrophic change!" The religious have been saying that for thousands of years.

[@ChristopherCudworth]

That moment when he laments his own grandkid says it all.

[@disappointedoptimist8659]

Sometimes I can't tell if he believes what he says he believes or if he actually understands evolution and just wants to takes people money

[@robertrichardson2120]

Disappointed Optimist - A variation of Poe's Law. I have wondered this about guys like him for years.

[@cluckeryduckery261]

that's the exact issue I keep coming back to when talking with flat earthers... the whole time I'm thinking "there is no possible way he/she actually believes this... what's the angle? What's their motive" Only a few times have i been reasonably sure than an adult human being with ast least 12 years of formal education actually believed the earth was flat. Although that typically came along with some other issues that made me legitimately worried for the well being of that person.

[@fred_derf]

He just wants to takes people money.

[@Dragoderian]

It's more complex than that, and I think one of the Paulogia episodes goes into it? Not sure which one. I could also be thinking of one of the other Ark-related employees, but I digress... Ken Ham is probably a genuine believer who also realises that evolution is probably true. However, from his perspective evolution draws people away from Christianity and towards, therefore, Hell. He has to be opposed to evolution if he's going to preach.

[@charlierichardson3169]

Wait what movie is that clip at 5:40 from?! I need to know!

[@WildPhotoShooter]

Question......Why didn't Ken Ham stay in Australia and do what he is doing in Kentucky over there ?

[@InaneDragon]

Regarding teaching evolution, I think the article is also talking about getting people to understand how evolution actually works. I know many well educated people who "accept" or "believe in" evolution, but don't actually understand how evolution works generation to generation. Most often, I get some variation of Lamarckism out of people who think they understand evolution. Before anyone thinks I'm putting myself on a pedestal & saying "oh, you guys don't understand"... I have only a superficial understanding of it after reading a dozen or so books & multiple biology classes at the high school & college level.

[@michaelwillis8966]

okay, I've been listening and watching for a week or three now. Watched dozens of articles. WHAT ARE THE LYRICS OF THE INTO SONG?! I hear "Ham and eggs, Ham and eggs, Flip them, F*&k them, Flip them, F$*k them, Ham and eggs!" Can ANYONE tell me what they are?!

[@edumont88]

Where is Canada on that chart? No love for Canada. :(

[@mrbearbear83]

I find it funny the advertisement on this video was for a Christian app for "personal evangelism"

[@stevenbaumann8692]

Why is Sham saying "our"? As far as I know, he's not even a U.S. citizen.

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

In fairness Pope Francis is a chemist, not a biologist but closer to Ken Ham. That said Pope Francis gets a little to much credit on evolution, sure he supports it but John Paul II did as well. In fact the Church had been saying evolution isn't opposed to God since 1950.

[@thecraftycyborg9024]

19:50 - “You sound like a goat!” I think that woman finally said something I agree with, lol.

[@Poseidon6363]

I live in filthy secular England and it's great.

[@Paulogia]

envy!

[@thehotyounggrandpas8207]

Even here in Spain, where people flock to church on Sundays, I have never heard anyone deny evolution.

[@phileas007]

Truly, nobody expects the Spanish inquisition !!!!

[@thehotyounggrandpas8207]

Be careful with your flippant remarks... you might end up in the comfy chair!

[@phileas007]

oh no, not the comfy chair ........

[@KvDenko]

Hey Paul, I want to start a little channel of my own to document my deconstruction and journey. I still consider myself a Christian, and I have access to the Slavic evangelicals in the states and Canada, being a religious refugee from the Soviet Union myself. Could I use some of your material in my videos as resources? You've done so much research, and I feel like it should be presented to more wider audiences, which I'd like to help with! Thanks Kris

[@Paulogia]

Please do! I'd be honored. Send a link when you're up and running. Merry Christmas.

[@KvDenko]

@@Paulogia Merry Christmas to you as well! My video might be terrible, I want to take on Kent Hovind's Q&A session from a Slavic youth conference, and there's so much b.s. to wade through! Thanks for the support Paul!

[@graveyardshift1217]

It's the classic Hegelian Dialect, a technique that religions and governments mastered long ago.

[@lisahenry20]

2:28 it doesn't really work, since "write your name down" can be interpreted to mean type your name and most people have their phones with them at all times. Plus even if writing doesn't include typing, you can get a paint type of application and write it on the touch screen.

[@CNCmachiningisfun]

Ken's pens don't work. They are a write off!

[@DBCisco]

lol

[@stevenbaumann8692]

Why is Sham saying "our"? As far as I know, he's not even a U.S. citizen. Actually. We have witnessed stars being born. The ark is failing.

[@RagicalPlays]

It's like watching a child trowing a temper tantrum if things don't go his way...

[@whodiniblewitt2544]

I really dig the theme tune

[@williamnichols429]

Reminds me of a gag WEBN FM used to do. Brute Force Cybernetics- the company that creates a need and then fills it. Anybody remember their ads for Tree Frog beer? It doesn't taste like much but, it gets you there FASTER!

[@disappointedoptimist8659]

God damn it ken makes me angry

[@Paulogia]

right?!?

[@0x777]

Funny. I heard god say the same thing.

[@pup1008]

For some *REALLY* strange reason *Georgia* speaks to my depths! She could sell me some of that tail!

[@dainland432]

I'm here 3 years later to tell you that, while you and I have different taste, I admire you.

[@OdinMagnus]

Good news, the ark is sinking. Ken is blaming atheists btw.

[@Paulogia]

I don't think we deserve the credit, but that's fine.

[@OdinMagnus]

Paulogia Yeah, not our fault. so many atheists went to laugh at it. we gave lots of money to it

[@AnaseSkyrider]

Odin Magnus It is!?!? OMG HAHAHA!

[@theorangeninja6486]

The Ark sank a loooong time ago. The recovery efforts are costly, and every time they think they've got it floating again, it promptly springs another six hundred and sixty six leaks. Down it goes again...

[@probablynotmyname8521]

This is why i tend to define my lack of belief as “god doesnt solve a problem i have”.

[@Paulogia]

Love that.

[@TheSchmuckLook]

Yes, Ken Ham & crew are great at sales. Too bad they are NOT selling a proveable product. I'll ask again, Ken, who wrote that book you hold in such esteem, the Bible? If you cannot say who WROTE it or when it was written, you cannot possibly know if it is true> If, indeed, it is the inspired Word of God then God inspired a lot of people to write about people they did not know from ages before the writers were born. To truly believe that requires gullibility or the need to be told what to do, think and say.

[@kittilyEm]

Maybe one day I'll present Ken with the fact that I had a complete Christian education and went to an incredibly fundamental traditional church and still left Christianity. How would he explain that I wonder.

[@Nekulturny]

Bodie does know that Dr. Who is older than Back to the Future... right?

[@Daito8]

YOU FORGOT BILLY MAYS!

[@the-trustees]

Hey Paul. Every time Ken calls atheism or evolution a religion, I wonder to what end. Is he attempting to denigrate them by referring to them a a religion? So, my question is... Do you actually know what his mindset is on this issue? What is the ACTUAL comparative points that connect the religion of creationism with the supposed "religions" of atheism and evolution? I've always thought this stupid attempt to conflate the 3 is weird, because he SEEMS to be doing it to denigrate them... which would denigrate HIS views. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

[@Destorath666]

Its a tu quoque. You are right it should be seen as denigrating towards his own position but taken as a dig of "you aren't better than me." That seems to override the self deprecating nature of the comparision by making christians feel more self righteous about their baseless belief. "We dont have good reasons to believe our ideas but our critics dont either so we are justified."

[@nekotyto718]

did they just say we never seen a star be born??? they do realize it takes millions of years for a star to be born right?

[@danieldomen2057]

"Left to a group, we don't 'Lord of the Flies' for long, we become Sweden"

[@traceyb2664]

The fact that 38% believe that God created man disturbs me

[@justinegts4004]

I don't believe anything based on authority, I believe things based on facts and evidence

[@johnfaber100]

Evolution being a moral issue is not the strangest thing I have heard. Some people think it's an issue of political correctness. You tell me how that's supposed to work.

[@dragongirl7978]

This is so creepy... Like literally it gives me chills, because I used to believe so much of this.

[@VikSun14618]

We americans are taught to believe things based on authority. Our lives are just: Read, regurgitate, repeat. It’s stupid. But because I’ve worked hard to go into higher levels of my classes, I meet teachers who don’t accept this idea, and force that we must prove our reasoning. Unfortunately, very few people reach the same level of classes I’ve had the opportunity to take. I don’t mean to sound pretentious, I’m just saying that few people take Calculus and if they don’t get a good teacher who teaches them to think for themselvesat a younger age, they’ll never see it unless they find it themselves.

[@ctwentysevenj6531]

Ray Comfort the salesman of bananas.

[@kenchristiansen2080]

I disagree that assisted suicide only hurts 1 person. I don't think it is wrong, but it actually hurts all family of the person who commits suicide, plus it hurts the doctor who assists. It is a complicated issue.

[@kaigreen5641]

In the UK we have all the things Ken wants, an established and preferrentially treated Christian state religion, virtually all our primary schools (k-6 for you yanks) are christian religious schools and yet we churn out atheists at a much higher rate than in the USA...

[@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00]

19:15 I think this is the most infuriating part of the video for me, because he's holding up a goddamn piece of paper and having the camera zoom in on it! In this day and age! I mean, Holy. Fucking. Shit. TAKE A LEAP INTO THE 21ST CENTURY AND PUT THAT SHIT UP ON THE SCREEN GODDAMMIT.

[@sagerider2]

Probably costs 5 cents more.

[@lisahenry20]

5:14 "filthy secular England" yes! Is it wrong to see that as a point of pride?

[@lebojay]

I think what “master sales” pen guy did is called extortion. Normally in sales you don’t steal from your customer and then try to sell his own shit back to him. He might have to go back to master sales guy school.

[@hemeoncn]

I love how Ken states "evolution is a fairy tale" yet the bible and what he teaches is real. He uses this tactic quite often as well as his minions.

[@asianhippy]

Obviously, Ken's works supersedes the bible. I wonder how much it will cost me to get him to 'save my soul'?

[@johntaylor1820]

Ham and his type's self-congratulating videos are akin to public masturbation. Rarely will you see folk pleasure themselves so enthusiastically with theur own glory. Sickening yet hysterical at the same time

[@shanewilson7994]

The condom dress actually looked neat.

[@bobbypaluga4346]

Thank you Brody for temporarily blocking out Georgia’s face. Only 6% in Great Britain? Isn’t Britain where Ham should be? How about a EuroArk, EuroCreation Museum.

[@ericsbuds]

i dont understand how they can use the word "secular" like its a bad thing.

[@1991stratplus]

Ham & Co remind me of the three stooges except more ignorant.

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

He get's his tactics from a movie. Great. Hey, how about I prove evolution to you. I know this wild eyed professor who built a time machine out of a Delorean.

[@sagerider2]

Dr Brown? Why not go first class. LOL

[@macey75]

Ham and eggs, ham and eggs........flip and fuck em flip and fuck em , ham and eggs. (At least that is what "I" hear everytime)....what does the song really say???

[@grip4us]

So in the 16th century “the church” (Catholic) didn’t want “common” (non priests) to read the Bible lest they interpret it in their own way, now Ken doesn’t want people learning science because they will then interpret the Bible in their way. Cool 😎

[@fnln3011]

stuck at 666 upvotes, saulogia is danged to heck!

[@BardicLiving]

Oh, AiG/eggs. I get it now.

[@Ernoskij]

38% of the american population believes in creationism ? :O how can it be that high? that's really disturbing

[@lancetschirhart7676]

18:23 BURN!

[@maylaeastwood1942]

I would rather pray to England. lol

[@Thornspyre81]

Does Georgia get her wisdom teeth extracted every week?!?

[@DocBree13]

18:24 captions: “goddam man I live it okay” 😂 still, not as funny as the “E coli to elephants evolution chart! 😂😂

[@Galaxia7]

How dare Ken mention Doctor Who. The Doctor wouldn't approve of anything he's doing.

[@Graeme_Lastname]

He hasn't got 38% . Hes only got the loony fringe of that 38%. He made enemies of most of the normal ones with his opening tirade.

[@metalman4393]

Why is apologetics even a thing?

[@theclinger]

#Arkasino!

[@stephaniecuellar3192]

Arkat house!

[@tonyrundstrom9574]

what's a church of atheism? That's like saying: these are gloves for people without hands.

[@DBCisco]

Ham is a traditional theist: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[@joerodriguez1837]

I'D buy their material if there were no more toilet paper around................

[@PB-hg2ud]

I just love how Ken (mad as a sack of Badgers) Ham uses the word "education" when referring to his BS religion and "brainwash" when referring to Evolution.

[@nova_supreme8390]

Oh the horror! US might end up like EUROPE! For the love of GOD won't someone please think of the children!

[@daverobson3084]

Paulogia...This is your problem here, it is not the individuals consent that matters, it is their god's consent that does. That is their view.

[@Encysted]

This is the video that should be linked in response to conspiracy theorists saying "follow the money"; follow the salesman, you soggy styrofoam cups.

[@LisaForTruth]

Europe isn't pagan; paganism is a group of religions that are mostly polytheistic. Get your words straight

[@KkkittT]

I will give you 20,000$ if you can write your name on this piece of paper but only with this pen! Worth 1$!...

[@biglazyhunt]

His argument would be a lot stronger if the public schools did a half decent job of teaching evolution. Unfortunately they don't.

[@ruthbaker5281]

Hey, we had to fight for a generation to be allowed to have a decent bit of it in our textbooks because Texas dominates the textbook market. Last time I taught it (middle school) or, that is, tried to teach it I had a kid shouting “she’s lying” and “Adam and Eve!” Do you think the principal supported me when I objected? Ha! In my state they tried to duck it by moving human origins into social studies, where it would be OK to say “the scientific point of view is” and then discuss various religious perspectives. At least they got some of it, but it was very outdated because in social studies they aren’t used to the say new discoveries can change things.

[@kenchristiansen2080]

Did he really add doctor assisted suicide in with gay marriage? Talk about opposite things. Spending your life with a person with another person vs ending of pain.

[@stevethul1]

It is so SAD that our country would rather believe in Fairytales of how mankind has come to being than truth and reality. Ham is so concerned about gay people makes me wonder if he may have a "Closet Buddy" that may come out of the dark one day soon.

[@LisaForTruth]

WTF???

[@possumm1702]

The only problem is that you can't polish a turd. What Ken is selling is still a turd.

[@MrRational59]

Listening to Ken Ham talk for more than two minutes is unbearably boring

[@hemeoncn]

Ken is such a poor excuse for a human. He knows no low.

[@kweassa6204]

A time-honored, long tradition of doomsayer preachers and their cons... lol. It's just another variation. If there really is a God, surely, God wouldn't like such "false prophets." LOL