Ken Shamrock on WWE & Pro Wrestling Being More Damaging to His Body Than MMA (Part 16)

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In this clip, Ken Shamrock opened up about sustaining more injuries in the pro-wrestling ring as opposed to the time he spent in MMA. Shamrock said he's incentivized to end an MMA fight as early as possible, whereas the scripted nature of pro-wrestling required him to "give up his body." He noted that pro-wrestlers are so offended by their "sport" being called fake because of the amount of torture they put their bodies through to entertain the audience.

[@betterdays29]

Like I always say about wrestling.... you can't fake falling

[@BROSoftheFU]

Exactly, in mma the idea is to not get hit, in wrestling the idea is to take the hit

[@betterdays29]

@@BROSoftheFU facts!

[@dafilmmaker89]

@Yo Mama’s A Funky Hoe! you see a lot of the Japanese MMA/pro wrestlers can’t walk hardly.

[@ChrisBasdeo]

Exactly you can't fake gravity, those guys and girls put their bodies through alot

[@codyjack8918]

Not to mention they on the road yr round

[@shondarby-mcconnell1502]

Im glad these pro wrestlers are clearing up the "Wrestling is fake" BS

[@louthawriter]

The competition aspect is fake. The winner is predetermined. The pain these guys go through is real though.

[@SomeBodyIUsedToKnow8]

It’s not BS though. The ones that say that are usually parents telling their kids not to get too emotional about the results which are predetermined anyway. They never get specific about which aspects are fake. Cant deny they are athletes and are jumping and landing etc.

[@retrogamerockstar4334]

They have been clearing it up for the last fifty years .

[@shondarby-mcconnell1502]

@@retrogamerockstar4334 U know wat I meant

[@bravocarlos1752]

They are like stuntmen in a movie 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@youngcity4241]

Damn no wonder all the wrestlers back in the day was on painkillers and roids and so many wrestlers die young

[@JJpmfc]

They still are.

[@space_dogg]

@@JJpmfc it's watered down nowadays, they were full blown junkies and real thugs back in the day. now they are like college athletes

[@alanguages]

Don't forget, they also had a lot of concussions, due to the accumulative damage. A lot of their brains are never the same and honestly irreparable damage occurred.

[@richardnascaw1237]

@@alanguages true getting hit with chairs and falling thru tables doesn’t help either

[@e.mohamed2437]

Rip bray wyatt, they still die young cuz of brain & heart issues sustained cuz of the insane falls they take

[@carter3369]

The wrestlers were working 300+ days a year back in the good old days. That’s crazy to think about.

[@sjf1981]

Cocain baby !

[@jonimims823]

Brutal schedule

[@sp4604]

and coke was their choice

[@carter3369]

@Khalim Hannah But the wrestlers suck nowadays compared to the good old days.

[@orlandoyero7151]

@@sjf1981 don't forget about somas and pain pills

[@petrolo72]

💯 respect to Ken for being an open and honest and very real individual in and outside the ring

[@gerardovega4641]

Vlad: interview Kurt angle! Hes got one helluva story! He won a gold medal, with a broken frickin NECK!

[@louio]

It's a true.... it's damn true

[@keithgreer462]

I just don't think people call wrestling fake anymore. People now understand the punishment they take

[@jetla22]

Ask Joe Rogan...during his interview with Undertaker he was low key taking shots at Rogen from his fake comments about it

[@keithgreer462]

@@jetla22 That's hard to believe. I think Joe has to know what pro wrestlers go through. In fact pro wrestlers go through more than any pro athletes. You could be right but maybe it was out of context

[@jetla22]

@@keithgreer462 hard to believe? I'm literally bringing up what he says on camera. He always clowning wrestling so when he interviewed Undertaker he was kissing his ass but Undertaker seemed to see through it.

[@keithgreer462]

@@jetla22 That's just nutz if he did. Maybe Joe don't like that it's scripted

[@SodaPopinksi]

It's still fake the outcomes are pre determined , the punches are not real . What's real is moves that they "allow to happen" as shamrock says.

[@erickh82082]

MMA you can control yourself from falling. Pro wrestling it’s planned and you gotta do it.

[@tonypartridge7085]

Listening to Tito list off those injuries etc sounds like he's listing off a cheat code

[@floydvlacksmith3560]

Sounds like he's a cyborg

[@cjohnson5995]

I would always tell people who say wrestling is fake to use the word scripted instead. The matches are pre determined as the fight itself is a show but the show happens to be a full contact sport where injuries occur daily. Professional wrestlers put their body's on the line for our entertainment every time they have a match so I give respect and I don't use the word fake.

[@soitsanightmare]

Sounds like It's still real to u, dammit.

[@jadoc3767]

​@@soitsanightmareit will always be real to me damnit

[@louio]

​@@jadoc3767😂

[@dgcuzi]

And people still want to call pro wrestling "FAKE" 😂😂

[@travino]

Because it is.

[@danted3408]

The only reason people still use the it's fake excuse is based on the pre determined outcomes and occasionally obvious pulled punches but regardless 0f that pro wrestling destroys you everything ken said is true But no matter what you'll always run into a buzzkill who wants to ruin all the fun

[@snowbear163]

@@travino it's not fake, it's staged.

[@danted3408]

@@snowbear163 brother tell me this if wrestling wasn't pre determined how would the matches end? Decapitate the opponent lmk

[@danted3408]

@@travino why don't u get body slammed see if ur tone is still the same pal

[@billymaltez8030]

That was a dead on assessment of the Jake Paul vs Silva boxing match. Ken needs to be involved in some sort of mma promotion as an analyst or something. This guys breathes mma and has the look and verbal skills to do amazing in some role like that

[@crono6874]

Bro I was thinking the same thing

[@louio]

Always found it weird how UFC doesn't acknowledge him often....

[@TriplomatX]

As careful as Pro Wrestlers are THESE DAYS, Ken Shamrock could continue to wrestle at his age & still make money and bring business to a product.

[@toshoshi1551]

Bro you’d think that but they are not. Wrestlers are more reckless than they’ve ever been. Everyone thinks they gotta do a spot fest. Not only is it dangerous but it’s boring. No psychology cause muh Kayfabe is dead.

[@miamimagicians]

i think the cm punk presser was kayfabe

[@FreddPhucks]

"Wrestling is FAKE! Its no UFC" Ignorance. They need to watch this video. Ken Shamrock has done it all!

[@jordanhtiffirg1990]

Bro no one thinks they don't get hurt when they say its fake they mean it's staged

[@FreddPhucks]

@@jordanhtiffirg1990 This foo. I'm quoting what my cousins say. That's what they tell me.

[@OnGangsterD]

Tito sounded like R2D2 naming all his injuries lol

[@fergutierrez24]

Interview jeff hardy

[@fergutierrez24]

Please

[@jetla22]

And Ron the Truth

[@hydroguy6927]

I wish whatever it is thats lingering between WWE and Shamrock can be squashed and he enters the WWE Hall of Fame.

[@freezhollywood]

Not only the bumps but the travel as well. They’re basically truck drivers too. After the show they gotta drive 4-6 hrs to the next city for the next event. They doin more driving than wrestling. No tour bus.

[@royalty843]

Hell drive with other talent or talent carpool. Cornette told stories

[@extacyl6926]

Of all athletes, pro wrestler Mick Folly has the most injuries. He literally broke every bone in his body.

[@royalty843]

His tooth was in his ear

[@AW-kr9fl]

@@royalty843And he was SMILING

[@tomselleck5560]

Ken “ I was good and could finish a guy in a min or two” Shamrock

[@rickprocure6321]

Dont tell his girlfriend 😀

[@user-by6yc8yl7v]

While fighting another man in an MMA fight you don't have much time to stop and think about anything other than the fight. These WWE wrestlers get pumped up and the whole fuckin crowd is screaming, it's not an option to not jump.

[@detroitandclevelandfan5503]

You can have a UFC match now, and take a long time off. In WWE there is hardly any break.

[@seansimms8503]

Ask Big E if wraslin is fake...that broken neck he suffered looked painful and real to me, I know it's real for him and all the fake wraslers, in the old days sometimes the wraslers didn't know who'd win the match, the refs called the spots or the "senoir" wrasler, Hogan said he had no idea he was really gonna beat Andre until Andre started calling the finish for Hogan, he told Hogan when to slam and when to drop the leg for the pin.

[@booognish]

Hogan, probably the most notoriously prolific liar in the history of professional wrestling.. He especially loves lies involving people that aren’t around anymore to dispute his lies, although they’re still provable lies, as you can see in the hours of videos exposing his lies.

[@seansimms8503]

@@booognish if you rewatch that match, you can kinda see where Andre is calling the spots, I've been watching wrestling since 1978, I know hogan's rep, even a broken clock is correct twice a day bro, even a liar can speak the truth.

[@drjones694]

Great interview Vlad The legend shamrock Love his energy and honesty and how much he shared

[@lrww5673]

Spot on. Great interview! Thanks to the Legend Ken Shamrock and Vlad for gettin him on here.

[@Ant_Mann]

Sure there’s Certain ways they do it to make it hurt “less” but doing it enough it’ll still be a lot of punishment on your body. And cause long lasting effects.

[@tarrenceconyers6548]

Damn they was playing Operation on Tito Ortiz😮

[@mohamedbograin3587]

According to Ken Shemrock MMA is like formula one racing , its dangerous but you have the ability to avoid accidents but there are accidents that can be avoided based on experience like MMA fighters have the ability to finish their opponents WWE is like being in monster trucks or bumping cars , people pay to see collisions and pure car chaos just like being slammed or taking bumps

[@Gunsmoke2220]

Man good times God bless Ken for sacrificing his body like that for the morbid entertainment of others

[@kanegarvey848]

3:55 well they are just different kinds of bumps lmao

[@royalty843]

It's scripted and predetermined, however what's not predetermined is the risk. Many of time story's had to change due to injury in an angle.

[@mikejejenich7116]

Kamala 🇺🇬. Ken shamock. And demolition. Are not. In the wwe hof……. Drew carey is. Let that sink in. 💯

[@kckillakrack9714]

Mma fighters fight what 4 times a year maybe? Wrestlers are performing sometimes twice always traveling never sleeping well still working out as much or more than any fighter. Having to hold back when fighting and allowing people to hit and slam you around. Say what you want about wrestling being scripted but they are still takig hits and falls

[@ankitmayank9478]

Mma fighter fight for 2 time, 3 time max While pro wrestler wrestler for 250+ time a year Get your fact right

[@livefree1030]

Ken literally notarized the Jake Paul vs Anderson Silva fight. Spot on assessment

[@jvnbrk]

I don't mind these exhibition matches between Tubers and actual fighters, what's corny is guys like Jake who boast so much about the wins when they in fact are exhibition matches. IMO Jake's only tough fight he won was Tyron because Tyron is still somewhat young and not too far out of the game. That was a good KO..Askren can't punch and we all knew that..and Silva is at an age where he's just not going to go that hard. He coasted the last couple years of his career..to me when he gets an actual boxer and beats him that's the solidification he needs to shut everyone up.

[@EVSniderWriter]

Ok people don’t say it’s not punishable on the body. Their saying the outcome is fake.

[@lillawrence2886]

I remember when Ken Shamrock wanted to fight Mike Tyson

[@detroitandclevelandfan5503]

It would either been amazing, or it would suck.

[@TreyMessiah95]

I mean Ken shamrock is a LEGIT ufc fighter so he’s not afraid of nobody.

[@dantexshelby]

i have so much respect 4 pro. wrestlers... 😔💔

[@detroitandclevelandfan5503]

Same

[@ITBELIKETHATPODEST2024]

Can we get booker t

[@travino]

At 4:00 I think New Jack was the only pro wrestler who WANTED TO HURT his opponent. He just didn't care.

[@jetla22]

True but at same time he didn't do it to any and everybody. He seemed to only do it when he felt disrespected.

[@royalty843]

He only hurt those he didn't like.

[@NickBarbieriandfriends]

11:28 oh, I don't know. Maybe...BROCK LESNER?!

[@MrMDMPOfficial]

I'm sold on his new fighting company. He set that up perfectly

[@therealAngel1]

We wanna see Jake Paul vs vitor Belford, someone who actually has a boxing background

[@kendrickellis8726]

🗣️Facts 💯

[@Screwednky]

Damn, no New Jack flashback 😂

[@vontaewoods4969]

No telling how many of the older guys have CTE like Chris Benoit. All the chairshots back then in WWE (especially the 90s & 00s)

[@detroitandclevelandfan5503]

Right.

[@eticas88]

So Tito explained how hurt he got in Mma and vlads talking to shamrock about how wrestling is more damaging. What is the point your trying to make? Both sports hurt let’s move on it’s 2022 if you don’t know this by now do your homework cause this video isn’t news.

[@EVSniderWriter]

Ok people don’t say it’s not punishable on the body. Their saying the outcome is fake.

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

9:30 - Ken and I are about the same age. He's completely right about the split second. That same thinking applies to mountain biking, for example. That tiny sliver of slower reflexes is the difference between a great thrill of speed you had at 38, and a horrible crash at 58.

[@herculesking8054]

He had the look, the swagger and the skills. Ken Shamrock was the Mike Tyson of MMA.

[@MiguelMartinez-el1le]

No he wasn't lol

[@jimcornette4420]

Fernando that guy is a super casual

[@MiguelMartinez-el1le]

@@jimcornette4420 🤣

[@AJproductionsful]

Lol could you imagine if the undertaker threw mankind off the cage and then choke slammed him 3 or 4 times at random house shows before the ppv

[@Kleetus_Van_Damm]

Those bumps ain’t nothing fake, even the best can’t save from all the pain and they try to protect you on impact so they don’t kill you but yeah it’s some harsh stuff.

[@jasonluis8895]

Everyone is just going to fight in fighting Irish stance again tho. Trying not to break their hands. Unless there’s submission it’s going to be old timey

[@zoehenfen6154]

Ortiz Bionicle man for real

[@Treudyomal]

That is absolutely true that his body definitely got more damaged in pro wrestling not to mention that he took that brutal chair shot to the head from the rock, like a straight up Savage without blocking his face to avoid severe pain and had both his hands behind his back. That was in the good old Attitude Era days which they did and said whatever they wanted!!

[@666ofdoom]

And people said wrestling is fake lol

[@vladtv]

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[@Spooky89231]

Starting at 3:49...oh they're taking bumps...only difference it's backstage or in the comfort of their tour bus 😉

[@bgwhalley]

Why do so many people get it confused by the "wrestling is fake" comment. What people mean when they say that is: it's not a competitive sport like the UFC where the better wrestler wins. The matches are scripted. Nobody is dumb enough to claim (I hope) that a body slam was fake. They do however fake a lot of the punches to the face. They have to, because otherwise; every wrestler would have black eyes and a broken nose. But I'm sure every now and then, what was supposed to be a fake punch to the face, connects by accident. That's what people mean when they say wrestling is fake. We all know the body takes a beaten with the slams, tumbles, and collisions.

[@gustavocardenas3694]

Owen wanted to do that stunt, but it the safety guys should have checked that rope. And Owen was a kinda big at that point they should have hooked like two ropes onto that guy.

[@josephmiller9424]

The age is true when you get older your brain tells your body to move the body says what and you don't slip the punch like you once did

[@floydvlacksmith3560]

First time I saw shamrock was in kickboxer movie when I was a kid and I was legit scared of him.

[@JeromeBiggSexyGreen]

Vlad has clearly never heard of Brock Lesnar

[@extacyl6926]

Of all martial JUDO is the most damaging to your body

[@ishanpursooth7343]

The thing I am most sick and tired of hearing, "wrestling is fake"

[@UnrealTournamentSERB]

beware of organized gangstalking!

[@GreenNotes007]

It is fake got damn stop the shit yea there real things taking place but y’all know what we mean the best man or women is not winning it’s a play with real athleticism and stuns

[@MHR4Life]

oh there takin bumps alright *sniff* *sniff*

[@spangdeez498]

Living on the road is rough - I made $3.5k/week - and that was a shitload of money (to me) I couldn’t imagine making millions - flying first class or just flying at all vs driving - nice hotels vs a hole in the wall … but then comes the surgeries for these guys , which I did NOT have to do 🙏🏽… but these guys go thru hell, there’s def the pros and cons as mentioned above but still - I’m sure we ALL would rather do what they do vs what I did

[@Myeternalperspective]

What do you do for a living? We’re you a wrestler too?

[@spangdeez498]

@@Myeternalperspective man, I freaking wish ..! But I set telephone poles

[@Myeternalperspective]

@@spangdeez498 Nice, $3.5K/Wk is a lot of money.

[@Davidc9356]

Ken never gets the credit he deserves for being part of the attitude era.

[@Fred-xo3ku]

Ruined his body in pro wrestling

[@TV-cx2zw]

Are you ever gonna get to frank shamrock rivalry?

[@jcl271]

I can't stand Tito Ortiz

[@skootermclovinsrluiz2650]

Who can ? He's only Dad wants to outlive his kids by far....that's sick what parent is looking forward to his golden years burying his kids one by one till there all gone....if his kids are dead who's gonna take care of him when he's old fart can't get round shits himself....

[@jcl271]

@@skootermclovinsrluiz2650 he already is a old fuck who shits himself

[@NoelG314]

um... rockstars dont take bumps? lol 👃i beg to differ

[@jahram9940]

"I could finish a guy in a minute"

[@Timespent100]

Am I the only one who sees Robert deniro 😂

[@Lee-ic2yn]

Adults arguing that shit is real 😂

[@bigddonnell]

Ask Jeff harden next

[@Reasonablemind]

Hardy?

[@pablosorto7012]

Off subject does anyone know what kind of glasses he has? They look fresh af to me 🤓

[@bluestripsnow5974]

If vlad paid attention to his interview, don Frye said the same thing

[@zaezack4242]

Wresting is fake as far as it been scripted why you think wrestlers transfer to acting so smooth but the contact definitely real

[@ettorebugatti9354]

Which wrestlers? Rock, Cena, Batista? They are huge stars and of course they will go and make millions. Just like UFC stars do nowadays. GSP, Conor, Usman, Ngannou...

[@tjdaprodigy1006]

I’m pretty sure Vlad didn’t even know Shamrock was until right before this interview; he saw that Shamrock was available and called him lol . I wish Shamrock would’ve slapped him like Rick Ross people because he’s an annoying instigator

[@Robert-di3kv]

Too many commercials

[@tjdaprodigy1006]

Vlad, it’s this guy named Brock Lesnar who was the best ever at transitioning from wrestling to UFC

[@vegeta201168]

I helped build rings for wwe events and I was surprised that the rings are actual all wood there's no padding or anything

[@1983jcheat]

A very light tarp over the wood.

[@theungreatkahli]

Used to tell my dad this all the time. He could never see the punishment the guys in pro wrestling take, with no off season, was far worse than boxers or other sports.

[@coctimusprime1872]

It wasn't ever about it being fake more the peoples stories it's a male/kid drama show with punishment to the body for your enjoyment just enjoy what all these guys and gals done for their fans and the entertainment

[@leatherface964]

Damm good interview

[@thebookofkobe]

Robert Deniro

[@Coach_LW]

I wrestled in high school an college. I also played football my whole life. I took way more damage wrestling.

[@balance667]

Same, my neck and back will forever be fucked form wrestling

[@ghostccc8089]

Holy shit he’s 59, he’s looking great. Someone was talkin shot somewhere else about how he’s fell off, but wtf the guy is almost SIXTY, and he looks great!!

[@Sum_Jigh]

Owen Hart, dead! Droz, paralyzed by D'Lo Brown botch on running powerbomb, Scott Steiner almost died in Puerto Rico after being kicked in the throat, Rey Mysterio accidentally killed a wrestler in the ring. There are many many more stories. I would NEVER say wrestling is "FAKE"!

[@jimchain7200]

People understand what he is saying about the numbers coming in from Jake Paul but he should understand the anger is more about Paul picking fights

[@movmentztv5189]

wresting is fake lmfao its scripted... do they take damage absolutely but to act like its real like UFC aka MMA is just silly. also, anyone who fights with no hand wraps is just killing there hands`. fighting is already such a small window of opportunity that if you're breaking your hands all the time that window gets much smaller. I see people with no opportunity's coming their way or people on the tail end of the career doing this and that's it. much love Ken you're an original goat that helped build the UFC.

[@nicecutie]

yeah right ken you got your butt kicked in real fighting. in wwe its fake buddy.

[@californiacavemandastardly6538]

Ken had a major influence on me and my high school wrestling career growing up in the early 90's. I did one cage fight and almost broke the dudes neck when I shot in, double legged, lifted him up and dumped him on his head. That was in 99 and after that Kens influence wore off and i got into partying. The end

[@Myeternalperspective]

Was MMA big in your area in ‘99? I remember back then MMA/Cage fighting was on the cusp of superstardom. It was like that for a few years prior as well.

[@gfunk_714]

Ohh at first I thought he meant like “bumps “ 👃🏽 🔑 lol

[@stinger5127]

I believe him. I watched during the Attitude Era and Ken was taking a ton of punishment in 98 in 99 every other week on raw. Dude was getting splashed by Mark Henry and Viscera and getting hit upside the head with chairs by the Rock.

[@KurvaciousKurves]

Why do i have a feeling Vlad is gonna bring up something Michael Jai White said in this interview lol

[@josephmiller9424]

Valor sounds like the coliseum of old where gladiators fought

[@pejroyal9115]

Pretty much getting paid to fall down